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06:59.22Leedsafternoon morsing
06:59.29morsingEvening
07:01.45morsingUse `dselect' or 'aptitude' for user-friendly package management.
07:01.53morsingHaha! That's a joke right?
07:08.35morsingLeeds: What did you have for lunch?
07:11.54Leedsnot had lunch yet
07:12.08Leedswhat did you have for breakfast? :-)
07:12.41Leedsgoing to lunch now...
07:13.29morsingLeeds: Homemade bread with crunchy peanut butter
07:33.00morsinghttp://www.nationalbusinessawards.com/categories/05/1.htm
07:34.57morsingLeeds?
07:50.18morsingAhh... reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname
07:50.20morsing!!!
07:51.52mozratGood Morning
07:51.57morsing'morning
07:52.10mozratpeanut butter+++++ btw
07:52.16morsingMmm... beer
08:11.41morsingibot wake wethrin
08:11.45ibotwethrin: GOOD MORNING!!!
08:37.11Leedsback from lunch
08:37.26mozratif a server cannot talk to a printer for 8 hours IT DELETES THE PRINTER
08:37.57Leedssurely you mean disables, right?
08:38.10mozratno - deletes, vanishes, disappears
08:38.13mozratgone
08:38.18mozratwhere printer go?
08:38.22mozratprinter gone?
08:38.55Leedsduh
08:38.56mozrathttp://support.microsoft.com/?id=246906
08:39.20Leedsmorsing: sounds like a nice breakfast :-)
08:40.17Leedshttp://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2005016279916.gif lol
08:40.39morsingLeeds: What is your comment on my link?
08:50.22Copeanyone got experience of using weblogic purely as a webserver?
08:50.51Leedsmorsing: I am just now following your link
08:51.07Leedshttp://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_10240.html
08:51.55Leedsmorsing: as a Yorkshireman, I wish ASDA the best of luck
08:59.19morsingLeeds: You mean you're amarican?
08:59.40Leedsmorsing: not walmart, asda
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09:06.45Copeno
09:06.45mozratand so, as I was just saying *thats* why I think Ubuntu is much better than Debian
09:06.51mozratany questions?
09:07.02SlayerXPmorning
09:07.06mozrateep
09:07.06Copehi SlayerXP
09:07.31SlayerXPmozrat:   "that's"
09:07.41mozratSlayerXP: :)
09:07.43mozrat<< troll
09:07.46CopeSlayerXP: nazi
09:07.53Cope</godwin>
09:08.07mozratHow is .no SlayerXP, still enjoying it?
09:08.18SlayerXPit's fantastic here
09:08.22Copesandwich lady is here!
09:08.29Copeanyone want any?
09:08.33SlayerXPgetting on with renovating the house
09:08.44mozratSlayerXP: what are you doing for work?
09:08.49SlayerXPby the middle of next week we should have three rooms completely completed
09:09.32SlayerXPmozrat: nothing right now.  but i have a hosting company in the works.
09:09.32Leedsafternoon SlayerXP
09:09.43SlayerXPword.
09:17.22morsingLeeds: ASDA is amarican
09:18.01Leedsmorsing: are we talking about the same ASDA?  big supermarket chain, from Leeds, used to be called ASsociated Dairies?
09:20.10morsingLeeds: YEs
09:20.14mozratahhhh, that was entertaining. Winding up coldcallers
09:20.20mozratIn a way I wish I had more of them
09:21.03SlayerXPi have two strategies
09:21.13SlayerXP1)  "Can I put you on hold for just a moment?"
09:21.14Leedsmorsing: so, as I said - I support ASDA, not walmart
09:21.17SlayerXP*go shopping*
09:21.41SlayerXP2) As 1) but with some Cannibal Corpse
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09:24.22mozratz00singh!
09:25.09SlayerXPanyway, time for me to get some home work done
09:25.11SlayerXPlater
09:25.19kbsinghmozrat: hey
09:25.31kbsinghhome work... at 10:25 am... hummmmmm
09:25.48Leedsit's a long weekend here this week
09:26.00mozratI think he meant renovating his house, but I'm not sure
09:26.24LeedsI don't have to come to work tomorrow!
09:26.44mozratdo you normally on a Saturday?
09:26.50Leedsin Sri Lanka, yes
09:26.58mozratSun-Mon weekend
09:27.04Leedsnope
09:27.06LeedsSun weekend
09:27.09mozratSun weekend?
09:27.11mozratewh
09:27.18kbsinghah right - that kinda home work
09:27.33mozratthe whole country or just the factory you are in?
09:27.50kbsinghheh, 6 day work weeks - i remember those
09:28.00kbsinghbut do you work to 6:00pm or 3;30pm every day ?
09:28.10Leedsthe work week is 5 days, but there is a certain amount of overtime allowed - which effectively means people do 1 day of overtime most weeks
09:28.55Leedsnot everyone works every week - it depends on where there is a need for overtime... and they do get paid overtime rates
09:29.13kbsinghright... its a money making scam then :)
09:31.04Leedsnot really
09:31.17kbsingh( just j/k )
09:32.47Leedsah, online banking... just paid a phone bill in Hong Kong :-)
09:33.07kbsinghhopefully using your own funds
09:33.43kbsinghI paid my council tax the other day here in the UK, and was rather pleased to see that HSBC didnt take the money from my account :)
09:34.26Leedsyup, all of $11
09:34.41Leedsfucking council tax, which I'm still paying
09:35.16ErwinI think there's a 12-month exemption if your flat is uninhabitable. Want us to take care of that?
09:35.56Leedsit's still furnished, therefore still fully charged... except that I'm still, sneakily, getting the single-resident discount
09:36.14Leedsin theory, AFAIK, a residence with one person living in it is cheaper than one with no-one living in it
09:36.36wethrinmorsing: WHAT?
09:36.40wethrinmorning all
09:36.48Leedsafternoon wethrin
09:36.52kbsinghiirc its 40% for an empty place and 20% for single occupancy
09:36.56kbsinghhey wethrin
09:37.04wethrinhiho
09:37.49Leedskbsingh: except it's not empty if it's furnished, or so they told me - and the lonely person discount is 25%
09:38.04kbsinghLeeds: right
09:38.47Leedsso an empty furnished place is more expensive than a furnished place with one resident, in theory
09:38.56rhoweLeeds: 25% off if you're the only person in the dwelling who qualifies to pay council tax
09:39.21Leedsrhowe: and if there's no-one living there?
09:39.36ErwinHey, you can be exempt if the dwelling is "waiting to be occupied by a minister of religion"
09:39.45morsingLeeds: You cannot support one without the other
09:39.51rhoweLeeds: No idea. Good luck getting through to the council tax dept.
09:39.55morsingwethrin: Hey, you're up ;-)
09:39.56Leedsmorsing: yes, I can
09:39.59wethrinyes
09:40.01wethrinand showered
09:40.09rhoweLeeds: I'm about GBP100-200 down because I just couldn't contact them
09:40.09Leedsrhowe: actually, I found Barnet to be easy to call, and quite helpful
09:40.52morsingLeeds: You have been service well!
09:41.00morsings/service/serviced/
09:42.37Leedsmorsing: huh???
09:45.36mozratwhen you wipe your virtual machine at bytemark you get the following message...
09:45.38mozrat: WARNING! This command will wipe your disc and start it from scratch.
09:45.39mozratYou should be sure that any data you want to keep is backed up elsewhere
09:45.39mozratbecause you will not be able to get it back after this operation.
09:45.39mozratIf you are very sure this is what you want to do, type the following
09:45.39mozratsentence exactly as printed, including punctuation, then press enter.
09:45.41mozratMy username is mozrat and I promise not to cry over spilt milk.
09:45.55Leedslol
09:46.05rhoweLeeds: The council tax section?
09:46.12rhoweLeeds: I never once got through
09:46.16wethrin:-)
09:47.48Leedsrhowe: I called once, got straight through, IIRC
09:47.58rhoweLeeds: hmm
09:48.09rhoweLeeds: Oh well, this is going back about 8 months now, so it's probably a bit late :)
09:48.45ErwinI event sent email to mine.
09:48.50Erwineven, even.
09:50.45morsing12:31 < Leeds> fucking council tax, which I'm still paying
09:55.10Leedsthanks :-)
09:56.38rhoweI sent an email and got an automated response which said they'd try to repky within 2 weeks
09:56.52Leedsugh
09:57.09rhoweThey replied by posting me the coucil tax booklet I already had
09:59.32Leedsugh ugh
10:01.28rhowe"Pugs is an implementation of Perl 6, written in Haskell"
10:01.33rhowejust... WHY>?
10:01.43mozratheh
10:01.45wethrinBECAUSE
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10:29.29George`CGIbleh.
10:29.56kbsinghI used to know a girl from SriLanka
10:30.15kbsinghquite a girl she was too,
10:30.51wethrinlarge girl?
10:33.52kbsinghwethrin: large in all the right place, I believe she went onto become a Fashion Model in the US
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10:53.54wethrin:-)
11:25.54mozrathttp://www.bash.org/?244321 :)
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11:36.35stephenhehe
11:44.39mozratafternoon rhowe
11:44.46mozratdid you find food last night?
11:55.47morsingFilesystem size changed to 524288
12:09.54rhowemorsing: No.. I went to McDonald's
12:10.07rhowes/mozrat/morsing/g
12:10.16rhoweuh.. wrong way round :)
12:10.45rhowe450MiB of photos :)
12:11.30morsingrhowe: What?!
12:13.30morsingrhowe: How are you?
12:17.49mozratnelson funeral flotilla? whats that then
12:25.46morsingMmm... smokeping
12:36.46morsing<PROTECTED>
12:36.48morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi
12:46.06mozratIt must know you are running it
12:46.07mozrat:)
12:46.36morsingThanks!
12:46.41morsing;-)
12:46.41mozrat(j)
12:46.47morsingj?
12:46.54mozratjoke
12:47.06morsingDo you know why the graphs are missing?
12:47.17rhowehmm
12:47.21mozratwhat does smokeping do for those of us who have so many new tickets opened they can't stop to read about it?
12:47.26rhoweit was too overcast... my camera struggled
12:47.53morsingmozrat: monitors connectivity
13:10.02morsingWoohoo: http://www.morsing.cc/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=World.Europe.UK.UCL
13:10.09morsingMan, that was cryptic!
13:11.50morsingmozrat: What do you think?
13:17.09morsingmozrat?
13:27.25mozrathello
13:27.26mozratsorry
13:27.30mozratI minimised you all
13:28.16mozrathttp://www.morsing.cc/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=World.Europe.UK.Camelot would look pretty with some data in
13:29.51morsingWell, I've just discovered the next weird problem. I can't ping anything from my new hosted server?!?!?
13:29.58morsingwethrin: Did you know this?
13:30.04rhowehmmm
13:30.17rhoweApparently I can get 24Mbit down, 1Mbit up ADSL2+ with Be
13:30.20rhowe£24/mo
13:30.24rhowe(probably + VAT)
13:30.26morsingBe?
13:30.46rhowehttp://www.bethere.co.uk/
13:30.53morsingHang-on?
13:37.02JAVafternoon!
13:38.19mozrathey JAV
13:45.45kbsinghrhowe: do you know anyone who already has this service ?
13:47.15morsingmozrat: Any better?
13:47.16morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=World.USA.Google
13:52.35mozrat*click*
13:52.48mozratyes!
13:58.14rhowekbsingh: No
13:58.53kbsinghrhowe: it might be interesting trying to find somoene who actually has one of those lines.
14:00.49rhowekbsingh: Yeah.. I think they brought their first customer online yesterday, at 18.5Mbit/s
14:00.56rhowekbsingh: At least, according to samknows.com
14:01.28kbsinghbe kinda good to see those sort of speeds @ hme
14:01.32kbsingh@home even
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15:13.12morsingSteveC!
15:16.30mozrathullo SteveC
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15:46.38wethrinHello
15:48.51mozratHello wethrin
15:49.01wethrinHi
15:50.13mozratI seem to have found the 10 most funny and 10 most offensive religious jokes on the internet... please no fatwas or holy crusades if you don't like what you see reading these jokes http://www.shipoffools.com/Features/2005/laugh_judgment_results.html
15:51.30wethrinhmmm
16:00.09rhowehm..
16:00.30wethrinThey all suck
16:00.35wethrinDon't go for 3
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16:02.06wethrinThey suck more
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16:20.46wethrinNot if rhowe likes texting :)
16:23.47rhowenew2unix: Vodafone flat out refused to submit a proposal
16:23.57rhowenew2unix: We'll probably stick with O2 or move back to Orange
16:24.01rhoweI think they'll say O2
16:24.39wethrinHa ha!
16:25.02wethrinWhy did Vodafone do that?
16:30.46new2unixhome time. adios all.
16:30.54wethrinnight!
16:30.56wethrinor wheteve
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17:21.10Cope:)#
17:21.53wethrinCope: Why aren't you at the pub?
17:23.30Copebecause I am at home
17:23.39wethrinFie
17:23.47wethrinPubs are good places to be
17:23.50Copebut I have wine
17:23.58wethrinMmm. Whine.
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19:17.41ebbeyes:D
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19:57.09mozratgood evening!
20:09.25wethrinGO TO THE PUB
20:11.44mozratsame to you sir
20:11.51wethrinHrm. pub's far away
20:12.36mozrattrue
20:13.52wethrinMm
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20:22.07mozratnot going to get a zen internet connection anytime soon looking at xander flapping
20:26.04wethrinheh
20:37.33ErwinZen WFM.
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21:26.11JAVhello!
21:26.46mozrathey JAV
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21:33.53George`CGIMOOO
21:34.40wethrinha
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