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04:02.44Leedsbloody fscking auto-expiring passwords
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06:26.34morsing'morning
07:17.45new2unixmoin all
07:36.02Leedsooh, slack 10.2 happened on Tuesday
07:36.47Leedsmorning all :-)
08:18.51morsingwarning: restriction `reject_unauthenticated_sender_login_mismatch' ignored
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08:37.01morsingSteveC, a frequent visiter!
08:37.12morsingHow are you?
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08:37.31morsingkbsingh!
08:37.38kbsinghmorsing!
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08:52.46Copehello
08:54.49morsingCope!
09:01.30kbsinghhey Cope
09:19.21wethrinUrghl
09:32.27rhowe"As part of our current Broadband speed increase programme, we are delighted to be able to inform you that your line has been successfully upgraded to 2Mbps!"
09:32.40rhowe(and a 50G monthly cap has been imposed)#
09:32.46rhoweWhich they don't tell you in that email
09:34.14wethrinHateful people!
09:34.18wethrin50GB is unreasonable
09:34.44morsingHow can anyone ever use 50GB?
09:34.59wethrinmorsing: Easily
09:35.06wethrinDownload a few things via bittorrent
09:37.01rhowewethrin: I think it's unmonitored midnight-8am or something like that
09:37.13rhowewethrin: So a couple of cron jobs should see it through
09:37.35wethrinAhha. Yes $friend had the same issue
09:41.10morsing<PROTECTED>
09:41.32wethrinHeh. My machine is up 13 days 14:35
09:42.15wethrinCope!
09:42.21wethrinSteal me some racking kit for a Netra T1
09:42.24Copehi morsing, kbsingh etc
09:42.30Copewethrin: hehe
09:42.34wethrinOh, and it really doesn't have any 9-pin connectors on the back
09:42.40Copeno
09:42.44Copeof course not
09:43.12wethrinYou and your dodgy connectors you were trying to flog :)
09:43.31CopeNo... you just got them back to front!
09:43.41Copesilly billy
09:43.46wethrinThe Cyclades doesn't have any 9-pin connectors either
09:44.16wethrinOooooh. Cheap Netra on eBay - USD 100 for machine with 512MB
09:44.30wethrinAnd 24x CD
09:44.35Copegroovy
09:44.37gregjwethrin: where where :-)
09:45.02wethringregj: Go to ebay, search for 'netra t1 rack' - only one result
09:45.08wethrinUSD 100 is Buy It Now
09:46.16gregjI need some blade machine with 4-6 blades for 400-500 $ or less
09:46.27wethrinHaha
09:46.48gregjyeah, I know it's a joke
09:46.52wethrin:-)
09:47.14gregjI need cheap compilation farm
09:47.25wethrinGet some cast-off machines
09:51.47wethrinAsk your local Uni :)
09:51.58morsingwethrin: Do you want to put money on who's can stay up the longest?
09:52.49wethrinNo :) Because at some point I'm going to have to run mine off to fiddle the memory, and also rack it properly
09:52.59wethrinThat and I may have to reboot soon with an updated kernel
09:54.15wethrinSo uptime may be slightly meaningless as the computer can be running all the time while the kernel isn't
09:54.24gregjwethrin: they don't give away anything in these woods
09:54.32gregjit's not like in uk
09:54.40wethrinBah
09:54.47*** join/#gllug cup (n=alex@netvoya-adsl.demon.co.uk)
09:54.51cupmorning
09:55.21cupquick question, how can I delete files by date, say over a week old?
09:55.42wethrinman find
09:55.54wethrinTell it to find files older than a certain date
09:56.01wethrinAnd then do a | xargs rm
09:56.30cupcheers
09:56.53morsingwethrin: Have you got monitoring running?
09:57.15wethrinwhat monitoring?
09:57.18wethrinnp
09:58.06wethrinI'm not monitoring anything ATM
10:24.23morsingwethrin: exonetric monitoring.
10:24.41wethrinThe bandwidth monitoring is running, but that's about it
10:24.54wethrinWhat other monitoring are you talking about?
10:43.39morsinghttps://www.exonetric.com/console/sc/colo0021/mon
10:43.55morsingSorry, substitute colo0021 for yours
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10:45.44stephanbVoiP nat router, port forwarding, aaaaaargh !
10:46.46SteveCHeh, Guardian digital is free until the 26th: http://digital.guardian.co.uk/
10:47.34Leedswell, I'm staying here a few days longer
10:47.55stephanbLeeds: before going back to Afghanistan ?
10:48.42Leedsstephanb: what?
10:49.49stephanbLeeds: yes i remember talking to u some time ago and you were in an exotic country
10:50.12LeedsI'm in Sri Lanka now, heading back to Hong Kong next weekend :-)
10:51.37stephanbLeeds: ah that's it
10:51.57Leedsboth exotic?
10:52.27stephanbwell, for me they are.
10:55.05LeedsHong Kong is fun, Sri Lanka is a bit shabby and boring
10:55.59stephanbwhat ru doing there? conencting their cotton mills on a LAN
10:56.26stephanbso the VP can VPN onto the server and count how many sq feet of cotton the plant has produced ?
10:56.37Leedsnah, not cotton mills - it's a bra factory
10:56.45wethrinmorsing: Works for me
10:56.54Leedsbut apart from that, yes, something like that
10:56.56stephanbwoooooooo
10:57.18Leedsno, there are no models around the factory...
10:57.33stephanband the bras are assembled by robots...
10:58.05Leedsnope
10:58.22stephanband the same way you wood see a Pirelli calendar in a garage,...
10:58.45stephanbthere are posters of classic british motorbikes on the walls :-)
10:59.29Leedsactually, the calendar has pictures of large industrial printing presses on it :-)
11:01.19stephanbi wasn't that wrong...
11:01.55Leedsnope
11:02.04morsingwethrin: What?!
11:02.17wethrinWhat?
11:03.48wethrinHmm. I've been locked out. Grr.
11:03.57stephanbso, none of u hathe delight to play with gnomemeeting or h.323 behind a nat router then ???
11:04.15stephanbs/hathe/has had the/
11:04.47LeedsI've happily used SIP from behind at least 2 levels of NAT
11:05.53wethrinmorsing: Oh. It works now
11:09.22stephanbLeeds: what sip application have u used on linux ?
11:10.32wethrinmorsing: I've not set up Monitoring from the console
11:10.37wethrin(but the console works otherwise)
11:12.59Leedsstephanb: linphone
11:19.23rhoweLeeds: What's the box you have running openwrt?
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11:24.23Leedsrhowe: asus wl500g-deluxe
11:24.27Leedscost me...
11:24.31Leedsibot change 670 hkd to gbp
11:32.01rhoweLeeds: What does the 'deluxe' get you/
11:32.54Leedsmore memory, faster processor, 2 usb2 ports, IIRC...
11:33.15Leedsopenwrt wiki has a very good table listing the specs of all the devices they support
11:34.35Leedshttp://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
11:35.00Leedsnewer processor - running at the same speed
11:35.13Leedsno, I'm wrong... faster processor
11:40.03rhoweYeah, looking - ta :)
11:41.53stephanbcu guys l8r... lunchtime
11:42.14*** part/#gllug stephanb (n=stef@dsl-88-110-199-194.access.as9105.com)
11:49.53Leedshmm... O2 are planning to collect -41.something GBP from me by the end of the month...
12:04.14Leedsand openvpn is rather easy to use, although I'm not sure how much point there is in tunnelling it over ssh :-)
12:16.18morsingLeeds>?
12:19.03Leedsmorsing: ?
12:21.54Leedsah, scp over openvpn over ssh :-)
12:23.36morsingHow are you?
12:23.39morsing~seen mozrat
12:23.43ibotmozrat is currently on #gllug (1d 15h 22m 36s).  Has said a total of 145 messages.  Is idling for 21h 49m 58s
12:23.58Leedsmorsing: assuming you're asking about the vpn stuff, I plan to setup a tunnel between the two sites, Hong Kong and Sri Lanka, and openvpn seems like a sensible way of doing it... but at the moment, the only connection I have into either network is ssh into HK, so I'm forwarding the relevent port and running the vpn over it, just to test it
12:24.04LeedsI'm pretty well... you?
12:26.07morsingLeeds: Crap as always. Why are there no jobs this time of year?
12:27.26Leedsare you needing or just wanting?
12:31.17mozratmorsing
12:31.20mozratjust got here
12:31.32mozratand guys - I've discovered the IT con of the year
12:31.44mozratwent to an office
12:31.44morsingLeeds: Wanting
12:31.47mozratIT Guy was away
12:31.56mozratbooted into Linux - got a DHCP address all good
12:32.11mozratVPN didn't work... rebooted into Windows to use correct VPN client
12:32.16mozratno DHCP address
12:32.17mozrathmmm
12:32.21mozratphoned IT guy
12:32.33mozratoh yes - we only have 5 IP address on DHCP the rest are static
12:32.41mozratoh.. ok. why is that
12:32.57mozratthe guy that installed DHCP for us only gave us a 5 address licence
12:33.02mozrat......
12:33.08Leedsugh...
12:33.10Leedsargh...
12:33.12Leedssplutter...
12:33.13mozratI want to see the paper licence
12:33.20mozratI licence you the use of one IP address
12:33.25mozratplease pay me money for some more
12:33.30LeedsI want to know how much a 192.168 address costs to license
12:34.04mozratno idea
12:34.20mozratbut if you are ripping someone off you'd do it for at least £10 an address
12:34.24mozratI sold him another 5
12:34.27mozrat(j)
12:34.35Leedsyeah, 50 quid for 5 seems like a fair price
12:36.05mozratthe guy admitted it was a pain to have to keep manually setting the address for visitors
12:37.22Leedsthat sort of thing just pisses me off
12:37.37Leedsparticularly when we know there is a better alternative
12:37.56mozratI didn't actually set him straight on it
12:38.03mozratit was a bad mobile phone connection
12:38.06mozratI'll mail him
12:38.49mozratMMmm,. that was nice soup
12:53.17morsingmozrat: Thanks for your help yesterday
12:53.25morsingLeeds: So do you have one for me?
12:54.17JAVgood afternoon
12:57.25Leedsmorsing: how is your sewing?
13:48.27mozratmorsing: no probs
14:01.48Leedshometime... have a good afternoon, all
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18:34.23rhowe"Thank you for registering for the OpenPower Project kick-off event at the London Planetarium. Your entrance ticket has been reserved in your name. You can pick it up at the OpenPower Project Welcome Desk right before the start. Please remember you must bring work identification to the event. Party on"
18:34.28rhowewoo :)
19:05.15wethrinw00t?
19:16.46rhoweI didn't see IBM mention anything about free food and drink from IBM though, only from John Southern
19:16.51rhoweStill, I won't eat before going.. :)
19:19.38wethrinhm
19:19.46wethrinIs there free booze?
19:19.57rhoweno idea
19:20.23wethrinFree booze++
19:20.31wethrinI got some free booze today from our college bar manager
19:20.37rhoweheh
19:20.43wethrinNew guy
19:33.37new2unixdid somebody call?
19:35.10wethrinNo :)
19:42.29mozratGood evening
20:15.00rhowewhee, photo of the gf from last weekend - http://www.siksai.co.uk/gallery/album07/crw_0530_xiaoping
20:16.42mozrat:)
20:34.42mozrathandy!
20:34.55mozrathttp://downloadstatusbar.mozdev.org/
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21:07.45mozrate-b-b-e-y-e-s!!
21:09.17mozratz-0-0-... bah
21:09.18mozrathello
21:09.32z00daxhey mozrat
21:09.37mozrathey
21:20.12z00daxif anyone is around the Harbour Exchange, Canary Warf area Friday evening - drop in at Spinnaker's for a drink.
21:20.21wethrinz00dax: Post to Gllug Social
21:20.57z00daxwethrin, right - doing so now.
21:21.02wethringood good
21:21.12wethrinmozrat: Only because you never make it!
21:21.19mozratwith the talk about low attendances on gllug-admin
21:21.21z00daxevil social events are the kinds that most of us life for
21:21.34mozratit would make more sense to post that to the main mailing list
21:21.38wethrinBut it serves different purposes
21:21.44mozratwethrin: you make an excellent point
21:22.10wethrinGllug meetings are traditionally technical followed by Social. Gllug-Social is Lonix with less organisation
21:22.14mozratit does serve a purpose but if attendances are low it might boost things if the social things weren't hidden on -social
21:22.40wethrinSome thing have been announced onto the main list
21:22.46wethrinSuch as zach's leaving
21:22.49mozrattrue
21:23.14mozratJust thinking that there are more people who might go to -social things that might not know about them
21:23.25mozratthe membership is less on -social I imagine
21:23.28wethrinIn which case, an announcement should be remade about the list :)
21:23.36wethrinThere are about 70 members on Social
21:23.41wethrin10% of whom turn up
21:23.42mozratreally?
21:23.44wethrinYeah
21:23.45mozratwow
21:24.04mozratwhats the membership of the main list now?
21:25.05wethrin85 members on Social, in fact
21:25.22wethrin533 on Gllug
21:25.24mozratI think you should reannounce the social list
21:25.31mozrat533 is what I thought
21:25.32wethrin(some may be duplicates)
21:25.39mozratwell not *exactly* that number
21:25.43mozratbut 500 odd
21:25.49wethrin500 very odd :)
21:25.59rhoweWHOAH
21:26.09mozratyes *looks.at.George*
21:26.12rhoweI JUST SAW A MOUSE RUN INTO THE SERVER ROOM
21:26.13wethrin:)
21:26.19mozratgeddit!!!!
21:26.19wethrinJump on a chair!
21:26.30mozratSet the Cat (5) after it
21:26.39wethrin*groan*
21:26.43mozrat*bow*
21:26.47wethrinSo someone who posts more to Gllug than I do can announce it :-)
21:27.09wethrinRight
21:27.13wethrinrhowe: you've been volunteered
21:27.56mozratrhowe - announce to the mailing list that z00dax will buy any members of the main mailing list a beer on Friday and see of 533 people turn up
21:28.05mozrats/of/if
21:28.05wethrinThey won't
21:28.09wethrinI won't be there
21:28.37z00dax... only to find z00dax not there
21:28.54wethrin:)
21:29.12mozratWolves LUG videoed their meeting the other night and posted the file
21:29.20z00daxaparenly I am not subscribed, so going through the motions of subscription
21:29.43mozratz00dax: Have you ever posted to the main list?
21:29.56rhowez00dax: What am I posting?
21:29.57wethrinAhha
21:30.08z00daxmozrat, i am not sure :)
21:30.09wethrinrhowe: You're posting to the main list announcing the Gllug Social list. Well, re-announcing it
21:30.17rhowewethrin: Oh right
21:30.25rhoweWell, let z00dax post first
21:30.27wethrinWe volunteered you while you were standing on a chair
21:30.39mozratand whilst you are at it big up the Python Study group that I can't keep afloat
21:31.02rhoweThen I'll post to gllug saying "oi, reminder for those who like beer and food, gllug-social exists and it tends to carry things such as the following: <insert z00dax email>"
21:31.55rhowemozrat: Actually I grabbed my camera and headed for said server room, but couldn't find it
21:32.15mozratit's probably gnawing fibre cables etc as we speak
21:32.43z00daxHeadlines on Friday morninig " Rhowe seen flashing a mouse "
21:32.49rhoweYeah, if it is, we're screwed :)
21:32.57rhoweNo redundant fibre loop on the fibrechannel
21:33.06rhowehm... no redundant anything really
21:33.53wethrinrhowe: Good good. Point them to http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/social
21:33.59mozrattsk your network lacks even the most basic anti-mouse protection
21:34.58rhowemozrat: Yeah
21:36.10mozratI believe my network is protected by any rodent up to and including guinea pigs
21:37.34mozratwow
21:37.35rhoweyour network is protected by rodents?
21:37.37rhoweI just saw a mouse run along our wall, and into the server room.
21:37.37rhoweThis is not a good thing!
21:37.37rhowe-- Russell Howe russell_howe@wreckage.org
21:37.38JAVa real firewall?
21:37.45rhoweThat was the email I just sent to our office manager
21:38.13mozratjust got an email from our helpdesk software with the title "Request 100000 Initial"
21:39.18mozratif you are interested our hundreth thousandth call is.... some Exchange server uses in Berkely Heights, NYC not being able to send to hotmail.com
21:41.35rhoweheh
21:47.55mozratrhowe you work for quite a large company then
21:48.19rhowemozrat: Oh yeah, huge
21:48.45mozratrhowe: any IT jobs going in your Dubai office? :)
21:48.55wethrinmozrat: You may need SPF records to talk to hotmail
21:49.03rhowemozrat: Hm.. doubt it
21:49.09rhowemozrat: Most of those offices are just 1 or 2 guys
21:49.22mozratrhowe: shame
21:49.30mozratwethrin: normally missing PTR records
21:49.48mozrator a firewall change where someone only updated the A record and not the PTR
21:49.59wethrinAh
21:50.13rhowemozrat: Though there may be a job-related announcement from me on the gllug list in the next 6 months or so I guess
21:50.31mozratrhowe: how is your New Orleans office?
21:50.51mozratapart from wet
21:52.03rhowemozrat: No idea
21:52.38mozrat*nods*
21:53.10rhoweNobody's sent an email around to let us know (although that's hardly suprising)
21:55.28rhoweWonder where I can get food
21:55.33wethrinMcDonald's
21:55.39rhoweAt 11?
21:55.45wethrinOr race to Vinopolis
21:55.47rhoweThere is one on the way home
21:55.56rhoweheh, no, not Vinopolis
21:56.05wethrinOr cornish pasty stand at the station?
21:56.14wethrinThe one at Marylebone is open until about the last train
21:57.18mozratthere is one in Paddington station as well - very tasty
21:57.30mozratWest Cornwall Pasty Company
21:57.35mozratPork and Apple
21:57.47mozratand then you can get a Apple and Raspberry
21:57.53wethrin:-)
21:57.57wethrinAnd Kings X
22:00.17rhowethis is London bridge
22:00.20rhoweEverywhere shuts early
22:00.59z00daxwethrin, still waiting for my confirm email to come through to me ( w.r.t subscription )
22:03.18wethrinAhh. Just give me your email address and I'll subscribe you
22:03.39mozratFor anyone with UK Gold I suggest watching the end of "Friday night with Johnathan Ross"
22:03.45wethrinhm
22:03.54mozratHar Mar Superstar - gives hope to any balding overweight nerds
22:04.05mozratand Tarantino is on now as well
22:05.32mozratOOoh, and Uma Thurman is on as well
22:05.37mozratwatch it!
22:06.11wethrinheh
22:06.17wethrinI have no UK GOld
22:06.18z00daxwethrin, mail-lists@karan.org
22:08.03mozratz00dax: If I setup planet.gllug.org.uk as suggested some time ago would you have your blog syndicated there?
22:08.19z00daxmozrat, go for it :)
22:08.28z00daxwe can all use some google foo
22:08.59mozratyes
22:09.49mozratplus wethrins blog.. Tues Sep 13th: Blogs suck; Weds Sep 14th: Blogs suck; Thurs Sep 15th: Blogs suck
22:09.51z00daxplanet.gllug.org.uk is trying to sell me DSL :(
22:09.58mozratshould be interesting reading
22:10.01z00daxlol
22:10.11mozratz00dax: still in discussion stage I think
22:10.18mozratjason_ukfsn hosts the DNS
22:10.54mozratz00dax: can you send me a face?
22:11.32z00dax<PROTECTED>
22:11.40wethrinz00dax: Done
22:16.39z00daxyou run bytemark ?
22:18.43mozratI have a bytemark virtual server yes
22:18.49z00daxah right...
22:19.03mozratI don't run it if thats what you meant :)
22:19.19mozratbut that would be cool
22:19.21z00daxI remember speaking to someone @ bytemark  a few years back - and the guy told me to get something elsewhere :)
22:19.38mozratreally? I haven't had too many quibbles with them
22:19.54mozratI went for the cheap option and it has memory swap issues now and again
22:20.14mozratbut I wouldn't expect a physical server with 64MB RAM to do too much
22:20.24mozratmozrat01:/opt# uptime
22:20.24mozrat<PROTECTED>
22:20.29mozratuptime isn't too bad
22:20.30z00daxI wanted something funky, and cheap - i think he worked it out as not being worth their effort to do something custom for the kinda money on offer
22:26.56mozratthey are cheap IMO
22:30.10Copei see
22:30.30Copebytemark?
22:30.43mozrathello Cope
22:30.45Cope<PROTECTED>
22:30.51Copebeen very happy with them
22:30.55mozratme too
22:31.16mozratCope have you ever wiped your rootfs image?
22:31.16Copedoes everything I need - I don't make massive demands, and they're very good value
22:31.30mozratI've asked for support a few times and they are responsive
22:31.35Copemmmhmm
22:31.55Copematthew seems a fine fellow
22:31.58mozratin fact when I asked the guy if I could apt-get dist-upgrade to testing (sarge) he offered to do it for me
22:32.11Copeand can't complain about debian stable - always rock solid
22:32.35mozratCope - are you running Woody or Sarge on Bytemark?
22:32.40Cope64M of ram is a bit low, and occasionally (occassionally) other folk on the box make things a bit unresponsive, but generally been very happy.
22:32.45Copemozrat: sarge
22:32.49mozratcool
22:32.57mozratI need to know the name of the rootfs image
22:33.00mozrathmm
22:33.01Copehrm
22:33.15Copebrb - a bit more wine left in the bottle
22:33.21mozratI can see kernel image names there - I wonder if that is them
22:33.36mozrat<mozrat> kernel
22:33.37mozratListing kernels, currently selected marked with [*]
22:33.37mozrat[*] Stable (currently linux-2.4.26-bytemark-uml-20040706-1)
22:33.37mozrat<PROTECTED>
22:33.37mozrat<PROTECTED>
22:33.39mozrat<PROTECTED>
22:33.44mozratfor example - I think that is them
22:34.19mozratso I can get a new machine running 2.6.12.4 with the rootfs command
22:34.25mozratbrb
22:34.26CopeLinux vm.wibbleworld.org.uk 2.4.26-bytemark-uml-20040706-1 #1 Tue Jul 6 09:37:31 BST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
22:35.05Copethere's nothing in 2.6 I need
22:35.29Copebut bear in mind I've run 2.2 for a long time, and only recently moved to 2.4 on my 'production' machines
22:36.47mozratgoing to find food
22:36.50mozratbbiab
22:38.18Copeok
22:41.31wethrinwould wibbleworld contain lots of jelly?
22:45.00Copeyeah, I reckon so
22:47.26mozratCope, against whom?
22:47.28mozratWm?
22:47.31Copeheh
22:47.34Copeno - fics
22:47.38mozratahh
22:47.43mozratI had a fics server at work once
22:47.52mozratit was quite heavily used
22:49.57mozratalso Bytemark support pages are very good
22:58.26mozratHar Mar Superstar++
23:01.58mozratFrom Wikipedia.... "A genuinely talented musician, Har Mar Superstar is a character who patterns himself after porn star Ron Jeremy; overweight, nearly nude seemingly obsessed with own sexual prowess."
23:03.11wethrinFinally!
23:06.52mozratFTPing my stuff up and away from Bytemark is taking longer than I thought
23:06.59mozratso I'll reimage tomorrow
23:07.00mozratnn all
23:09.52wethrinnn
23:12.56z00daxis it wise to post a mobile number for people to get in touch ?
23:13.28rhowez00dax: If you don't mind your number being known publicly
23:13.36rhowez00dax: People often do post mobile numbers
23:14.13wethrinIt's best to
23:14.34wethrinUnless lots of people already know your number
23:14.37rhoweAFAIK, gllug-social has public archives
23:14.41z00daxconsidering I've never met anyone from gllug before, it might be kinda wierd hooking up. I could just ask everyone to come dressed as Linus and carry their pet pengiuns with them for easy identification
23:14.56rhowez00dax: Just so you know, I won't be able to make it
23:15.03rhowez00dax: Will be on a train to Manchester
23:15.05wethrinrhowe: I can probably turn that off if I can be arsed
23:15.27rhowewethrin: no point really
23:15.30wethrinz00dax: You can always ask for confirmation if anyone else would turn up
23:15.32wethrinNah
23:15.32rhowewethrin: May as well leave it on
23:15.43wethrinYes. I was going to
23:15.51rhowewethrin: Oh, do you have any weird hardware/OS combinations? :)
23:15.56z00daxwethrin, yeah - i'll do that, email people my number if they confirm via email that they are going to be there
23:16.03rhowewethrin: A friend has written his own version of netcat and is looking for testers
23:19.30wethrinrhowe: You know I do
23:19.38wethrinBut not with me
23:20.20rhowewethrin: OK, well give me a shout if you fancy watching it break
23:20.45rhowewethrin: Currently it's breaking quite well on my dual celeron with latest GCC from Debian unstable
23:20.53wethrinha
23:20.55rhowewethrin: So we don't need your services just yet :)
23:20.57wethrinWhat's wrong with just netcat?
23:21.12rhoweno iode
23:21.15rhoweno idea :)
23:23.24wethrinAh
23:29.29rhoweIn fact.. it's breaking in ways I don't understand :)
23:29.35rhoweI suspect it's a threading thing
23:30.49wethrinah

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