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05:48.49 | new2unix | moin all |
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07:58.40 | mozrat | Good morning |
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08:08.54 | mozrat | hey clyphox |
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08:37.26 | mozrat | Leeds! |
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08:54.32 | rhowe | $boss is booking time off to go to the linux expo |
08:54.40 | Leeds | afternoon mozrat, all |
08:56.49 | kbsingh | hey guys |
08:57.09 | kbsingh | I am trying to get that ( linux expo ) covered as an 'official engagement' |
08:57.36 | mozrat | I may be going abroad on the first day and so will miss it :( |
08:57.42 | mozrat | which sucks |
08:58.03 | mozrat | Leeds, you don't have an RSS feed as far as I can tell |
08:58.16 | rhowe | I thought missing the linux expo was something to look forward to? :) |
09:03.11 | kbsingh | personally, with FUDcon the next day - I think the second day is going to be much more worth-the-effort |
09:10.27 | clyphox | Hey mozrat |
09:10.44 | clyphox | hmm I think I missed the expo again... |
09:10.49 | clyphox | ..again! lol |
09:11.02 | clyphox | how is everyone ? :) |
09:14.10 | Leeds | mozrat: http://www.priorityinversion.org/?flav=rss |
09:16.21 | Leeds | although it may not be the most useful rss feed going... |
09:20.23 | clyphox | the content was pretty interesting though :) |
09:21.37 | Leeds | thanks :-) |
09:24.20 | Leeds | mozrat: try http://priorityinversion.org/index.rss2 - a slightly more useful feed, I think |
09:25.57 | mozrat | Leeds: Are, k |
09:26.03 | mozrat | Ahh, k |
09:26.59 | mozrat | tomorrow I shall be mozrat-de apparently |
09:27.59 | Leeds | this time next week I should be Leeds-hk again |
09:28.46 | Leeds | for a while, this time, since we're about to hit major Jewish festival time |
09:29.26 | mozrat | will that be noticed in HK? |
09:29.51 | Leeds | what do you mean by noticed? |
09:40.55 | formi | Leeds: do you have a moment for a private? |
09:41.51 | Leeds | formi: sure |
09:42.48 | formi | I tried to open one with not much luck, could you start one? |
09:45.09 | Leeds | you don't see me? |
09:45.28 | formi | I saw the Hello! line but nothing else |
09:45.36 | Leeds | did you reply to my hello? |
09:45.42 | formi | yes i did |
09:45.51 | Leeds | strange |
09:46.09 | formi | just in case let me reconnect |
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09:47.48 | formi | Leeds: I am trying again |
09:50.43 | mozrat | Leeds, I was wondering if there were many Jewish celebrations in HK, or is it a family celebration thing |
09:50.55 | mozrat | i.e. is there much of a Jewish community there to celebrate it |
09:51.03 | Leeds | mozrat: sure, the community celebrates |
09:52.28 | Leeds | it's not a public thing in any way - there aren't enough Jews, and effectively no Chinese Jews, so it's not mainstream at all |
09:54.48 | clyphox | are the girls pretty? :) |
09:55.35 | clyphox | <this is an important factor to consider when picking destinations> |
09:56.17 | Leeds | yes, but... |
09:56.54 | clyphox | ..short :( ? |
09:57.21 | Leeds | that too :-) |
09:57.52 | Leeds | not many single Jewish girls around... |
10:01.10 | clyphox | yeah that kinda sucks |
10:01.47 | clyphox | lucky budhism isn't a religion hehe |
10:02.05 | Leeds | um, it sort of is |
10:02.27 | mozrat | quite a large one in fat |
10:02.29 | mozrat | fact |
10:03.00 | Leeds | it may not be a theistic religion |
10:04.47 | Leeds | and yes, in theory, you can be both Jewish and Buddhist at the same time... |
10:05.15 | clyphox | I'm half Jedi half Buddhist half asleep |
10:23.14 | wethrin | Hello |
10:23.30 | wethrin | formi: You're not registered with Nickserv, are you? |
10:24.26 | wethrin | Leeds: If you want messages from formi, I guess you need to tell nickserv you want to receive messages from unregistered users |
10:25.01 | Leeds | wethrin: he's registered, and we're talking |
10:25.09 | wethrin | ah |
10:25.47 | formi | I was |
10:26.08 | formi | i am a bloody registered user |
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10:27.54 | George`CGI | helllooooo |
10:28.00 | formi | 10:46 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Password accepted - you are now recognized |
10:29.05 | Leeds | okay, anyone know how kernel patching works nowadays? |
10:29.37 | Leeds | I've got 2.6.12.2 and I want to patch up to 2.6.14rc2 |
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10:39.51 | rhowe | Leeds: reverse patch-2.6.12.2, apply patch-2.6.13, then apply patch-2.6.14rc2 I guess |
10:40.05 | rhowe | Leeds: I would make a tarball after the 2nd step, personally |
10:42.09 | Leeds | hmm... I didn't patch to 2.6.12.2, I downloaded it directly... so I'll need to download the patches then? :-) |
10:44.18 | rhowe | Leeds: Yeah |
10:44.41 | rhowe | Leeds: ncftpget ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/v2.6/patch-2.6.12.2.bz2 |
10:44.46 | rhowe | maybe pub/linux/kernel/ I forget |
10:46.36 | Leeds | put a .in in there to get it locally... |
10:47.20 | Leeds | and what, there's something wrong with wget? |
10:49.49 | rhowe | I don't install wget on web servers which have PHP |
10:50.07 | Leeds | really? |
10:50.18 | rhowe | Yep |
10:50.28 | rhowe | Too many PHP exploits which depend on wget |
10:50.52 | Leeds | ah |
10:50.55 | rhowe | Apache in Debian has a really irritating dependency |
10:51.10 | Leeds | well, I tend to avoid installing/using php, on my own machines, anyway |
10:51.23 | rhowe | Pretty much all the shrinkwrapped exploits rely on using something like lynx or wget to download a rootkit-type thing |
10:51.40 | rhowe | Package: apache-common |
10:51.46 | Leeds | s/cause/symptom/ |
10:51.51 | rhowe | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libdb4.2, libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, perl (>= 5.8.4-2), mime-support, apache2-utils, sed (>= 4.0.5-1), ucf (>= 1.06), lynx | www-browser |
10:52.10 | Leeds | hmm... so the local networking folks want to replace the existing RH9 server with Fedora 4 |
10:52.12 | rhowe | Note the last dependency |
10:52.31 | Leeds | yes |
10:52.56 | Leeds | well... um... you may be aware that I don't personally pay that much attention to the dependencies on distro packages :-) |
10:53.18 | rhowe | Well you're a slackware person |
10:53.25 | rhowe | I'm suprised you even know what the word means :P |
10:54.54 | Leeds | it's what happens when you let a distro tell you want to do with your computer |
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11:07.49 | mozrat | eyup ufo |
11:07.55 | ufo | elo elo |
11:08.16 | kbsingh | Leeds: would RHEL / CentOS not make a better option than FC4 ? |
11:08.21 | mozrat | ufo, get a blog so we can add it to planet.gllug.org.uk |
11:09.01 | ufo | mozrat: I will, just after I'll finnish my thesis ;] |
11:09.29 | mozrat | which year will that be? :) |
11:09.58 | Leeds | kbsingh: yes, probably... but they'd charge for RHEL, and I think CentOS may be beyond them |
11:10.16 | Leeds | kbsingh: fuck it - Slackware would be a better option :-) |
11:13.56 | kbsingh | although it was to slackware that i lost my linux virginity |
11:14.14 | wethrin | Shovel RPM into Slackware |
11:14.23 | kbsingh | wethrin: i think someone tried this a while back |
11:14.30 | wethrin | Heh |
11:14.40 | kbsingh | maybe get slack .pkg support into smartpm.org and we're doe |
11:14.43 | kbsingh | s/doe/done |
11:14.44 | mozrat | kbsingh: Was she good? :) |
11:15.59 | kbsingh | mozrat: 'she' was on 40 odd 1.44MB FD's that I had to 'borrow' from school, beg a local prof. at the Univ to let me copy from his set |
11:16.09 | kbsingh | she took a while to come installed. |
11:16.22 | Cope | s/installed// |
11:16.41 | kbsingh | {-8 |
11:17.45 | Cope | the difference between debian and slackware is that Leeds doesn't mind being told what to do by *one* person, but distrusts a carefully organised team of people. |
11:18.35 | Cope | (the operation to remove my tongue from my cheek is scheduled for some time next month) |
11:18.37 | wethrin | Cope: Carefully organised? :-) |
11:18.56 | Cope | fanatically organised? |
11:20.47 | wethrin | fanatics-- |
11:25.53 | wethrin | lazy :-P |
11:25.58 | wethrin | I've been at work for 20 minutes already! |
11:27.52 | Blapto | You're both lazy! |
11:29.53 | AngelChild | but being lazy is so much less effort |
11:30.05 | Blapto | no answer to that really... |
11:30.12 | AngelChild | :D |
11:30.23 | Blapto | Bloody students, eh? |
11:31.00 | George | hrmm. |
11:31.15 | George | DECAPITATION |
11:31.27 | George | AngelChild: you suck |
11:31.35 | George | wethrin: around? |
11:31.42 | Leeds | Cope: actually, you're pretty much right |
11:32.22 | wethrin | George: yo |
11:32.25 | Leeds | evening George |
11:32.44 | George | wethrin: do you think s/technological/technology/ for the first setence of my PS? |
11:32.58 | George | wethrin: that's what the head of computing services here at school said |
11:33.02 | wethrin | 'all things technology'? |
11:33.04 | George | yeah |
11:33.07 | wethrin | I don't like that |
11:33.08 | George | seems a bit tarded to me |
11:33.20 | wethrin | all things technology-related, maybe |
11:33.26 | wethrin | or all things related to technology |
11:33.45 | George | hrmm. |
11:33.46 | wethrin | but you can't have 'things' followed by a noun |
11:33.51 | George | yeah |
11:33.57 | wethrin | it needs to be followed by an adjective, as it's describing the 'things' |
11:34.09 | George | not a good idea to have a grammatical error in my first sentence :D |
11:34.28 | wethrin | Nope :) |
11:39.00 | George | :) |
11:40.03 | wethrin | "all things technology" is an accepted colloquialism, but isn't technically correct. And personal statements should avoid colloqs. |
11:41.37 | George | yes |
11:41.39 | George | I know :) |
11:42.03 | wethrin | tell your head of computing services he's wrong, then |
11:43.14 | George | I told him I didn't agree |
11:43.24 | wethrin | good |
11:43.37 | George | I'm not corrupting my PS |
11:44.17 | clyphox | who's to say corruption isn't just a natural state hehe |
11:44.40 | wethrin | Only to those who seek power |
11:44.53 | Blapto | Or who use hard drives. |
11:45.05 | wethrin | Yes. We should all use tapes |
11:45.15 | clyphox | OMG I should actually buy another drive now that u remind me lol |
11:45.56 | wethrin | :) |
11:46.03 | wethrin | RAID5 is only okay if one drive dies |
11:47.12 | Blapto | Clearly. I rsync all my vital data to a RAID 1 setup in another building. |
11:47.16 | Blapto | Another country even. |
11:47.23 | Blapto | Something would have to go very wrong. |
11:48.06 | wethrin | Good plan. But I bet you don't have 800GB of data to sync |
11:48.21 | Blapto | Yeah, that's true. |
11:48.40 | Blapto | In which case you'd want to install some fibre to another location as far away as possible :D. |
11:48.58 | wethrin | hehe |
11:49.01 | wethrin | Not so easy to do :) |
11:49.17 | Blapto | Actually... |
11:49.23 | Blapto | You could do it over line of site wireless. |
11:49.39 | Blapto | With some funky cantennas. |
11:50.11 | George | RAID-5 is nice |
11:50.16 | George | I've got a degraded array at the moment though |
11:50.50 | wethrin | You're degraded. Hehe ehheheheh hehehehe |
11:51.06 | George | md1 : active raid5 sdc2[1] sdb2[2] sda2[3] |
11:51.06 | George | <PROTECTED> |
11:51.11 | George | md0 : active raid5 sdc1[2] sdb1[1] sda1[0] |
11:51.11 | George | <PROTECTED> |
11:51.20 | wethrin | Get another disk |
11:51.26 | Blapto | I'v been degraded for years now :D |
11:51.31 | wethrin | We know |
11:52.49 | George | I need food. |
11:52.51 | George | lunch time! |
11:53.10 | George | hrmm, actually. |
11:53.15 | George | I'll wait a few minutes. |
11:53.16 | Blapto | Or do I mean depraved... I forget. |
11:53.33 | George | I had a ghastly oxbridge maths lesson this morning at 8am |
11:53.36 | George | silly hour in the morning. |
11:53.48 | wethrin | oxbridge maths? |
11:53.52 | George | yeah |
11:53.57 | wethrin | Is that different from normal maths? |
11:54.03 | George | yeah |
11:54.07 | George | interview survival ;P |
11:54.14 | wethrin | Is this one of the completely fucking useless things schools do to put people off applying? |
11:54.15 | George | then afterwards STEP preparation |
11:54.23 | George | actually, it's not useless |
11:54.25 | wethrin | Eww. STEPs suck donkey balls |
11:54.29 | George | we just work through really hard maths stuff :P |
11:54.44 | wethrin | We had mock "oxbridge interviews" set up by our school |
11:54.53 | George | nah, not interviews |
11:54.54 | wethrin | They were so completely and utterly fucking useless as to actually put people off applying |
11:55.04 | George | we just do advanced maths |
11:55.06 | George | beyond the syllabus |
11:55.09 | mozrat | George! |
11:55.23 | George | it's the dyslexic composer! |
11:55.31 | wethrin | The interviewer still had the notion of a hugely stuffy interview where you had to tell them why you chose the college |
11:55.40 | wethrin | FOR FUCK'S SAKE. You don't even *HAVE* to choose a college |
11:55.45 | George | :) |
11:55.58 | George | lol |
11:56.01 | George | I just hope I get in :( |
11:56.09 | George | my maths probably isn't up to scratch |
11:56.10 | wethrin | Don't think you should have a problem |
11:56.11 | mozrat | George: I think I ma dyslexic sometimes |
11:56.17 | mozrat | am |
11:56.18 | wethrin | George: They don't care that much |
11:56.19 | mozrat | :( |
11:56.24 | George | wethrin: huh? |
11:56.27 | George | mozrat: hehe |
11:56.29 | wethrin | They more look for people who they'd want to teach |
11:56.37 | George | wethrin: nobody would EVER want to teach me :) |
11:56.38 | mozrat | yay :D |
11:56.46 | wethrin | George: And therein lies your problem :-) |
11:56.47 | George | I'm screwed |
11:56.53 | George | :P |
11:56.57 | wethrin | They don't expect everyone to be genius mathematicians |
11:57.12 | wethrin | In fact, most schools won't put on these sorts of maths classes, so they're not going to be too bothered |
11:57.44 | George | yeah, but I'm genuinely crap at maths |
11:57.54 | wethrin | Cambridge is the only Uni that occasionally asks for STEP papers |
11:58.12 | George | heh |
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11:58.26 | George | everyone who gets an offer for maths has to do step generally |
11:58.32 | George | their standard offer is step |
11:58.33 | mozrat | yay for JAV |
11:58.56 | wethrin | This is another reason I didn't go to Cambridge :) |
11:59.05 | wethrin | (amongst many) |
11:59.17 | George | they say STEP is excellent preparation for the sort of maths you hit at university level |
12:00.23 | wethrin | Hm. And can I shout bullshit? :) |
12:00.36 | George | not on IRC :P |
12:00.38 | wethrin | They'll cover all the maths you'd cover at STEP in the first term |
12:03.02 | wethrin | schools themselves seem to be very out-of-touch with the Oxbridge entry procedures |
12:03.20 | wethrin | At least, my school was quite out of touch with the Oxford entries. And yours seems to be doing similar |
12:07.14 | George | I'd say a third of the teachers here are ex-Oxbridge |
12:07.25 | George | some subjects are right on track |
12:07.34 | George | CS is a nightmare because nobody ever really applies for it |
12:07.41 | George | as in, once every 5 years :) |
12:07.52 | wethrin | George: They may be, but they'd have gone many years ago |
12:08.01 | George | yes |
12:08.03 | wethrin | Things have changed since the 1960s! |
12:08.06 | George | harhar |
12:08.17 | George | my physics teacher was at cam during the late 90s |
12:08.23 | George | I think that's the most recent |
12:08.32 | George | he got a third |
12:08.34 | George | we keep mocking him |
12:08.52 | George | anyway, food time |
12:10.28 | Leeds | http://gizmonaut.net/bits/suspect.html |
12:10.31 | Leeds | he's a GLLUGer |
12:12.27 | wethrin | Heh. |
12:12.32 | Leeds | not heh |
12:12.55 | wethrin | oh... |
12:13.52 | wethrin | He is? |
12:13.53 | Leeds | worked at symbian, last time I met him... dunno if he's still there |
12:13.57 | wethrin | I don't recognise the name |
12:14.06 | Leeds | IIRC, he's French... |
12:14.17 | wethrin | I'd guess so as he said "from my workplace in Southwark" |
12:14.33 | Leeds | I have his phone number and email address in my phone book, sent to me over bluetooth in the basement of the pub, again IIRC |
12:14.51 | wethrin | Hm. There were a few French people at Symbian |
12:14.56 | wethrin | But the name's still not familiar |
12:15.48 | Leeds | I have a picture on my old phone, a sketch, which I think he used as a photo in his phone's business card... |
12:21.21 | wethrin | Hrmm... |
12:21.30 | wethrin | Seems a little screwed up |
12:29.14 | Leeds | wow, there's an http mirror of kernel.org in the Falkland Islands... |
12:29.25 | wethrin | yay? :) |
12:30.08 | Leeds | that's got to be a pretty high mirror:local_user ratio :-) |
12:31.16 | Leeds | then again, Gibraltar has 2 http, 2 ftp - probably the same 2 servers |
12:31.41 | Leeds | out of interest, which kernel comes with a current stable Debian? |
12:32.21 | wethrin | Err. if you asked me that 2 hours ago I could have told you :) |
12:32.26 | wethrin | It's a choice betwen a 2.4 and a 2.6 |
12:32.51 | Leeds | but since then your brain has been edited? |
12:33.06 | Leeds | wouldn't be anything as old as 2.4.26, I assume? |
12:33.30 | wethrin | It could be |
12:33.37 | wethrin | I can tell you tonight |
12:34.29 | Leeds | I'm sure I could find out before tomorrow morning, since I'm unlikely to be online 'tonight' UK time |
12:35.22 | wethrin | 2.6.12 |
12:35.34 | Leeds | my friend is trying to get an SATA RAID controller working on a 2.4.26 machine |
12:36.05 | wethrin | 2.4.27, maybe |
12:36.07 | Leeds | that's stable, or testing? |
12:36.12 | wethrin | sarge |
12:36.17 | wethrin | (stable) |
12:36.25 | stephen | Leeds: you get a choice between 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 iirc |
12:36.36 | wethrin | It works for me, using Promise TX4 |
12:37.43 | Leeds | he's got a 3ware |
12:38.05 | stephen | 3ware 7xxx and 8xxx cards are supported out of the box |
12:38.48 | Leeds | he says the device nodes aren't there |
12:39.14 | wethrin | ./MAKEDEV all |
12:39.15 | wethrin | ? |
12:39.33 | Leeds | ugh |
12:39.46 | wethrin | what? |
12:40.32 | Leeds | making random nodes |
12:41.08 | wethrin | Ah |
12:41.18 | wethrin | Well, maybe he needs to load the correct module |
12:41.43 | Leeds | he says the driver is loaded |
12:41.57 | wethrin | Doesn't it just show up as SCSI disks |
12:42.05 | wethrin | Does dmesg give anything useful? |
12:42.22 | Leeds | actually, he says it's installed, not loaded... just asked him to confirm that it's loaded as well :-) |
12:42.29 | wethrin | ahh |
12:43.58 | Leeds | to clarify... |
12:44.16 | Leeds | he didn't say anything about loaded or not - he just said installed... we are now trying to check if they are actually loaded |
12:44.22 | wethrin | lsmod IYF :) |
12:45.09 | George | I have been nourished |
12:45.09 | George | wooyay |
12:45.16 | Leeds | so is dmesg |
12:45.26 | wethrin | GNAAA. Just seen - "...I strongly encourage you to try installing FreeBSD instead of Linux on this laptop. It is very similar to Gentoo Linux, so if you are comfortable with that, you should have no problem switching to FreeBSD" |
12:45.34 | wethrin | George: You're a fat bastard :-P |
12:46.02 | George | hi. |
12:52.35 | George | wethrin: you know, you're fatter than me. |
12:52.40 | George | wethrin: just thought I'd let you know |
12:52.45 | wethrin | pah |
12:55.01 | George | :D |
13:08.50 | Leeds | hometime |
13:09.09 | new2unix | bye Leeds |
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13:13.39 | morsing | Hello |
13:15.45 | morsing | ~seen wethrin |
13:15.51 | ibot | wethrin is currently on #gllug (9d 3h 9m 57s) #classiccmp (9d 3h 9m 57s). Has said a total of 819 messages. Is idling for 23m 6s |
13:16.01 | wethrin | hello? |
13:16.04 | morsing | Hi :-) |
13:16.11 | wethrin | Hi |
13:16.23 | morsing | Anyone else here? |
13:16.31 | wethrin | there may or may not be |
13:16.38 | morsing | :-) |
13:16.49 | morsing | Hi jonmasters |
13:16.57 | wethrin | heh |
13:19.57 | new2unix | hi |
13:21.46 | JAV | hi! |
13:24.17 | morsing | Hi new2unix & JAV |
13:51.14 | rhowe | grr |
13:51.23 | rhowe | The Monument Exchange is having problems again |
13:51.28 | rhowe | Easynet SDSL is down |
13:51.41 | wethrin | Pah |
13:51.51 | wethrin | And you're using Sleazynet at work? |
13:52.14 | rhowe | yep |
13:52.16 | George | I want SDSL. |
13:52.30 | wethrin | Ha. So why're you on IRC if the intarweb's broken? |
13:52.38 | wethrin | George: You won't get that at Uni |
13:52.47 | George | if I'm at uni I don't need SDSL :P |
13:52.58 | wethrin | You can't really download porn, though |
13:53.05 | George | why would I want to? |
13:54.50 | wethrin | It's like TEH NAKED CHIXXX0RZ |
13:57.30 | George | I really couldn't care less |
13:58.24 | wethrin | pah |
13:59.57 | Blapto | Somebody check George for testicles. |
14:00.29 | wethrin | He doesn't have any balls. He's at a public school |
14:00.36 | Blapto | So am I... |
14:00.39 | Blapto | But I have |
14:00.44 | Blapto | At least 2! |
14:00.50 | wethrin | harrow? |
14:00.57 | Blapto | Ah, you have a point |
14:01.52 | George | Blapto: which school wouldst thou be at? |
14:02.05 | Blapto | city of london |
14:02.11 | George | boring. |
14:02.17 | George | that's not a public school |
14:02.19 | George | that's a private school |
14:02.31 | Blapto | define... |
14:02.44 | George | public schools are the schools listed in the public schools act of 1868 |
14:02.50 | George | I think that's the year anyway |
14:03.27 | George | http://www.answers.com/topic/public-schools-act-1868 |
14:04.48 | Blapto | feh |
14:04.53 | Blapto | same difference |
14:04.55 | George | NO |
14:04.58 | George | NO IT'S NOT |
14:05.07 | George | I AM AT PUBLIC SCHOOL; YOU ARE AT PRIVATE |
14:05.57 | Blapto | And the actual difference is... |
14:06.14 | George | we're amazing |
14:06.48 | Blapto | Yet you have no testicles. |
14:07.19 | George | that's irrelevant |
14:07.22 | George | I have dual 20" tfts |
14:07.42 | Blapto | But it's not. It's a hippopotamus. |
14:07.44 | wethrin | Blapto: He's making up for something there :) |
14:07.44 | mozrat | are they a testicle substitute now then? |
14:07.51 | George | mozrat: yeah |
14:07.56 | George | and 2820GB of disk space |
14:07.56 | George | mmmm |
14:08.02 | wethrin | "it's not an elephant. It's a hippopotamus" |
14:08.08 | Blapto | :D |
14:09.12 | George | hippos are cool. |
14:09.19 | wethrin | heh |
14:09.21 | Blapto | Yes, because they bathe in mud. |
14:09.31 | wethrin | I bet you listen to Tom Lehrer too |
14:09.32 | George | yes, and their etymology is cool |
14:09.41 | Blapto | wethrin, yup. |
14:10.12 | wethrin | heh |
14:10.19 | George | MOO. |
14:10.42 | wethrin | "All the world seems in tune on a spring afternoon...." |
14:10.52 | Blapto | And Bob Newhart? |
14:11.00 | wethrin | meh :) |
14:11.20 | George | SLEEP |
14:11.21 | George | BED |
14:11.22 | George | SLEEEEP |
14:11.35 | wethrin | lazy |
14:11.41 | mozrat | lazy bastardf |
14:11.53 | George | yes |
14:12.02 | Blapto | Oh god I've got to work. |
14:12.10 | wethrin | heh |
14:12.12 | Blapto | wethrin, when are you in London next? |
14:12.18 | wethrin | Blapto: 28th October |
14:12.19 | wethrin | (Friday) |
14:12.23 | wethrin | You on the Gllug social list? |
14:12.28 | George | Blapto: what year are you in? |
14:12.32 | Blapto | I don't subscribe. |
14:12.34 | Blapto | George, same as you |
14:12.36 | wethrin | Well you should :-P |
14:12.37 | George | bah |
14:12.41 | George | Blapto: applying where? |
14:12.43 | wethrin | Then you'd know which pub we'd be going to |
14:12.59 | Blapto | Imperial, Durham, York, x, x, x |
14:13.08 | George | not oxbridge? |
14:13.09 | wethrin | George: how did you get time off school to go to LWE? |
14:13.19 | George | wethrin: I say "let me go" |
14:13.21 | George | and they do |
14:13.24 | wethrin | Okay |
14:13.29 | wethrin | They don't care any more if you miss lessons? |
14:13.29 | Blapto | George, nope, I r thick. |
14:13.37 | George | what did you get in AS? |
14:13.39 | Blapto | wethrin, announce or discussion? |
14:13.40 | Blapto | BBBC |
14:13.55 | George | erk |
14:13.56 | wethrin | Blapto: Yes :) |
14:14.06 | wethrin | Mostly announce, maybe with a couple of messages of discussion tacked on |
14:14.07 | George | even wethrin did better than that |
14:14.14 | George | and he didn't even do AS! :D |
14:14.15 | wethrin | I never did AS. |
14:14.17 | wethrin | Actually, I lie |
14:14.21 | wethrin | I did do one AS |
14:14.27 | wethrin | But then I upgraded to a full A |
14:14.32 | George | wethrin: yes, but you did Advanced Supplementary |
14:14.41 | George | wethrin: this is Advanced Subsidiary! :P |
14:14.41 | wethrin | They were still referred to as AS |
14:14.47 | wethrin | Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
14:14.48 | George | yeah, I know |
14:14.48 | wethrin | Ewww |
14:14.49 | wethrin | Eww |
14:14.52 | George | my brother has one in Maths |
14:15.07 | George | I is clever, innit. |
14:15.15 | George | Blapto: what course btw? |
14:15.16 | wethrin | iss |
14:15.27 | Blapto | Comp sci. |
14:15.32 | Blapto | Wethrin, gizza clue. |
14:16.14 | George | I'm applying for CS/Maths at York |
14:16.14 | wethrin | Blapto: When I decide what pub, I'll let you know |
14:16.14 | wethrin | Blapto: http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/social |
14:16.15 | George | CS at Dur, Brist, Cam |
14:16.15 | George | CS/M at St Andrews |
14:16.15 | George | and... somewhere else whose name currently eludes me |
14:16.18 | wethrin | bath? |
14:16.21 | George | no |
14:16.26 | wethrin | heh |
14:16.46 | Blapto | Err, which months archives? |
14:16.54 | wethrin | Blapto: Eh? |
14:17.02 | wethrin | I've not posted about the 28th yet |
14:17.22 | Blapto | Ah |
14:17.22 | George | oh yea, warwick |
14:17.40 | wethrin | It'll probably be a central London pub. Possibly the Windmill |
14:17.42 | Blapto | [15:12] <wethrin> Then you'd know which pub we'd be going to |
14:17.45 | wethrin | Or maybe the Clachan |
14:17.50 | Blapto | Yeah, I understand now. |
14:17.54 | wethrin | Blapto: yes, you would know when I posted :) |
14:17.58 | Blapto | Go to the Founders Arms, it's easy for me to get there :D |
14:18.09 | wethrin | No :-P You missed the last few times we were there |
14:18.18 | Blapto | I know, I was busy. |
14:18.19 | George | wethrin: are you going to be at LWCE? |
14:18.20 | wethrin | And it'll be getting too cold to sit out |
14:18.22 | wethrin | George: No |
14:18.31 | George | wethrin: git. |
14:18.40 | wethrin | I have better things to do than to pander to mental masturbations of people who shouldn't be allowed out in public |
14:18.49 | George | wethrin: anyway, yeah, I normally just ask the head master if I can miss 3 days of school to go to LWCE |
14:18.56 | George | wethrin: it's not as if it screws my grades up :) |
14:19.25 | wethrin | true. It's hard not to get an A nowadays :-) |
14:19.37 | George | of course it isn't ;) |
14:19.41 | wethrin | Also, there's freshers' fair on here which I need to sit at stands at |
14:20.48 | George | bah. |
14:20.51 | George | useless bastard. |
14:22.14 | wethrin | Oi. I need people to join the whisky society |
14:22.22 | wethrin | morsing: Get a job in Durham! |
14:22.53 | George | isn't there an "e" in whiskey? |
14:23.05 | Blapto | Nope |
14:23.13 | George | you can tell I'm a teetotaller. |
14:23.26 | wethrin | George: Sometimes |
14:23.35 | wethrin | If it's Irish, or USian |
14:23.52 | Blapto | Irish whiskey is sometimes whisky. |
14:23.55 | wethrin | It shouldn't be |
14:23.58 | wethrin | :) |
14:24.05 | wethrin | Oh, and join the SMWS! |
14:24.14 | wethrin | There's even a branch in London |
14:24.17 | Blapto | SMWS? |
14:24.20 | wethrin | www.smws.com |
14:24.23 | Blapto | Scotch malt? |
14:24.24 | wethrin | Scotch Malt Whisky Society |
14:24.37 | Blapto | I'm afraid I'd meet people there. |
14:24.46 | wethrin | meet people? |
14:24.47 | Blapto | I met my girlfriend's dad at some beer festival. |
14:25.05 | wethrin | Yes.... |
14:25.08 | wethrin | Why's this bad? |
14:25.17 | Blapto | We aren't meant to see each other drunk. |
14:25.23 | Blapto | We both said things that shouldn't be said. |
14:25.24 | wethrin | As long as you don't say :-) |
14:25.49 | mozrat | Blapto: You didn't talk about your girlfriends great ass did you? |
14:25.53 | Blapto | Nothing really awkward was sais. |
14:25.54 | Blapto | said. |
14:26.06 | wethrin | Join the SMWS anyway |
14:26.13 | wethrin | It's a lovely venue in London |
14:26.16 | Blapto | But he asked questions he had always wanted to ask, and I answered frankly. |
14:26.18 | wethrin | And also in Edinburgh |
14:26.30 | wethrin | "Do you shag my daughter?" :) |
14:26.53 | Blapto | wethrin, not far from the truth... |
14:27.01 | wethrin | oh dear |
14:27.16 | wethrin | But join anyway. You get to have lots of lovely single casks |
14:27.30 | Blapto | But he still likes me, and her mum likes me so there's no problem. |
14:27.35 | wethrin | oh good |
14:28.07 | wethrin | So join and quote my membership number |
14:28.14 | Blapto | Do you get booze or something? |
14:28.44 | wethrin | Yes |
14:28.47 | Blapto | Fair enough |
14:28.56 | wethrin | You can get a bottle of single cask with your membership |
14:29.02 | wethrin | Then you have to buy some :) |
14:29.16 | Blapto | They want my money! |
14:31.19 | wethrin | Yes |
14:31.28 | wethrin | but it's good for you to be a member |
14:31.47 | clyphox | hmm beer |
14:31.56 | wethrin | clyphox: Join the SMWS |
14:32.09 | wethrin | :-) |
14:32.18 | Blapto | I'm subbed to social. |
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14:32.33 | wethrin | Okay. I get a £10 voucher if other people refer to me when they subscribe |
14:32.36 | wethrin | good man! |
14:34.05 | George | for what? |
14:34.23 | mozrat | subscribe to -social??? wth? |
14:34.49 | wethrin | George: For subscribing to social |
14:34.53 | wethrin | mozrat: What? |
14:34.55 | George | wethrin: harhar |
14:34.56 | Blapto | l33t clixoring skillz. |
14:35.18 | wethrin | :-) |
14:35.55 | wethrin | cool - http://en.wikibooks.com |
14:37.02 | George | mozrat: you 419 scamming bastard! |
14:37.06 | Blapto | Eeek. You know when something goes wrong, and you just panic? A client just phoned me to say that he needs a file restored from a backup. I ssh to his server, go to /backup, it's empty. I freeze. Panic. Think. mount /dev/sdc /backup. relax :D. |
14:37.19 | George | harhar |
14:37.22 | George | you have clients. |
14:37.32 | mozrat | George: yes! |
14:37.48 | Blapto | Yes, money and such. |
14:37.57 | George | haha you have money. |
14:38.16 | clyphox | hmmm money |
14:38.26 | rhowe | whee |
14:38.28 | clyphox | I want customers who I can ssh into |
14:38.33 | wethrin | good good :) |
14:38.40 | wethrin | Blapto: So you can join the SMWS |
14:38.48 | wethrin | clyphox: Would you like to ssh into them with a BIG STICK? |
14:38.50 | rhowe | but... we're probably going to go with Azzuri anyhow |
14:38.59 | George | I need a new computer. |
14:39.00 | Blapto | clyphox, I still own the server in their office. |
14:40.43 | George | eblapon Blapto. |
14:40.50 | George | hah! |
14:41.08 | Blapto | Yes yes, very amusing. |
14:41.33 | George | I can't remember the strong aorist of blapto |
14:41.42 | George | it /is/ eblapon right? |
14:41.52 | Blapto | I forget, haven't done greek in about 3 years. |
14:41.57 | George | useless bastard |
14:42.05 | George | my greek lexicon is at home. |
14:43.53 | George | does anyone else here do Classical Greek? |
14:44.16 | morsing | beer |
14:44.17 | mozrat | That could be the dumbest question George has eveer asked in here |
14:44.26 | George | mozrat: what?!?! |
14:44.46 | George | mozrat: Blapto did Classical Greek, as you can tell from his name... |
14:44.51 | mozrat | George: sit back and wait for the flood of answers to that question |
14:45.22 | mozrat | ... |
14:45.49 | George | mozrat: FYI, Blapto is the 1st person singular of the verb "to harm" in Classical Greek |
14:46.00 | Blapto | It's true. |
14:46.02 | mozrat | George: yeah, I was here last time it was discussed |
14:46.03 | George | mozrat: spelt beta, lambda, alpha, pi, tau, omega |
14:46.33 | Blapto | eta, beta, pi. |
14:47.11 | George | wtf |
14:47.39 | Blapto | Eat a better pie... |
14:47.54 | mozrat | Mmm pies |
14:48.02 | Blapto | mozrat, you got pie? |
14:48.18 | George | it's EATER, not EH-TAH |
14:48.25 | mozrat | I have 3.14159265 pies |
14:48.29 | George | er. |
14:48.34 | George | that sounded retarded |
14:48.45 | George | it's BEE TER, not BETTER |
14:50.12 | Blapto | It's a Pratchett thing. |
14:50.21 | George | well, he clearly didn't do Greek. |
14:50.49 | Blapto | And you clearly don't do humour. |
14:51.04 | George | hush thyself |
14:57.19 | Blapto | I'm off for a bit, bye |
14:58.53 | Cope | George: yes |
14:59.00 | Cope | George: I did Classical Greek |
15:00.23 | George | yay |
15:00.29 | George | Cope: what's the strong aorist of blapto? |
15:01.24 | Cope | can't recall if the 't' drops, but eblapon I expect |
15:01.31 | George | yay |
15:03.26 | George | heh, I sent an email to my headmaster asking if I could reschedule an appointment with him |
15:03.32 | George | and he replied "Yes..do see my secretary" |
15:03.34 | George | rofl |
15:05.49 | George | Sep 22 15:54:04 mail postfix/smtp[11571]: C0129140B4: to=<undeliverable@home.org.uk>, relay=none, delay=21, status=deferred (connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]: Connection refused) |
15:05.53 | George | not nice. |
15:13.17 | Cope | hehe |
15:16.11 | mozrat | Can anyone recommend a brute force password cracking tool? John only appears to do dictionary attacks |
15:17.20 | Cope | mozrat: yes - the internet |
15:17.41 | mozrat | apt-get install "the internet" |
15:17.48 | Cope | put the box online, email a bunch of newsgroups asking for it to be cracked |
15:17.51 | mozrat | wowsers - you should see the dependancy list |
15:18.23 | George | mozrat: the internet sucks |
15:18.29 | George | mozrat: it's full of stupid annoying 13 year olds :) |
15:18.37 | Cope | George: it does? I should try this! |
15:18.37 | mozrat | George: I agree, I'm holding out for version 2 |
15:18.49 | mozrat | Vacumn cleaners also suck |
15:18.57 | George | Cope: sick man |
15:19.25 | mozrat | Cope, I don't want to be cracked into thankyouverymuch but I want to test how secure one password is over another |
15:19.37 | mozrat | we are discussing how more secure one additional character is |
15:19.52 | mozrat | and if having the same character repeated makes any difference |
15:20.18 | mozrat | i.e. which is more secure against brute force passwordaaaaa or passworda*7b% |
15:20.42 | mozrat | and I thought a good test would be to run a brute force tool over it |
15:27.49 | rhowe | mozrat: 'crack'? |
15:27.59 | rhowe | Crack is program designed to quickly locate vulnerabilities |
15:27.59 | rhowe | in Unix (or other) password files by scanning the contents |
15:27.59 | rhowe | of a password file, looking for users who have misguidedly |
15:28.02 | rhowe | chosen a weak login password. |
15:30.31 | mozrat | rhowe - ta |
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15:32.53 | rhowe | mozrat: Has an md5 variant too |
15:33.47 | George | amavisd-new SUCKS |
15:40.16 | stephen | works fine for me (though I noticed that by default, debian's package of it disables spam checking) |
15:41.23 | Blapto | So my dad's a fool. |
15:41.52 | Blapto | It seems I'm going to get a nice watch for my birthday. |
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15:46.33 | clyphox | pub time! |
15:46.36 | clyphox | yay |
15:47.40 | morsing | beer |
16:03.26 | wethrin | Mm. Beer. |
16:18.44 | rhowe | Jia time |
16:18.45 | rhowe | yay |
16:18.58 | rhowe | Anyone coming to the Planetarium later? |
16:20.21 | new2unix | rhowe: am on ma way out now. |
16:21.20 | new2unix | later all |
16:23.18 | rhowe | new2unix: 'k |
16:23.30 | rhowe | new2unix: http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/me+jia.jpg |
16:23.36 | rhowe | new2unix: We'll look like that :) |
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17:48.00 | mozrat | ho hum |
17:49.43 | Blapto | muh oh |
17:52.40 | Blapto | Fscking district line! |
17:52.43 | Blapto | Stupid stupid line |
17:55.02 | mozrat | yes, i share your pain |
17:55.05 | mozrat | ooh my stop! |
17:56.02 | mozrat | laters |
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21:31.18 | mozrat | quiet tonight! |
21:40.24 | Blapto | You have to remember all the trivia your girlfriend asks you. One day you'll get tested. |
21:40.35 | Blapto | She'll say "what's my favourite flour" |
21:40.52 | Blapto | And you'll murmer "Shit... I wasn't listening. Errr, Self-raising?" |
21:41.12 | Blapto | I'm still really confused as to why she was talking about baking products with me though. |
21:43.47 | mozrat | yeah - just make that shit up |
21:44.03 | mozrat | why does she have a favourite kind of flower? |
21:44.12 | mozrat | sure the answer wasn't "rose"? :) |
21:44.19 | mozrat | you might have misheard |
21:54.11 | Blapto | It's a distinct possibility. |
21:54.25 | Blapto | But yeah. I may have paraphrased, that's not quite how it happened. |
21:54.30 | Blapto | I just thought it would be funny. |
21:54.34 | mozrat | :) |
21:54.58 | mozrat | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4272418.stm |
21:55.13 | Blapto | yeah, my brother was discussing that earlier. |
21:55.21 | mozrat | Some people need to stop playing online games more and GET OUT OF THE HOUSE |
21:55.49 | mozrat | "Many online discussion sites were buzzing with reports from the disaster zones with some describing seeing "hundreds" of bodies lying in the virtual streets of the online towns and cities." |
21:55.53 | mozrat | Boo.... hoo? |
21:57.16 | Blapto | I find it hilarious. |
21:57.58 | Blapto | It's not happened on my brother's server yet, because it's a new one apparently. |
21:58.07 | Blapto | I won't play MMOPRGS, I got hooked on ROSE. |
21:58.11 | Blapto | It was scary. |
21:58.44 | mozrat | Is that WOW game the same one where some dorktard spent thousands of dollars of real money on a virtual property? |
21:58.58 | Blapto | Very possibly. |
21:59.22 | mozrat | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4104731.stm |
22:00.25 | Blapto | The Entopia economy lets gamers exchange real currency into PED (Project Entropia Dollars) and back again into real money. |
22:00.31 | Blapto | That's very interesting. |
22:00.57 | mozrat | whats the phrase about a fool and his money? :) |
22:01.18 | Blapto | It's interesting how they will actually honour the transfer though. |
22:01.32 | Blapto | I'm not sure how they back it up, but they seem to have developed an online world with a real economy. |
22:02.15 | mozrat | "Earlier this year economists calculated that these massively multi-player online role-playing games (MMORPGs) have a gross economic impact equivalent to the GDP of the African nation of Namibia." |
22:03.42 | Blapto | I'm actually fascinated. |
22:07.34 | Blapto | I wonder if they treat duping as a criminal offence in the real world. |
22:08.27 | mozrat | hmm |
22:18.22 | Blapto | To bed! |
22:18.26 | Blapto | Night |
22:30.14 | mozrat | nn |
22:33.46 | mozrat | how was it? |
22:34.23 | new2unix | rhowe: was that the gf? |
22:45.52 | George | moo. |
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23:54.52 | rhowe | new2unix: No |
23:56.18 | rhowe | new2unix: A close friend (although the gf isn't exactly aware just how close we are, and nor is her bf) |