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07:10.42mozratGood Morning
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07:40.23mozratHmmm - it's very quiet here
07:40.28mozratno parts, no joins
07:40.45mozratI feel like the kid who woke up to find his entire family went on holiday without him
08:11.01mozratOK - seriously stop it
08:11.04mozratI know you are all there
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08:13.44highburymorning
08:14.33mozratw00
08:14.34mozrathello
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08:33.00mozratmoin Leeds
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08:33.26kbsinghhola!
08:36.20Leedsafternoon all
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08:41.56morsing'morning
08:42.14mozrathello
08:53.57morsingMmm... Streamleaders
09:04.08morsingHow are you mozrat?
09:05.53mozratGood thanks
09:07.41highburywe woke to the sound of glass cracking, we didn't see anybody, but it was a bit scary being woken up at 2:30 , seeing flames
09:08.48mozratabout to go into a training session on some SMTP filtering appliance we bought
09:09.03morsingmozrat: What's it called?
09:09.40mozratIronmail
09:15.27kbsinghIron rusts, in a wet country like the UK unless its well protected.
09:18.58rhoweSuggest that they galvanise it
09:22.05ufomozrat: alive? ;)
09:32.17wethrinMorning
09:51.40Copemmm
09:53.09wethrinI need it cashed so I *know* how little money I have!
09:53.37wethrinI appear to already have spent over £1500 in paying stuff off
09:54.54wethrinOh well. :)
09:55.19wethrinAt least Barclays won't be charging me interest on overdraft. Interest-free bits++
10:10.03wethrincard tarting?
10:13.22Leedsheh
10:15.18morsingmorning wethrin
10:15.55wethrinhi
10:16.02wethrinLeeds: Make Dan cash the cheque!
10:18.49LeedsI can't make him do anything
10:19.01wethrinBah!
10:19.34highburywethrin: details at http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/creditcards
10:20.00highburyi.e. going from one 0% balance transfer to another :-/
10:20.08wethrinhighbury: Ahhh .Yes
10:20.15Leedshighbury: the question is how many times you can get away with it
10:20.41wethrinhighbury: But, really, I want one to start with that gives me 0% on cash
10:20.54Leeds0% on cash on a c/c?  is that possible?
10:20.57highburyuntil your credit record gets affected, its getting a bit harder
10:21.09wethrinLeeds: Yes.......just about
10:21.22highburyyou can do a super-transfer, ie get them to write you a cheque
10:21.47highburysome of them are starting to charge a 2% fee however
10:22.05highburybut some will give 18months of 0% credit
10:22.22LeedsI got about 11 months off Barclaycard
10:22.35morsingbeer
10:23.16wethrinmorsing: Not yet!
10:25.05highburybtw, that site has other real useful stuff
10:25.39wethrinYeah. All of which require being far more organised than I am :-)
10:25.49wethrinAnd I don't pay any utility bills
10:28.46Leedsibot change 166 ils to gbp
10:30.56highburyi'd prefer a non sticky keyboard
10:31.31highburylol
10:32.55Leedshuh? http://news.com.com/SCOs+mobile+service+to+talk+to+the+masses/2100-1039_3-5872611.html
10:35.34Copehttp://steve.com/any+reason+not+to+use+a+handy+url+shortener+such+as+tinyurl+so+as+not+to+spam+the+fuck+out+of+our+screens+with+massive+urls+like+this?1234567890.html
10:37.00Copealthough to be fair the url does give a clue as to what its about :-)
10:37.09Leedsthat's not a massive URL, most of it is in English...
10:37.18Copetrue
10:37.29Leedscall it a summary, with extraneous stuff prefixed and suffixed :-)
10:37.37Copeagreed :-)
10:38.04Leedswhile being a link to more information *at the same time* - thereby, in fact, *saving* screen space :-P
10:38.13Copemy hero!
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10:48.33formiHiya
10:52.01Leedsafternoon formi
10:52.24formistill all over the place?
10:52.37formiI mean travelling
10:53.17Leedsnot so much travelling as working in two places
10:54.04Copeooh formi
10:54.09Cope('dable)
10:55.10formiCope: all this time you have known me and you have just managed to come up with that! :-> eating is good for your braincells
10:55.33Leedsdo you dabble?
10:55.51formiLeeds: I babble
10:56.31formihas anybody seen pdr lately or was he eaten by a big cat?
10:58.09Leedsibot seen pdr
10:58.12ibotpdr <~pdr@213.86.35.150> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 54d 20h 6m 39s ago, saying: 'anyway, had enough of work for today, laterz'.
10:58.50Leedsmaybe he moved to Japan and didn't tell anyone... or maybe - more likely - he was planning some more travelling after his trip to Africa
10:58.50formiI was just wondering if he had "adjusted" his nick
10:59.51ErwinDo you owe him large amounts of money by any chance? If so, I'm pdr.
10:59.56Leedsnot that I'm aware of
11:00.45formiErwin: maybe a beer or two
11:01.16ErwinI'm Brian, and so
11:01.18Erwin's my wife
11:01.59Leedsbut he could be my brother...
11:02.45stephen3~4~
11:03.09stephen~
11:03.44stephen~
11:03.49stephen~~~
11:04.03stephen~
11:04.04Copeaha
11:04.06Coperhowe!
11:04.09rhoweOK, mobile phone contract analysis pretty much done
11:04.22rhowehullo Steve
11:04.24Leedsum...
11:04.25Coperhowe: did you receive confirmation re: thursday? passwd etc?
11:05.05rhoweCope: After registering on the website, they said (on the website) that I had my tickets and should collect them from the front desk
11:05.09rhoweCope: I think I got an email too
11:05.26Leeds<PROTECTED>
11:05.33rhoweCope: hm.. no, no email
11:05.41LeedsA British computer chat program, called George, has won an international prize for holding the most convincingly human-like conversation.
11:05.46Copelol!
11:05.51rhowehaha
11:06.19wethrinThat can't be true. So all you need is a bot that says "$last_person sucks"?
11:06.38Leedswethrin: you'd need it to kill/eat people as well
11:06.55wethrinGood point
11:09.34stephenoops, shit, apologies for spam
11:10.13rhowestephen: Are you going to make it worthwhile by telling us what you were doing? :)
11:10.21rhowestephen: Curious minds want to know
11:12.04stephenfiddling around attempting to make one of my computers work, whilst leaving the keyboard of the other in an easily-knockable position, bad idea, I know
11:16.37rhoweShould never try to make computers work, they don't like iot
12:12.43highburymy computer workers (hard-drives) went on strike - had a one-out all-out walk-out
12:24.39Leedshometime...
13:19.12formifor those interested I've just found our PDR is "touring europe" and currently in Munich for some *fest!
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13:20.18morsing_*sigh*
13:22.16rhoweformi: Yeah, I sent him an SMS and he replied from some German country IIRC
13:23.11ErwinSeptemberfest?
13:25.53formifrom the horse's mouth: I'm currently touring around Europe, back in a few weeks, now in
13:25.56formiMunich for Oktoberfest!  There are some photos at my mate's site:
13:26.19formiprobably he forgot all about ntp
13:29.48formidoes anybody here do basic javascript?
13:30.11ErwinYes?
13:31.18formihave a look at this "email riddler script" http://www.dynamicdrive.com/emailriddler/#highlight
13:32.03Copeerm... larting formi
13:32.37formi<PROTECTED>
13:32.50formithat statement seems a bit inaccurate to me
13:33.16ErwinWell, it just stores the email address as a sequence of ASCII integer values.
13:33.35ErwinWhich might be good enough for most harvesting bots that just search for foo@bar.com in pages
13:33.44formifrom there to encryption there is a long way
13:34.10formiErwin: any other suggestions?
13:34.15ErwinFor what?
13:34.43formidisplaying email address on web sites
13:35.55Erwinuse name-suffix@domain.com, auto-block -suffix after a while if it gets too much spam.
13:36.21ErwinI think there are sites that let you set up such a discardable email address easily, too
13:36.34Erwinspamgourmet.com
13:37.16ErwinBut I don't know the state in web page email harvesters. maybe they are fooled by simple JS like that
13:42.58formimy problem is the marketing dept might have a fit if i tell them to use discardable addresses
13:43.38formieven though it would be nice to get rid of their funny ideas with such a simple method
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13:45.18Erwinemail form then. with a captcha. and requirement to put in your full mailing address and respond to a survey. that will keep most people away
14:00.37formihttp://formi.sdf-eu.org/ has been updated with it
14:11.28morsing_Mmm...
14:23.36mozrathttpd server logs tied into Google maps  http://mapstats.blogflux.com/3097.html
14:25.09Copestat64("/local/home/nelsost1/.ssh/identity", 0xFFBEF520) Err#2 ENOENT
14:25.12Copearr
14:25.15Copesorry
14:25.19Copefat fingers
14:39.30mozratarr? You still on talk like a pirate day Cope?
15:19.06Copehehe
16:05.34morsing_hscroot@mlmgp006:~> lssyscfg -F      
16:09.19mozrathscroot@mlmgp006:~> rm -rf /
16:20.16morsing_How do I map a data file in qmail?
16:20.48morsing_Like rcpthosts
16:20.53morsing_Or something?
16:20.57morsing_wethrin?
16:21.05morsing_Hello?
16:21.34morsing_ibot wake wethrin
16:21.35ibotwethrin: GOOD MORNING!!!
16:21.45wethrinWHAT?
16:22.08morsing_How do I map a data file in qmail?
16:23.09wethrinhow do you mean?
16:23.19morsing_Like postmap in postfix
16:23.31morsing_qmap /etc/rcpthosts > /etc/somefile.dbs
16:23.36morsing_?!
16:23.45wethrinErr....I'm still not sure what you're getting at
16:24.22wethrinqmail configs are all plain-text
16:24.46morsing_Apparently not. We need to "compile" this config file
16:25.40wethrinDo you have more than 1000 domains?
16:25.43morsing_No
16:26.05wethrinWhat exactly do you need to do?
16:26.10wethrinThat's probably the best place to start :)
16:26.37morsing_We've added a client allowed to relay emails to the Internet but it doesn't work
16:26.48morsing_We've been told we need to "compile" the file
16:27.11ErwinWhy are you using qmail anyway? The author is a maniac.
16:27.15wethrinUm. I think the file you need to drop an IP address into is /var/qmail/control/relays
16:28.01morsing_Ok, it's a command called "tcprules"
16:28.06morsing_It's working now
16:28.09wethrinright
16:29.02wethrinokay. No, you need to set the environment variable RELAYCLIENT
16:38.00morsing_IS R12 and CFC exactly the same?
16:45.12wethrin?
16:45.19wethrin7
16:45.24wethrin7? oops
16:52.08morsing_7?
16:53.43wethrinOops
16:53.46wethrinI mishit keys
16:53.54morsing_So is it?
16:54.07wethrinWhat's R12? What's CFC?
16:54.23morsing_What?!?
16:54.30Blaptocloroflourocarbons
16:54.31Blaptoor something
16:54.34morsing_CFC is a refrigiant that is now illigal
16:54.35Blaptothey live in fridges.
16:54.54morsing_It appears that R12 is NOT illegal
16:55.09morsing_Are they compatible or identical?
16:55.16wethrinOh. You are.
16:55.42morsing_Mmm... silliness
16:55.43wethrinR12 = Dicholorodifluoromethane
16:55.56wethrinSo it is a CFC
16:56.00morsing_So not quite the same then
16:56.06morsing_So what's R134a then?
16:56.07BlaptoI want to use SSH through a strict firewall that only allows port 80 and HTTP/SSL data through.  Anybody got any recommendations?
16:56.15wethrinRefrigerant
16:56.17BlaptoOh, and I can't install binaries.
16:56.32wethrinTetrafluoroethane-1,1,1,2
16:56.45wethrinBlapto: Proxy only?
16:56.55wethrinOr free traffic?
16:57.06wethrinNormally, just get sshd to listen on port 443
16:57.08morsing_wethrin: So not CFC?
16:57.19wethrinThere's no chlorine, so no
16:57.20Blaptowethrin, I could do that, but it's a webserver too.
16:57.28wethrinBlapto: Only one IP address?
16:57.31BlaptoI might just get another IP for the server and listen of 443 and see what happens.
16:57.34wethrinYeah
16:57.48BlaptoI've a horrible feeling the firewall only lets HTTP traffic through as well
16:58.03wethrinWhy's the firewall so arsey?
16:58.04BlaptoA man walks into a bar and asks for some adenosine triphosphate.
16:58.12wethrinAlternatively, you can use HTTP tunnelling
16:58.20wethrinCertainly, sir, the barman replies. That'll be 80p
16:58.20BlaptoThe barman says (read this outloud) that will be ATP!
16:58.33morsing_What?!
16:58.43BlaptoAdenosine triphosphate = ATP, sounds like 80p.
16:58.57morsing_Hmm...
16:59.01BlaptoWhat's the difference between and an-ion and a cat-ion?
16:59.07BlaptoCat-ions are pussytive!
16:59.26BlaptoWhere do you get mercury from?  HG Wells!
16:59.53wethrinBlapto: Stoppit now. That's enough bad jokes for this afternoon
17:00.32BlaptoWhy do Heisenbergs operators live in the city?  They don't commute!
17:01.11BlaptoHelp, help, someone's stolen my electrons!
17:01.13BlaptoAre you sure?
17:01.16BlaptoI'm positive!
17:02.01BlaptoI think that's all I can think of right now.
17:03.27BlaptoOh, wait.  Two cats are on a roof.  Which falls off first?
17:03.32BlaptoThe one with the smaller mu.
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17:04.37wethrinBlapto: Stoppit now. You've shown you're eminently suitable for Durham
17:04.39wethrinhi AndrewBlack
17:06.06Blaptowethrin, shall I phone the admissions tutor and start spouting all that, whilst climbing a hill, drinking whisky and playing go?
17:06.39wethrinYes, but not while phoning the admissions tutor
17:07.11BlaptoOh, ok.
17:07.54wethrinDon't forget talking about computers. Which involves drinking beer.
17:09.02Blaptoyou can't drink beer and whisky.
17:09.10wethrinYes you can.
17:09.22wethrinKeep them in separate glasses
17:10.09BlaptoCould certainly be interesting
17:33.26highburyunless its a "Depth Charge" variant
17:35.11wethrinWhich would be wrong
17:35.18wethrinAs each drink should be enjoyed separately
17:36.29BlaptoAnybody an expert in httpd.conf?
17:36.55BlaptoI have 8 IPs on one machine, I want apache to listen on all but one IPs, and to bind to all ports specified in the ports directive
17:37.14wethrinYou have to Listen on each of the 7 IPs
17:37.20wethrinYou can't do an all-but-one
17:37.52wethrinListen 1.2.3.4:80
17:37.56wethrinListen 1.2.3.5:80
17:37.57wethrinetc.
17:38.27BlaptoYeah, and then specify 443 as well to allow SSH
17:38.29Blaptogrr
17:38.54BlaptoI'm going to feed
17:38.55Blaptobye
18:01.57wethrinheh
18:02.01wethrinYup
18:24.14rhoweBlapto: SSH? I think you mean SSL :)
18:25.46wethrinrhowe: No, he wants to run an ssh daemon on port 443
18:27.24rhoweCope: I got a confirmation email from IBM this evening :)
18:27.55new2unixrhowe: Planitorium to eat Linux?
18:29.26highburyrhowe: did we miss something?
18:30.08wethrinhighbury: Free food and booze courtesy of IBM
18:30.17wethrinI think John Southern posted to Gllug about it
18:31.43highburyis there a url, or is it too late?
18:31.50wethrinNot sure
18:33.57wethrinThere are archives :)
18:36.30rhowenew2unix: Yes
18:37.04rhowe"drinks and canape's, then more drinks and english & italian food"
18:42.39rhowebut hmm.. someone very hawt :P
18:47.03wethrin;-)
18:47.19rhowehm... Jia or boss
18:47.23rhowehot or not..
18:49.51rhoweI just wonder how much distraction it'd cause... http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/me+jia.jpg
18:52.27BlaptoWhat's this about free food?
18:55.32BlaptoAh, I'm hardly a coder.
18:59.59rhoweme neither :P
19:00.06rhoweBut... free food and drink? :)
19:00.39BlaptoI'd stick out somewhat
19:01.03BlaptoI'd be sat there staring at an ssh terminal
19:01.06Blaptothinking
19:01.07Blaptothinking
19:01.08Blaptothinking
19:01.20Blaptoand then typing a recursive loop and timing the output with a stopwatch or something.
19:02.57Blaptoor compiling Hello, World! in 2 or 3 languages.
19:07.58BlaptoOr seeing if it will actually open OpenOffice in less than 5 minutes.
19:15.58psnldown boy
19:16.45wethrinOh. You're still here :-P
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19:19.42psnlI really should go
19:20.32wethrinWhen come back, bring PIE!
19:20.42wethrinEh. We have lots of foreign people here, psnl
19:27.59BlaptoDO...THEY...SPEAK...ENGLISH
19:35.58wethrinI don't know. Them thar northerners speak funny like
19:36.24BlaptoLoad and slow
19:36.49wethrin:)
19:38.18Blaptooff to make some phone calls
19:38.18Blaptobye
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19:43.20wethrinpsnl: Nah, you're one of them foreigners :)
19:43.59wethrinNortherner here is anyone living between Zone 6 and Watford Gap. Further north than that's a strange country :)
19:52.15mozratGood Evening
19:53.27wethrin'ello
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19:57.19new2unixthe first 1min 31secs seem quite good.
19:57.36wethrinIs that the opening credits?
19:57.51new2unixwethrin: heh
19:57.53ErwinIt goes downhill. Then again, I saw it while flying to US
19:58.12wethrinAh
20:01.51mozratcan I get an opinion on http://www.beerandspeech.org/uploads/Images/General/planetgllug.png for planet.gllug.org.uk
20:02.09mozratapart from the fact it is a little large (in filesize)
20:02.22wethrinLooks nice
20:02.40new2unixSaturn-ish
20:02.50new2unixnot that i've been there before.
20:03.02wethrinmozrat: "London skies at noon"? :)
20:03.20mozrathttp://www.powerpointart.com/powerpoint-backgrounds-pages/free-powerpoint-backgrounds/images/Free-Backgrounds-20.jpg
20:03.32mozratewh, powerpoint but it is a freely available image
20:04.12mozratoh, maybe it isn't free... anyway
20:05.18JAVmozrat: I like it
20:05.32mozratthanks all - I'll pass it onto Dean
20:07.58new2unixi like Rev Rumble's post on planet.gllug about his glasses. i feel his pain. hah
20:08.21mozratJAV, don't take this to mean anything... that is the first time I've ever seen you say more than "Hi" :)
20:09.22mozratoh tell a lie (looking at his logs)
20:09.23mozratbut
20:09.29mozrat*flood*
20:09.32mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:14:47 < JAV> heh
20:09.32mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:21:41 < JAV> evening
20:09.32mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:13:08 < JAV> good afternoon
20:09.32mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:12:01 < JAV> hello
20:09.34mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:13:54 < JAV> good afternoon
20:09.37mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:22:37 < JAV> a real firewall?
20:09.39mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:14:37 < JAV> afternoon!
20:09.41wethrinmozrat: He's a friendly chap!
20:09.42mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:14:38 < mozrat> hey JAV
20:09.44mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:22:26 < JAV> hello!
20:09.47mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:22:26 < mozrat> hey JAV
20:09.49mozrat#gllug Freenode0905.log:13:54 < JAV> afternoon
20:09.52mozrat:0
20:09.54mozrat:) (even)
20:09.55JAVheh, I was waiting for a response like that :D
20:09.57mozratwethrin: of course!
20:10.08mozratJAV is a marvellous chap, just on the quiet side
20:10.17JAVheh
20:10.48wethrin:-)
20:12.51JAVit's not easy to start a conversation when you haven't meet any of you (or any english-speaking people)
20:14.01JAVand the usual topic here are local things, not linux things :D
20:14.14mozratJAV - where are you from then?
20:14.41JAVanyway, I should visit you soon
20:14.47JAVmozrat: spain
20:15.02mozratJAV, ahh, I didn't know that
20:15.38JAVI'm also not much confident about my english :)
20:15.46mozratSounds OK to me
20:16.29JAVthat's because you read it, not listen it
20:18.07mozrattrue
20:18.54mozratMy entire Spanish language is learnt from Fawlty Towers so you are up on me
20:19.40mozrathttp://images.google.com/images?q=fawlty+towers for JAV
20:19.44z00daxmaybe we should all draw up voice profiles, for festival, and share them out. Xchat+Festival = IRC you hear.
20:20.10z00daxI wonder what a good ol Vim V/s Emacs flamefest would sound like
20:24.17wethrinbanging the same old drum
20:25.42JAVmozrat: I have heard about it, mainly for John Cleese. I saw one chapter hoping to find python's humour
20:26.56rhowe"20.09.05 21:25 ya i think i will com"
20:27.32JAVhttp://www.linuxworldexpo.co.uk/ ---> £200 ???
20:29.47JAVquite expensive, isn't it?
20:30.28ErwinAnd the dinner is 125
20:30.33mozrat£200 for what?
20:31.02wethrinJAV: That's for the expensive part of the conference
20:31.02wethrinThe show is free
20:31.29JAVfree is more cheap, yes
20:31.54wethrinYes.
20:32.48wethrinBut the show sucks
20:36.20JAVwhat would be a good time to visit gllugers?
20:36.39JAVfosdem? :)
20:37.48mozratJAV, you can come to my house for a cup of tea if you like to visit
20:38.45wethrinJAV: Come to a Gllug meeting
20:38.47wethrinOr FOSDEM would work too
20:38.48JAVthanks!
20:42.33wethrinBut only a small group will be going. And I'll be representing Durham Compsoc, rather than Gllug
20:43.22JAVI was in fosdem ¿2002? iirc
20:43.45new2unixor EuroBSD Con, Basel, Switzerland.
20:44.05wethrinheh
20:45.15new2unixWethrin: You still coming?
20:46.20wethrinNope
20:46.21wethrinsorry
20:46.32new2unixStop pretending to be a poor student neck deep in debt. Go on.
20:46.46new2unix:)
20:47.01wethrinno :-P
20:47.05wethrinnot a good time
20:50.35wethrinEmail Social
20:50.37wethrinOr the main mailing list
20:53.45BlaptoHooray for poor timing!
20:54.21BlaptoMe:  I'm considering getting a tattoo.
20:54.31Blapto*someone else in the house picks up the phone*
20:54.41BlaptoMe: Perhaps a BT logo on my cock.
20:54.52Blapto(It's for youuuuu!)
20:55.13wethrinhehehe
20:55.52BlaptoI don't think I'd get a tattoo there
20:55.57BlaptoIt sounds painful
21:13.34new2unixsent as suggested.
21:15.16wethrinrar
21:16.03new2unixarchive/compression rar?
21:16.59wethrinYes
21:19.26new2unix7zip for win32 handles rar archives quite nicely. rar-2.0x for nix is also very good.
22:19.07mozratGood Night friends
22:20.09JAVgn morsing
22:20.11JAVoopps
22:20.17JAVgn mozrat :D
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