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07:24.48 | morsing | 'morning |
07:39.05 | George | HELO |
07:39.29 | mozrat_ | hello George |
07:39.36 | mozrat_ | && morsing |
07:39.46 | George | mozrat_: hey |
07:39.57 | mozrat_ | George: how is KDE camp? |
07:39.57 | George | bit difficult as I'm in Malaga |
07:40.08 | George | a bit shit. my laptop power supply blew up |
07:40.15 | George | so I'm using freenx to my desktop at home |
07:40.42 | mozrat_ | didn't it blow before you went (and set your bed on fire) or is this a second one? |
07:40.48 | George | yes |
07:40.50 | George | second one |
07:40.54 | George | failed after a week |
07:40.59 | George | that's got to be a new record |
07:41.03 | mozrat_ | nice |
07:41.27 | George | not particularly |
07:41.31 | George | I plugged it into the socket |
07:41.33 | George | it went "pop" |
07:41.36 | George | and has never worked since |
07:43.36 | George | and I'm a bit annoyed |
07:43.51 | mozrat_ | I bet - Apple power supplies aren't cheap either |
07:51.21 | George | they're shit |
08:00.33 | mozrat_ | so whats the news from the KDE meet then? |
08:13.12 | morsing | Mmm... |
08:13.22 | morsing | mozrat: Where do you work? |
08:13.30 | mozrat_ | Paddington, W2 |
08:13.40 | mozrat_ | stones throw from the station |
08:14.01 | mozrat_ | http://www.cmtww.com is the company I work for |
08:15.11 | morsing | Are you happy there? |
08:15.51 | mozrat_ | Hmmm - fairly |
08:15.54 | mozrat_ | why do you ask :) |
08:16.04 | morsing | What do you do? |
08:16.30 | morsing | Do you have any p595s? |
08:16.34 | mozrat_ | Mainly IT Project - migrations, bringing little self contained offices onto peoples new networks |
08:16.45 | mozrat_ | mainly Cisco, Lotus Domino, AD |
08:16.47 | mozrat_ | some Linux |
08:16.49 | mozrat_ | no UNix |
08:17.19 | mozrat_ | You looking to move? |
08:18.59 | eye69 | -wii mozrat_ |
08:19.03 | eye69 | Oops. |
08:19.20 | mozrat_ | -wii ? |
08:19.30 | mozrat_ | what does that do to me? :) |
08:19.47 | eye69 | It was supposed to be /wii |
08:20.44 | mozrat_ | hmm - that command isn't in irssi - is it just /whois? |
08:21.43 | stephen | it should be |
08:40.17 | morsing | If I do a whois how can I tell which company registered the domain? |
08:41.10 | wethrin | Which domain? |
08:42.09 | wethrin | Normally, look for line that says "Registrar:" |
08:42.34 | wethrin | Or possibly Registration Service Provider: |
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08:45.06 | morsing | vittrup.net and ef-frederiksbo.dk |
08:45.23 | ebbeyes | hi |
08:45.27 | morsing | hi |
08:46.22 | eye69 | vittrup's with Joker |
08:46.38 | morsing | And the other one? |
08:47.06 | morsing | dk-hostmaster? |
08:47.22 | eye69 | Well, yes. |
08:48.03 | morsing | Of course! |
08:48.21 | eye69 | I don't know how the .dk TLD works, but .se is administrated by nic.se, but it doesn't act as a registrar. |
08:48.44 | morsing | All .dk domains must be registered by dk-hostmaster |
08:48.55 | eye69 | Only renewals are paid through nic.se |
08:49.31 | eye69 | Ok. |
08:50.08 | eye69 | Yuck, b-one. |
08:53.36 | morsing | Do you know them? |
08:53.57 | morsing | He's really tired of them and is now moving to my server |
08:54.54 | eye69 | They advertise heavily in Sweden. Very cheap, but it's a no-frills service. No database access AFAIK, and almost no support. |
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09:12.00 | morsing | Gonzo! |
09:12.13 | Gonzo | moin |
09:15.51 | rhowe | roughly, rather |
09:16.09 | rhowe | "Hi. I popped into your office last week and saw that you have a shit photocopier. Can I sell you a new one?" |
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09:16.40 | wethrin | Hehe |
09:16.45 | wethrin | Is your photocopier shit? |
09:16.55 | rhowe | it only scans in greyscale |
09:16.59 | wethrin | Ahh |
09:17.03 | rhowe | But apart from that, it's OK. It's a Canon iR2200 |
09:17.08 | wethrin | Mm |
09:17.13 | rhowe | Hooked up to the network as a network printer and network scanner |
09:17.25 | rhowe | We have an iR3100C in this office - they got our hand-me-down |
09:17.30 | rhowe | Ours does colour :) |
09:17.33 | wethrin | ooh :-) |
09:17.41 | wethrin | Right. I need some advice quickly |
09:17.47 | rhowe | Although I've yet to see if sane handles such network scanners |
09:17.48 | wethrin | For breakfast, should I have bacon+eggs, or toast? |
09:18.13 | rhowe | what options do you have for toast coatings? |
09:18.37 | wethrin | Er. Marmite and Bierwurst |
09:18.49 | rhowe | Bierwurst? |
09:18.58 | eye69 | Marmite is so bloody disgusting. |
09:19.15 | rhowe | eye69: This is what I'm thinking |
09:19.33 | wethrin | Pfff. |
09:19.42 | wethrin | Right. Okay. |
09:21.46 | rhowe | Korean pop group singing Jingle Bells |
09:21.56 | rhowe | And,.. Jingle Bell Rock |
09:23.31 | eye69 | I'd say the "Korean pop group" part is just wrong. |
09:24.03 | rhowe | http://siksai.co.uk/hidden/MP3/00Korean/As%20One/ |
09:24.32 | rhowe | Korean pop groups are never wrong :P |
09:29.59 | eye69 | Leeds: Thank you. |
09:31.42 | wethrin | FUCKERS |
09:33.00 | Leeds | wethrin: they're not that bad |
09:33.13 | Leeds | ibot change 20000 hkd to gbp |
09:33.15 | wethrin | Leeds: Yes. They stole my milk |
09:33.20 | wethrin | A NEW FUCKING PINT |
09:33.29 | Leeds | do you have your own place? |
09:34.17 | wethrin | No - student digs |
09:34.42 | Leeds | then everything is communal |
09:34.59 | wethrin | Semi |
09:36.34 | Leeds | doesn't matter if it is or it isn't - it's all communal |
09:39.26 | wethrin | Yes, but petty theft still isn't acceptable |
09:56.52 | Leeds | hmm... cousin read my gaim over my shoulder and saw me telling my mum about the Sri Lanka linux week... |
09:58.14 | morsing | How are you wethrin? |
10:05.30 | mozrat_ | wethrin: was it semi-skimmed? |
10:05.33 | mozrat_ | bummer |
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10:13.55 | mozrat_ | George: ! |
10:14.10 | George | grrr |
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10:15.00 | mozrat_ | George: ! |
10:15.19 | George | ok |
10:15.22 | George | back |
10:20.07 | mozrat_ | how is KDEworld? |
10:22.54 | George | fine |
10:22.56 | George | :) |
10:23.15 | mozrat_ | any news to report? |
10:23.51 | George | check my blog? |
10:23.56 | mozrat_ | ahh |
10:27.53 | morsing | Mmm... blog |
10:28.06 | morsing | Leeds: Are you coming to the Italian for lunch? |
10:28.08 | mozrat_ | My blog has died of neglect |
10:31.37 | wethrin | mozrat_: Yew. Semi-skimmed |
10:31.47 | wethrin | blogs suck |
10:31.53 | mozrat_ | wethrin: :( |
10:32.06 | wethrin | Yes |
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10:43.03 | Leeds | hometime |
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11:15.38 | Leeds | interesting letter arrived today from Bulldog... |
11:16.16 | Leeds | basically says "we suck, we know it, and we're sorry" |
11:18.06 | murb | does it then say after that, we are really really sorry. |
11:19.19 | Leeds | only one really |
11:19.31 | Leeds | "I am really sorry about that. You deserve better" |
11:19.44 | Erwin | It's not you, it's me. |
11:20.16 | Leeds | frankly, as long as they have actually cancelled my account, and don't bother chasing me any more for the money I owe them, I'm happy |
11:21.02 | eye69 | Apparently they don't know you, since they say you deserve better. |
11:21.45 | Leeds | honestly, as long as they're happy to give me 6 months free service as an apology - I don't really mind what they say |
11:23.43 | wethrin | heh |
11:26.27 | Leeds | the last payment I made to them was November last year... I cancelled at the end of July this year |
11:27.45 | George | APPLE SUCKS |
11:28.12 | George | APPLE JUST FUCKING SUCKS. SSSUUCCKK.. THEYIHATE THEM. HTHE BASTARDS. I HATE THEM ARRGHHHHHH |
11:29.25 | gregj | yuou suck |
12:08.56 | morsing | ~seen jason_ukfsn |
12:09.03 | ibot | jason_ukfsn <n=jason@spc2-watf3-5-0-cust146.asfd.broadband.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 6d 43m 5s ago, saying: 'hm, I'll be back but I need to use a different computer in another room.'. |
12:10.43 | morsing | Obviously he never made it back :-) |
12:10.49 | morsing | R.I.P. |
12:12.05 | George | moo. |
12:19.01 | morsing | baa |
12:19.13 | George | oink |
12:20.16 | mozrat_ | *miaow* |
12:20.31 | George | BARK |
12:21.08 | morsing | GoppdikGoppedik! |
12:21.44 | George | moobaafooo |
12:23.34 | mozrat_ | George: been taking Brave pills again have we? |
12:23.35 | George | dude |
12:23.47 | George | gregj may be big... er.. VERY big... but he's harmless! :D |
12:23.52 | George | he likes his burger king too |
12:24.18 | mozrat_ | could you outrun him? |
12:24.28 | George | probably |
12:24.33 | George | not |
12:24.35 | mozrat_ | go for it then :) |
12:24.47 | George | mozrat_: he's not in sight ;) |
12:47.35 | George | he's also not as his computer, so I assume he's dead or something |
12:49.02 | mozrat_ | Fair assumption |
12:49.55 | George | :) |
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13:12.10 | mozrat_ | there is a plaque on the edge of the market here somewhere commemerating it |
13:22.49 | mozrat_ | ewh - the "drawn" part of being hung drawn and quartered was rather unpleasant |
13:24.37 | stephen | is that where they cut you open and pull your internals out? |
13:25.14 | stephen | no actually, it's bound to be where they stretch you, surely? |
13:26.54 | mozrat_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drawing_and_quartering |
13:27.08 | mozrat_ | it's where they cut your old chap off and burn him in front of you |
13:29.21 | gregj | George: I am big ? |
13:29.26 | gregj | George: fuck you |
13:29.27 | gregj | I am not bog |
13:29.30 | gregj | big |
13:30.15 | stephen | mozrat_: ouch |
13:30.26 | mozrat_ | stephen: exactly! |
13:30.52 | mozrat_ | I would have screamed something other than "Freedom!" I can tell you |
13:31.14 | stephen | quite |
13:32.19 | mozrat_ | gregj: any photos from the KDE thing yet? |
13:33.13 | gregj | yeah |
13:34.00 | gregj | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Pictures+%40+aKademy+2005 |
13:36.08 | JAV | good afternoon |
13:36.49 | mozrat_ | hey JAV |
13:37.27 | wethrin | greg! |
13:43.38 | morsing | Ouch |
13:43.59 | wethrin | you coming to the pub on Thursday? |
13:46.04 | gregj | wethrin: wet dream |
13:46.18 | wethrin | heh |
13:51.27 | Cope | wethrin! |
13:51.37 | Cope | shit - 3pm already! Yikes. |
13:51.55 | Cope | mozrat_: where are you? |
13:52.39 | mozrat_ | at the moment in St Johns Street opposite Smithfields Meat Market |
13:52.56 | mozrat_ | Farringdon area |
13:55.56 | wethrin | Cope! |
13:56.00 | wethrin | You coming on Thursday? |
13:59.32 | morsing | wethrin: Which pub? Is it your birthday? |
14:01.53 | mozrat_ | and attempts to push his phones handset through his skull |
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14:03.02 | mozrat_ | 'lo SlayerXP |
14:03.05 | SlayerXP | lo |
14:03.13 | wethrin | morsing: Not sure, and no |
14:03.23 | wethrin | morsing: I'm tempted to say the Founders Arms because it's nice |
14:03.33 | morsing | In Aylesbury? |
14:03.48 | wethrin | Although I have to run off for about an hour just after 6, due to server upgrades |
14:03.52 | wethrin | morsing: No. Aylesbury smells |
14:04.24 | morsing | wethrin: Just remembered I'm delivering my x330 to Exonetric Thursday evening. |
14:04.27 | murb | how about Copenhagen or Bratislava? |
14:04.36 | morsing | Can't really make it. |
14:04.39 | morsing | How about this weekend? |
14:04.47 | morsing | In High Wycombe? |
14:05.23 | murb | how about in Banska Bystrica tomorrow? |
14:05.27 | wethrin | morsing: Ahhh - so you're one of the people that Mark said is putting things is |
14:05.29 | wethrin | *in |
14:05.35 | wethrin | murb: No. Come to sensible place |
14:05.45 | wethrin | morsing: So I'll see you at Exonetric |
14:05.52 | murb | wethrin: Bratislava is senisble atleast based on the beeer price. |
14:05.56 | murb | unlike Copenhagen |
14:06.06 | morsing | wethrin: What? What did he say and why will I see you there? |
14:06.20 | morsing | murb doesn't know what he's talking about |
14:09.40 | morsing | wethrin? |
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14:09.48 | morsing | ebbeyes! |
14:12.24 | mozrat_ | oooh, compressed air can to clean my laptop - result!! |
14:15.01 | wethrin | murb: But it's expensive to get to |
14:15.12 | wethrin | morsing: He said he's got some customers installing kit |
14:15.18 | wethrin | And I'll see you there because I'm upgrading memory |
14:15.21 | wethrin | So we can go to the pub afterwards |
14:15.22 | murb | wethrin: actually it is cheap. |
14:15.26 | murb | ryanair now fly to their. |
14:15.27 | wethrin | murb: Not from here |
14:15.34 | morsing | wethrin: Cool :-) |
14:15.35 | wethrin | Yes, plus lots of money to get to STN |
14:15.37 | murb | here is stansted. |
14:15.39 | morsing | Beer afterwards then? |
14:15.47 | murb | you can fly to stansted, it is an airport |
14:15.52 | wethrin | morsing: Yes. |
14:16.00 | wethrin | murb: Costs a bit even with Sleayjet |
14:16.09 | murb | wethrin: go by bike. |
14:20.08 | wethrin | murb: From Newcastle? |
14:21.23 | murb | i though you were in durham? |
14:21.43 | wethrin | Yes, but Newcastle flies to STN |
14:38.10 | wethrin | You coming on Thursday? |
14:38.12 | Cope | yes |
14:38.20 | wethrin | Excellent. What're you doing in the afternoon? |
14:38.23 | Cope | Available from about 1600 |
14:38.27 | Cope | maybe a bit earlier |
14:38.29 | wethrin | Aha |
14:38.35 | wethrin | Excellent. I'm going to be at Kings X at 1600 |
14:38.39 | Cope | great |
14:38.56 | wethrin | And should leave for Telehouse around 1815, for around an hour |
14:38.59 | Cope | I'll endeavour to meet you off your train, but will sms you if that becomes unlikely. |
14:39.28 | wethrin | Eeexcelllent |
14:39.39 | wethrin | Well, I think it's 1555, or 1557, or some silly time like that |
14:39.43 | Cope | when is pub activity scheduled? |
14:39.57 | wethrin | It's not yet. How about we head down to the Founders Arms and get some beers in? |
14:40.08 | Cope | sounds like a fine idea |
14:40.09 | wethrin | Nice and easy from Kings X - just get Thameslink down to Blackfriars |
14:40.18 | wethrin | You do have a travelcard, I presume? |
14:40.18 | Cope | so beers before TH? |
14:40.25 | wethrin | Yarr |
14:40.28 | morsing | wethrin: Eh? Telehouse? That's not the instructions I got |
14:40.38 | wethrin | morsing: No? What's the instructions you got? |
14:40.42 | wethrin | rightho |
14:40.45 | Cope | I will have a car in the afternoon, though. |
14:40.51 | wethrin | bah. cars suck |
14:40.56 | Cope | True |
14:41.01 | wethrin | Specially in London |
14:41.06 | Cope | indeed |
14:41.11 | Cope | I'll consider what to do |
14:41.29 | Cope | but take it as read that I'm aiming to meet you at 1600 at KX |
14:41.51 | wethrin | Rightho. Excellent. Be somewhere visible, though, as KX gets rather crowded |
14:41.53 | morsing | wethrin: Damn. It is actually the directions I have. |
14:41.58 | wethrin | morsing: Ha :-P |
14:42.07 | morsing | How am I going to get a server to London City?!? |
14:42.08 | wethrin | On your head, sir! |
14:42.11 | wethrin | morsing: Under your arm |
14:42.19 | wethrin | Is it a 1U? |
14:42.30 | morsing | wethrin: Yes |
14:42.34 | Cope | easy peasy |
14:42.35 | morsing | Damn! |
14:42.50 | morsing | wethrin: Can we meet at Kings X? |
14:42.57 | wethrin | morsing: If you're there at 4, yes |
14:42.59 | morsing | Or somewhere? |
14:43.11 | wethrin | morsing: Otherwise come along to the Founders Arms |
14:43.12 | morsing | I'll be there at 1815 |
14:43.19 | wethrin | At the FA? |
14:43.25 | Cope | FA++ |
14:43.33 | wethrin | Yes. I hope the weather will be good |
14:43.42 | Cope | on thursday? questionable |
14:43.57 | Cope | glorious today though - been out in the garden, reading. |
14:44.08 | wethrin | Damn them. Why does the weather always have to be bad whenever I want to go to the FA? |
14:44.38 | Leeds | slightly confusingly, one of my local supermarkets here is selling Waitrose own-brand stuff... |
14:45.05 | wethrin | okaaaay |
14:46.41 | morsing | FA? |
14:46.54 | morsing | wethrin: Which station should I go to? |
14:47.43 | wethrin | morsing: Founders Arms |
14:47.56 | morsing | Liverpool Street? |
14:48.16 | wethrin | morsing: for what? If you're not coming to Kings Cross, come to Blackfriars, go across the bridge and then down to the left until you get to the pub (which you've been to before) |
14:48.59 | morsing | Liverpool Street is on Hammersmith & City? |
14:49.05 | morsing | Or Circle line? |
14:49.08 | wethrin | Yes. |
14:49.11 | wethrin | Both |
14:49.21 | wethrin | And Metropolitan |
14:49.25 | wethrin | But why would you go there? |
14:49.37 | morsing | To drop of my server |
14:49.53 | Leeds | oh, and my cousin, who has had rotten luck over the past few years, is doing a tour of the US... and is currently hunkered down somewhere near New Orleans, safe, but without power |
14:50.27 | morsing | Help |
14:50.50 | morsing | wethrin: Is it the docklands one? |
14:51.02 | Cope | I think so |
14:51.33 | wethrin | morsing: East India |
14:51.38 | wethrin | (DLR) |
14:51.58 | morsing | *sigh* |
14:52.30 | Cope | morsing: East India / All Saints |
14:52.33 | George | moomoo |
14:52.39 | morsing | *Gnnnfnfnnnnnn* |
14:53.11 | Cope | morsing: there's also a very convenient bus from canary wharf which drops you almost outside the gates |
14:53.33 | eye69 | I think morsing's head is about to explode. |
14:53.53 | morsing | It is. Have you got any idea what a nightmare this is? |
14:54.10 | Cope | because its an annoyingly meandering walk from East India, over the bridge, past the swans, and around the fences to the security entrance. |
14:54.14 | wethrin | morsing: Come along to the pub first and we'll go together |
14:54.20 | Cope | yes |
14:54.22 | Cope | good idea |
14:54.33 | Cope | we can share carrying too, so no-one gets too tired |
14:54.36 | mozrat_ | and so endeth the conference call after a mighty 1hour and 45 minutes |
14:54.46 | mozrat_ | my eyes are bleeding |
14:54.49 | wethrin | Yeah - I've only got a nice light thing to carry |
14:54.50 | George | bah |
14:54.51 | Cope | mozrat_: where are you? |
14:54.55 | George | Apple want my laptop |
14:54.56 | George | THE BASTARDS |
14:54.58 | stephen | pfft, I've carried 2U servers from TH to East India before, almost killed me |
14:54.59 | wethrin | hah |
14:55.02 | mozrat_ | Farringdon |
14:55.16 | wethrin | mozrat_: are you coming to the pub on Thursday? |
14:55.31 | Cope | yeah, mozrat_, come to the pub, you rascal! |
14:55.56 | mozrat_ | the 8 ball says "You've been paid so why not!" |
14:56.36 | Cope | wicked! |
14:56.45 | Cope | right - off to have fun |
14:56.50 | Cope | see y'all later |
14:57.46 | mozrat_ | me too - byebye |
14:59.55 | wethrin | excellent |
14:59.56 | wethrin | bye |
15:00.59 | morsing | wethrin: I can be at the pub at about 1900h |
15:01.38 | wethrin | morsing: I thought you're going to be at 1845 at Telehouse |
15:01.42 | morsing | I can't believe Mark tricked me! |
15:02.00 | morsing | wethrin: No - I was going to be in Guildford at 1900h |
15:02.09 | morsing | Noone ever mentioned Telehouse |
15:02.29 | morsing | http://www.exonetric.com/contact/index.html |
15:06.58 | wethrin | morsing: Guildford is where Exonetric is based, but their hosting is in Telehouse |
15:07.03 | eye69 | Argh. I'm literally falling asleep in the office. |
15:08.42 | morsing | wethrin: Reason being? |
15:08.49 | morsing | To annoy their customers? |
15:09.00 | morsing | Maybe they should be more clear about that |
15:09.24 | wethrin | morsing: No, because Telehouse offers good hosting |
15:09.39 | wethrin | And Exonetric is a consultancy - the colo stuff only helps pay the bills |
15:10.03 | morsing | So why didn't I go directly to Telehouse? |
15:11.56 | wethrin | Maybe you should - I'd email to ask him |
15:12.06 | wethrin | Anyway - I'm off for coffee - back soon |
15:12.12 | morsing | Mmm... coffee |
15:31.41 | rhowe | Unless the pub is in Sweden |
15:45.02 | wethrin | bad rhowe |
16:04.14 | mozrat_ | *sigh* |
16:04.36 | mozrat_ | why do I have this emotional attachment to evolution - I hate it, I hate it, I hate it |
16:04.48 | mozrat_ | it makes my life harder but I won't throw it away |
16:05.01 | mozrat_ | I don't particulary like Thunderbird - what else is there |
16:05.15 | wethrin | heh |
16:05.17 | wethrin | mutt! |
16:05.30 | mozrat_ | I used mutt for a while with fetchmail and a local MTA |
16:05.41 | wethrin | You can get it to talk imap and pop |
16:05.45 | mozrat_ | but it's a bit clunky to have to do that to read your mail |
16:05.56 | mozrat_ | and it's uberslow in IMAP mode isn't it? |
16:06.01 | wethrin | No idea. I use POP |
16:06.16 | mozrat_ | Hmm - POP isn't really a good option for me |
16:06.28 | wethrin | POP without deleting messages |
16:07.08 | mozrat_ | you're using POP within mutt? |
16:07.45 | wethrin | Yup |
16:07.51 | wethrin | But I delete messages |
16:08.01 | wethrin | The documentation isn't too hateful |
16:08.11 | wethrin | It hates you |
16:08.39 | wethrin | Mmmm. Cute girls. |
16:08.41 | mozrat_ | curvy! |
16:08.45 | wethrin | hurrah! |
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16:08.58 | George | what's /etc/userdb? |
16:09.00 | wethrin | Mmmm. PIE |
16:09.10 | wethrin | Dunno. man 5 userdb |
16:09.52 | George | useless bastard |
16:10.13 | mozrat_ | why is mutt dependant on exim? |
16:10.17 | mozrat_ | stupid apt |
16:10.18 | wethrin | IS it? |
16:10.23 | wethrin | It shouldn't be |
16:10.27 | mozrat_ | only in Debian/Ubuntu |
16:10.27 | wethrin | But Debian's broken, so.... |
16:10.31 | wethrin | heh |
16:10.37 | wethrin | Maybe Ubuntu is broken |
16:10.44 | mozrat_ | I'm using Ubuntu |
16:10.49 | pie | Hello all! |
16:10.51 | wethrin | Ahh |
16:10.55 | mozrat_ | but I think the dependancies would be the same in Debian |
16:10.59 | wethrin | pie: Come to the pub on thursday! |
16:11.00 | pie | I have an easy Debian (well, apt) question! |
16:11.03 | mozrat_ | and I'm rather glad SlayerXP isn't her |
16:11.06 | mozrat_ | here* |
16:11.06 | wethrin | heh |
16:11.11 | pie | wethrin, is this pub in Manchester? |
16:11.17 | wethrin | pie: No, in a sensible City |
16:11.27 | mozrat_ | pie - is your question "Why is mutt dependant on exim"? |
16:11.30 | wethrin | My filesewer has exim installed because Debian decided It Was So |
16:11.43 | pie | mozrat, that was my next question. |
16:11.59 | mozrat_ | pie - if it is then I'm sorry but i do not know |
16:12.11 | pie | How do I peg the version of debian that apt tries to use (to 3.1?) |
16:12.24 | pie | wethrin, Manchester is a silly place! |
16:12.27 | wethrin | It is |
16:12.41 | wethrin | Er - do appropriate fiddlings in /etc/apt/sources.list |
16:13.24 | pie | wethrin, There is a config option to set the version ('stable') or whatnot that it will use. |
16:13.51 | wethrin | Probably |
16:13.58 | wethrin | I don't upgrade |
16:14.03 | pie | but I have forgotten |
16:14.18 | wethrin | ah |
16:14.48 | stephen | pie: after the URL, put the word stable |
16:15.29 | stephen | pie: or run apt-setup again, which will walk you through the process |
16:18.13 | pie | stephen, the stable version has changed no? |
16:18.37 | stephen | yer, a month or two ago |
16:19.04 | pie | Anyone here have a bytemark Machine and sucessfully updated to the latest version of stable? |
16:19.29 | mozrat_ | me sir |
16:19.40 | pie | How did it go? Any problems? |
16:19.54 | mozrat_ | not that I remember |
16:20.01 | pie | How did you go about it? |
16:20.07 | mozrat_ | I talked to them first and they said they had had a few people do it |
16:20.13 | mozrat_ | they even offered to do it for me! |
16:20.20 | pie | ! |
16:20.23 | mozrat_ | i know |
16:20.48 | mozrat_ | I just changed sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade |
16:20.50 | mozrat_ | no funnies |
16:21.05 | mozrat_ | it wasn't being used for much at the time but it all went OK |
16:21.18 | pie | What did you change them to? Gat copies of the new files available? |
16:21.55 | mozrat_ | my current sources.list is |
16:21.56 | mozrat_ | sm@mozrat01:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
16:21.56 | mozrat_ | deb http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
16:21.56 | mozrat_ | deb http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free |
16:21.59 | mozrat_ | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free |
16:22.06 | pie | thanks |
16:22.15 | mozrat_ | sm@mozrat01:~$ cat /etc/debian_version |
16:22.15 | mozrat_ | 3.1 |
16:22.55 | pie | Here goes :) |
16:23.01 | wethrin | good luck! |
16:23.22 | pie | Thanks! |
16:23.32 | Leeds | evening pie |
16:23.36 | pie | Evening :) |
16:23.58 | pie | Pretty speedy, it has finished getting all the packages :) |
16:24.06 | pie | Fetched 149MB in 1m12s (2054kB/s) |
16:37.31 | wethrin | That's fairly nippy |
16:43.28 | mozrat_ | Hmmmm, metal |
16:44.27 | mozrat_ | right - hometime |
16:44.31 | mozrat_ | see you all later |
16:44.34 | wethrin | cya |
16:49.04 | George | hrmm |
16:49.57 | pie | later |
16:50.12 | wethrin | cya pie |
16:50.26 | pie | um, later mozrat I meant :) |
16:50.46 | wethrin | oh right. You're a bit late :) |
16:51.07 | pie | Yeah, watching the upgrade |
16:51.35 | pie | What, you are an orange avoider? |
16:52.56 | wethrin | No. I'm a customer |
16:53.03 | wethrin | They're supposed to have sent me SIM updates, but haven't |
16:55.27 | George | anyone know much about apache2? |
16:55.36 | George | I've got an htpasswd/htaccess pair |
16:55.41 | George | in a directory |
16:55.45 | wethrin | But it doesn't work? |
16:55.45 | George | apache prompts me for the pass |
16:55.49 | George | I type in the pass |
16:55.50 | wethrin | aha |
16:55.53 | George | and it keeps telling me it's wrong |
16:55.59 | George | I've set the password using htpasswd2 |
16:56.03 | wethrin | Have you got the correct AuthType? |
16:56.32 | George | dunno |
16:56.53 | George | it's AuthType Basic |
16:57.38 | wethrin | So you'd need a CRYPT of the password, rather than MD5 or SHA1 |
16:58.33 | George | oh |
16:58.37 | George | me shuts up, it's not working |
16:58.41 | George | s/not// |
16:59.03 | wethrin | what was wrong? |
17:00.49 | George | it was a generic htaccess file from postfixadmin |
17:00.57 | George | the path to the corresponding htpasswd was broken |
17:03.52 | wethrin | Ahh |
17:03.59 | wethrin | :-) |
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17:48.24 | Leeds | morning zachary and good night :-) |
17:55.18 | zachary | moin Leeds & g'night.(talk about your quickies!) |
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18:12.33 | Jango | <wethrin> They're supposed to have sent me SIM updates, but haven't |
18:12.35 | Jango | me too |
18:12.38 | wethrin | Heh |
18:13.53 | mozrat_ | pie did you update work OK? |
18:14.01 | mozrat_ | I might wipe my bytemark server and start again tonight |
18:14.15 | mozrat_ | there's a control panel for such a thing |
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18:18.07 | mozrat_ | hey Catalyst |
18:18.14 | Catalyst | heya |
18:18.20 | mozrat_ | howsyou? |
18:20.05 | Catalyst | pretty good :) |
18:20.21 | Catalyst | made some new friends from working at uni over the summer, which be nice |
18:20.25 | Catalyst | how goes round here? |
18:22.14 | mozrat_ | good hear |
18:22.17 | mozrat_ | umm |
18:22.18 | mozrat_ | here |
18:23.48 | Catalyst | \o/ |
18:23.50 | Catalyst | anywhere |
18:23.53 | Catalyst | how are you? :P |
18:24.56 | mozrat_ | good! |
18:25.08 | mozrat_ | how long do you have left at uni? |
18:30.37 | Catalyst | well, 2 and a half more weeks working this summer, then 3 more years of actual degree stuff |
18:30.54 | Catalyst | computer science at soton :) |
18:31.08 | mozrat_ | Cool |
18:31.53 | wethrin | Ha. Computer Science |
18:32.59 | murb | with home economics and sewing join honours? |
18:33.19 | mozrat_ | Grumpy old me you two are |
18:33.24 | mozrat_ | s/me/men |
18:33.34 | wethrin | murb: Hmm. I think you know full well |
18:33.35 | mozrat_ | why does nothing I write on IRC make sense until I correct it? |
18:33.45 | wethrin | It's mozratism |
18:33.54 | mozrat_ | hee-hee |
18:35.54 | Catalyst | :D |
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18:36.10 | mozrat_ | grrrrr - people who moan that the asterisk server i put in for them doesn't work and then I see 2 phones with the same extension configured |
18:36.21 | mozrat_ | ibot lart these kind of people |
18:36.33 | murb | mozrat_: clearly you faild to sufficently train them. |
18:38.06 | mozrat_ | murb - yes |
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18:41.19 | mozrat_ | I actually wrote some Python-LDAP scripts so they could just enter info in Active Directory and I'd take care of the rest |
18:41.27 | mozrat_ | maybe I need a few more idiot traps in there |
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19:34.39 | wethrin | heh |
19:34.56 | new2unix | Hi wethrin. |
19:35.28 | wethrin | hi new2 |
19:40.35 | mozrat_ | George: ! |
19:40.50 | George | mozrat_! |
19:41.47 | wethrin | ha ha |
19:42.46 | George | what? |
19:42.53 | George | ¿what? |
19:42.53 | George | ÑP |
19:43.03 | wethrin | gah |
19:43.33 | George | ¿what? |
19:43.42 | wethrin | Stop with your UTF8 shit |
19:44.24 | George | dude, I'm on an esespañol keyboard! |
19:44.29 | George | ermm |
19:44.35 | George | that'd be español |
19:45.05 | wethrin | ITYM español |
19:45.27 | George | moocowman |
19:45.43 | wethrin | No a-twiddle, plus/minus |
19:45.48 | wethrin | Hateful UTF8 |
19:52.13 | mozrat_ | George: what is the plan for tonight? |
19:53.33 | George | food. |
19:53.35 | George | FOOD. |
19:53.37 | George | FOOOOOOD |
19:54.05 | mozrat_ | being social? |
19:54.14 | George | no |
19:54.14 | mozrat_ | SOCIAL? |
19:54.15 | George | just eating |
19:54.19 | mozrat_ | SOOOOCIAL? |
19:54.25 | mozrat_ | bah |
19:54.39 | mozrat_ | for a clever young chap you have much to learn |
19:55.30 | George | no, no I don't |
19:56.29 | mozrat_ | I thought rsync had an option not to replicate deletions on the source to the dest |
19:56.38 | mozrat_ | I can't find it in the man page |
19:59.58 | George | MOO |
20:00.05 | George | <PROTECTED> |
20:03.39 | mozrat_ | dimesions of what? |
20:08.15 | wethrin | mozrat_: rsync by default will not delete |
20:08.17 | George | my X |
20:09.37 | mozrat_ | wethrin: ahh, I was looking for the invisible option |
20:09.43 | mozrat_ | what a dofus |
20:09.52 | mozrat_ | have fun at the pub |
20:23.07 | JAV | hello |
20:24.23 | JAV | George: I'm also on an español keyboard! |
20:26.53 | George | yeah, well, I'm now on a spanish keyboard with an en_GB layout |
20:39.39 | George | http://static.kdenews.org/jr/akademy-2005-group-photo.jpg |
20:39.40 | George | spot the G |
20:41.35 | JAV | hey! look! |
20:41.47 | JAV | wait, no idea :D |
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20:44.51 | George | I'm hidden pretty well |
20:45.18 | JAV | let's play "who is who" :) |
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21:03.20 | new2unix | Is George and JAV G spotting? |
21:06.29 | JAV | no! whatever that means :) |
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21:08.58 | Blapto | Hi, can anybody read this? |
21:11.00 | JAV | Blapto: yes |
21:11.14 | new2unix | depends: is it written in invisible ink? |
21:12.04 | Blapto | Hooray, on irc via wap from portugal |
21:12.38 | z00dax | via Wap ? |
21:12.39 | new2unix | excellent. what device? |
21:13.54 | Blapto | Nokia 6230 via wap.steike.com |
21:16.31 | Blapto | It also has a nice e.mail client built in. Now i just need to find that msn over irc thingum |
21:18.19 | z00dax | http://jmirc.sourceforge.net/ <-- I've used this over a gprs link. works quite well |
21:19.19 | Blapto | I'll try that now |
21:20.30 | z00dax | http://www.agilemobile.com/agile_messenger.html <-- works for yahoo, msn, icq, aol |
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21:26.46 | ufo` | gevening |
21:26.52 | ufo` | mozrat_: are you alive? |
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21:27.54 | Blapto | Ah, this is nice |
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21:29.07 | ufo` | Did anyone know what's happening with my friend mozrat ? |
21:29.13 | Blapto | Bloody hell, tabs as well. |
21:29.49 | ufo` | I'm trying to catch him during last month .... and nothing |
21:29.53 | ufo` | holidays? |
21:29.58 | Blapto | Ufo, in what way? |
21:30.07 | ufo` | on irc, msn .... |
21:30.26 | Blapto | ibot seen mozrat |
21:30.32 | ibot | mozrat <i=mozrat@silenceisdefeat.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 1d 12h 37m 35s ago, saying: 'old irssi file:)'. |
21:30.40 | ufo` | :) |
21:30.55 | ufo` | I'll try tomorrow, I'm going off to bed now, almost midnight |
21:30.56 | ufo` | bye |
21:31.08 | Blapto | Bye |
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21:42.15 | bsdqed_w | Me too from K750i. |
21:44.19 | bsdqed_w | Signing off. g'night guys |
21:45.09 | bsdqed_w | /Quit this is way cool |
21:45.55 | bsdqed_w | /quit thats better |
22:05.12 | mozrat_ | ibot mozrat is also ALIVE!!! |
22:05.14 | ibot | mozrat_: okay |
22:05.25 | mozrat_ | ibot mozrat |
22:05.27 | ibot | it has been said that mozrat is a geek, or pissed, or not morsing ALIVE!!! |
22:05.29 | George | new2unix: where G is George |
22:06.06 | mozrat_ | George: are you alive? |
22:06.36 | George | yes, yes I am |
22:06.40 | George | we're pondering ordering pizza |
22:06.52 | George | and I have a funky free opensuse cap |
22:06.54 | George | woo for me |
22:07.13 | mozrat_ | nicee |
22:08.33 | mozrat_ | this shell account is so damn laggy |
22:09.57 | George | TIME FOR FOOOD |
22:10.57 | mozrat_ | hhahah http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4196682.stm |
22:11.13 | mozrat_ | self important nobody told to leave UK |
22:11.38 | mozrat_ | if you know you are breaking the terms of your visa by packing in your job some would say going on reality TV is not a good idea |
22:14.31 | Cope | mozrat_: For the 3rd time of asking.... |
22:14.33 | Cope | where are you? |
22:15.50 | mozrat_ | Mr Cope |
22:15.59 | mozrat_ | the first time you askedI was in Farringdon |
22:16.11 | mozrat_ | as I was the second time you asked about 7 minutes later |
22:16.17 | mozrat_ | now I am in Elm Park |
22:16.59 | mozrat_ | Tell me the reason for this persistant and baffling questioning |
22:19.27 | mozrat_ | it really is most peculiar |
22:25.51 | mozrat_ | ARGHH - I've broken rhyrmbox |
22:26.02 | mozrat_ | rhythmbox |
22:26.06 | mozrat_ | it segfaults everytime |
22:26.29 | Cope | mozrat_: you said something about William Wallace |
22:26.38 | mozrat_ | yes |
22:27.08 | mozrat_ | he was executed in Smithfields market |
22:27.54 | Cope | interesting |
22:28.17 | mozrat_ | neither did I until I walked through there and read the history boards |
22:28.30 | mozrat_ | it is in an interesting place |
22:28.45 | mozrat_ | their lunchtime is about 8 am |
22:29.01 | mozrat_ | and you often find the pubs packed at that time |
22:29.13 | mozrat_ | if you ever fancy a pint for breakfast its the place to go |
22:36.45 | Cope | mozrat_: is there anywhere cheap/free to park a car at your office? |
22:36.49 | mozrat_ | and of course great beef dinners in the local cafe |
22:37.05 | mozrat_ | Cope for a once off I can get you a pass |
22:37.21 | mozrat_ | or do you mean on a regular basis |
22:37.25 | Cope | no only once |
22:37.31 | mozrat_ | what time of day? |
22:37.35 | Cope | 3.30ish? |
22:37.45 | mozrat_ | should be OK |
22:39.04 | mozrat_ | no probs - catch me that morning somehow |
22:39.17 | mozrat_ | or you can call me when you are coming over |
22:39.21 | Cope | mk |
22:43.18 | mozrat_ | nn cope |
22:54.50 | Cope | Having concatenated himself there once a day for several months.... |
22:55.00 | mozrat_ | I should be so lucky |
22:55.58 | mozrat_ | mrs Mozrat having grumpily declared herself ready for bed now proclaims herself not quite so ready |
22:56.04 | mozrat_ | Hmph |
22:56.13 | Cope | heh |
22:56.37 | Cope | http://www.livejournal.com/users/xiao_yang/16732.html |
22:57.44 | mozrat_ | Ooh, very nice |
22:58.04 | Cope | £2500.00 a pair |
22:58.27 | mozrat_ | wowsers |
22:58.38 | mozrat_ | you're listening to them? |
22:58.46 | Cope | yes |
22:58.49 | Cope | in my room now |
22:58.52 | mozrat_ | you own them? |
22:58.57 | Cope | Not yet.... |
22:59.01 | mozrat_ | heh |
22:59.18 | Cope | I've abused my position within the hifi community |
22:59.27 | mozrat_ | I hope I'm not storing your car after a bank robbery on Thursday |
22:59.30 | mozrat_ | ah |
22:59.36 | Cope | given that I used to sell dozens of them, and am well known in the industry... |
22:59.49 | Cope | occasionally I am allowed to 'borrow' stuff |
23:00.18 | Cope | they do sound very good :-) |
23:00.20 | mozrat_ | well in fact I did know you used to sell hi-fi kit |
23:00.27 | mozrat_ | what are you listening *to*? |
23:01.18 | Cope | umm, right now, computer fans, as I just took off a record |
23:01.51 | mozrat_ | Hmmmmm, stupid ipodder software insists on only installing into /opt |
23:01.56 | mozrat_ | thats a bit silly |
23:02.06 | mozrat_ | it's hardcoded in a couple of places |
23:03.54 | Cope | This is redberry joy town! |
23:05.30 | mozrat_ | Hmm - the chances of me getting to see Maiden on Friday in my allocated budget seems remote |
23:05.57 | Cope | oh? |
23:06.17 | mozrat_ | It's their last gig in their tour |
23:06.23 | mozrat_ | in Hammersmith |
23:06.41 | mozrat_ | apparently :( |
23:06.45 | Cope | bah |
23:07.09 | mozrat_ | more than I'm going to pay - I was looking at about £45max - the eBay tickets are all around there now |
23:07.27 | mozrat_ | and i think they'll shoot up tomorrow |
23:07.40 | Cope | blah |
23:07.46 | Cope | gloomy news |
23:08.00 | mozrat_ | oh well - next year |
23:09.17 | mozrat_ | OK - I shall take the bull by the horns so to speak and go to be |
23:09.21 | mozrat_ | bed* |
23:09.41 | mozrat_ | She's not showing signs of movement |
23:09.45 | Cope | lol |
23:09.49 | Cope | see you soon |
23:09.50 | Cope | nn |
23:09.57 | mozrat_ | nn |
23:16.59 | wethrin | Foo |
23:18.09 | Cope | d |
23:18.25 | wethrin | Yum |
23:18.29 | wethrin | I had beer |
23:19.01 | Cope | mmm |
23:19.04 | Cope | I had wine |
23:19.08 | wethrin | Was it nice? |
23:19.15 | Cope | yes |
23:19.19 | Cope | jolly yummy |
23:20.24 | wethrin | good good |
23:24.51 | new2unix | only |
23:25.06 | new2unix | ok. maybe a little more than just a sslip |
23:25.18 | new2unix | *sip |
23:26.02 | JAV | #gllug-booze |
23:26.44 | new2unix | Wethrin: thanks for earlier. problem fixed. was an oversight. dodgy Server 2003 in vmware. |
23:27.00 | wethrin | ahha. Fair enough |
23:27.04 | wethrin | JAV: That goes without saying |
23:27.09 | wethrin | A slip of Brandy? |
23:27.47 | new2unix | Remy here. was a gift for a "job well done". Dont ask. |
23:28.00 | wethrin | Remy? That was your brandy? |
23:28.11 | new2unix | remy Martin |
23:29.09 | Cope | VSOP |
23:29.12 | wethrin | means nothing |
23:29.18 | wethrin | ~vsop |
23:30.10 | new2unix | wethrin is a liquor noob. |
23:30.11 | Cope | ibot vsop is Very Special Old Pale - usually used of Brandy. |
23:30.13 | ibot | Cope: okay |
23:30.59 | wethrin | ahh |
23:31.18 | wethrin | Meh. I likes the whiskies and the ports. Never tried brandies. Only had one madeira |
23:31.34 | wethrin | So if anyone feels like donating bottles to the booze-wethrin-up foundation.... |
23:32.59 | wethrin | go on, Cope. You have a highly paid job :-P |
23:35.52 | new2unix | G'night all. |
23:36.12 | Leeds | g'night new2unix |
23:58.12 | Leeds | why over me and not at me? |
23:59.21 | wethrin | Why not? |