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`05:28.53`	`new2unix`	`moin all`
`06:08.00`	`Leeds`	`morning`
`06:15.18`	`new2unix`	`Morning Leeds`
`06:20.13`	`Leeds`	`new2unix: happy new year`
`06:28.19`	`new2unix`	`Leeds: Rosh Hashanah?`
`06:28.32`	`new2unix`	`Leeds: Happy New Year`
`06:33.49`	`Leeds`	`yup`
`06:43.21`	`Leeds`	`also Ramadan tomorrow`
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`07:25.39`	`\simon`	`'morninggggggggggggggg!`
`07:34.20`	`Leeds`	`\simon: happy new year`
`07:36.29`	`\simon`	`thanks Leeeeeeeeds!!!`
`07:41.39`	`ufo`	`\simon: try to get IP from work IP range on your home machine`
`07:41.45`	`ufo`	`morning :)`
`08:09.18`	`mozrat`	`Morning`
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`08:32.05`	`mozrat`	`wb Leeds, hello gregj`
`08:32.21`	`Leeds`	`argh...`
`08:32.29`	`Leeds`	`I'm on the wrong wireless network :-)`
`08:32.35`	`mozrat`	`heh`
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`09:51.46`	`mozrat`	`Leeds, are you there sire?`
`10:07.51`	`LeedsHK`	`yes`
`10:08.02`	`LeedsHK`	`mozrat: but not for long`
`10:08.22`	`mozrat`	`Leeds, in your Sun experience did you ever try to plug in a USB disk?`
`10:08.29`	`mozrat`	`and why doesn't it work for me :(`
`10:08.38`	`LeedsHK`	`I don't think so, but I'm sure people have done`
`10:09.24`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: Is Solaris generally considered a server platform only? I know they push it as a thin client solution`
`10:09.38`	`mozrat`	`but I'm struggling to enjoy it on my laptop`
`10:10.06`	`LeedsHK`	`yes, in general it is only targetted at servers... and a little bit at technical workstations`
`10:10.53`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: OK`
`10:11.46`	`LeedsHK`	`I did just pass on the usb question... I'll let you know if there's any response`
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`10:12.54`	`LeedsHK`	`mozrat: did you ever hear my mail redirection story?`
`10:13.02`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: no`
`10:13.16`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: and ta for passing that question on`
`10:13.23`	`LeedsHK`	`a few years ago, I noticed some missing mail - CD from Amazon not arrived, and so on...`
`10:14.12`	`LeedsHK`	`had a call from one of my neighbours to say that she knew where it was... My place is 31, there was another family called Cohen in 33, they'd moved and some of my mail had been caught up in their redirection...`
`10:14.23`	`LeedsHK`	`it had gone to, I thought she said... Euston...`
`10:14.30`	`LeedsHK`	`she actually said Houston :-)`
`10:14.41`	`mozrat`	`heh :)`
`10:15.02`	`LeedsHK`	`anyway, we did a bit of email, they sent back the important stuff, I told them to keep the CD, etc....`
`10:15.12`	`LeedsHK`	`and now...`
`10:15.35`	`LeedsHK`	`what should arrive here, in HK, on my redirection from number 31, but some mail addressed to the guy who used to live in 33 :-)`
`10:16.02`	`LeedsHK`	`mozrat: and the answer which has come back is http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/sol/components/details/642.html`
`10:16.23`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: God Bless our postal system`
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`10:23.13`	`LeedsHK`	`mozrat: so does that help you?`
`10:24.24`	`morsing`	`LeedsHK!`
`10:24.43`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: not sure`
`10:25.08`	`mozrat`	`it doesn't really say much apart from that the driver is loaded`
`10:25.20`	`mozrat`	`I can see my iPod (for example) being mentioned in /var/adm/messages`
`10:25.30`	`mozrat`	`but I don't know which device to mount`
`10:25.49`	`mozrat`	`and looking at the naming conventions of my other disks it isn't obvious from the log`
`10:36.15`	`LeedsHK`	`I have a direct report from someone who says he's used 3 memory sticks and a usb cd drive`
`10:36.33`	`LeedsHK`	`I assume your usb is supported/working`
`10:37.11`	`LeedsHK`	`mozrat:`
`10:37.13`	`LeedsHK`	`nBelgar leedshk; not really, just do mount <device>, some sticks needs a :c if i recall correctly`
`10:37.13`	`LeedsHK`	`nBelgar if you do a mkdir /rmdisk and restart the volume manager, chances are that it will pick it up for you`
`10:37.38`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: thanks`
`10:54.55`	`mozrat`	`same to you`
`11:21.54`	`Cope`	`so in which universe is it new year in Novemember?`
`11:22.01`	`Cope`	`or even october!`
`11:22.02`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK's`
`11:22.11`	`Cope`	`more specifically?`
`11:22.24`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK's universe`
`11:22.25`	`wethrin`	`:)`
`11:23.02`	`Cope`	`ah jewish - tomorrow`
`11:23.16`	`Cope`	`evidently no-one's told them about jesus`
`11:23.19`	`Cope`	`ho hum`
`11:23.30`	`Cope`	`judaism's been deprecated.`
`11:23.38`	`wethrin`	`http://tinyurl.com/9vty8 - I think you'd enjoy this`
`11:23.42`	`wethrin`	`(it's quite worksafe)`
`11:23.50`	`wethrin`	`unless work disallows Google Groups`
`11:27.10`	`Cope`	`that's priceless`
`11:27.51`	`wethrin`	`Vacuum pockets!`
`11:29.13`	`George`	`blah.`
`11:29.31`	`George`	`moo.`
`11:47.34`	`rhowe`	`12:45 < wlfshmn> "how many programmers does it take to change a lightbulb?"`
`11:47.44`	`rhowe`	`12:46 < wlfshmn> None. It's a hardware problem!`
`11:52.42`	`Erwin`	`How may hardware engineers does it take? None, we'll fix it in software.`
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`13:12.10`	`JAV`	`afternoon`
`13:13.55`	`morsing`	`JAV!`
`13:16.11`	`mozrat`	`hey JAV`
`13:48.03`	`morsing`	`mozrat!`
`14:05.35`	`LeedsHK`	`Cope: you dissin' me and my tribe?`
`14:23.06`	`Leeds`	`http://www.geoexpat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5427 for anyone around`
`14:37.01`	`Cope`	`Leeds: thought of you on saturday, as I trudged around Brent Cross`
`14:37.25`	`Leeds`	`what were you doing up north?`
`14:37.32`	`Cope`	`visiting William`
`14:37.47`	`Leeds`	`ah`
`14:37.56`	`Leeds`	`how's he doing?`
`14:38.02`	`Cope`	`he's very nice`
`14:38.09`	`Leeds`	`for that matter, how are you doing?`
`14:49.44`	`\simon`	`fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!`
`15:22.46`	`mozrat`	`Hello Cope`
`15:39.17`	`mozrat`	`WOW - $GRUMPY_CLIENT who gave me a hard time on Friday just phoned to apologise`
`15:45.57`	`morsing`	`Cope: You shouldn't eat green stuff`
`15:49.44`	`Cope`	`green stuff is yummy`
`16:02.51`	`morsing`	`Disgusting`
`16:05.12`	`morsing`	`Leeds: My annoying norwegian colleague is asking how you did?`
`16:48.41`	`Leeds`	`how I did what?`
`17:39.30`	`George`	`I've just milked the school IT dept for all it's worth`
`17:39.51`	`George`	`only 200 more to go.`
`17:41.01`	`wethrin`	`hm?`
`17:43.51`	`George`	`linux world flyers`
`17:43.52`	`George`	`for KDE`
`17:43.57`	`George`	`or rather`
`17:44.00`	`George`	`KDE flyers for linux world :)`
`17:44.49`	`wethrin`	`ah`
`17:45.16`	`George`	`I probably wasn't allowed to print off that much`
`17:45.24`	`George`	`apparently the various departments aren't even allowed to do that many`
`17:45.35`	`wethrin`	`Ah well`
`17:45.57`	`George`	`but I see it this way... they use Linux for their server, so they can bloody well pay back to the community :)`
`17:46.03`	`wethrin`	`Aye`
`17:59.12`	`mozrat`	`eveningGeorge`
`17:59.16`	`George`	`heya mozrat`
`17:59.37`	`mozrat`	`hows you?`
`17:59.49`	`George`	`fine`
`18:00.00`	`George`	`wondering how I'm going to subtly print off another 200 flyers`
`18:00.20`	`mozrat`	`do it and to hell with the consequences`
`18:00.24`	`George`	`lol`
`18:00.32`	`George`	`the other thing is where to find the time`
`18:01.03`	`mozrat`	`life is for living and abusing your employers stationary budget`
`18:01.23`	`wethrin`	`<pedant>stationery</>`
`18:01.32`	`wethrin`	`Unless the budget doesn't move? :)`
`18:02.10`	`mozrat`	`ours decreases - does that count?`
`18:02.24`	`wethrin`	`Then it's not stationary`
`18:02.46`	`mozrat`	`:)`
`18:03.46`	`mozrat`	`arriveth the bus`
`18:04.35`	`mozrat`	`why do you get in a car but on a bus?`
`18:06.07`	`mozrat`	`anyway, hometime`
`18:06.11`	`mozrat`	`tt`
`18:06.15`	`wethrin`	`In a bus the floor tends to be higher than pavement height?`
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`18:33.35`	`new2unix`	`phew. thats a first. never had my box do that before.`
`18:33.37`	`new2unix`	`hi all`
`18:35.10`	`wethrin`	`hm?`
`18:37.20`	`new2unix`	`just got back from work to find i'd been rebooted.`
`18:38.59`	`new2unix`	`a power cut would have affected all the machines, besides power cuts dont reboot boxes. So the question remains... what happened?`
`18:39.50`	`wethrin`	`ah`
`18:42.40`	`\simon`	`incredible... i'm home`
`18:42.51`	`\simon`	`did you miss me?`
`18:45.44`	`wethrin`	`Were you gone?`
`18:47.16`	`\simon`	`work and then gym`
`18:48.02`	`\simon`	`12 hours away`
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`19:17.29`	`ebbeyes`	`hi`
`19:17.35`	`\simon`	`ebbeyes!!!!!!`
`19:17.58`	`ebbeyes`	`hello simon :)`
`19:18.14`	`ebbeyes`	`whos heading of to the expo?`
`19:19.07`	`ebbeyes`	`no one here?`
`19:20.06`	`wethrin`	`nope`
`19:20.34`	`ebbeyes`	`hi z00dax`
`19:20.37`	`z00dax`	`how'se eveyrone doing`
`19:20.38`	`z00dax`	`hey ebbeyes`
`19:20.48`	`ebbeyes`	`good thanks gettin ready for the expo`
`19:21.15`	`z00dax`	`ebbeyes: cool, where / what you doing there ?`
`19:21.49`	`ebbeyes`	`LPI and i booked 3 confrence places`
`19:22.08`	`ebbeyes`	`Apache php and ubuntu`
`19:22.29`	`George`	`ebbeyes: cool. I'll be there.`
`19:22.29`	`z00dax`	`I'll be there too`
`19:22.39`	`ebbeyes`	`great be nice to see ppl from here`
`19:22.47`	`George`	`so keep an eye out for a scruffy, scrawny bastard`
`19:22.49`	`George`	`in the KDE booth`
`19:23.05`	`ebbeyes`	`sure will`
`19:23.08`	`wethrin`	`Indeed. And also keep an eye out for a fat bastard, who is George`
`19:23.16`	`z00dax`	`lol`
`19:23.20`	`ebbeyes`	`lol`
`19:23.25`	`wethrin`	`IIRC the scruffy scrawny bastard is Jonathan Riddell`
`19:23.31`	`George`	`riddell won't be there`
`19:24.27`	`z00dax`	`well, I'll be at the CentOS booth....`
`19:24.44`	`ebbeyes`	`well i would of liked to go around the expo a bit i might reconsider the php talk`
`19:25.05`	`ebbeyes`	`they had all the good ones on dif dates`
`19:25.06`	`z00dax`	`new2unix: visiting?`
`19:25.36`	`George`	`well, KDE rocks.`
`19:25.38`	`George`	`so ner.`
`19:25.43`	`George`	`hugs konqi`
`19:26.21`	`ebbeyes`	`i rarely use kde whats good about it?`
`19:26.29`	`wethrin`	`Nothing, really :)`
`19:26.35`	`wethrin`	`Although the web browser is quite nice`
`19:26.43`	`ebbeyes`	`konkerer?`
`19:26.48`	`George`	`konqueror.`
`19:26.51`	`George`	`konq rocks.`
`19:26.55`	`George`	`gg: is so damned useful`
`19:27.08`	`ebbeyes`	`im fine just with gtk2`
`19:27.19`	`z00dax`	`whats wrong with elinks ? thats all the browser anyone really needs. everything else is just eyecandy`
`19:27.31`	`George`	`konqueror has kioslaves.`
`19:27.42`	`ebbeyes`	`i use links some times its great`
`19:27.57`	`George`	`and enhanced browsing`
`19:28.26`	`ebbeyes`	`;)`
`19:28.48`	`ebbeyes`	`well its great from a ssh session`
`19:29.50`	`ebbeyes`	`i like gnome if only it was faster`
`19:30.52`	`ebbeyes`	`will do`
`19:30.53`	`z00dax`	`Crowd @ the openbsd booth ?`
`19:30.55`	`z00dax`	`hummmm`
`19:31.07`	`z00dax`	`what _all_ the OpenBSD users, past and present will be there ?`
`19:31.52`	`new2unix`	`z00dax: haha. nah. crowd as in the entire village`
`19:32.01`	`z00dax`	`:)`
`19:32.15`	`z00dax`	`how many heading down to Lonix ?`
`19:32.17`	`ebbeyes`	`i will be with the other ricers at the gentoo stand`
`19:36.13`	`ebbeyes`	`free to come along?`
`19:44.06`	`ebbeyes`	`any one doing the LPI certificate?`
`19:44.16`	`z00dax`	`not me`
`19:45.23`	`ebbeyes`	`done it before?`
`19:45.32`	`ebbeyes`	`or any one done it before?`
`19:46.30`	`ebbeyes`	`im guessing it prob not gonna mean much still be nice to get it`
`19:46.47`	`ebbeyes`	`cheapest professional cert i seen`
`19:49.45`	`z00dax`	`I am not much of a cert whore actually, but should get something - might come in handy next time I am job hunting`
`19:51.06`	`ebbeyes`	`it been good learning all the manual ways of using linux`
`19:51.38`	`ebbeyes`	`and rpm and deb packages heh`
`19:51.41`	`new2unix`	`I think Wethrin did one a few years ago. Right, Wethrin?`
`19:53.07`	`z00dax`	`I have a CNE from about 6 years back, and some other cisco fluff from many years back... but i guess those dont count ....`
`19:53.30`	`z00dax`	`come to think of it, the CNE is from more than 6 years ago - more like 8 now`
`19:53.48`	`ebbeyes`	`at least cisco better then mcse :S`
`19:54.46`	`z00dax`	`the CNE = Novell certificate :)`
`19:54.53`	`ebbeyes`	`:)`
`19:54.59`	`ebbeyes`	`nice`
`19:55.22`	`z00dax`	`hey, people actually used it in those days....`
`19:56.07`	`ebbeyes`	`i remember it`
`19:56.16`	`z00dax`	`vaguely ...:)`
`19:58.16`	`wethrin`	`new2unix: One what?`
`19:58.28`	`new2unix`	`and now Novell have CLP and CLE`
`19:58.36`	`wethrin`	`I have an LPI`
`19:59.15`	`z00dax`	`new2unix: what does CLP stand for ?`
`19:59.30`	`new2unix`	`Certified Linux P`
`19:59.56`	`new2unix`	`Professional`
`20:00.05`	`z00dax`	`humm... so they take it upon themselves to say their certification process is authority for all of linux`
`20:00.27`	`z00dax`	`nice`
`20:00.28`	`ebbeyes`	`nice one wethrin`
`20:00.33`	`ebbeyes`	`is it worth it?`
`20:00.42`	`new2unix`	`head to head with Red Hat. Let the fun begin`
`20:01.13`	`mozrat`	`new2unix: How do people recognise you if you are on the OBSD stand?`
`20:01.49`	`ebbeyes`	`i dont know how do people recognise you at the OBSD stand?`
`20:02.15`	`mozrat`	`it wasn't some sort of joke requiring a punchline :)`
`20:02.42`	`ebbeyes`	`oh woops just seemed like it was goin that way`
`20:02.46`	`mozrat`	`:D`
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`20:03.04`	`mozrat`	`ja1!!`
`20:03.34`	`ebbeyes`	`hello ja1`
`20:04.11`	`mozrat`	`bye bye ja1 :(`
`20:05.48`	`new2unix`	`mozrat: Look out for the guy with the red socks and a twitch in his left eye.`
`20:06.02`	`wethrin`	`ebbeyes: I paid �20 for it`
`20:06.08`	`wethrin`	`Or maybe �25`
`20:06.09`	`wethrin`	`I'll never use it`
`20:08.29`	`ebbeyes`	`well it comes free for the conference delagets`
`20:08.38`	`ebbeyes`	`i figured be good to go to them talks`
`20:11.23`	`ebbeyes`	`you know any good linux qualifications?`
`20:13.35`	`ebbeyes`	`lots of that lpi is old :/`
`20:13.55`	`ebbeyes`	`brb`
`20:23.47`	`Blapto`	`Anybody got access to a high bandwidth UK connection?`
`20:24.20`	`mozrat`	`Blapto: in the morning yes`
`20:24.38`	`Blapto`	`Could you tell me what speeds you get from http://www.coreix.net/speedtest/100mb.bin`
`20:25.04`	`mozrat`	`Blapto: give me a while to finish this install and I'll VPN in and tell you`
`20:25.15`	`Blapto`	`cheers.`
`20:25.31`	`Blapto`	`It's meant to be the speedtest for a datacentre, I get 400KBps from my US based server.`
`20:28.02`	`\simon`	`is anyone of you going to the FUDCon?`
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`20:28.27`	`pawel`	`hyh.`
`20:28.33`	`Blapto`	`Hy`
`20:28.54`	`pawel`	`I haven't been here for ages.`
`20:29.25`	`pawel`	`is anyone going to olympia this week?`
`20:29.30`	`mozrat`	`\simon is that the same day as the expo this week?`
`20:29.34`	`mozrat`	`pawel yep`
`20:29.42`	`mozrat`	`and wb :)`
`20:30.27`	`pawel`	`is so sad that I have found out about the LPI exams, so I could be better prepared.`
`20:30.32`	`\simon`	`mozrat: i guess so`
`20:30.37`	`pawel`	`so late.`
`20:30.38`	`pawel`	`i mean. :)`
`20:31.00`	`mozrat`	`\simon, I think it is`
`20:31.08`	`mozrat`	`If I can get in for free I might have a look`
`20:31.22`	`\simon`	`mozrat: if i knew earlier i would have bought a ryanair ticket one month ago... not it's kind of expensive`
`20:31.55`	`\simon`	`s/not/now/`
`20:31.55`	`mozrat`	`\simon :(`
`20:31.59`	`mozrat`	`shame`
`20:32.18`	`mozrat`	`You could have GLLUG'd whilst you were here`
`20:32.31`	`\simon`	`wait i try a different city for departure`
`20:33.58`	`\simon`	`i found i cheap one... 175 Eu`
`20:34.57`	`mozrat`	`\simon unfortunately if you haven't got a ticket for the expo it's £15 on the door :(`
`20:35.03`	`mozrat`	`which sucks`
`20:35.18`	`mozrat`	`you should mail the list and see if there is anyone with a pass who cannot go`
`20:35.22`	`mozrat`	`if you come that is`
`20:35.38`	`pawel`	`are we having any social metting after the expo? pub?`
`20:35.41`	`\simon`	`15 gbp is not a problem`
`20:35.58`	`mozrat`	`pawel: Lonix!`
`20:36.47`	`mozrat`	`need to reboot bbiab`
`20:40.06`	`pawel`	`mozrat: where?`
`20:40.08`	`pawel`	`what time?`
`20:41.01`	`George`	`wtf`
`20:41.06`	`George`	`there's a GNOME UK developer with the same name as me.`
`20:41.28`	`pawel`	`George: sad.`
`20:41.49`	`pawel`	`George: take over his soul and make him change his name.`
`20:42.12`	`George`	`that's going to be weird`
`20:43.39`	`Blapto`	`I like pawel's idea actually.`
`20:43.45`	`mozrat`	`pawel: There was annoucement on the gllug mailing list today`
`20:43.47`	`mozrat`	`one sec`
`20:44.12`	`z00dax`	`Fudcon is on the 6th, just find you way there`
`20:44.31`	`mozrat`	`http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2005-October/055149.html`
`20:45.22`	`mozrat`	`George: is there a chance you have some strange mentalist problem where you pretend to be a KDE developer by day, but at night you actually write some code for the Gnome project?`
`20:45.32`	`George`	`mozrat: NO`
`20:45.41`	`mozrat`	`like Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde`
`20:46.05`	`mozrat`	`where Dr Jekyl pretends to be a KDE developer but Mr Hyde is an actual Gnome developer?`
`20:49.18`	`pawel`	`I don't know what to do, I don't like any of the available distros. :/`
`20:49.53`	`mozrat`	`pawel: Invent Pawlix`
`20:51.59`	`pawel`	`mozrat: first I need to win the lottery.`
`20:52.01`	`pawel`	`;>`
`20:52.16`	`pawel`	`so I can give up on my job.`
`20:52.36`	`pawel`	`spend some time in the front of my monitor.`
`20:54.12`	`pawel`	`eh...`
`20:55.43`	`mozrat`	`:)`
`20:56.28`	`mozrat`	`anyone played with gag?`
`20:56.31`	`mozrat`	`bootloader`
`21:00.21`	`pawel`	`I like simplicity of Slackware, artwork in Fedora, Ubuntu's philosophy, centralisation of FreeBSD and automatization in Knoppix.`
`21:02.02`	`*** join/#gllug ibot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt)`
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`21:03.32`	`mozrat`	`Sed-untu-ix`
`21:06.47`	`wethrin`	`pawel!`
`21:07.03`	`pawel`	`wethrin: yes Sir!`
`21:07.06`	`pawel`	`;>`
`21:07.17`	`wethrin`	`LTNS`
`21:07.20`	`wethrin`	`How's you?`
`21:08.38`	`pawel`	`wethrin: my life is changing, new flat, new place, got a car, nice holiday, passed CCNA, preparing for LPIC1 and A+.`
`21:08.47`	`wethrin`	`coool`
`21:08.58`	`wethrin`	`So it's all going well for you?`
`21:10.08`	`pawel`	`wethrin: kind of, still haven't got a full-time IT job, which sucks. few customers from time to time, I'm self-employed, but lack of the proper job/experience doesn't do any good to me.`
`21:10.16`	`wethrin`	`mm`
`21:10.22`	`wethrin`	`but certs are good then`
`21:12.00`	`pawel`	`i hope so, it costs me a lof of pain and time. ;>`
`21:12.06`	`pawel`	`doesn't sleep much.`
`21:12.12`	`wethrin`	`mm`
`21:12.18`	`pawel`	`red bull and coffee are my mates.`
`21:12.23`	`wethrin`	`hehe`
`21:13.05`	`Blapto`	`Red bull and vodka.`
`21:20.39`	`new2unix`	`does anyone know if AOL UK do wires only broadband? Some old couple i know decided to signup to AOL Broadband, bought themselves a wireless modem/router and want me to help fix together. Yikes`
`21:22.07`	`new2unix`	`She's a sweet old lady with a husband who's just discovered Ebay. God help her.`
`21:29.28`	`Blapto`	`I hope they've got a good pension fund :).`
`21:33.11`	`Blapto`	`"Support analyst George Ajo Porathoor has been assigned to your request. "`
`21:34.10`	`wethrin`	`Heh`
`21:40.29`	`rhowe`	`I left work... only an hour late.. I went to Tesco, came home, cooked dinner and watched some TV`
`21:42.10`	`Blapto`	`How unusual?`
`21:42.53`	`wethrin`	`He doesn't usually do that? :)`
`21:50.55`	`pawel`	`typical british would say.`
`21:51.31`	`pawel`	`rhowe: you forgot to add that you were watching East Enders. ;>`
`21:52.02`	`rhowe`	`pawel: Actually was watching the hairy guy thing`
`21:52.21`	`Blapto`	`Argh, George's script doesn't have a bit for "customer knows what the hell he's talking about"`
`21:53.35`	`rhowe`	`Blapto: Shouldn't be an issue in the real world :P`
`21:54.10`	`Blapto`	`I know :(. The HP SMARTd says it's failing, my data recovery tools say it's failing, HP's BIOS self test tool says it's failing.`
`21:54.39`	`Blapto`	`He still wants to go through the script.`
`21:55.32`	`pawel`	`rhowe: hairy guy? this sounds pervert.`
`21:55.33`	`pawel`	`;>`
`21:55.49`	`pawel`	`i don't wanna hear about it. ;>`
`21:55.56`	`rhowe`	`heh`
`21:56.21`	`pawel`	`rhowe: how are doing?`
`21:56.23`	`rhowe`	`Blapto: Oh, I thought you meant our George :P`
`21:56.31`	`George`	`fuck off.`
`21:56.34`	`rhowe`	`pawel: not so bad..`
`21:57.02`	`pawel`	`rhowe: we have found a decent flat, also in Barnet.`
`21:57.12`	`pawel`	`rhowe: I'm very happy with it.`
`21:57.21`	`Blapto`	`No, this George is almost as thick though. Says he needs to tick a load of boxes before he can authorise a pick up...`
`21:57.36`	`George`	`Blapto: you are in no position to call anyone thick.`
`21:57.51`	`Blapto`	`:)`
`22:04.37`	`mozrat`	`Hmm, installing gag wasn't as straightforward as I thought`
`22:04.45`	`mozrat`	`George: hello`
`22:05.35`	`Blapto`	`mozrat, is she sufficiently drugged?`
`22:05.53`	`mozrat`	`Blapto: and gagged, yes`
`22:05.58`	`George`	`hey mozrat`
`22:06.04`	`mozrat`	`but she can't boot OpenBSD as was my plan`
`22:06.59`	`Blapto`	`Tried NetBSD? That will worm its way in and boot without a bootloader. Probably boot on systems without CPUs ;)`
`22:07.14`	`mozrat`	`Blapto: just trying different stuff at the moment`
`22:07.17`	`wethrin`	`I needs a bootloader`
`22:07.20`	`wethrin`	`*It`
`22:07.32`	`mozrat`	`did have Solaris on there but I couldn't get what I need to work working`
`22:07.36`	`mozrat`	`i.e. vpn client`
`22:07.40`	`mozrat`	`and wireless`
`22:07.47`	`mozrat`	`and tsclient`
`22:11.24`	`ebbeyes`	`any one know good docs to learn debian package management ?`
`22:11.33`	`wethrin`	`man dpkg`
`22:13.52`	`ebbeyes`	`ok guess that good as a place as any`
`22:14.02`	`ebbeyes`	`thnx`
`22:16.32`	`rhowe`	`23:16 < rhowe> I probably couldn't be sure it was goat or pr0n`
`22:16.32`	`rhowe`	`23:16 <@Lion-O> fsck... that reminds me`
`22:16.33`	`rhowe`	`o.O`
`22:23.50`	`mozrat`	`Should someone change the topic bearing in mind the month?`
`22:24.34`	`wethrin`	`No :-P`
`22:24.39`	`*** mode/#gllug [+o wethrin] by ChanServ`
`22:25.02`	`wethrin`	`And most of that would be better server in channel info on joining`
`22:25.03`	`mozrat`	`"We hate George" is more concise`
`22:25.06`	`wethrin`	`:-)`
`22:25.25`	`George`	`fuck off`
`22:25.33`	`mozrat`	`:(`
`22:25.54`	`*** topic/#gllug by wethrin -> Greater London LUG. See us at the LinuxWorld Expo in Olympia this week!`
`22:26.22`	`mozrat`	`"George Lovers LUG"`
`22:29.31`	`George`	`moo`
`22:30.17`	`mozrat`	`George: What are you going to demonstrate at LWCE?`
`22:30.27`	`mozrat`	`Kubuntu? Anything special?`
`22:32.19`	`George`	`NX`
`22:32.25`	`mozrat`	`nice`
`22:32.30`	`George`	`being the kNX developer...`
`22:32.30`	`mozrat`	`you can show it to me then`
`22:40.04`	`mozrat`	`it doesn't`
`22:45.52`	`pawel`	`]8-P`
`22:46.10`	`wethrin`	`heh`
`22:46.49`	`pawel`	`wethrin: and what have you been up to?`
`22:47.01`	`wethrin`	`Writing, writing, writing`
`22:47.03`	`wethrin`	`And procrastinating`
`22:47.11`	`mozrat`	`makes you go blind that`
`22:47.28`	`pawel`	`wethrin: what are you writing?`
`22:50.23`	`wethrin`	`1st year report`
`23:03.38`	`George`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:03.40`	`George`	`woops.`
`23:03.56`	`wethrin`	`Ha`
`23:10.02`	`z00dax`	`hey guys, anyone know whats the deal with internet access @ LinuxWorld ?`
`23:12.26`	`new2unix`	`wifi access in the village and free internet kiosks elsewhere.`
`23:13.06`	`new2unix`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:13.32`	`z00dax`	`cool, is that free WiFi ?`
`23:13.46`	`z00dax`	`or is it a BT / T-Mobile hotspot orsomething`
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`23:18.28`	`*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG. See us at the LinuxWorld Expo in Olympia this week!`
`23:23.34`	`highbury`	`hi folks`
`23:24.08`	`highbury`	`is aanybody going to be able to join use on the GLLUG stand?`
`23:34.20`	`pawel`	`new2unix: the MAC should be registered uppon the registration on the website and free internet access should be an option and for security reasons you could provide your MAC and connection would be ready on the day of expo.`
`23:34.34`	`pawel`	`:>`
`23:34.58`	`pawel`	`this should be cool. :>`
`23:41.39`	`George`	`highbury: I'm going to be on the KDE stand, if that's any help ;)`
`23:41.44`	`George`	`(it probably is)`
`23:43.30`	`pawel`	`http://www.metro.waw.pl/grafika/tn/tn_wilson3_3_6.jpg`
`23:43.41`	`pawel`	`check this guys.`
`23:43.51`	`pawel`	`someone played too much quake?`
`23:43.51`	`pawel`	`:>`
`23:49.58`	`JAV`	`http://www.workspot.com/ --> linux desktop through a browser`
`23:58.09`	`mozrat`	`JAV, thats cool`

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