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| 07:36.44 | mozrat | ello morsing |
| 07:44.01 | morsing | You're up early |
| 07:44.05 | morsing | It's raining here |
| 07:59.50 | mozrat | morsing: I'm an hour ahead |
| 07:59.54 | mozrat | and at work :( |
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| 08:48.08 | Blapto | On a Sunday? |
| 08:48.14 | Blapto | Bloody European slave drivers. |
| 08:49.32 | mozrat | yep |
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| 09:42.28 | Marios_ | hey |
| 09:45.49 | Blapto | Hi |
| 09:46.12 | Marios_ | so quiet here |
| 09:46.38 | Blapto | Yup |
| 09:46.45 | Blapto | Perhaps people are being social on a Sunday |
| 09:46.48 | Blapto | or lying in |
| 09:46.51 | Blapto | you never know |
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| 09:49.35 | Marios_ | you are right :) |
| 10:07.45 | George | moo |
| 10:07.57 | Marios_ | Hello George |
| 10:08.03 | George | hi |
| 10:08.21 | Marios_ | long time to see you here |
| 10:08.35 | George | ? |
| 10:08.47 | Marios_ | :) |
| 10:08.59 | Marios_ | where is Leeds by the way ? Is he still in HK ? |
| 10:09.04 | George | heh. |
| 10:16.04 | mozrat | hey Marios_ |
| 10:16.23 | Marios_ | mozrat : how are you mate? |
| 10:16.31 | mozrat | Marios_: good thanks :) |
| 10:16.48 | mozrat | Been a long time |
| 10:16.53 | Marios_ | I don't have much time to come online |
| 10:17.00 | Marios_ | busy at work :( |
| 10:17.01 | mozrat | you never call.... you never visit.... |
| 10:17.10 | mozrat | you treat this place like a hotel |
| 10:17.17 | Marios_ | I will very soon |
| 10:17.25 | Marios_ | finishing up some projects |
| 10:17.33 | Marios_ | and then we go for drinks |
| 10:17.35 | Marios_ | promise |
| 10:17.37 | mozrat | I'm joking with you - is life good? |
| 10:17.49 | Marios_ | yes |
| 10:17.54 | Marios_ | just bought a house |
| 10:18.10 | Marios_ | another thing in my list that takes my free time |
| 10:18.30 | mozrat | congratulations |
| 10:18.36 | Marios_ | thanks ! |
| 10:18.38 | mozrat | do you like London still? |
| 10:18.45 | Marios_ | yes it is very nice |
| 10:18.55 | Marios_ | better than Michigan |
| 10:18.57 | Marios_ | ;) |
| 10:19.05 | mozrat | :) |
| 10:19.24 | Marios_ | how is work ? |
| 10:19.36 | mozrat | good - I'm in Hamburg today |
| 10:19.47 | Marios_ | ohhh |
| 10:19.50 | Marios_ | cool ! |
| 10:19.53 | mozrat | http://www.beerandspeech.org/index.php?/archives/13-Where-I-shall-be....html |
| 10:20.00 | mozrat | click the map and then zoom out |
| 10:20.29 | Marios_ | hahahahaha very good |
| 10:20.33 | Marios_ | I love google maps |
| 10:20.52 | mozrat | yes |
| 10:21.01 | mozrat | I want Google Earth for Linux though |
| 10:21.04 | mozrat | that is awesome |
| 10:21.28 | Marios_ | never tried it |
| 10:21.30 | Marios_ | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=IG10+3dl&ll=51.633256,0.057592&spn=0.006352,0.015044&t=h&hl=en |
| 10:21.34 | Marios_ | here is where I am |
| 10:22.07 | Erwin | google maps doesn't even have my street! |
| 10:22.28 | mozrat | not so far from me really |
| 10:22.39 | Marios_ | mozrat: where do you stay ? |
| 10:22.39 | mozrat | Erwin: move house then |
| 10:23.32 | mozrat | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=rm13+7hs&spn=0.021806,0.059687&t=h&hl=en |
| 10:23.53 | Erwin | http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=e14+9pb&spn=0.023067,0.031678&hl=en |
| 10:24.20 | Marios_ | mozrat: you are on district line right ? |
| 10:24.38 | mozrat | Marios_: yes |
| 10:24.43 | Marios_ | cool |
| 10:24.53 | Marios_ | Erwin: you live next to my workplace |
| 10:26.14 | mozrat | Marios_: how do you commute to work? |
| 10:26.38 | Marios_ | Central Line to Stratford....the Jubilee line to Canary Wharf |
| 10:27.03 | Erwin | Marios_: Reuters? |
| 10:27.17 | Marios_ | nope |
| 10:27.41 | Erwin | ok, well, then any of the other big things in CW :) |
| 10:27.55 | Marios_ | hehehe |
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| 12:07.14 | mozrat | hallo angelchild |
| 12:07.19 | AngelChild | heya |
| 12:07.28 | AngelChild | mandriva makes my sound card work |
| 12:07.31 | AngelChild | I am happy :) |
| 12:07.37 | mozrat | are you winning today? |
| 12:07.43 | AngelChild | yes |
| 12:07.44 | mozrat | oh!! cool!!!! |
| 12:07.49 | mozrat | how so? |
| 12:07.56 | AngelChild | I can play "twinkle twinkle little star" and all |
| 12:08.37 | mozrat | gazoo? |
| 12:08.40 | AngelChild | just a keyboard |
| 12:08.51 | AngelChild | but wired through the soundcard's MIDI synth :) |
| 12:09.20 | mozrat | nice |
| 12:09.28 | George | PPTP SUCKS ARSE DONKEYS |
| 12:09.38 | AngelChild | why so? |
| 12:09.47 | George | it just does. |
| 12:12.11 | mozrat | cos you cant get it work or another reason? |
| 12:36.34 | mozrat | angelchild - are you going to relase this music in an ogg file for us? :) |
| 12:37.17 | AngelChild | twinkle twinkle? :) |
| 12:37.24 | AngelChild | let's try recording it |
| 12:37.31 | mozrat | yes! |
| 12:41.53 | George | moo. |
| 12:42.53 | eye69 | G'd afternoon |
| 12:43.46 | mozrat | hi eye69 |
| 12:47.39 | mozrat | ewh |
| 12:47.46 | mozrat | what is that? |
| 12:48.00 | mozrat | something to do with mono? |
| 12:49.06 | AngelChild | hrm, okay I have it recorded in rosegarden, now to figure out how to turn it into an OGG |
| 12:49.34 | mozrat | angelchild, mp3 will do :) |
| 12:49.44 | AngelChild | well, I can't do that either :P |
| 12:49.47 | AngelChild | working on it |
| 12:51.17 | eye69 | mozrat: Also known as the "kissing disease"... |
| 12:52.11 | eye69 | Shows itself as "strep throat", cold symptoms and stuff, but can't be cured with antibiotics |
| 12:52.26 | mozrat | see, girls do carry disease! |
| 12:52.30 | eye69 | Heh |
| 12:54.54 | AngelChild | TiMidity++ version 2.13.2 -- MIDI to WAVE converter and player <--- woo \o/ |
| 12:55.18 | eye69 | My car didn't pass the MOT :/ |
| 12:55.21 | AngelChild | :< |
| 12:55.38 | eye69 | I wasn't surprised though...I knew about 2 positional lights and the tires. |
| 12:56.00 | eye69 | I didn't know about the uneven rear braking and the damaged brake line though |
| 12:56.09 | AngelChild | and the fact that the roof was missing didn't help the case? |
| 12:56.15 | eye69 | :) |
| 12:56.43 | mozrat | unlucky eye69 |
| 12:57.03 | eye69 | Just have to get it fixed before 10/24 |
| 12:57.31 | eye69 | All of it are easy fixes...just takes some money |
| 12:58.06 | mozrat | german keyboard layout sucks |
| 12:58.54 | mozrat | very *nix unfriendly |
| 12:59.04 | mozrat | shift 7 for / |
| 13:00.18 | AngelChild | timidity has about 3000000 options |
| 13:00.37 | eye69 | mozrat: Same on the Swedish layout. |
| 13:00.58 | eye69 | Unless I need едц I use the UK layout. |
| 13:11.00 | AngelChild | get in! it's now oggified :) |
| 13:17.17 | AngelChild | mozrat: http://catalyst.lazyilluminati.com/catalyst/TwinkleTwinkle.ogg should work xD |
| 13:48.39 | mozrat | sorry angelchild |
| 13:49.04 | mozrat | i am here - walking between desks and grrrring at macs |
| 13:49.38 | AngelChild | :P |
| 13:50.49 | mozrat | going to listen now - i have high expectations! |
| 13:50.55 | AngelChild | oh dear xD |
| 13:51.25 | JAV | AngelChild: what keyboard do you have? |
| 13:51.50 | AngelChild | my friend lent me an M-Audio keystation 61es |
| 13:52.07 | AngelChild | I aim to buy something of my own soon, although probably not as swish :P |
| 13:52.14 | mozrat | :D |
| 13:52.16 | mozrat | very good! |
| 13:52.36 | AngelChild | xD |
| 13:52.47 | JAV | I have a.. yamaha motif es88 |
| 13:53.03 | mozrat | chords and all sorts going on there |
| 13:53.35 | mozrat | when /me gets home he might record a guitar track to mix in with it |
| 13:53.47 | mozrat | we can pass it around the channel and release it as a single |
| 13:53.58 | mozrat | George can provide the choirboy vocals :P |
| 13:54.09 | JAV | hehe |
| 13:54.18 | George | ? |
| 13:56.13 | mozrat | ok - help me |
| 13:56.15 | mozrat | HAM1-graf35g5:/Users admin$ ls -ln |
| 13:56.15 | mozrat | total 8 |
| 13:56.15 | mozrat | drwxrwxrwt 10 0 0 340 24 Sep 15:33 Shared |
| 13:56.15 | mozrat | drwxr-xr-x 15 501 20 510 25 Sep 15:36 admin |
| 13:56.17 | mozrat | drwxr-xr-x 11 1608749801 20 374 24 Sep 17:43 antje.escher |
| 13:56.20 | mozrat | drwxr-xr-x 11 1106344260 20 374 24 Sep 19:00 iris.maschmann |
| 13:56.22 | mozrat | lrwxr-xr-x 1 0 80 14 25 Sep 15:25 michael.ossenbrueggen -> mossenbrueggen |
| 13:56.25 | mozrat | drwxr-xr-x 17 804043921 20 578 24 Sep 15:25 mossenbrueggen |
| 13:56.28 | mozrat | drwxr-xr-x 11 390123485 20 374 25 Sep 15:49 simon.morris |
| 13:56.30 | mozrat | michael.ossenbrueggen is a sym link right? |
| 13:56.33 | mozrat | so |
| 13:56.38 | mozrat | HAM1-graf35g5:/Users admin$ rm michael.ossenbrueggen/ |
| 13:56.38 | mozrat | rm: michael.ossenbrueggen/: is a directory |
| 13:56.41 | mozrat | why? |
| 13:56.54 | mozrat | I can delete symlinks without deleting the original folder |
| 13:57.22 | Erwin | don't put / at the end |
| 13:57.30 | Erwin | that resolve the symlink |
| 13:57.43 | mozrat | HAM1-graf35g5:/Users admin$ rm michael.ossenbrueggen |
| 13:57.43 | mozrat | HAM1-graf35g5:/Users admin$ |
| 13:57.46 | mozrat | thank you |
| 13:57.51 | mozrat | bash completion |
| 13:57.59 | mozrat | *smacks.head* |
| 14:01.32 | mozrat | Michael Ossenbrueggen has a name too long for AD and it's causing his machine confusion |
| 14:01.54 | mozrat | I'm in half a mind to completely chop the last 'n' off his name |
| 14:02.11 | mozrat | on his email and everything and make him change his name legally |
| 14:03.49 | AngelChild | Michael Ossen |
| 14:03.56 | eye69 | Moss |
| 14:05.02 | AngelChild | M |
| 14:08.04 | mozrat | or just "" |
| 14:08.09 | mozrat | give him no name at all |
| 14:09.47 | mozrat | In bar: "Hi there, my name is NULL and I am a Taurus" |
| 14:10.43 | George | dddwin 32 |
| 14:13.54 | George | what is a console logging program? |
| 14:13.54 | George | s/a/a good/ |
| 14:13.54 | George | ie - I run it like screen |
| 14:13.54 | George | and it logs all the commands I type in and their output.. |
| 14:16.43 | mozrat | George: I dunno but I was wondering exactly that recently |
| 14:16.47 | mozrat | if you find one let me know |
| 14:22.51 | mozrat | "Why I hate macs" |
| 14:22.55 | mozrat | HAM1-graf35g5:~ admin$ lookupd |
| 14:22.55 | mozrat | lookupd is already running! |
| 14:22.55 | mozrat | HAM1-graf35g5:~ admin$ lookupd --help |
| 14:22.55 | mozrat | Unknown option: --help |
| 14:22.55 | mozrat | HAM1-graf35g5:~ admin$ lookupd -h |
| 14:22.57 | mozrat | Unknown option: -h |
| 14:23.19 | mozrat | HAM1-graf35g5:~ admin$ lookupd fuck off and die? |
| 14:23.19 | mozrat | Unknown option: fuck |
| 14:23.51 | George | mozrat: screen |
| 14:23.57 | George | mozrat: ctrl-A shift-H |
| 14:24.23 | mozrat | nice |
| 14:24.58 | George | heh. |
| 14:25.21 | mozrat | so a utility like screen that logs which is screen! |
| 14:25.49 | mozrat | I wanted one to audit stuff done on a server with multiple admins though |
| 14:26.03 | mozrat | can you make a users shell /usr/bin/screen |
| 14:26.04 | mozrat | ? |
| 14:26.05 | George | hheh. |
| 14:26.08 | George | dunno. |
| 14:26.14 | George | maybe. |
| 14:26.29 | mozrat | unless screen reads a users shell variable |
| 14:26.38 | mozrat | which would be a little recursive |
| 14:26.56 | George | mozrat: you can do "screen /bin/bash"? |
| 14:27.04 | George | that'll execute bash inside a screen session |
| 14:27.44 | mozrat | cool |
| 14:55.22 | mozrat | WOW - can I claim a record for the longest TCP session kept open for timing out?? |
| 14:55.46 | George | ? |
| 14:55.52 | mozrat | having said "cool" at 15:27 I unplugged my ethernet cable and took my notebook to another desk |
| 14:56.00 | mozrat | I had a SSH session open to a server |
| 14:56.06 | mozrat | just came back now and plugged it in |
| 14:56.12 | mozrat | hit the enter key |
| 14:56.17 | mozrat | SSH SESSION IS STILL UP! |
| 14:56.28 | George | amateur. |
| 14:56.45 | mozrat | ? |
| 14:56.49 | George | :P |
| 14:57.25 | mozrat | I was impressed anyway |
| 14:57.33 | George | lol |
| 14:59.37 | AngelChild | \o/ |
| 15:00.32 | mozrat | I think George has hidden feelings for AngelChild - he's always attracting her attention |
| 15:00.57 | George | ROFL |
| 15:01.00 | AngelChild | and killing me |
| 15:01.16 | George | mozrat: that is SICK |
| 15:01.26 | mozrat | is it true Georgy? Do you want AngelChild to make sweet sweet music for you? |
| 15:02.03 | AngelChild | O.o |
| 15:06.24 | mozrat | Silence speaks volumes |
| 15:10.57 | George | wtf |
| 15:11.24 | George | I *hate* AngelChild |
| 15:11.33 | AngelChild | he does |
| 15:11.36 | AngelChild | I don't know why either |
| 15:11.57 | mozrat | nasty nasty George |
| 15:12.15 | George | killed two bird with one stone! :D |
| 15:12.46 | AngelChild | it apparently helps to install lame if you intend to rip CDs using it to encode things with :s |
| 15:12.54 | mozrat | George is lame |
| 15:13.41 | George | wrong |
| 15:13.43 | George | I'm amazing |
| 15:14.01 | mozrat | Hmmmm, says lame here |
| 15:14.21 | mozrat | AngelChild: do you have blog/www/etc? |
| 15:14.27 | AngelChild | nope :) |
| 15:14.46 | mozrat | AngelChild: bah |
| 15:14.58 | mozrat | get one and we can add you to planet.gllug.org.uk |
| 15:14.59 | AngelChild | http://catalyst.lazyilluminati.com is about the closest I get :P |
| 15:15.35 | George | she's lame |
| 15:16.29 | mozrat | AngelChild: wtf? |
| 15:16.35 | AngelChild | exactly |
| 15:16.40 | AngelChild | :P |
| 15:16.40 | George | 16:15 < AngelChild> http://catalyst.lazyilluminati.com is about the closest I get :P |
| 15:16.46 | mozrat | "I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts!" |
| 15:16.51 | AngelChild | diddly dee |
| 15:17.09 | mozrat | dum-dee-dum |
| 15:17.16 | mozrat | *taps.foot* |
| 15:17.26 | AngelChild | hurray for monty python \o/ |
| 15:17.45 | mozrat | hurrarh indeed |
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| 15:30.48 | mozrat | new2unix: which format are you listening to that in? |
| 15:30.55 | mozrat | JAV!! |
| 15:31.29 | JAV | having fun with usb-midi here :D |
| 15:31.35 | AngelChild | :D |
| 15:34.05 | new2unix | mozrat: O format. Its New technology. Plays on every player. Quality is prestine. |
| 15:34.33 | mozrat | is it a lossy format? |
| 15:34.52 | mozrat | and is it free?! Most importantly? |
| 15:34.57 | mozrat | Did MS patent it yet? |
| 15:35.05 | new2unix | lossless but files are same size as average lossy. |
| 15:35.36 | new2unix | BSD license so truly FREE. None of that GPL malarky |
| 15:38.44 | new2unix | ahh. it seems the sme coders as NaDa worked on the development of the O format. Incredible. |
| 15:40.52 | mozrat | I wonder what they wrote it in? It would have to be fast |
| 15:41.08 | mozrat | You don't want nothing to run slowly |
| 15:45.18 | new2unix | The Net would be dead boring without these. :) |
| 15:47.46 | mozrat | *click* |
| 15:49.06 | mozrat | these people want to send me petrol through the post??? |
| 15:49.51 | mozrat | Right, just found a condition in Windows 2003 that is documented on their website.. it is confirmed as a problem with that product and a fix is available. |
| 15:49.57 | mozrat | However I have to phone them to get it |
| 15:50.14 | JAV | :-O |
| 15:50.24 | mozrat | and I presume give payment details - if they find out my issue is fixed by this hotfix I don't have to pay |
| 15:50.27 | JAV | they fax it |
| 15:50.30 | mozrat | I hate Microsoft |
| 15:50.47 | mozrat | hate hate hate them |
| 15:51.38 | AngelChild | every time I try out a new distro of linux i have less and less reasons to use windows :) |
| 15:51.39 | new2unix | mozrat: what site? what product? you working on Sunday? |
| 15:52.44 | new2unix | Angelchild: What distro is this then? |
| 15:53.05 | AngelChild | currently mandriva's pre release for their new 2006 version |
| 15:53.10 | mozrat | new2unix: I'm in Hamburg migrating an office onto AD |
| 15:53.20 | mozrat | they are 98% Mac |
| 15:53.26 | mozrat | being they have 49 Macs and a PC |
| 15:53.37 | mozrat | well - now they also have a Windows2003 domain controller |
| 15:54.32 | new2unix | Mozrat: so whats the problem? |
| 15:54.57 | mozrat | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/872957/ |
| 15:55.00 | new2unix | mozrat: you doing single signons? |
| 15:55.07 | mozrat | something to do about invalid LDAP searches |
| 15:55.13 | mozrat | new2unix: yes - kerberos |
| 15:55.17 | mozrat | works well |
| 15:55.48 | JAV | $ glxgears |
| 15:55.48 | JAV | 5004 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1000.736 FPS |
| 15:55.58 | JAV | xorg people work hard :D |
| 15:56.15 | JAV | +200fps this time |
| 15:56.57 | new2unix | mozrat: we migrated all our Macs over to AD with little or no hitch. I dont remember encountering that error. |
| 15:57.01 | mozrat | strees relief |
| 15:57.17 | mozrat | new2unix: yeah, we've done 8 or so offices and this is the first time I've seen it |
| 15:57.28 | mozrat | I don't know why this Mac is different |
| 15:57.37 | mozrat | I picked the error message up in tcpdump |
| 15:57.38 | new2unix | just 1 mac? |
| 15:57.59 | mozrat | well - we have a couple of issues apart from this, but yeah - this one won't bind |
| 15:57.59 | new2unix | what version of OS X? |
| 15:58.02 | mozrat | 10.3.9 |
| 15:59.13 | mozrat | I'd seen dsconfigad before but there is an option about -localhome that is breaking somewhere that isn't available through the UI |
| 16:02.08 | mozrat | FRISBEE - seeing as MS Support is closed on the weekend |
| 16:02.09 | new2unix | must try the tip when i get back into work. |
| 16:02.11 | mozrat | bbiab |
| 16:44.36 | George | HAHAHAHA |
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| 16:58.41 | mozrat | which is probably a misleading thing to say as morsing has just joined! |
| 16:58.46 | George | any red hat buffs here? |
| 16:58.53 | George | agk? |
| 16:59.47 | new2unix | George: nope. they've all migrated. |
| 17:00.00 | George | I'm doing some sysadmin work on an RHEL server |
| 17:00.29 | new2unix | George: serves you right. |
| 17:00.43 | new2unix | hope it hurts. lol |
| 17:00.54 | George | ??? |
| 17:00.57 | George | I'm being paid for it |
| 17:01.04 | new2unix | Oh. :) |
| 17:01.26 | new2unix | thought it was community service. |
| 17:01.33 | George | .. |
| 17:03.42 | George | anybody know how to install Tomcat on RHEL then? |
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| 18:15.27 | mozrat | morsing: ! |
| 18:16.08 | morsing | mozrat! |
| 18:16.10 | morsing | :-) |
| 18:16.20 | mozrat | how are you? |
| 18:16.30 | morsing | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6806024542 |
| 18:16.38 | morsing | I'm fine thank-you. You? |
| 18:17.02 | mozrat | working but yeah OK |
| 18:17.59 | morsing | Interested in my item? |
| 18:20.07 | mozrat | no thanks.. don't need memory at the moment |
| 18:20.07 | mozrat | my main machine is my laptop currently |
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| 18:51.04 | morsing | Mmm... Homemade jam |
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| 18:53.56 | \simon | hi all |
| 18:55.06 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.30 | \simon | what's up? |
| 18:55.55 | George | school time |
| 18:56.56 | \simon | sunday at 20:56... school time? |
| 18:57.10 | George | yes. |
| 18:59.24 | \simon | what school? |
| 19:31.15 | mozrat | hello \simon |
| 19:32.22 | George | \simon: Harrow |
| 19:32.27 | mozrat | Hmm - this is interesting, the file server here has 2 A records |
| 19:32.35 | mozrat | when I ping it this happens |
| 19:32.37 | mozrat | sm@cmt02smorris01:~$ ping ham1fs01 |
| 19:32.38 | mozrat | PING ham1fs01.ewns.net (172.22.4.19) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 19:32.38 | mozrat | 64 bytes from ham1fs01.ewns.net (172.22.4.19): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.232 ms |
| 19:32.39 | mozrat | 64 bytes from ham1-xserve.ewns.net (172.22.4.19): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.300 ms |
| 19:32.39 | mozrat | 64 bytes from ham1fs01.ewns.net (172.22.4.19): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.354 ms |
| 19:32.40 | mozrat | 64 bytes from ham1-xserve.ewns.net (172.22.4.19): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.283 ms |
| 19:32.42 | mozrat | 64 bytes from ham1fs01.ewns.net (172.22.4.19): icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.222 ms |
| 19:32.45 | mozrat | 64 bytes from ham1-xserve.ewns.net (172.22.4.19): icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.270 ms |
| 19:32.52 | mozrat | it alternates between A records |
| 19:36.13 | mozrat | although I guess it is getting the name from the PTR record for that address - it can't do a DNS query for each ping surely |
| 19:50.05 | morsing | mozrat: AIX does! I gets all addresses and alterbates |
| 19:50.18 | morsing | s/alterbates/alternates/ |
| 19:52.25 | mozrat | morsing: why? |
| 19:53.17 | \simon | it might take the whole list in the beginning and then it alternates just in the print on the console |
| 19:53.45 | mozrat | ( \simon hello! ) |
| 19:53.53 | \simon | hi mozrat |
| 19:53.54 | mozrat | that would be silly though |
| 19:53.58 | mozrat | no need for it |
| 19:54.08 | \simon | i agree |
| 19:54.17 | mozrat | silly ping command |
| 19:55.26 | \simon | [simon@gate ~]$ ping -V |
| 19:55.27 | \simon | ping utility, iputils-ss020927 |
| 20:00.52 | morsing | mozrat: Not just ping works this way. I think it's in an RFC as well |
| 20:01.16 | morsing | Browsers are the same |
| 20:02.05 | mozrat | morsing: oh! |
| 20:02.14 | mozrat | how would a browser behave in that way? |
| 20:02.54 | morsing | Each session (TCP connection) it opens uses the next address |
| 20:03.11 | morsing | It can use multiple server even for one page load |
| 20:03.26 | mozrat | gotcha |
| 20:04.14 | mozrat | morsing: today I had a SSH session open, pulled my ethernet cable to move desks and went back 30 minutes later and the session just resumed |
| 20:04.24 | mozrat | hit enter twice and I had my shell again |
| 20:04.32 | morsing | :-) |
| 20:04.34 | mozrat | it was just around 28-35 mins |
| 20:04.42 | mozrat | TCP++ |
| 20:20.41 | George | mozrat: stop boasting about your timeout record |
| 20:20.48 | George | I have a REAL timeout record |
| 20:21.12 | mozrat | George: Not boasting... just amazed it sat there waiting for input |
| 20:21.32 | mozrat | George: yeah but your timeout record is between you saying anything vaguely sensible |
| 20:21.40 | George | :D |
| 20:21.48 | George | actually, it's 200 timeout bars in an hour |
| 20:21.49 | mozrat | and it currently stands at about 50 minutes |
| 20:21.57 | mozrat | hehehe |
| 20:21.59 | mozrat | porky |
| 20:22.09 | George | (I didn't really) |
| 20:22.18 | George | mozrat: have you ever used an HP 48? |
| 20:22.37 | mozrat | I don't think so - which HP product is it? |
| 20:22.46 | George | calculator |
| 20:22.51 | mozrat | no |
| 20:22.52 | George | http://www.hpmuseum.org/gallery/hp48gx.jpg |
| 20:23.08 | George | I'm pondering downgrading from a 49G+ to a 48GX |
| 20:23.11 | mozrat | looks shiny |
| 20:23.46 | George | I earnt 80 GBP today! |
| 20:23.51 | George | aren't I a cool kid? |
| 20:25.28 | mozrat | yes |
| 20:25.39 | George | :D |
| 20:25.41 | mozrat | hope you're paying 20% tax on that |
| 20:25.51 | George | I let my accountant deal with all that |
| 20:26.52 | mozrat | is your accountant also your Dad or Mum? |
| 20:26.59 | George | no |
| 20:27.04 | mozrat | God, you are so posh |
| 20:27.05 | George | not a relative |
| 20:27.08 | George | why? |
| 20:27.22 | mozrat | how do you cram so much food in your mouth past that silver spoon? |
| 20:27.27 | George | ??? |
| 20:27.30 | mozrat | heh |
| 20:27.40 | mozrat | why do you have an accountant already? |
| 20:27.45 | George | because. |
| 20:27.48 | mozrat | You're not earning enough to pay tax yet |
| 20:27.58 | George | my father has an accountant |
| 20:28.08 | George | and he is quite willing to do all my accountancy work for free |
| 20:30.18 | mozrat | fair enough |
| 20:30.34 | mozrat | you are still posh though |
| 20:30.40 | George | no I'm not. |
| 20:30.45 | mozrat | are so |
| 20:31.06 | George | am not. |
| 20:31.22 | mozrat | I'm not saying it's bad |
| 20:31.28 | George | am not. |
| 20:31.36 | mozrat | I'm glad you don't have Burberry in your wardrobe |
| 20:31.41 | mozrat | and a ring through your ear |
| 20:31.49 | mozrat | You are a lovely chap |
| 20:31.53 | George | I had a burberry blazer last year |
| 20:31.54 | mozrat | just a bit posh thats all |
| 20:32.10 | George | but not one of their horrid tartans |
| 20:34.11 | George | my wardrobe is actually full of computer boxes |
| 20:34.15 | George | there are hardly any clothes in there |
| 20:34.19 | George | the clothes are all over the floor |
| 20:34.23 | George | and they're mainly KDE tshirts :D |
| 20:34.59 | mozrat | :D |
| 20:39.01 | George | moo. |
| 20:39.37 | George | ?!??!?!?! |
| 20:45.32 | George | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.24 | z00dax | whats everyone doing this Sunday evening |
| 20:48.58 | George | eating. |
| 20:49.45 | mozrat | working |
| 20:50.03 | mozrat | hating OSX |
| 20:50.11 | mozrat | teasing George |
| 20:50.42 | George | fuck you |
| 20:51.02 | z00dax | heh |
| 20:51.16 | mozrat | language like that from a young chap with a privileged upbringing |
| 20:51.33 | mozrat | what are you doing z00dax |
| 20:51.59 | z00dax | mozrat: been lazing around all weekend, trying to get the flu out of my system |
| 20:53.26 | z00dax | had a couple of friends over in the afternoon, ( to watch the F1 ), who just left - so clearing up the place a bit |
| 20:58.25 | mozrat | cool |
| 21:00.17 | z00dax | if you hate osx, why not move to linux on the same machine ? |
| 21:01.16 | mozrat | z00dax: it's in an customer office |
| 21:01.18 | mozrat | they might notice |
| 21:01.42 | z00dax | ah |
| 21:02.10 | mozrat | But I have no doubt it would be easier to debug than this piece of shit |
| 21:04.10 | mozrat | *LOUD* |
| 21:05.25 | mozrat | There is absolutely no verboseness in Apples products |
| 21:05.29 | mozrat | sheesh |
| 21:05.30 | George | anyone know how to use minicom? |
| 21:05.33 | mozrat | George: yes |
| 21:05.38 | mozrat | what are you connecting to? |
| 21:05.44 | George | an hp48 emulator |
| 21:05.48 | George | on /dev/pts/4 |
| 21:05.48 | mozrat | minicom -s |
| 21:05.53 | mozrat | setup your console port |
| 21:06.01 | mozrat | you probably want 9600 baud |
| 21:06.06 | mozrat | but check the manual |
| 21:06.17 | mozrat | don't forget to hang up the modem when you are done |
| 21:07.39 | \simon | hey does anyone of you has experience with asterisk? |
| 21:08.08 | mozrat | \simon, yes a fair bit |
| 21:08.29 | George | mozrat: does minicom do kermit? |
| 21:08.36 | mozrat | George: 9N1 is a sane setting to try first |
| 21:08.38 | \simon | is there any way to know in the extensions if a number is currently registered? |
| 21:08.45 | George | mozrat: apparently no parity is the correct option |
| 21:08.48 | mozrat | \simon sip show peers |
| 21:08.56 | mozrat | George: *N* yes |
| 21:09.13 | mozrat | \simon or sip show registered |
| 21:09.26 | \simon | mozrat: no... i mean something else... i'll try to be more clear |
| 21:09.39 | \simon | i wanna do something like this: |
| 21:09.43 | Cope | hello |
| 21:09.46 | mozrat | Cope!! |
| 21:11.00 | \simon | exten => 2020,1,[Is the sip number 2020 registered? go to 6] |
| 21:11.00 | \simon | exten => 2020,2,bla bla.. |
| 21:11.00 | \simon | [...] |
| 21:11.00 | \simon | exten => 2020,6,bla bla... |
| 21:11.02 | \simon | [...] |
| 21:11.22 | mozrat | \simon, I see |
| 21:11.58 | mozrat | won't the dialplan go to n+101 if the number isn't registered anyway? |
| 21:12.06 | George | Cope: ever used an HP48? |
| 21:12.10 | \simon | you would say to use Dial right away... but that makes the 2020 ring if it's registered... and i dont want it |
| 21:12.11 | mozrat | I know you want to explicitly test it.... |
| 21:12.38 | Cope | George: we've had this conversation before! |
| 21:12.42 | mozrat | oh, so if it *is* registered go to priority 6 ? |
| 21:12.43 | George | Cope: yes/no? |
| 21:12.49 | Cope | yes - and I'm off to bed. |
| 21:12.51 | \simon | mozrat: yes |
| 21:12.52 | mozrat | lol |
| 21:12.53 | George | I hate you. |
| 21:13.09 | mozrat | Cope, that wasn't the answer George wanted :) |
| 21:13.24 | \simon | mozrat: and i cant use Dial... cos i have to do something else before dial |
| 21:13.51 | \simon | using Dial it's easy... if it's registered it rings... otherwise it keeps going in the list |
| 21:13.52 | mozrat | \simon: I'm sure I can think of a way but I'm working tonight :( |
| 21:14.05 | mozrat | want to mail me what you want to do? I'd like to have a look |
| 21:14.06 | \simon | mozrat: oh nevermind... dont waste time on this |
| 21:14.24 | \simon | mozrat: what work? |
| 21:14.35 | George | mozrat: ok, let's try with xmodem instead |
| 21:14.38 | mozrat | \simon: office migration in Hamburg |
| 21:14.47 | George | mozrat: I've set the baud to 9600 |
| 21:14.52 | George | mozrat: how do I send a file? |
| 21:14.53 | mozrat | 49 Macs to bind to AD, 4 servers |
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| 21:15.39 | \simon | mozrat: hamburg... germany? |
| 21:15.41 | mozrat | George: S |
| 21:15.59 | mozrat | Ctrl+A; Z for help |
| 21:16.05 | mozrat | \simon: yep :) |
| 21:16.30 | \simon | you're moving there? |
| 21:16.31 | mozrat | \simon to be a little more more precise I am here http://www.beerandspeech.org/index.php?/archives/13-Where-I-shall-be....html |
| 21:16.38 | mozrat | \simon: no - just here for this project |
| 21:17.53 | \simon | it seems nice... lots of green |
| 21:18.21 | mozrat | yes |
| 21:18.32 | \simon | are you there now? |
| 21:18.36 | \simon | in hamburg i mean |
| 21:18.38 | mozrat | yeah, flew in Friday |
| 21:18.44 | mozrat | yep - sat in office |
| 21:18.47 | mozrat | Macs are all but done |
| 21:19.19 | mozrat | the Mac servers aren't using the kerberos tickets properly so single sign on is broken, but that is a "nice to have" not "must have" |
| 21:20.10 | mozrat | George: are you in there? |
| 21:20.22 | \simon | what's your job exactly? sysadmin? |
| 21:20.38 | mozrat | \simon: Technology wise yeah, but I do mainly projects |
| 21:20.47 | mozrat | it is sysadmin type work as opposed to programming |
| 21:21.06 | mozrat | Cisco, AD, Linux.. no coding really |
| 21:21.13 | mozrat | Macs *vomit* |
| 21:21.17 | \simon | :D |
| 21:21.17 | mozrat | although I used to like them |
| 21:21.25 | mozrat | today they have given me the hump |
| 21:21.35 | \simon | hump? |
| 21:21.50 | mozrat | :) - where are you from \simon? |
| 21:21.58 | \simon | oh sorry I forgot to mention that i am from italy... i still dont know many words |
| 21:22.00 | mozrat | You just revealed your non-Englishness |
| 21:22.02 | mozrat | heheh |
| 21:22.08 | mozrat | it's a English saying |
| 21:22.14 | mozrat | The macs have pissed me off today |
| 21:22.27 | mozrat | I don't know why it is called getting the hump |
| 21:22.37 | \simon | ok i have "piss off" in my vocabulary |
| 21:22.40 | \simon | :) |
| 21:23.28 | mozrat | http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/13/messages/908.html |
| 21:23.37 | mozrat | Something to do with the fact camels are always grumpy |
| 21:24.33 | \simon | cool... and it's better than say "piss off"... isnt it? |
| 21:25.24 | mozrat | yes |
| 21:26.45 | \simon | do you know already how to fix the problem about kerberos? |
| 21:26.54 | mozrat | \simon, no.. I have a workaround |
| 21:27.01 | mozrat | where they have to login again to the file server |
| 21:27.06 | mozrat | but I would rather get it working |
| 21:27.46 | mozrat | by the way, your English is very good |
| 21:28.15 | \simon | oh thanks. but i have an american accent. |
| 21:28.39 | mozrat | oh? |
| 21:29.28 | \simon | oh = aww, sorry. |
| 21:29.37 | mozrat | heheh |
| 21:29.37 | \simon | it's the italian way |
| 21:29.37 | mozrat | n |
| 21:29.43 | mozrat | just wondering |
| 21:30.25 | \simon | "awww" is more girly |
| 21:31.02 | mozrat | not necessarily |
| 21:31.10 | mozrat | people say it here quite a lot |
| 21:31.23 | mozrat | like "awww, isn't George posh" |
| 21:32.08 | \simon | i see :) |
| 21:33.32 | \simon | do you actually go to the #gllug meetings or you just come on the irc channel? |
| 21:34.06 | mozrat | \simon: I've been to a couple but I live about an hour outside of London |
| 21:34.21 | mozrat | and I have a family so Saturdays aren't always great for me to go to LUG meetings |
| 21:34.39 | mozrat | there is a mailing list if you want to subscribe - it is very active |
| 21:34.57 | mozrat | and planet.gllug.org.uk for blogs |
| 21:35.52 | \simon | cool thanks |
| 21:36.24 | mozrat | np |
| 21:38.35 | \simon | do you have the linux day in uk? |
| 21:39.22 | mozrat | hmmm. I don't think so |
| 21:39.28 | mozrat | That would be cool though |
| 21:39.34 | mozrat | do you have it in .it? |
| 21:39.42 | \simon | it's in november in italy |
| 21:39.52 | mozrat | no, I haven't heard of that in the UK |
| 21:39.56 | \simon | all lugs throw a party, install fest, etcc. |
| 21:40.31 | \simon | conferences, etc... |
| 21:40.36 | mozrat | sounds great |
| 21:41.03 | mozrat | can you let me know when it is? It would be great to do something in the UK on the same day! |
| 21:41.49 | \simon | yah that would be really nice... it's in late november... last weekend or something like that |
| 21:42.10 | mozrat | send me some information if you can simon.morris at cmtww.com |
| 21:42.16 | \simon | we already start to prepare it... plan the talks, the events, etc... |
| 21:42.23 | mozrat | oh, by the way - cool name you have :D |
| 21:42.23 | \simon | sure |
| 21:42.46 | \simon | thanks... it's not my name... it's just the first part of my surname |
| 21:42.53 | mozrat | ahh :) |
| 21:43.43 | mozrat | OK - I'm going to go and try and get finished |
| 21:43.49 | mozrat | nice talking to you \simon |
| 21:43.53 | mozrat | catch you later |
| 21:45.16 | \simon | ok. thanks. see you later. good luck. |
| 22:46.37 | AngelChild | woo |
| 22:55.41 | AngelChild | oh, it's just you |
| 23:06.25 | \simon | goodnight |
