00:00.55 | Cope | Leeds: are you there? |
00:03.18 | Leeds | Cope: yes |
00:13.12 | Leeds | Cope: how may I assist you? |
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00:44.07 | Cope | Leeds: oh just wondered how you'd have done what I was doing above. |
00:45.16 | Cope | anyway - I need to sleep |
00:52.38 | Leeds | g'night |
01:08.37 | Leeds | worktime |
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02:07.39 | JAV | code quality is aproaching 0 seriously. Bedtime! |
04:02.44 | Leeds | uh-oh... mailman day has started |
07:35.00 | mozrat | Good Morning fellows |
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07:37.34 | mozrat | hello ebbeyes |
07:44.44 | ebbeyes | hello |
07:48.34 | Leeds | hello all |
07:50.01 | Leeds | looks like I'll be having a busy week next week... |
07:50.23 | Leeds | RMS speaking in HK on Monday, then off to SL for FOSSL on Tuesday :-) |
07:53.27 | mozrat | nice |
07:54.05 | Leeds | lots of geeking out with foreigners (or more correctly, as a foreigner) |
07:56.23 | mozrat | what is RMS speaking about on Monday? Anything specific? |
07:57.15 | Leeds | yup |
07:57.29 | Leeds | "Copyright vs Community in the Ageof Computer Networks" |
07:57.56 | Leeds | the abstract is: |
07:58.01 | Leeds | Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. |
07:58.01 | Leeds | The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright--to promote progress, for the benefit of the public--then we must make changes in the other direction. |
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08:14.36 | Leeds | afternoon SlayerXP |
08:14.44 | SlayerXP | lo leeds |
08:40.50 | Leeds | bah, users |
08:41.58 | mozrat | who needs em? |
08:45.28 | Leeds | so let's say I have a situation where I want bind9 to return a specific value for a specific A record lookup, but relay any other request on... any advice? |
08:46.00 | SlayerXP | learn about split horizon DNS |
08:46.31 | Leeds | I have no idea what that means |
08:46.58 | Leeds | please enlighten me, oh debian-loving guru |
08:47.47 | Leeds | although I could just use something simple like dnsmasq rather than bind |
08:48.14 | SlayerXP | SHDNS returns different responses based on where the query is coming from |
08:48.32 | Leeds | nothing to do with that |
08:48.45 | Leeds | all the requests will be coming from the LAN |
08:48.51 | SlayerXP | so a lookup for foo.mycompany.com would return 192.168.0.1 if requested from the LAN, and the real IP if requested from the rest of the world |
08:49.32 | Leeds | the problem is that the DNS for this place is managed by the ISP... and everyone has the addresses of the ISP's server set on their machine |
08:49.34 | mozrat | Leeds, you want a server that is authoritative for a zone to forward requests on to another DNS server for queries against that zone |
08:50.04 | Leeds | mozrat: what I want is for www.metexhk.com to resolve to an interal address, without having to have the complete zone in place |
08:50.36 | mozrat | Leeds, I'd say you need to bring a copy of the zone in internally |
08:50.53 | Leeds | the zone lives on the ISP's server, unfortunately |
08:51.13 | mozrat | just create a local internal zone and add in the MX records and other internet facing records |
08:51.16 | mozrat | ftp, ns etc |
08:51.26 | Leeds | I don't know what's in the zone |
08:51.32 | mozrat | there can't be that much |
08:53.46 | Leeds | guessing is not acceptable |
08:53.54 | mozrat | ask the ISP for a copy of the zone |
08:54.47 | murb | Leeds: so move the domain away from Incompitence Inc. |
08:54.56 | Leeds | nah, I'm trying to look supersmart :-) |
08:57.19 | mozrat | shame "type=ixfr; metexhk.com" in nslookup doesn't work against that ISP |
08:57.58 | Leeds | yeah |
08:59.06 | murb | hmm one of their nameservers isn't even reachable from here. |
08:59.17 | Erwin | dig -taxfr metexhk.com @ns8.imsbiz.com WFM |
08:59.26 | SlayerXP | security, probably |
08:59.28 | Leeds | murb: you are a gwailo and therefore have no right to dns access |
08:59.48 | Leeds | gweilo |
09:00.11 | murb | Leeds: http://www.yuri.org.uk/~murble/complete-zone.txt |
09:00.56 | Leeds | leeds is not a registered protocol. |
09:01.00 | SlayerXP | whoever built that zone should be shot ASAP |
09:01.08 | Leeds | yeah, I got it - still not going to use it |
09:01.17 | murb | SlayerXP: why? |
09:01.23 | Leeds | I don't *want* to reproduce the zone, I just want to intercept one particular request |
09:01.37 | murb | only one minor mistake. |
09:02.29 | Leeds | dnsmasq seems to be doing the job |
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09:08.59 | eye69 | Morning. |
09:10.46 | murb | Leeds: slowly taking over the company? |
09:12.23 | Leeds | murb: I surely am... in a completely official way |
09:12.35 | Leeds | it's not a joke - I really am |
09:13.04 | murb | competent people are a danger to the incompetent. |
09:13.16 | Leeds | yes, they are |
09:13.37 | Leeds | my title seems to have been upgraded to Senior Manager |
09:19.52 | mozrat | Leeds, with an appropiate upgrade to salary! |
09:22.20 | murb | Leeds: who do you manage? |
09:26.49 | Leeds | murb: at the moment, "IT Services", but with responsibility over IT staff in all locations |
09:26.56 | Leeds | mozrat: my salary is quite sufficient :-) |
09:50.59 | Leeds | hometime |
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10:07.59 | Gareth_a | Hello |
10:09.14 | new2unix | hi all |
10:17.18 | mozrat | hello |
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10:18.29 | George | any chemists here? |
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10:19.30 | wethrin | not officially |
10:19.35 | Leeds | evening kbsingh |
10:19.40 | kbsingh | hi Leeds |
10:20.05 | George | wethrin: do you know the english names of chemistry apparatus? |
10:20.07 | kbsingh | == z00dax ( on a dialup link ) |
10:20.30 | Leeds | ah :-) |
10:20.38 | wethrin | which apparatus? |
10:20.48 | George | http://www.hamm-chemie.de/images/j11/titrat1.jpg |
10:20.54 | wethrin | titration? |
10:20.55 | George | the red rubber thing attached to the end of the pipette |
10:22.06 | Leeds | tit rat? |
10:22.28 | Leeds | I would say there's a bulb and a valve there |
10:23.44 | wethrin | gnuh. I can't remember. Key something-or-other |
10:24.40 | George | wethrin: it's a pipette filler, apparently |
10:24.46 | George | a google image search confirms it |
10:24.51 | wethrin | Aha. Surely burette filler? |
10:24.55 | George | no |
10:24.59 | George | they're used on pipettes... |
10:25.03 | wethrin | mm |
11:06.59 | mozrat | wethrin: sorry I can't join you guys tonight |
11:07.06 | wethrin | mozrat: Pah |
11:07.13 | mozrat | wethrin: do you have Copes mobile number? |
11:07.34 | mozrat | He wanted to park here this afternoon, I need to get him a pass |
11:07.48 | wethrin | mozrat: Yes |
11:08.23 | mozrat | thanks wethrin |
11:08.25 | wethrin | np |
11:08.29 | wethrin | got it, then? |
11:08.36 | mozrat | yes ta |
11:08.51 | wethrin | rightho |
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12:58.40 | morsing | 'morning |
12:59.03 | Leeds | morning |
12:59.04 | JAV | 'afternoon :) |
13:00.13 | George | hi. |
13:01.52 | ebbeyes | hello :) |
13:02.13 | George | moo |
13:02.45 | morsing | baa |
13:02.50 | morsing | Mmm... Exonetric |
13:03.15 | morsing | http://www.pigbag.com/members.php |
13:07.04 | Leeds | yes minister++ |
13:07.09 | George | yes |
13:07.11 | George | yes very good |
13:14.42 | Erwin | they're all dead by now, aren't they |
13:15.15 | Leeds | not all |
13:15.29 | Leeds | AFAIK |
13:17.21 | Leeds | Bernard is still alive |
13:22.02 | murb | who? |
13:24.09 | Leeds | Derek Fowlds aka Bernard Woolley |
13:25.05 | JAV | http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000000056818/ |
13:28.26 | George | Leeds: heh |
13:28.40 | JAV | It doesn't look enough usable yet |
14:01.32 | Leeds | gregj: ah-ha! |
14:01.45 | gregj | :> |
14:20.28 | morsing | wethrin? |
14:42.36 | Leeds | well, I now appear to have "install Linux servers and write software in python, perl, java(!), cgi and xml" written into my employment contract :-) |
14:49.00 | JAV | so you can refuse to install windows :D |
14:49.46 | Leeds | got it on a headless box for testing, using vnc |
14:50.24 | JAV | my last one only was "engineer", and previous was "teacher". :D |
14:51.15 | JAV | I have vmware installed, but it expired some time ago |
14:52.32 | Leeds | my title is to be "Senior Manager - IT Services" |
15:13.01 | gregj | George: turn around and catch |
15:13.17 | George | gregj: dude. |
15:13.19 | George | gregj: you have issues |
15:13.29 | Leeds | fucking psycho Yanks |
15:13.36 | George | gregj: fix nxc for me |
15:13.43 | Leeds | shooting at a fucking evacuation helicopter? |
15:14.23 | JAV | stupidity++ |
15:14.50 | George | gregjness++ |
15:16.05 | gregj | George: what the heck is nxc |
15:16.12 | Leeds | nx client? |
15:16.13 | George | gregj: nx client libraries |
15:16.14 | gregj | <PROTECTED> |
15:16.27 | George | gregj: stop reminding me of Leeds and njaard |
15:16.30 | George | and LWCE2004 |
15:20.20 | Leeds | George: I was a little busy in Boston, and a little Asian during the SF one |
15:20.36 | Leeds | or did you mean the crappy London show? |
15:22.20 | George | no, I need LWCE SF |
15:23.12 | Leeds | yeah, it was a bit far away - and while my current employer *will* pay for me to go to a conference in SL, they're not too interested in SF |
15:31.50 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
15:31.52 | ibot | wethrin: GOOD MORNING!!! |
15:37.53 | George | Leeds: heh. |
15:38.16 | morsing | Leeds: What are you working on at the moment? |
15:43.27 | George | morsing: bra |
15:43.34 | Leeds | morsing: right now I'm playing a game because it's almost beftime |
15:43.39 | Leeds | bedtime :-) |
15:45.31 | Leeds | but at work, I'm currently tidying up a document (really, file) repository - designed to be accessible from Hong Kong, Sri Lanka, and by customers... with a hugely over-engineered system of ACLs and capabilities, many of which aren't current tested anywhere :-) |
15:50.38 | George | for bras |
15:51.49 | Leeds | yes |
15:52.08 | JAV | wasn't it for money? :D |
15:58.07 | Leeds | not really |
15:59.26 | JAV | not fully, you mean |
16:00.09 | Leeds | well, yes |
16:00.23 | Leeds | I wouldn't be doing it for free - but money isn't my prime driver |
16:00.51 | morsing | Mmm... bras |
16:01.57 | Leeds | it is still a bit strange to be in a situation where everything in the company revolves around women's underwear |
16:02.23 | murb | Leeds: you get a staff discount? |
16:03.03 | Leeds | dunno... but there are plenty of seconds around |
16:03.39 | murb | seconds seem to be all that is onsale in .de |
16:05.26 | JAV | I'm in a similar position, I could be in a really paid job. This time I prefered an intereting project. I'm quite happy now |
16:20.29 | Leeds | oh, it's not that I'm not making good money - just that I didn't chose the job because of the money |
16:25.11 | JAV | I can be here for a limited time. By the end of the project (4 months +-) I'll look for another job, maybe outside spain. |
16:25.25 | JAV | or start my own IT business |
16:43.58 | Leeds | ah well, sleep time |
16:45.18 | JAV | nn Leeds |
16:46.27 | Leeds | night |
18:36.51 | ebbeyes | ;) |
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21:05.38 | SlayerXP | evening |
21:15.09 | JAV | evening SlayerXP |
21:21.13 | SlayerXP | why do so many people not realise the existence of non-ICANN TLDs? |
21:29.57 | Jango | http://www.bethere.co.uk/beonline/canBeHome.do |
21:30.08 | Jango | 24 meg :o |
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23:16.16 | JAV | my dogs were barking at a point in the ground, I check... guess what |
23:16.34 | gregj | kill him |
23:17.01 | JAV | :) |
23:19.13 | JAV | a little "erizo" |
23:20.07 | JAV | opps, my sister took it months ago |
23:20.36 | JAV | I think is something like ekidna |
23:21.08 | JAV | an animal with protection needles |
23:23.24 | JAV | http://www.foyel.com/cartillas/imagenes/196.jpg --> this one |
23:37.39 | Leeds | morning all |
23:38.01 | JAV | morning |
23:38.19 | Leeds | JAV: hedgehog, I think |
23:38.24 | JAV | yes! |
23:38.33 | JAV | like Sonic © |
23:38.34 | JAV | :D |
23:38.42 | Leeds | sweet little beasties |