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06:49.08 | mozrat | Morning |
07:21.29 | Leeds | afternoon |
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07:37.35 | morsing | 'morning |
07:37.45 | morsing | Was there an earthquake last night? |
07:39.43 | Leeds | not that I'm aware of... |
07:39.55 | Leeds | might have been a little party going on in one or two places though |
07:40.02 | morsing | It's not on earthquake.bgs.ac.uk either |
07:40.14 | Leeds | why do you ask? |
07:40.22 | morsing | Are these common enough that it won't be reported? |
07:40.40 | Leeds | in the UK? unlikely |
07:40.45 | morsing | Leeds: I ask because there was an earthquake near or in Aylesbury |
07:41.13 | Leeds | how do you know? |
07:41.21 | morsing | My house was shaking! |
07:41.32 | morsing | It was around 3:10 |
07:41.45 | Leeds | and you're sure it was an earthquake? |
07:42.04 | mozrat | Grrr, stupid 419 scammers that don't leave valid return email addresses |
07:42.10 | morsing | I'm guessing it wasn't an elephant rubbing itself against my house |
07:42.18 | mozrat | how am I supposed to have fun with them if their mail bounces? |
07:42.27 | morsing | mozrat: Did you feel it? |
07:42.30 | Leeds | mozrat: can't you just call? |
07:42.38 | Leeds | morsing: have you felt an earthquake before? |
07:42.45 | morsing | Leeds: No |
07:42.46 | mozrat | morsing: no, but my daughter woke up about that time, I wonder if she did |
07:42.59 | mozrat | I'm a long way from Aylesbury though |
07:42.59 | morsing | mozrat: How old is she? |
07:43.02 | mozrat | morsing: 8 |
07:43.11 | Leeds | I apparently slept through one once |
07:43.18 | mozrat | Leeds, no phone number to call :( |
07:43.27 | morsing | How quickly is the BGS site normally updated? |
07:45.59 | Leeds | dunno... lunchtime... |
07:49.20 | morsing | http://www.quakes.bgs.ac.uk/recbrit.html |
08:15.41 | morsing | I've sent them an email now. Their equipment must be faulty! |
08:39.35 | morsing | How's everyone? |
08:41.19 | morsing | Leeds? |
08:50.26 | Leeds | back from lunch |
08:51.02 | Leeds | pleasantly full of Indian and Sri Lankan food :-) |
08:53.44 | Cope | hello |
08:54.09 | morsing | Cope! |
08:54.49 | Leeds | afternoon Cope :-) |
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09:00.57 | morsing | kbsingh! |
09:01.17 | kbsingh | morsing! |
09:28.21 | Leeds | kbsingh: music |
09:36.22 | rhowe | Well, certainly not secure against MITM attacks |
09:36.30 | wethrin | rhowe: It's security through obscurity. In a good way |
09:36.47 | rhowe | wethrin: Security through obfuscation, I'd say :) |
09:36.58 | rhowe | wethrin: And it's trivially vulnerable to a replay attack. |
09:37.13 | rhowe | wethrin: Use a OTP-type method of determining the ports to knock and I'd give it some credit |
09:37.31 | wethrin | rhowe: Yes, but most people aren't bothered with the effort of replay attacks |
09:37.38 | wethrin | You have other problems if someone is that determined |
09:42.57 | morsing | beer |
09:43.22 | wethrin | Too early! |
09:43.37 | morsing | cawfy |
09:43.44 | wethrin | Yes |
09:44.16 | wethrin | Although I may not be able to have any |
09:44.23 | wethrin | Depends if our kettle is working or not |
10:00.44 | morsing | Why does Parcelforce suck? |
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10:04.33 | rhowe | Maybe this will do what I want |
10:04.40 | rhowe | Since xterm doesn't |
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10:05.57 | morsing | wb |
10:07.53 | wethrin | thanks |
10:07.58 | wethrin | Freenode sucks! |
10:14.37 | rhowe | wow, rxvt-unicode appears to rock |
10:16.05 | wethrin | Hmm |
10:19.35 | wethrin | :) |
10:19.38 | Leeds | there are better things than RH9, but there are much much worse... like domino on as/400 for example |
10:20.03 | wethrin | Indeed |
10:20.15 | Leeds | oh, and it's doing postfix, which is acceptibly unlike qmail, domino or exchange :-) |
10:21.01 | Leeds | to be fair, I shouldn't lump them together - qmail is far worse than the other two :-P |
10:21.35 | morsing | qmail sucks |
10:21.44 | wethrin | YOU SUCK </George> |
10:25.50 | Leeds | except this is where I start cursing webmin |
10:29.01 | Leeds | ugh, sa 2.44 |
10:32.47 | Leeds | argh, temptation... can create a new user with webmin, then ssh in... but I shouldn't |
10:43.14 | morsing | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180748/ |
10:43.14 | morsing | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117407/ |
10:50.57 | wethrin | heh |
11:01.46 | rhowe | mm, tasty bagel |
11:01.57 | rhowe | houmus, chorizo and wholegrain mustard |
11:03.48 | Leeds | bagels and humous next week, back in HK :-) |
11:06.11 | rhowe | chorizo not very Jewish though |
11:06.18 | rhowe | s/Jewish/kosher/ |
11:06.33 | rhowe | Leeds: Oh, and Nokia's predictive text seems to think Lewisham is Jewisham :P |
11:08.05 | Leeds | hmm... |
11:08.39 | rhowe | No definitions found for "jewisham" |
11:08.48 | rhowe | So says the almighty dict |
11:09.22 | rhowe | Leeds: I've finally found a decent X terminal emulator. Full UTF8 support, Xft and rectangular selection |
11:09.38 | rhowe | RIP xterm |
11:09.42 | Leeds | really... |
11:09.49 | rhowe | Leeds: Oh, and it's fast (unlike gnome-terminal) |
11:10.07 | Leeds | ah, well, I'd never use an $DE-terminal |
11:10.07 | rhowe | Leeds: apt-get install rxvt-unicode-ml (oh, wait.. you don't use Debian, do you? :) |
11:10.38 | Leeds | does it have an easy way to change the font size on the fly? |
11:10.39 | rhowe | Leeds: gnome-terminal was the only one I found which actually did UTF8 and Xft sanely, but it's horribly slow |
11:10.45 | rhowe | Leeds: I think so.. |
11:10.49 | rhowe | Leeds: Hm, lemme see |
11:10.52 | Leeds | without having a menu bar! |
11:11.00 | rhowe | No, no menu bar. Not even a context menu. |
11:11.56 | rhowe | Changing fonts (or font sizes, respectively) via the keypad is not yet supported in rxvt-unicode. Bug me if you need this. |
11:12.18 | rhowe | <PROTECTED> |
11:12.21 | rhowe | <PROTECTED> |
11:12.29 | rhowe | rxvt-unicode will automatically re-apply these fonts to the output so far. |
11:12.35 | rhowe | hm, so it does have a menubar.. |
11:13.34 | Leeds | I really like being able to change font size on the fly in xterm... it does xft nicely enough nowadays... and I don't really need utf8 support in my terminal |
11:14.01 | rhowe | xterm does xft, but it doesn't do xft at the same time as UTF8 very well (or I just haven't found the magic incantation) |
11:14.24 | rhowe | There are a lot of font and encoding options and some of them seem to behave oddly in xft mode |
11:15.18 | Leeds | http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/renob/Sun.jpg was apparently spotted flying around a Dell campus in Texas :-) |
11:17.26 | gregj | <PROTECTED> |
11:17.34 | rhowe | gregj: heh |
11:17.45 | rhowe | gregj: dict knows :P |
11:17.53 | rhowe | <PROTECTED> |
11:17.53 | rhowe | <PROTECTED> |
11:17.54 | gregj | <PROTECTED> |
11:18.03 | gregj | but I wanted you to tell me that :P |
11:18.21 | rhowe | gregj: heh, well there you go |
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11:18.34 | wethrin | gregj: It's a vulgar term for a woman's pubic hair or genitals |
11:18.46 | rhowe | gregj: Can also be used as derogatory slang when describing a person |
11:18.52 | rhowe | gregj: e.g. You're a minge |
11:19.02 | gregj | thanks, ie so are you ;) |
12:01.02 | morsing | gregj: It's a vulgar term for a woman's pubic hair or genitals |
12:07.13 | mozrat | gregj is a vulgar term????? |
12:08.40 | JAV | good afternoon |
12:15.52 | gregj | yes I am |
12:25.05 | morsing | Moo |
12:26.01 | Leeds | foo |
12:26.14 | Leeds | yo, moofoo! |
12:29.07 | morsing | Eh? |
12:29.16 | morsing | BMWs suck |
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12:48.50 | Cope | ibot change l litre to gallons |
12:48.54 | Cope | no |
12:49.15 | morsing | Cope: It's 8 pints |
12:49.16 | Cope | ibot convert l litre to gallons |
12:49.21 | Leeds | ibot convert 1 litre to gallon |
12:49.39 | Leeds | ibot convert 1 liter to gallon |
12:49.57 | morsing | ibot: Are you american? |
12:49.59 | Leeds | of course that doesn't tell you which gallon it's talking about |
12:49.59 | Cope | ibot convert 1 gallon to liter |
12:50.08 | morsing | Cope: That's US gallons |
12:50.20 | morsing | 1 gallon is 4.544l |
12:50.28 | Cope | ibot convert 45 litre to gallon |
12:50.38 | Leeds | ibot convert 1 liter to imperial gallon |
12:50.51 | Leeds | wow, didn't expect that to work :-) |
12:51.15 | Cope | ibot convert 45 liter to gallon |
12:51.26 | Cope | ibot convert 45 liter to imperial gallon |
12:51.34 | Leeds | Cope: doing the petrol price calculation? |
12:52.17 | Cope | ibot change 45 UKP to USD |
12:52.25 | Cope | fuck off |
12:52.29 | Leeds | GBP |
12:56.53 | Cope | ibot change 45 GBP to USD |
12:57.03 | Erwin | lol |
12:57.56 | Cope | ibot 82/11.88 |
12:57.59 | ibot | 6.902356902357 |
12:58.15 | Leeds | 11.88? |
12:58.23 | Erwin | ibot convert 1 tsp to dl |
12:58.28 | Cope | yes - americans use american measures? |
12:58.35 | Leeds | ah! |
12:59.17 | Erwin | ibot convert 1 tsp to deciliter |
12:59.31 | Leeds | ibot convert 1 nm to parsec |
12:59.35 | Erwin | ibot convert 1 tsp to exaliter |
13:00.13 | Leeds | ibot convert 1 heathen to jesus |
13:00.14 | Erwin | Good. That will be useful when I have no spoons but just an exaliter jug. |
13:01.26 | Cope | ibot convert jesus to islam |
13:01.41 | Erwin | ibot convert void* to char* |
13:01.52 | Leeds | ibot teach the world to sing |
13:02.20 | Cope | Erwin: do you work in docklands as well as live? |
13:03.15 | morsing | ibot sucks |
13:03.17 | ibot | Look who's talking |
13:03.23 | Erwin | Cope: In California, actually. Quite a commute. |
13:04.11 | Erwin | Cope: Really. I telecommute, though visit them occasionally. |
13:04.14 | Leeds | Erwin: you're on a cruise... in your office? |
13:05.18 | Cope | lol - who was the last english person to fuck an ozzie and bring back the ashes? |
13:05.36 | Cope | ... |
13:05.46 | Cope | Paula Yates :-) |
13:06.02 | Leeds | hmm... heh |
13:06.02 | Erwin | Leeds: On a cruise? |
13:06.17 | Leeds | Erwin: in your office, yes |
13:07.47 | Leeds | Erwin: I bet you get weirder things than me with your breakfast cereal |
13:08.21 | Leeds | anyway, hometime... I may be back, if I can get the dial-up working at home |
13:25.37 | mozrat | Cope, *groan* at the joke :) |
13:41.04 | wethrin | hello |
13:41.17 | morsing | hello |
13:41.20 | wethrin | hello |
13:41.43 | morsing | hello |
13:42.10 | wethrin | hello |
13:42.52 | morsing | Stop it |
13:43.38 | wethrin | Tidyup |
14:10.45 | Cope | mozrat: why? |
14:10.52 | Cope | gah |
14:10.56 | Cope | morsing person |
14:11.36 | morsing | Cope: I've only tried using it 3-4 times but it's always filled with minor and some major error |
14:11.39 | morsing | s |
14:11.47 | wethrin | morsing: Correct it :) |
14:11.50 | morsing | Including the info on danish food I just read |
14:12.07 | morsing | wethrin: So the person who wrote it can correct it back? |
14:12.15 | morsing | I'm not going to start a war |
14:12.18 | Cope | lol |
14:12.26 | wethrin | morsing: Yes :) |
14:12.31 | Cope | hello wethrin |
14:12.36 | wethrin | HI COPE |
14:12.44 | morsing | Something like wikipedia is just never going to work |
14:12.52 | Cope | erm |
14:13.17 | Cope | these things called wheels - they'll never catch on |
14:13.34 | Cope | wikipedia is awesome :-) |
14:13.37 | morsing | It has caught on - that's the scary thing |
14:13.48 | Cope | indeed |
14:13.49 | morsing | Cope: Awesome but incorrect |
14:14.00 | Cope | morsing: often corrected, though |
14:14.15 | Cope | it does self-correct - and you rarely see arguments |
14:14.40 | Cope | eg if you changed the food stuff, you could easily explain why |
14:23.33 | Cope | hmmm |
14:24.13 | Cope | error while loading shared libraries: libdistc++.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
14:24.23 | wethrin | Don't use C++ |
14:24.27 | wethrin | It's bad for you |
14:24.34 | Cope | the program is written in c++ |
14:24.44 | Cope | what do you reckon will provide libdistc++ |
14:24.44 | wethrin | Don't use it :) |
14:24.51 | wethrin | distcc ? |
14:25.15 | wethrin | Doesn't the documentation say what libraries are required? |
14:27.18 | Cope | never seen this problem before - will see what the docs say |
14:42.41 | morsing | wethrin pts/2 eng9199.dur.ac.u Mon13 25:01m 0.02s 0.02s -bash |
14:43.28 | Erwin | In what, debian? |
14:44.35 | wethrin | morsing: That's me |
14:44.58 | morsing | wethrin: I know. You forgot to ;ogout and I forgot to set a timeout :-) |
14:45.04 | wethrin | hehe |
14:45.08 | morsing | s/;ougout/lougout/ |
14:45.13 | wethrin | logged out |
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15:07.29 | mozrat | hello ebbeyes |
15:08.12 | morsing | ebbeyes! |
15:33.32 | wethrin | Urghl |
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15:41.59 | morsing | Urghl? |
15:43.37 | wethrin | Urghl |
15:43.43 | morsing | Ey-up? |
15:44.13 | wethrin | E! |
15:56.03 | wethrin | BEER |
15:56.07 | wethrin | beery beer |
16:07.29 | morsing | Tuborg! |
16:08.02 | wethrin | It's all Carlsberg |
16:08.28 | morsing | Mmm... but still different |
16:08.36 | morsing | Tuborg Red Label |
16:08.37 | wethrin | Meh :) |
16:08.43 | morsing | Yes it is |
16:08.52 | wethrin | : |
16:08.53 | wethrin | :) |
16:09.13 | morsing | http://www.axelsen.mobilixnet.dk/html/beer/tuborg/rod.html |
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21:01.51 | mozrat | How long have I been gone? |
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21:16.27 | z00dax | is that what you were looking for ? |
21:16.56 | mozrat | yes |
21:16.58 | mozrat | thanks |
21:17.35 | mozrat | If Bush is on the news right now saying he takes full responsibility for the Katrina fiasco and the head of FEMA has resigned |
21:17.45 | mozrat | why hasn't Bush resigned? |
21:21.05 | z00dax | cause daddy didnt' say he could |
21:23.41 | mozrat | ahh |
21:25.50 | z00dax | somehow ... Bush dosent seem to be the resigning kinda guy . Someone had to go. Someone did. |
21:26.31 | mozrat | then I'm surprised he chose to admit "the buck stops here" when some other guy resigned |
21:27.07 | mozrat | maybe he should ask his electorate if they think he should resign - although having said that the majority love him |
21:37.51 | z00dax | is it still a majority ? |
21:38.00 | z00dax | or is that a majority of some segments |
21:39.43 | gregj | ibot change 1560 EUR to PLN |
21:39.59 | mozrat | well a "majority" that voted him back into office.. a bigger majority than the first time |
21:40.12 | mozrat | (when the majority was actually a minority :) |
21:40.15 | gregj | ibot change 140170 EUR to PLN |
21:41.37 | gregj | ibot 115000 EUR to PLN |
21:42.39 | z00dax | btw guys, my laptop went through a meltdown, and is now a laptop-no-more, looking for AMD64's out there... any recommends ? |
21:42.53 | gregj | ibot change 115000 EUR to PLN |
21:46.52 | mozrat | unlucky z00dax :( |
21:47.09 | mozrat | Fetching message headers... [8770/15378] |
21:47.14 | mozrat | very slow |
21:47.16 | mozrat | grr |
21:47.25 | z00dax | is that a day's spamtrap ? |
21:47.35 | mozrat | no - it's 4 months of mail |
21:47.56 | mozrat | I need to archive it off - this is from muttng (over VPN I admit) |
21:48.12 | mozrat | but Evolution on the LAN is taking 5 minutes+ to start up |
21:48.21 | mozrat | which isn't very acceptable |
21:49.51 | z00dax | 5 min ? |
21:50.01 | z00dax | my grandpa used to have a computer like that as well... |
21:51.21 | mozrat | yes |
21:51.32 | mozrat | It's IMAP |
21:51.41 | z00dax | use MozMail |
21:51.44 | mozrat | not a local mail spool |
21:52.55 | z00dax | s/MozMail/Mozilla Mail - or thunderbird / |
21:53.05 | z00dax | do you have spamassassin running under Evo ? |
21:53.37 | mozrat | Error opening mailbox |
21:53.39 | mozrat | bah |
21:53.41 | mozrat | no |
21:54.08 | mozrat | z00dax: tried Thunderbird - it wasn't bad but I didn't quite like it |
21:54.49 | z00dax | me neither, I am sticking with Mozilla Mail, have had my email over IMAP for a few years now - and its been good to me. |
21:56.28 | mozrat | imap is goodness |
21:56.54 | z00dax | Cyrus-imap is goodness++ |
21:57.43 | mozrat | Courier IMAP is slightly less goodness but good nonetheless |
21:57.53 | mozrat | I like the simplicity of Maildir/ |
21:58.03 | mozrat | it's been handy for me in the past |
21:58.23 | mozrat | like quickly finding individual emails from the shell |
21:58.37 | mozrat | cyrus uses some database layer correct? |
21:58.41 | z00dax | yea |
21:59.22 | mozrat | I know that Cyrus is a better IMAP server featurewise |
21:59.43 | z00dax | for some reason, all rolled into one solution of Courier .... makes me a bit uncomfortable... been a sendmail user for long ( now drifting to exim ) |
22:00.33 | mozrat | explain "all rolled into one"? |
22:01.15 | mozrat | it seems more modular to me |
22:01.24 | z00dax | it tries to do everything |
22:01.33 | mozrat | you can deliver into ~/Maildir/ using whichever MDA you like |
22:01.37 | z00dax | sure, it would be, since its all fitting around the same framework |
22:02.23 | mozrat | hmm |
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22:07.12 | stephanb | evenin |
22:07.33 | z00dax | hey stephanb |
22:09.00 | stephanb | hey |
22:09.22 | mozrat | enough for me |
22:09.27 | stephanb | i am testing my broadband router |
22:09.29 | mozrat | hello/goodbye stephen |
22:09.36 | stephanb | bye mozrat |
22:09.40 | mozrat | goodbye z00dax |
22:09.40 | z00dax | cya mozrat |
22:09.47 | mozrat | nn |
22:09.56 | z00dax | stephanb, i guess it works ... :) |
22:10.23 | stephanb | z00dax: so far so good |
22:10.35 | z00dax | what router is it ? |
22:10.39 | stephanb | the real test will be with gnomemeeting ;-) |
22:10.53 | stephanb | D-link 504T |
22:11.10 | z00dax | cool |
22:11.11 | stephanb | it's actually a linux based router |
22:11.29 | stephanb | not that i can change anyting with that... |
22:12.33 | stephanb | anyway, time for bed now |
22:12.35 | z00dax | still, makes for good geek value |
22:13.05 | stephanb | oh yeah, i hava an "all linux" home now :-) |
22:15.20 | stephanb | cu l8r |
22:15.26 | stephanb | bye everybody ! |
22:15.29 | z00dax | bubye |
22:15.40 | z00dax | land! |
22:15.59 | stephanb | |=----| |
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