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| 05:09.34 | new2unix | moin all |
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| 07:35.32 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 08:07.33 | mozrat | hello chaps |
| 08:11.33 | morsing | Mmm... Fuel |
| 08:12.49 | morsing | Personally I bought for more than £100 yesterday |
| 08:13.04 | mozrat | was that more than you would usually buy? |
| 08:14.28 | morsing | No. I avoided going Monday because of queues but ran out Tuesday night so had to get in line to fill up |
| 08:15.13 | mozrat | Did the garage raise the price? |
| 08:16.09 | morsing | I think so. Price was above 100p/l which I've never seen before |
| 08:16.56 | morsing | http://readlist.com/lists/postfix.org/postfix-users/3/15271.html |
| 08:20.24 | mozrat | thats helpful :) |
| 08:20.34 | morsing | Mmm... |
| 08:20.52 | mozrat | do you have the same error message? |
| 08:22.47 | morsing | Yes |
| 08:23.40 | mozrat | Is it permissions on /var/spool/postfix ? |
| 08:24.00 | mozrat | drwx-wx--T 2 postfix postdrop 4096 2005-09-14 09:19 maildrop |
| 08:24.09 | morsing | YEs |
| 08:24.41 | mozrat | what permissions do you have? |
| 08:24.49 | morsing | drwx-wx--T 2 postfix postdrop 4096 2005-09-14 09:19 maildrop |
| 08:25.09 | morsing | #Why did it remove mysql when I removed postfix? |
| 08:26.10 | mozrat | It shouldn't have - on Debian? |
| 08:26.24 | morsing | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 08:26.24 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.39 | morsing | I did apt-get remove postfix |
| 08:27.40 | morsing | Ok, re-installed, no difference! |
| 08:27.46 | morsing | Must be a bug! |
| 08:27.48 | mozrat | Depends: mysql-common-4.1 (>= 4.1.11a-4), mysql-client-4.1 (>= 4.1.11a-4), debconf (>= 1.2.9), libdbi-perl, perl (>= 5.6), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libmysqlclient14, libncurses5 (>= 5.4-1), libreadline4 (>= 4.3-1), libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libwrap0, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), adduser (>= 3.40), psmisc, passwd, mailx |
| 08:27.53 | mozrat | mysql depends on mailx |
| 08:28.02 | morsing | Strange |
| 08:28.09 | mozrat | I wonder if removing postfix (and therefore mailx) caused it |
| 08:28.17 | morsing | It did |
| 08:28.25 | mozrat | bit silly |
| 08:28.58 | mozrat | did uninstalling it purge the content of /var/spool/postfix |
| 08:29.02 | mozrat | I don't think it would have done |
| 08:29.39 | mozrat | apt-get remove --purge postfix (IIRC) |
| 08:29.46 | mozrat | there is a --purge option in apt |
| 08:31.02 | morsing | It didn't |
| 08:34.35 | morsing | mozrat: This problem cannot be solved. --purge removed the spool directories but re-installing hasn't fixed it. |
| 08:38.27 | morsing | Also the DNS bug is un-resolvable |
| 08:39.45 | mozrat | It must be fixable - you are just frustrated :) |
| 08:41.06 | morsing | How? My resolver resolves camelotinteractive.com.s200b2.psmtp.com just fine but postfix rejects it because "Name or service not known" |
| 08:42.39 | mozrat | could it be the reverse record for that host? it's a bit funky |
| 08:42.41 | mozrat | 10.147.126.207.in-addr.arpa. 14400 IN PTR *.s200a1.psmtp.com. |
| 08:43.12 | mozrat | doesn't match the "EHLO camelotinteractive.com.s200b2.psmtp.com" string postfix is checking for |
| 08:46.00 | morsing | mozrat: But it's rejecting 2/3 of email based on this problem. It worked fine with 2.1.4 |
| 08:46.15 | morsing | I've removed all restrictions and it's still not working |
| 09:05.33 | *** join/#gllug cup (n=alex@netvoya-adsl.demon.co.uk) |
| 09:05.37 | cup | morning |
| 09:05.44 | mozrat | Hello cup |
| 09:06.23 | cup | anyone know of a good reference for wireless pci cards (linux capable obviouisly) |
| 09:10.07 | mozrat | morsing: try and run tcpdump when the servers connect and see what is going on.. is postfix doing DNS lookups at that stage? |
| 09:10.22 | mozrat | I can have a look if you want to send me the capture file |
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| 09:16.38 | wh00dini | hello |
| 09:17.12 | mozrat | wh00dini: you suck |
| 09:17.35 | wh00dini | good morning to you too |
| 09:18.33 | wh00dini | i've come here b/c of an issue i have and the only one talking isn't smart enough to solve me problem |
| 09:18.41 | wh00dini | :( |
| 09:19.18 | wethrin | morsing: ? |
| 09:19.31 | mozrat | wh00dini: you mean me? |
| 09:19.36 | wh00dini | :) |
| 09:19.42 | mozrat | *grumble* *grumble* |
| 09:19.49 | cup | fire away I am sure someone here can send you down the wrong path |
| 09:20.02 | wh00dini | cup great! |
| 09:20.40 | wh00dini | well basically when doing an apt-get upgrade --fix-missing i get an error connecting to localhost?! error to follow . . . |
| 09:20.58 | wh00dini | Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release.gpg Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused) |
| 09:21.39 | wh00dini | prior to that i get this error: Err http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restricted Packages |
| 09:21.39 | wh00dini | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:22.05 | wethrin | Presumably you have nothing listening on localhost:4001 |
| 09:22.13 | wh00dini | i don't think so |
| 09:22.17 | wethrin | Fix your apt sources.list |
| 09:22.38 | mozrat | his sources.list is the same as mine |
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| 09:23.19 | mozrat | I thought initially that security.ubuntu.com was giving HTTP redirects to localhost for some reason but I can update successfully |
| 09:23.21 | wethrin | Do you have something listening on localhost:4001? |
| 09:24.12 | wh00dini | no i don't |
| 09:25.18 | cup | is this an intermittent error or every time you try to update? |
| 09:25.37 | wethrin | no, mozrat |
| 09:25.44 | wh00dini | this is the first time that i have seen this error, but have tried multiple times |
| 09:26.50 | cup | I think I have noticed errors similar to this when urls are temporary unanavilable |
| 09:27.39 | wh00dini | i was able to load the URLs in a firefox w/o issue |
| 09:27.39 | Leeds | just when you need SlayerXP around to help... |
| 09:37.32 | mozrat | Morning leeds |
| 09:40.10 | morsing | mozrat: What's your email address? |
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| 09:43.02 | morsing | ebbeyes! |
| 09:44.38 | morsing | mozrat, wethrin: http://www.morsing.cc/tcpdump.txt |
| 09:45.22 | mozrat | morsing simon dot morris at cmtww dot com for future reference |
| 09:45.50 | mozrat | for any Nigeran Spammer that read the #gllug archives, I do not want to launder your dead uncles fortune |
| 09:45.53 | mozrat | thanks anyway |
| 09:48.00 | wethrin | morsing: what about the tcpdump? |
| 09:48.18 | mozrat | morsing: can you run with the following options |
| 09:48.21 | morsing | Shows an attempt to recieve an email |
| 09:48.26 | mozrat | tcpdump -s 1500 -w morsing.cap |
| 09:48.35 | mozrat | and then mail the morsing.cap file |
| 09:48.42 | mozrat | so I can see it in Ethereal |
| 09:48.43 | wethrin | ah |
| 09:50.23 | rhowe | The "Butplug" Salvage Association is a thrusting creaming style of BMT Salvage "Give it to me" Ltd. Member of the squirting BMT group of companies. |
| 09:51.43 | morsing | mozrat: Wait - wrong data! |
| 09:52.55 | mozrat | k |
| 09:53.32 | morsing | That's better I think |
| 09:53.42 | mozrat | did you post it to your webspace? |
| 09:53.47 | morsing | No |
| 09:53.51 | morsing | Can I? |
| 09:54.09 | mozrat | whatevers easiest for you |
| 09:54.58 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/morsing.cap |
| 09:56.39 | rhowe | "Inventor turns dead cats into diesel" http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1534821.html |
| 09:56.40 | morsing | Can ethereal run in console mode? |
| 09:56.53 | mozrat | no, it's a graphical analyzer |
| 09:59.02 | mozrat | that email went through OK though? |
| 09:59.03 | mozrat | http://www.beerandspeech.org/tmp/morsing1.txt |
| 09:59.31 | morsing | mozrat: I can send, not recieve |
| 09:59.55 | mozrat | morsing: can you do a trace when it fails then pls? |
| 10:00.10 | morsing | mozrat: It did fail |
| 10:00.18 | morsing | What's missing from the trace? |
| 10:00.46 | mozrat | well the email was successfully sent |
| 10:00.51 | mozrat | where is the error? |
| 10:01.12 | morsing | Sent? I sent an email from camelot to my dodgy mail server. |
| 10:01.45 | mozrat | one sec - phone ringing :( |
| 10:02.45 | morsing | Sorry, mail dir was missing :-( |
| 10:02.51 | mozrat | ah |
| 10:04.12 | morsing | I get these two lines: |
| 10:04.13 | morsing | Sep 14 13:00:53 localhost postfix/smtp[2513]: warning: no MX host for camelotinteractive.com has a valid A record |
| 10:04.16 | morsing | Sep 14 13:00:53 localhost postfix/smtp[2513]: 646D7E3: to=<henrik.morsing@camelotinteractive.com>, relay=none, delay=0, status=bounced ([camelotinteractive.com.s200b2.psmtp.com]: Name or service not known) |
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| 10:04.28 | morsing | Try http://www.morsing.cc/morsing.cap again |
| 10:04.33 | morsing | It failed this time |
| 10:04.56 | mozrat | k |
| 10:06.15 | morsing | dig -t mx camelotinteractive.com |
| 10:06.18 | morsing | camelotinteractive.com. 77384 IN MX 100 camelotinteractive.com.s200a1.psmtp.com. |
| 10:06.21 | morsing | dig camelotinteractive.com.s200a1.psmtp.com. |
| 10:06.24 | morsing | camelotinteractive.com.s200a1.psmtp.com. 14400 IN A 207.126.147.10 |
| 10:06.28 | morsing | ??? |
| 10:06.35 | morsing | I don't see the problem |
| 10:08.17 | rhowe | Postfix hates you |
| 10:09.30 | morsing | rhowe: I've realised that |
| 10:09.38 | morsing | I hate Postfix as well |
| 10:09.46 | morsing | ibot kick postfix |
| 10:09.49 | ibot | bugger off sod! |
| 10:10.12 | rhowe | haha |
| 10:10.18 | rhowe | ibot hates you too |
| 10:10.31 | mozrat | ok - phone call gone |
| 10:10.59 | morsing | What's the latest version of postfix? |
| 10:11.12 | mozrat | morsing - you are running the trace on 82.138.249.169 is that right? |
| 10:11.25 | morsing | Yes |
| 10:11.50 | morsing | I've noticed my Postfix is quite old. Maybe I should upgrade? |
| 10:11.58 | mozrat | can you post the output of 'grep 1FCD7E0 /var/log/mail.log' pls |
| 10:12.29 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/maillog.txt |
| 10:12.52 | morsing | That's a different error though |
| 10:13.00 | Cope | morsing: 2.2 official release patch level 5 |
| 10:14.51 | morsing | Ey-up! It's working now. Well, one mail came through |
| 10:15.16 | Erwin | Was it spam? |
| 10:15.24 | morsing | No - my own email :-) |
| 10:16.08 | morsing | So what was the problem? |
| 10:16.23 | morsing | I still get lots of: |
| 10:16.24 | morsing | Sep 14 13:13:16 localhost postfix/postdrop[30004]: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/95858.30004: Permission denied |
| 10:16.44 | wethrin | Delete it from the queue |
| 10:16.59 | morsing | emil:/var/mail# mailq |
| 10:16.59 | morsing | Mail queue is empty |
| 10:17.37 | morsing | Delete what? |
| 10:20.49 | mozrat | morsing ps aux | grep postfix ? |
| 10:23.28 | morsing | root 2643 0.0 0.1 3044 1148 ? Ss 13:11 0:00 /usr/lib/postfix/master |
| 10:23.32 | morsing | postfix 2645 0.0 0.1 3052 1092 ? S 13:11 0:00 pickup -l -t fifo -u -c |
| 10:23.35 | morsing | postfix 2646 0.0 0.1 3084 1204 ? S 13:11 0:00 qmgr -l -t fifo -u -c |
| 10:26.09 | mozrat | morsing - can you change master.cf |
| 10:26.11 | mozrat | and make |
| 10:26.12 | mozrat | smtp inet n - - - - smtpd |
| 10:26.16 | mozrat | smtp inet n - - - - smtpd -v |
| 10:27.27 | morsing | You mean change the line or make two? |
| 10:27.33 | mozrat | change the line |
| 10:27.36 | mozrat | add "-v" |
| 10:27.39 | mozrat | and restart postfix |
| 10:27.51 | morsing | Then what happens? |
| 10:28.02 | mozrat | it runs in debug mode |
| 10:28.13 | mozrat | try again and post the relevant part of mail.log |
| 10:28.37 | mozrat | s/debug/verbose/ |
| 10:28.48 | mozrat | you can get it run in much more detail |
| 10:28.52 | mozrat | but verbose is handy |
| 10:30.03 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/maillog.txt |
| 10:30.20 | morsing | Last 1000 lines. Hope that's enough |
| 10:35.08 | mozrat | ep 14 13:26:19 localhost postfix/smtpd[2792]: mail_addr_find: ghost@morsing.cc -> "|/usr/local/bin/ghostmail" |
| 10:35.19 | mozrat | that mail was piped to ghostmail |
| 10:35.43 | morsing | Yes |
| 10:35.55 | morsing | Well, one of them was. |
| 10:36.46 | morsing | mozrat: It works a lot better now but still randomly fails |
| 10:38.06 | mozrat | Seems that it fails after the SMTP conversation though |
| 10:38.26 | mozrat | Did you disable the DNS checking etc? |
| 10:39.43 | morsing | Yes. main.cf is the one .deb creates |
| 10:39.53 | morsing | mozrat: It's failing again now |
| 10:41.06 | mozrat | can you post the relevant part of the log |
| 10:41.15 | morsing | Relevant? |
| 10:41.19 | morsing | With debug? |
| 10:41.54 | mozrat | well - the part of the log where the email failed |
| 10:45.22 | morsing | It now refuses to write to the log |
| 10:46.01 | morsing | Ahh... Since re-installing it has been using a different log. I've been sending you old logs! |
| 10:47.01 | mozrat | morsing, want to share a screen session on that server over SSH, I'll mail you my rsa key and you can delete me from authorized_keys2 when we are done |
| 10:47.23 | morsing | Sure |
| 10:47.48 | mozrat | which address shall I mail it to? :) |
| 10:47.57 | mozrat | I don't want it to bounce you know |
| 10:47.58 | mozrat | :P |
| 10:48.31 | morsing | My camelot address |
| 10:48.37 | mozrat | k |
| 10:49.15 | mozrat | sent |
| 10:51.18 | morsing | Done |
| 10:51.49 | mozrat | which user shall I logon as |
| 10:51.54 | morsing | mozrat |
| 10:51.57 | mozrat | cool |
| 10:52.38 | morsing | Nice :-) |
| 10:52.57 | mozrat | ahh, no screen |
| 10:53.10 | morsing | There is now! |
| 10:53.32 | morsing | Have to go to lunch. Will be back! |
| 10:53.54 | mozrat | k |
| 11:01.33 | JAV | hello |
| 11:05.43 | *** part/#gllug cup (n=alex@netvoya-adsl.demon.co.uk) |
| 11:26.33 | wethrin | Leeds: ping |
| 11:33.34 | gregj | we are writing one on global scale, for all countries, imagine that ;) |
| 11:33.42 | wethrin | heh |
| 11:35.18 | rhowe | heh, I'll sell you mine for US$3m |
| 11:35.23 | rhowe | Once it's written, that is |
| 11:36.01 | wethrin | MEEEELION |
| 11:37.44 | rhowe | heh, .kr rappers really could do with some help coming up with decent rhymes |
| 11:37.45 | Leeds | wethrin: pong |
| 11:37.51 | rhowe | "let me go ho, tic tac toe ho" |
| 11:38.01 | wethrin | Leeds: Too late now :) |
| 11:38.11 | wethrin | Wanted to know if making a cheque out to "J-Colo" was okay |
| 11:38.35 | Leeds | ah, yes... except we should be somewhere near the start of the process of de-Ltd.-ification |
| 11:38.52 | wethrin | Hm. So cash the cheque quickly :) |
| 11:39.21 | Leeds | :-) |
| 11:39.55 | wethrin | I've stuck a note in there saying that he should let me know if there's any further payment required |
| 11:39.58 | Leeds | basically, although the limited liability side of it is nice, the paperwork is far too much to be worth it |
| 11:40.33 | wethrin | fair enough |
| 11:42.48 | wethrin | Right. cheque's in the postal system now |
| 11:43.31 | Leeds | good man |
| 11:43.45 | wethrin | With an official UoD stamp, too :) |
| 11:47.06 | Leeds | wow |
| 11:47.22 | wethrin | Well, it saves going to the post office and doesn't cost me a stamp :) |
| 11:47.58 | rhowe | "The complaints system is temporarily disabled, please lodge a complaint if that is not OK with you." |
| 11:48.40 | Leeds | and on the same day Mailbox got bought... |
| 11:48.47 | Leeds | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/14/186k_mailbox/ |
| 11:52.30 | wethrin | Yar |
| 11:52.35 | wethrin | Read that |
| 11:53.57 | morsing | Back |
| 11:56.03 | morsing | mozrat: |
| 11:56.04 | morsing | ? |
| 11:56.21 | mozrat | hi |
| 12:03.24 | Leeds | rsync++ |
| 12:10.00 | Leeds | does exactly what it says on the tin, and you can't ask for more than that :-) |
| 12:12.46 | mozrat | morsing |
| 12:31.31 | morsing | mozrat |
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| 12:45.48 | morsing | How do I configure VLANs with the 2.6 kernel? |
| 12:47.51 | morsing | Ey-up |
| 12:48.57 | rhowe | morsing: I would assume "ip", but don't know. Is there anything on lartc.org? |
| 12:53.23 | Cope | Leeds: did you program much (lots) in C ? |
| 12:55.18 | morsing | rhowe: Nothing about VLANs on lartc.org |
| 12:55.31 | morsing | It was done with vconfig on kernel 2.4 |
| 12:56.05 | Leeds | Cope: I did... but not recently |
| 13:00.49 | Leeds | ibot change 1.66 usd to gbp |
| 13:01.11 | Leeds | ibot change 1.66 gbp to usd |
| 13:02.00 | Leeds | hmm... if I didn't know better, I'd think they'd taken a couple of 0's off the amount they charged me for the conference last week |
| 13:08.49 | mozrat | Mr Morsing |
| 13:08.56 | mozrat | I am here |
| 13:09.18 | mozrat | I have finished my 30 minute conversation about how to click Start, Settings, Control Panel |
| 13:09.24 | mozrat | and I am now highly vexed |
| 13:09.39 | mozrat | how can people claim to not have "settings" on their start menu when I KNOW IT IS THERE |
| 13:10.56 | Leeds | ibot change 300 LKR to GBP |
| 13:11.45 | Leeds | that explains it... they charged me Rupees, not USD :-) |
| 13:14.07 | morsing | Mr mozrat! |
| 13:14.14 | mozrat | Mr Morsing |
| 13:14.25 | mozrat | or VNC listening viewers |
| 13:14.30 | mozrat | they save the day huzzah |
| 13:15.37 | morsing | Did you find out anything? |
| 13:15.50 | mozrat | I sent various tests and they all worked |
| 13:15.59 | mozrat | you are logging to syslog and not mail.log which is annoying |
| 13:16.11 | mozrat | I had that a while ago and the answer was to stop postfix |
| 13:16.18 | mozrat | then stop sysklogd |
| 13:16.21 | mozrat | and then restart both |
| 13:16.25 | mozrat | let me do that now |
| 13:20.32 | mozrat | still logging to syslog |
| 13:20.35 | mozrat | POS |
| 13:40.49 | mozrat | but mail delivery works |
| 13:41.29 | morsing | mozrat: Sometimes |
| 13:41.53 | mozrat | morsing: make it fail for me |
| 13:43.06 | morsing | ibot doom mozrat |
| 13:43.13 | Cope | Leeds: ciolleague looking for an IDE recommendation |
| 13:43.18 | Cope | Leeds: I suggested vim + gcc |
| 13:43.35 | Leeds | indeed |
| 13:48.23 | morsing | mozrat: It does seem to work now. |
| 13:48.35 | morsing | I will configure it now to see if it breaks! |
| 13:48.54 | mozrat | heh |
| 13:48.59 | mozrat | does it log to mail.log now? |
| 13:55.10 | morsing | No |
| 13:58.31 | mozrat | ibot sing |
| 13:58.34 | ibot | ACTION sings off key Whaohwooaaoooaaah! Good bye 70s! |
| 14:02.02 | morsing | ibot hug mozrat |
| 14:02.04 | ibot | ACTION hugs mozrat |
| 14:05.56 | wethrin | Heh |
| 14:17.38 | *** join/#gllug SteveC (n=steve@host-84-9-44-252.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 14:18.31 | Leeds | evening SteveC |
| 14:24.33 | SteveC | Leeds: hello. Didn't realise there were so many people idling here... |
| 14:25.56 | Leeds | you calling me idle? |
| 14:27.06 | morsing | Hi SteveC |
| 14:27.22 | Leeds | SteveC: what are you doing with yourself nowadays, anyway? |
| 14:27.42 | wethrin | SteveC! |
| 14:29.38 | SteveC | I'm trying to figure out who you all are first of all. I've just moved website to asklater.com, and I'm working from home on openstreetmap.org |
| 14:30.15 | Leeds | SteveC: if it helps you work out who I am, I'm in a bra factory in Sri Lanka |
| 14:31.38 | Leeds | is that funny? |
| 14:33.20 | morsing | steveC: Are you the guy who wrote the book? |
| 14:33.45 | mozrat | how is it going? |
| 14:33.55 | Leeds | and openstreetmap.org seems to be severely lacking when it comes to Sri Lanka... |
| 14:34.06 | morsing | And Denmark |
| 14:34.37 | wethrin | SteveC: Well, I was a CompSci at UCL last year.... |
| 14:35.09 | SteveC | Leeds: it is funny, not what I expected at all :-) |
| 14:35.16 | morsing | SteveC: I'm the Volvo driver |
| 14:35.36 | SteveC | morsing: if you mean Mapping Hacks, no that was Jo Walsh and Schuyler Earle, mappinghacks.com |
| 14:35.54 | morsing | SteveC: No - I meant "Games programming in C++" |
| 14:35.58 | Leeds | SteveC: if it helps, you may be learning to drive, but I never rescued my Fiat |
| 14:36.08 | Leeds | morsing: you're thinking of SteveG |
| 14:36.19 | morsing | Ahhh... Not SteveC then ;-) |
| 14:42.26 | morsing | ~seen SteveG |
| 14:42.31 | ibot | steveg <~steveg@steveg.demon.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 256d 1h 8m 58s ago, saying: '(cacko is 1.22 is stunning by the way - thx to all involved)'. |
| 14:42.46 | wethrin | ~seen steev |
| 14:42.48 | ibot | steev <steev@cpc2-lutn3-3-0-cust56.lutn.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 617d 12h 42m 31s ago, saying: 'nn (to who ever's left)'. |
| 14:42.48 | Leeds | okay, that's probably not the steveg I meant |
| 14:42.50 | wethrin | ~seen spypigeon |
| 14:42.52 | ibot | spypigeon <steev@cpc1-lutn3-3-0-cust10.lutn.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 590d 21h 13m 33s ago, saying: 'Fine with me...I'm just a bot anyhow ;)'. |
| 14:42.59 | Leeds | one of them probably is :-) |
| 14:43.19 | morsing | He doesn't come here often does he?> |
| 14:43.41 | Leeds | nope |
| 14:43.41 | morsing | ibot cacko |
| 14:43.43 | ibot | i guess cacko is http://www.cacko.biz |
| 14:46.17 | morsing | Mmm... Tyrkisk peber |
| 15:07.46 | Leeds | hmm... that Israeli site which was advertising really cheap DVD/CDs... they mailed me to say they'd got the price wrong, and did I mind paying about twice as much - I mailed back saying that was fine, but that they were going to use the stored credit-card details for me, which are out of date... they mailed back asking me to email them my card details... |
| 15:07.57 | Leeds | email card details to a random online shop??? |
| 15:08.51 | wethrin | heh |
| 15:09.27 | Leeds | the man in Sri Lanka, he say no |
| 15:10.30 | Leeds | quite apart from the fact that I'd expect them to query a transaction with a billing address in the UK and a delivery address in Hong Kong |
| 15:20.14 | Leeds | okay, it's 20 past 9 pm... getting to time to be leaving the office |
| 15:56.26 | rhowe | wethrin: hm? |
| 15:57.00 | wethrin | Saturday? |
| 15:57.12 | Leeds | hometime |
| 15:57.14 | rhowe | What about it? |
| 15:57.39 | wethrin | What time should I get to Manchester around? |
| 15:58.33 | rhowe | hm.. I'll be around from about 10am I guess |
| 15:58.47 | rhowe | wethrin: It won't be a beerfest though :P |
| 15:58.52 | wethrin | Right. Well, given it's a 3-hour journey from here, I'm not going to be around that long :) |
| 15:58.52 | rhowe | wethrin: Got Jia to entertain |
| 15:59.03 | wethrin | Bah. What's wrong with beer? |
| 15:59.05 | rhowe | wethrin: Also, I'm on a tight budget |
| 16:03.07 | wethrin | Hm |
| 16:05.20 | wethrin | And I do have a website to finish off ideally this weekend |
| 16:05.46 | wethrin | so not sure if I'll make it. Blah. |
| 16:39.51 | rhowe | Docklands Light Railway Service Disruption |
| 16:39.52 | rhowe | Delays are occurring bdue to a demonstration. |
| 16:40.05 | rhowe | wethrin: OK, well I'll be there if you're not :P |
| 16:40.25 | Erwin | I wonder if any of that weaponry on the arms fair is actually live |
| 17:10.50 | *** join/#gllug AngelChild (n=Catalyst@jamesmorse.plus.com) |
| 17:27.43 | kbsingh | Erwin: one way to find out.... |
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| 19:01.31 | rhowe | Someone just asked me an odd question - "will they have pies at heathrow?" |
| 19:01.39 | rhowe | wethrin: Does Heathrow have pies? |
| 19:06.47 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.00 | wethrin | It couldn't not |
| 20:00.29 | rhowe | http://siksai.co.uk/gallery/sweden2005/ |
| 20:00.42 | rhowe | 160MiB of raw files down to 3.9MiB of JPEGs. Not bad :) |
| 20:00.50 | rhowe | Still another hundred or two to plough through though |
| 20:01.51 | wethrin | :_) |
| 20:02.47 | rhowe | then there are other outings which I haven't even started on |
| 20:03.41 | wethrin | :) |
| 20:04.25 | rhowe | $ ls *.crw|wc -l |
| 20:04.26 | rhowe | 95 |
| 20:04.37 | rhowe | Add to that the non-raw files.. :) |
| 20:08.39 | wethrin | :) |
| 20:09.07 | rhowe | OK, I'm gone |
| 20:09.13 | wethrin | where? |
| 20:09.19 | wethrin | I hope you're drinking! |
| 20:10.10 | rhowe | homeWhere there si a bottle of wine, but don' tthink I should open it tonightopen it next week if I have a meal at homedamn ssh lag |
| 20:10.23 | rhowe | um.. that made little sense |
| 20:10.24 | wethrin | Mmm. Wine |
| 20:10.27 | rhowe | I'm not drinking honest |
| 20:10.30 | wethrin | Suure |
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| 22:18.45 | rhowe | 'Something is engraved here on the headstone. You read: "Made in Taiwan".' |
| 22:18.48 | rhowe | I love nethack :) |
| 22:20.35 | wethrin | heh |