00:01.07 | Leeds | because all you've managed to do is get the wall behind me wet |
00:02.26 | wethrin | Muahaha |
00:05.07 | Leeds | what did that wall ever do to you, huh? |
00:06.19 | wethrin | It stopped me! |
00:06.47 | Leeds | it's thousands of miles away from you! (good throw with the water, BTW) |
00:07.07 | wethrin | Thanks! |
00:14.46 | JAV | bedtime! Good bye all |
00:15.30 | z00dax | me too, there is a bed here, might as well use it |
00:17.10 | wethrin | nn |
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00:56.46 | Leeds | worktime! |
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05:36.19 | new2unix | moin all |
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06:34.15 | Leeds | morning new2unix |
06:41.14 | Leeds | ibot change 3399 hkd to gbp |
07:15.31 | Leeds | morning eye69 |
07:16.20 | eye69 | Morning |
07:16.33 | rhowe | Leeds: Oh, there's a Gnumeric developer in HK, btw |
07:16.37 | rhowe | Leeds: He does the win32 port |
07:16.53 | rhowe | Leeds: irc.gnome.org/#gnumeric - 'ivan' |
07:19.01 | Leeds | win-what? |
07:20.26 | rhowe | heh |
07:20.26 | rhowe | 08:19 < ivan_lab> rhowe: recently I love BoA's "Girls on Top" |
07:20.36 | rhowe | What can I say? The man has taste :P |
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07:54.19 | Leeds | oh lord |
07:54.31 | Leeds | sorry, had to go off and examine some bras |
07:57.25 | Leeds | hmm... my moinmoin here seems to be doing something I've not noticed it doing before - but it could be the sessionsaver firefox plugin... it's taking me back to the last page I was on, rather than the front page, when I just go to /wiki |
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07:58.56 | morsing | 'morning |
07:59.01 | Leeds | shalom morsing, stephen |
07:59.28 | morsing | I've connected minicom to a switch but it can only recieve, not send?!? |
07:59.33 | morsing | How's that possible? |
08:00.01 | morsing | When I turn on the switch, stuff appears and it says Hit enter twice, but it doesn't react to anything |
08:00.28 | mozrat | morsing: 9600 baud? |
08:00.39 | morsing | 9600n8 |
08:00.40 | mozrat | 8 bits, flow control = none |
08:00.57 | mozrat | strange |
08:02.17 | Leeds | does your minicom think it's offline? |
08:02.36 | morsing | Leeds: It does say offline yes. How do I change that? |
08:02.59 | Leeds | uh... |
08:03.14 | Leeds | can't remember :-) |
08:03.24 | mozrat | Ctrl+A |
08:03.35 | mozrat | and then whatever character gives you help! |
08:03.41 | Leeds | z |
08:07.12 | ufo_ | hey mozrat :) |
08:07.30 | Leeds | data entry - was really easy: just sat there and hit the N button repeatedly |
08:07.39 | mozrat | UFO!! |
08:07.41 | mozrat | hello |
08:07.52 | mozrat | you were looking for me last night and I was here but not paying attention |
08:08.15 | mozrat | ibot timesheets suck ass |
08:11.56 | Leeds | ibot timesheet |
08:12.08 | Leeds | ibot damn you |
08:12.09 | ibot | What's your beef?! |
08:18.00 | morsing | There's no option to go "online" |
08:19.24 | morsing | mozrat? |
08:19.31 | mozrat | yep |
08:19.35 | morsing | Where? |
08:19.48 | mozrat | one sec |
08:21.11 | mozrat | Well - I'm not sure it does say "Online" when it talks to devices - but my laptop has no serial port and my USB-to-serial grommit is at home |
08:21.17 | mozrat | so I can't really help that much |
08:22.08 | mozrat | are you using VT102 for terminal settings? |
08:22.43 | morsing | Status line says: 9600 8N1 NOR VT102 Offline |
08:22.48 | morsing | NOR? |
08:22.59 | morsing | Where do I get tip for Linux |
08:23.00 | morsing | ? |
08:23.53 | Leeds | uh... I've seen it... |
08:24.29 | Leeds | hmm... are you sure 8n1 is correct? I thought some serial devices (cisco type things) used strange settings |
08:24.36 | mozrat | Cisco uses 8n1 |
08:25.12 | ufo_ | mozrat: priv |
08:25.35 | morsing | It's an HP |
08:25.36 | Leeds | so sue me |
08:26.09 | mozrat | HP Procurve? I connected minicom to this last week - I only had to change the 9600 and 8N1 |
08:26.19 | mozrat | are you starting minicom with -s? |
08:26.24 | morsing | Yup - Procurve 2626 |
08:26.32 | morsing | Why doesn't this work. |
08:26.53 | mozrat | ufo_: I'm /msg'ing you :) |
08:27.14 | ufo_ | ufo_ ? |
08:27.16 | ufo_ | or ufo |
08:27.23 | mozrat | hmm |
08:27.30 | mozrat | ufo :) |
08:27.38 | ufo_ | so try again |
08:27.42 | mozrat | are you /msg'ing mozrat or mozrat- ? |
08:27.45 | ufo_ | mozrat |
08:27.52 | mozrat | maybe we should have just one nick each :) |
08:28.13 | ufo_ | I have one! |
08:28.14 | ufo_ | :P |
08:30.29 | rhowe | morsing: Do you have both hardware and software flow control switched off? |
08:30.34 | rhowe | morsing: ^a o |
08:30.40 | morsing | rhowe: HW on/SW off |
08:30.47 | rhowe | morsing: Try both off |
08:30.52 | rhowe | morsing: Might need to restart minicom |
08:31.46 | morsing | Still not working. How can this be sdo difficult |
08:31.59 | rhowe | morsing: Shouldn't matter if it says offline.. |
08:32.04 | rhowe | morsing: Tried ^q? |
08:32.24 | rhowe | morsing: Different cable etc? |
08:32.46 | rhowe | morsing: Maybe you need a special HP branded cable which has the special HP wiring for extra performance! |
08:33.03 | morsing | I used the cable from the box |
08:33.24 | rhowe | And you expected it to work? :P |
08:33.30 | morsing | Yes! |
08:33.47 | rhowe | try another cable :P |
08:34.22 | rhowe | dammit, I wanna go shopping :) |
08:35.45 | morsing | Haven't got one |
08:35.55 | morsing | rhowe: It works one way though |
08:50.44 | rhowe | morsing: That only means the rx wire's working though |
08:51.02 | rhowe | morsing: Got an RS232 analyser? |
08:54.27 | Leeds | morsing: is it a regular 9/25 pin cable? |
08:55.17 | Leeds | if so, I'd say try another one... if not, curse the people who don't use standard cables |
08:57.28 | mozrat | morsing: I used a standard serial cable to connect before |
09:08.19 | Leeds | I noticed a few days ago that my Sun Safari account lists an expiry date of tomorrow (well, 09/01) - it's the first time I've noticed it, and could mean one of a two things: it really is going to expire tomorrow (maybe a year since I got it?), which would be bloody annoying, or it gets automatically renewed each month and I've never noticed before |
09:08.29 | z00dax | $TZ Greetings |
09:19.06 | Leeds | and I'm reading something very depressing - a CSS book which is littered with "IE6 for Windows, which is the most current at time of writing, doesn't support this bit of CSS" |
09:22.17 | morsing | Leeds: It's a 9/9 pin |
09:24.25 | rhowe | Leeds: "Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide"? |
09:25.50 | wethrin | morning |
09:25.59 | Leeds | rhowe: indeed |
09:26.12 | Leeds | morsing: then yeah, try another cable |
09:26.25 | rhowe | Leeds: Not a very useful guide to writing CSS for real-world use, I found |
09:26.36 | rhowe | Leeds: But a good reference, and good if you have time to do CSS properly |
09:26.49 | Leeds | rhowe: I also have the cookbook - hence my getting worried about possibly losing my Sun Safari account tomorrow :-) |
09:26.52 | rhowe | Leeds: (i.e. write your stylesheet to the spec and then take time to hack it into working with the browsers) |
09:27.41 | rhowe | Leeds: I bought the dead-tree edition |
09:27.52 | Leeds | it's very easy to get into a habit of thinking "oh yes, I have every single O'Reilly book to hand" |
09:28.14 | Leeds | + Prentice Hall, Addison Wesley, etc. (spell?) |
09:28.18 | rhowe | Leeds: It's sat between Mc Graw Hill's "Java 2: The Complete Reference, 3rd edition" and ORA's "Learning XML" :) |
09:29.04 | Leeds | it's sat between "Absolute Beginner's Guide to Databases" and the CSS cookbook on my Safari bookshelf - but then it is sorted alphabetically |
09:29.17 | rhowe | heh |
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09:29.57 | rhowe | I should set up a Safari account here at work, I guess |
09:30.00 | rhowe | But first I want dualhead |
09:30.02 | Leeds | hometime |
09:30.10 | rhowe | Or a company laptop :) |
09:34.56 | rhowe | *yoink* |
09:35.00 | wethrin | heh |
09:59.04 | morsing | wethrin? |
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10:02.13 | morsing | Leeds! |
10:06.55 | Leeds | mozrat! |
10:07.04 | mozrat | Leeds! |
10:07.22 | Leeds | morsing! |
10:10.22 | wethrin | morsing: You've been unsubscribed from Gllug due to excessive bounces |
10:12.25 | murb | is morsing a very bouncy person? |
10:13.23 | wethrin | yes |
10:36.41 | Cope | he's a tigger |
10:37.14 | Leeds | 'tis a wonderful thing |
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10:39.42 | Blapto | Get me some |
10:39.44 | rhowe | want to avoid the lunchtime rush anyhow |
10:39.49 | rhowe | no, I want my camera :P |
10:41.29 | Blapto | Which camera? |
10:43.42 | Blapto | Can somebody do me a favour and find the channel and network for cpanel please? I can't do it from my phone |
10:44.19 | mozrat | quakenet |
10:44.21 | mozrat | #cpanel |
10:44.28 | mozrat | ahhh |
10:44.29 | mozrat | sorry |
10:44.31 | mozrat | dalnet |
10:45.16 | mozrat | well - both according to http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?num=0&query=cpanel |
10:45.33 | mozrat | but the topic on dalnets looks more promising |
10:45.50 | Blapto | Thanks. Someone (ul?) was in here looking for you yesterday |
10:57.14 | mozrat | ufo aka Marcin |
10:57.24 | mozrat | I was here but being idle |
11:47.40 | mozrat | God, Iraq is a mess... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4199618.stm |
11:59.15 | morsing | Ahh... Flowcontrol changed to software and it works! |
12:03.30 | morsing | Leeds? mozrat? rhowe? |
12:03.36 | mozrat | ah cool |
12:03.46 | morsing | :-) |
12:03.55 | mozrat | were you running minicom with -s though? |
12:04.07 | morsing | Either |
12:04.28 | mozrat | maybe you changed a default somewhere |
12:04.43 | morsing | Ey-up |
12:05.16 | morsing | Mmm... beer |
12:52.55 | morsing | beer |
13:09.12 | JAV | good afternoon |
13:15.33 | morsing | JAV! |
13:19.54 | Leeds | morsing: good news |
13:24.11 | wethrin | Ah. a morsing |
13:24.21 | wethrin | morsing: Have you sorted out what you're doing with colocation yet? |
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13:35.33 | Leeds | evening SlayerXP |
13:35.39 | SlayerXP | lo leeds |
13:45.30 | morsing | wethrin: What do you mean? |
13:46.04 | wethrin | morsing: Going to Telehouse, or to Guildford? |
13:46.21 | morsing | I thought I couldn't go to Guildford? |
13:46.39 | morsing | I'm planning on doing the painful trip to Telehouse with you |
13:54.44 | Cope | wethrin: I need your advice, quickly. |
13:55.02 | wethrin | Waggledance |
13:55.03 | Cope | wethrin: Tea, Coffee, Red Wine, Grapefruit Juice or Water? |
13:55.18 | wethrin | Well, I'm having water, but tea sounds like an excellent idea too |
13:55.28 | wethrin | assuming you have no Waggledance |
13:55.41 | wethrin | morsing: Okay - so you're coming along to the Founders Arms first, then |
13:55.49 | wethrin | A cup of tea contains mostly water |
13:56.01 | Cope | wethrin: yes, I was suggesting two drinks. |
13:56.47 | wethrin | ahha |
13:56.49 | wethrin | Tea and rum |
13:57.12 | Cope | mmm, rum |
13:57.17 | murb | a cup of tea. |
13:57.21 | murb | how about a pot of tea? |
14:11.21 | Cope | eeexcellent idea |
14:11.57 | wethrin | Cope: Kings X still on in 25 hours/ |
14:11.57 | wethrin | ? |
14:12.14 | Cope | wethrin: affirmative |
14:14.07 | Cope | hello morsing |
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14:14.16 | morsing | wethrin: Yes |
14:14.23 | morsing | Hello Cope & resuDaed |
14:14.46 | morsing | Bye! |
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14:16.06 | resuDaed | afternoon all |
14:16.49 | resuDaed | I am having a wierd problem.... |
14:17.48 | resuDaed | Have just installed ubuntu (because they gave me a free cd :-), and everything was very fine and nice except... |
14:17.55 | Leeds | resuDaed: did you see the link I left for you the other day? |
14:18.17 | resuDaed | Leeds: yes, thanks, looks like (exactly) what I was looking for |
14:18.34 | Leeds | good :-) |
14:19.22 | Leeds | so what's your problem now? |
14:19.30 | resuDaed | when I click on something (app under gnome), I am locked to that object (be it a list or whatever), and no matter what I click on, it affects only that object |
14:19.45 | resuDaed | (really wierd one to explain, hence my bad terminaology) |
14:19.50 | SlayerXP | try using a properly supported distro instead. |
14:19.54 | Cope | resuDaed: I see the problem |
14:19.55 | resuDaed | ((and speeling:-)) |
14:19.58 | SlayerXP | debian, for example. :) |
14:20.05 | wethrin | morsing: Excellent. What time will you be there? |
14:20.29 | morsing | wethrin: 6:40pm? |
14:20.30 | Leeds | SlayerXP: down boy! |
14:20.40 | resuDaed | Cope: you do? |
14:20.43 | morsing | wethrin: Do you want ot meet at the pub? |
14:20.53 | wethrin | morsing: 6.40 I'm going to be near Telehouse |
14:20.56 | Cope | resuDaed: yes, it begins with '..just installed ubuntu' |
14:20.59 | morsing | It would be quicker to meet at some station |
14:21.11 | Cope | resuDaed: I was going to do debian trolling, but since SlayerXP is here, I'll hand over to the master. |
14:21.12 | wethrin | Can you get to the pub for 6? |
14:21.19 | morsing | wethrin: No |
14:21.24 | wethrin | Slackware! |
14:21.29 | wethrin | morsing: Pah. Skip out from work early |
14:21.32 | morsing | I'll be at Watford Junction at 6 |
14:21.39 | Cope | SlayerXP: didn't see you there - all yours :-) |
14:21.43 | resuDaed | SlayerXP: I would (did and do), but ubuntu looks nice, is debian based and means I can leave the install and it installs |
14:22.03 | Leeds | morsing: say hi to what used to be Sun Watford for me |
14:22.04 | wethrin | morsing: So what time will you be at Euston? |
14:22.07 | SlayerXP | resuDaed: ubuntu is based on debian in the same way that ozone is based on oxygen |
14:22.20 | morsing | Leeds: Will do |
14:22.23 | morsing | wethrin: 6:15 |
14:22.53 | morsing | wethrin: Which station do I change to DLR at? |
14:23.01 | wethrin | just checking |
14:23.03 | resuDaed | SlayerXP: regardless of distro, this is more likley to be a config issue somewhere -- I am just clueless as to where |
14:23.04 | Leeds | woo, paycheque cleared :-) I suddenly have 5 figures of HKD |
14:23.04 | Cope | wethrin: you can go direct from bank |
14:24.06 | wethrin | Leeds: yay |
14:24.23 | Leeds | wethrin: feels like a lot more money than it is... but it goes further here anyway |
14:24.34 | wethrin | Cope: Ah - Journey Planner told me I needed to change somewhere |
14:24.39 | Cope | wethrin: evil |
14:24.48 | SlayerXP | a couple of elk nearly got combine harvested |
14:25.04 | Cope | wethrin: its probably right; it may be from the other place that its direct. |
14:25.39 | resuDaed | anyway, need to get to bank, will see you all later |
14:26.20 | Cope | wethrin: yes; from bank change at shadwell/limehouse/westferry |
14:26.28 | wethrin | Cope: Yeah |
14:26.36 | Cope | wethrin: but from tower gateway its direct |
14:26.45 | George | moo |
14:26.46 | George | MOO |
14:26.50 | wethrin | morsing: From Euston, Northern line to.......somewhere. Acrobat has decided to shut down |
14:27.24 | wethrin | Hm. From Euston it's quite inconvenient |
14:27.27 | morsing | wethrin: I can be at bank at 6:30 |
14:27.59 | wethrin | morsing: Okay - problem is that there's no phone reception so it's hard to coordinate |
14:28.11 | resuDaed | meet @ shadwell then :-) |
14:28.20 | wethrin | *shudder* |
14:31.30 | wethrin | Well, it's 10 minutes from Euston to Bank |
14:31.31 | Leeds | got phone reception on the tube around these parts... |
14:31.37 | wethrin | Leeds: Pah :-P |
14:33.02 | wethrin | morsing: Phone me when you're at Euston |
14:33.04 | Leeds | hmm... apparently West Yorkshire has the best GPs in the country |
14:33.27 | wethrin | And I'll meet you at the DLR platform at Bank |
14:34.54 | JAV | ok, I give up. I can't find it. The DV-cam has firewire and usb cables, but no place to plug them. |
14:35.06 | JAV | I should have a look at the manual |
14:35.26 | Leeds | JAV: normally under a little flap somewhere |
14:35.54 | JAV | I see several, but no one match |
14:36.24 | Leeds | try pushing the cable in really hard :-) |
14:37.08 | JAV | I'm thinking about duct taping it :P |
14:37.13 | Leeds | heh |
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14:43.46 | Leeds | evening z00dax |
14:43.48 | Leeds | zimm: |
14:43.55 | zimm | Leeds, |
14:44.03 | murb | #gllug |
14:44.32 | z00dax | :) |
14:44.49 | Leeds | well, good evening everyone :-) |
14:44.55 | JAV | ok, it should have a cradle |
14:45.03 | murb | good morning? Leeds |
14:45.05 | morsing | wethrin: Ok |
14:45.23 | rhowe | woohoo |
14:45.49 | rhowe | Leeds: Got it for GBP365 including a 1GB CF card (Fujifilm 40x) |
14:45.56 | rhowe | Leeds: The shop was offerring it for 299 |
14:46.59 | Leeds | rhowe: good work... but... they charged you GBP66 for the CF? |
14:47.55 | Erwin | fyi, it might just be cheaper on pixmania.com, if you want mail orde |
14:48.07 | rhowe | Leeds: They were selling it for GBP85 :P |
14:48.32 | wethrin | morsing: excellent |
14:48.35 | JAV | I bought my ixus 400 in pixmania |
14:48.37 | Leeds | rhowe: so, we need more pictures of your various cute women then |
14:49.05 | rhowe | Leeds: Yeah, it was a bit over the odds, but it should be a decent card |
14:49.15 | rhowe | Leeds: heh, give it time |
14:49.26 | rhowe | Erwin: I wanted it today :P |
14:49.36 | rhowe | Erwin: Today's payday and tomorrow I'm off to Sweden |
14:50.17 | Leeds | yay for payday |
14:50.25 | rhowe | Yeah, yay indeed |
14:50.34 | Leeds | speaking of which, where's gregj... |
14:51.00 | Leeds | rhowe: as I mentioned above, I suddenly have a 5-figure bank balance... unfortunately, that's HKD :-( |
14:51.12 | rhowe | Leeds: heh |
14:51.24 | wethrin | rhowe: rm IYF |
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15:05.46 | morsing | MIRROR WRITE CONSISTENCY: on/ACTIVE |
15:09.49 | Cope | helpful |
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15:25.31 | wethrin | morsing: AIX? |
15:30.20 | morsing | Mmm... AIX |
15:31.15 | Leeds | Bah... AIX |
15:31.46 | morsing | Bah... Leeds! |
15:32.41 | wethrin | morsing: Is there any Real Hardware(TM) around that'll support SATA disks? |
15:35.02 | Leeds | thunder! |
15:35.45 | wethrin | Not here |
15:36.54 | morsing | wethrin: ?!? |
15:37.05 | wethrin | morsing: Real Hardware - not PC shit |
15:45.24 | rhowe | wethrin: Plenty of Real Hardware seems to have PCI slots |
15:48.12 | Erwin | According to this week's TimeOut, Osama Bin Laden is an Arsenal fan and has seen them play live here 4 times in 94 |
15:56.04 | morsing | wethrin: Rumours has it IBM is going to switch to SATA but I don't believe it |
16:01.59 | wethrin | rhowe: Yes, but that doesn't mean that SATA controllers will be supported by a real OS |
16:11.43 | murb | morsing: may i point and laugh at a box of disks that calls itself a shark? |
16:12.27 | morsing | murb: Why? |
16:12.58 | murb | because of the free replacement, and the free replacement of the free replacement and the ensuing compenstation. |
16:13.13 | murb | and that was the only time i've been near one. |
16:13.14 | morsing | Eh? What does this have to do with anything> |
16:13.16 | morsing | ? |
16:13.24 | murb | morsing: they were not terribly reliablable. |
16:13.30 | murb | ibm |
16:13.41 | morsing | But they weren't SATA which the discussion were about? |
16:13.58 | murb | morsing: i'm wonding how ibm could make them worse, or possibly better! |
16:14.07 | morsing | I've worked with 7 ESSs (sharks) and never had more than a few probelms. |
16:14.22 | morsing | murb: Are you talking disks or the actual ESS? |
16:14.31 | morsing | Disks will always fail |
16:14.37 | murb | morsing: the actual box. |
16:14.47 | morsing | murb: they're pretty stable and reliable |
16:14.58 | morsing | but they're being phased out |
16:15.03 | murb | but then they were nt/'doze/solaris people and they didn't like ibm one bit. |
16:15.19 | murb | ibm only got that project because it was put out to tender forcably. |
16:16.00 | morsing | murb has lost morsing in this "discussion" (once again) |
16:16.11 | murb | murb has lost murb as well. |
16:16.15 | murb | i need some more cake. |
16:16.28 | morsing | Mmm... cakew3 |
16:16.31 | morsing | cake |
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20:02.25 | JAV | hi! |
20:02.59 | Cope | mem! |
20:15.18 | wethrin | Something! |
20:15.57 | z00dax | hey Cope |
20:16.23 | Cope | hello z00dax |
20:16.59 | z00dax | the Alpha did 87k emails in the last 24hrs ( ending at 20:30 ) |
20:17.19 | wethrin | heh |
20:17.30 | Cope | ooh Erwin is here too |
20:17.31 | Cope | ;-) |
20:17.43 | wethrin | yarr |
20:49.39 | Erwin | Hey, just 3 weeks left until Talk like a Pirate Day |
20:50.49 | wethrin | arrrrr |
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22:00.37 | wethrin | Mmm. Rachmaninov++ |
22:01.37 | murb | ogg123 -@ ~/playlist/Rachmaninov would be a bad idea at this time. |
22:01.48 | wethrin | Would it? |
22:04.45 | murb | it would wake people up. |
22:06.58 | wethrin | Then play it EVEN LOUDER |
22:10.53 | JAV | they'll enjoy it, for sure :D |
22:11.18 | wethrin | Yup. Otherwise they're HEATHENS with no taste |
22:14.10 | wethrin | :-) |
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22:31.08 | Cope | z00dax: running linux? |
22:31.16 | z00dax | Cope: yea, CentOS |
22:32.08 | wethrin | But BSD rocks |
22:34.22 | Cope | z00dax: centos is released for alpha now - good work. |
22:34.43 | Cope | freebsd/alpha rocks significantly |
22:35.22 | z00dax | Cope: its kinda beta at the moment, but by the time 4U2 hits the mirrors, we should have ppc64 and Alpha 'release grade' |
22:35.35 | Cope | groovy |
22:44.44 | Cope | z00dax: so what's the machine doing? |
22:44.46 | Cope | for whom? |
22:45.00 | z00dax | thats my spamtrap :) |
22:45.20 | Cope | you personally get 87k emails a day? |
22:45.44 | z00dax | a bunch of domains I've had for a while ( 1993 is the oldest ) |
22:45.53 | Cope | ok |
22:46.38 | z00dax | personal email is in the range of 2.5 - 4k a day |
22:46.49 | z00dax | spams to personal email addy, that is |
22:46.56 | Cope | right |
22:51.49 | rhowe | woo |
22:52.01 | rhowe | http://siksai.co.uk/pics/newcamera/ (-small images still being generated) |
22:53.14 | JAV | feet? :D |
22:54.19 | rhowe | JAV: I was feeling a little artistic :P |
22:54.26 | rhowe | JAV: I call it "Office meeting" |
22:55.24 | JAV | ehe |
22:55.34 | rhowe | notice the tube train lights on the 2nd Green Park picture :) |
22:55.44 | rhowe | That was a long exposure.. I was trying to catch the train coming in, but hit the shutter too soon |
22:55.51 | JAV | I like the elevator girl |
22:56.51 | rhowe | Yeah, that was just a quick "Hm, this lift looks neat. Lemme take a picture before the doors open" |
22:57.00 | rhowe | Only just did it in time, too. That was in Harrods |
22:57.14 | z00dax | I believe there are rules that specifically forbid photography beyond the ticket barriers at any London underground station... |
22:57.22 | z00dax | that.. and i cant spell :) |
22:57.31 | rhowe | z00dax: Certainly flash photography, I'd expect |
22:58.52 | JAV | great camera |
22:59.12 | rhowe | Yeah, I've only had it about 10 hours and I'm starting to love it |
22:59.22 | rhowe | I didn't charge the battery though, hence the small number of shots |
22:59.33 | rhowe | I saw a Banksy, but didn't have any power to shoot it |
22:59.41 | rhowe | (it was on Brick Lane) |
23:04.28 | z00dax | be nice to have exif support in the browser |
23:05.06 | rhowe | z00dax: Gotta be a firefox plugin, surely? |
23:05.23 | rhowe | z00dax: Had I added them to http://siksai.co.uk/gallery you wouldn't have needed browser exif support :) |
23:05.47 | z00dax | just wanted to check what Camera you are using :) |
23:05.56 | rhowe | Canon Powershot S70 :) |
23:07.18 | z00dax | cool :) |
23:07.57 | rhowe | Yeah, falling in love :) |
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23:24.04 | Cope | wethrin: think I've cracked it |
23:24.21 | wethrin | Woohoo! |
23:24.22 | Cope | but I don't think its very pretty |
23:24.31 | wethrin | Of course not. What you're doing isn't particularly pretty |
23:34.03 | wethrin | Well, it may work nicely in a functional language, but I doubt you're writing it in Haskell, are you? |
23:36.53 | Cope | no |
23:36.59 | wethrin | mm |
23:37.21 | Cope | the test code looks like this: |
23:37.25 | Cope | #!/usr/bin/python |
23:37.25 | Cope | testPhrase = "Gentlemen, I smell a rat! I see it floating in the air!" |
23:37.25 | Cope | def printFrequencies(text): |
23:37.25 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.25 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.27 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.30 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.32 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.35 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.37 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.40 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.43 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.45 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.48 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
23:37.51 | Cope | printFrequencies(testPhrase) |
23:37.53 | Cope | ooh - missing comments |
23:38.06 | wethrin | right |
23:38.28 | Leeds | morning all |
23:38.31 | rhowe | Cope: frequency[a]++? |
23:38.41 | rhowe | Cope: I guess that should work (if Python has a ++ operator) |
23:38.54 | Leeds | it doesn't |
23:39.12 | Erwin | frequency[a] = frequency.get(a,0) + 1 |
23:39.16 | Leeds | it does have += though |
23:40.56 | Cope | hello leeds! |
23:41.51 | rhowe | frequency[a] = (a in frequency ? frequency[a] + 1 : 1) |
23:41.52 | rhowe | :P |
23:47.57 | wethrin | Right. I go to sleep now |
23:48.09 | wethrin | Cope: See you at 4 somewhere at Kings X |
23:48.27 | wethrin | Cope: On the platform? |
23:48.54 | Cope | yeah, something like that |
23:49.01 | Cope | in that pub if you like? |
23:49.19 | wethrin | That could work, but was thinking of just going straight to the Founders Arms |
23:49.40 | Cope | yes - just meant as somewhere you will be |
23:50.15 | wethrin | ahh. Okay - if I don't see you on the platform, then I'll go to the bar |
23:50.25 | wethrin | I shall be carrying a laptop bag with me |
23:51.13 | Cope | ok |
23:52.14 | wethrin | I'll try and watch out for you, but there's normally lots of people coming off the train, so it's possible I may miss you |
23:52.18 | Cope | wethrin: oh and for what its worth, you can do functional programming in python if you want |
23:52.21 | Cope | wethrin: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-prog.html |
23:52.31 | wethrin | yes - I've heard it can do that |
23:52.55 | rhowe | Surely you can do functional programming in any turing-complete language? |
23:53.07 | Cope | that: frequencyList = [(value, key) for key, value in frequency.items()] is pretty functional - don't list comprehensions come from haskell? or is it lisp? |
23:53.10 | rhowe | (and possibly in non-turing-complete ones too...?) |
23:53.12 | wethrin | doesn't have to be turing-complete |
23:53.18 | wethrin | Cope: Either. Probably LISP originally |
23:53.56 | wethrin | rhowe: If the language supports functional style, sure |
23:54.10 | wethrin | Try writing C functionally, and you'd end up having to implement a whole new language |
23:54.22 | rhowe | wethrin: Which in theory means you could write a functional language using just C preprocessor stuff... :P |
23:54.38 | wethrin | Not sure if that necessarily holds true |
23:55.40 | rhowe | Could always ask Nix, I guess :) |
23:55.41 | wethrin | Right. I sleep. Night |
23:55.50 | wethrin | or Richard Jones |
23:56.01 | wethrin | Have a good time in Sweden, you evil pub-missing person |
23:58.12 | Cope | yes - evil! |
23:58.19 | wethrin | night night! |