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00:06.18Leedszzzz
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00:13.59pawelLeeds: :>
00:14.09pawelLeeds: evening.
00:14.23pawelLeeds: how are you doing? how is your health?
00:14.31mozratLeeds!
00:17.28pawelok, time to sleep, have to wake up at 5.
00:17.45Leedsmorning all :-)
00:18.04pawelLeeds: where are you?
00:18.08pawel.il?
00:18.56pawel.hk? :>
00:21.48Leedspawel: living in .hk
00:23.43pawelLeeds: living? last time I spoke to you, you where going to live in .il.
00:23.57pawels/where/were/
00:25.52pawelanyway.
00:25.56pawelhave to go.
00:26.08highburyHappy New Year Leeds
00:32.38Leedshighbury: same
04:18.07new2unixmoin all
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05:53.00mozratHNY Leeds..
06:01.17new2unixmoin mozrat. new year was yesterday
06:01.48mozratoh
06:01.50mozrat:)
06:02.10mozratlate today
06:02.12new2unixwhy you up this early?
06:02.26mozratI'm usually up this early but not online
06:02.49new2unixsame here.
06:03.05mozratI'm usually out of the door by 0630 but made the mistake of sitting down in front of an already turned on laptop and looking at BBC news
06:03.21mozratand that was 33 minutes ago - ho hum
06:03.32new2unixwhats news?
06:03.59mozratnothing much - I was reading about "On this day" when an Israeli airliner crashed in Amsterdam
06:04.06new2unixnever mind. off you go. you have a journey ahead of you.
06:04.48mozrathttp://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/4/newsid_4617000/4617395.stm <<<< DONT CLICK IT, YOU'LL BE LATE FOR WORK
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06:05.24\simon'morningggggggggggg!
06:10.14new2unixmorning slash-simon
06:27.05\simonmorning new2unix
06:27.30\simonleaving for work. see you in 30 mins.
06:41.17mozratmoin simon
07:14.09*** join/#gllug George (i=george@kde/developer/gwright)
07:16.59\simonhere i am again
07:35.30wethrinmorning
07:55.05mozratmorning all
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08:00.11morsingHiya
08:00.15mozrathey
08:03.32mozratv. cool http://flickr.com/groups/infinite/pool/show/
08:27.59mozratRIP Ronnie Barker
08:28.03mozrat;(
08:28.06mozratsad
08:31.36gregj:(
08:36.46\simonmozrat: http://www.infinitecat.com/infinite/cat1.html
08:38.04mozrat\simon lol
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08:43.01morsingkbsingh!
08:45.46kbsinghmorsing!
09:19.55mozratwow - my colleague just managed to pour an entire cup of coffee into his laptop
09:20.10mozratthere is coffee pouring out of the case whilst he holds it up
09:20.13mozratimpressive!
09:54.19kbsinghmozrat, take pictures
09:55.57mozratkbsingh: I'm rather afraid of the reaction
09:56.07mozratI had to stifle a laugh when he held it up over his bin
09:56.11mozrathe wasn't very happy :D
09:56.21kbsinghinsurance claim ?
09:56.22mozratespecially when I asked if it was decaf or not
09:57.34kbsingh:D
09:57.51kbsinghsneak a picture or two, even if its from the mobile phone camera.
10:06.14mozrathttp://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2005/10/oregon-riaa-victim-fights-back-sues.html
10:07.21Erwin*yawn* Just stop pirating boring RIAA music and support independent artists. The problem will solve itself.
10:12.47rhowegrr
10:12.49rhowehttp://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=1783942#1783942
10:18.45Erwinin the tcpdump, there seem to be 2 connections though. In the first one, some of the data from the remote seems to be  sent, and then the connection is closed
10:26.02mozratHmmm, that was weird. Phone rang. Picked up and said hello. Confused lady on other end said "Hello, how can I help you?"
10:26.14mozratas if I was dialing her
10:26.19mozratmaybe she was a mentalist
10:27.43ErwinSupposedly it's fun to order two Chinese takeout places on two lines, order something on one line, and then let them speak to each other
10:28.15mozratlol
10:28.45rhoweErwin: It's the first that's puzzling me
10:28.55rhoweErwin: Although the second is a little confusing too..
10:29.18Erwinrhowe: well, in the first one some data *is* received in response to RETR, but which?
11:08.22mozrathey Leeds
11:08.32Leedsit's just past 7pm :-)
11:08.39mozratlol
11:08.49mozratdid you hear about Ronnie Barker :(
11:08.55Leedsand I think I sold a Mac laptop this afternoon to replace a PC desktop :-(
11:08.59Leedsy-y-y-y-yes :-(
11:09.10mozratvery sad. He was a legend
11:09.20Leedsuh, first :-( should be a :-)
11:09.27Leedssecond :-( should certainly be a :-(
11:10.45mozratI was trying to find the photo on Google of him in Porridge giving the V sign, but I couldn't see it
11:10.56mozratlying on his bed with a paper
11:12.52LeedsI know the shot you mean
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11:46.35mozratWould you generally agree storing the same piece of configuration data into 2 separate places is a bad idea?
11:46.50mozratso when you make a change in the GUI it writes the data into 2 files in different formats
11:47.34new2unixmozrat: who's the question for?
11:47.45mozratno-one I'm just ranting
11:47.54mozratApple OS X DNS configuration
11:48.01mozratwritten to /etc/resolv.conf
11:48.03mozratand also Your current IP address is 192.168.128.217
11:48.09mozrathmm, wait one
11:48.26mozrat/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist
11:48.53mozratso your list of DNS servers isn't easily changable via a script as you have to change it in 2 places
11:56.53Blaptomozrat, are you sure that preferences.plist doesn't build itself off of resolv.conf?  That's how it works on all other OS X.
11:58.21mozratBlapto: not according to what I'm reading
11:58.34mozratchanges made in the GUI are sent to the plist and then filter down to resolv.conf
11:58.43BlaptoStrange.
11:58.47mozrathttp://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050621051643993
11:58.59BlaptoFor most plists in OS X you can delete them with no ill effect, they just rebuild themselves.  It's common troubleshooting proceedure.
12:01.53mozratyeah, but that one particular file contains prefs for a lot more than networking
12:02.21mozratI have an example script for blowing away the DNS config now - it was in the comments to that page
12:03.02BlaptoI'm off, food
12:03.03Blaptobrb
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12:25.36mozratwhere do you work in .it \simon ?
12:27.00\simonlocation or company?
12:27.31\simoni work at Nethesis in Pesaro (PU)
12:29.57\simoni'm mainly involved in develop a custom linux distribution based on red hat enterprise and sme server
12:33.43kbsinghhumm
12:33.48kbsingh\simon, why ?
12:35.45\simonkbsingh: mainly to add new features to sme server
12:36.22\simonwe try to keep everything the same as much as we can adding new stuff
12:37.22Blaptoback
12:40.00kbsingh\simon, what kind of things are you adding ?
12:42.46\simonmail filtering spam/antivirus, openvpn, fax server, status reports (to our company servers), etc...
12:43.42mozrat\simon is that an internal project or will it be released?
12:43.52kbsinghso this is something that stays internal to your own orgnisation or is this for public consumption ?
12:44.00mozratkbsingh: SNAP!
12:44.07kbsingh:D
12:44.14\simonno they sell it to resellers
12:44.53kbsingh\simon, url ?
12:44.54\simonthey mainly sell the support on it and courses...
12:45.20\simonhttp://www.nethesis.it/default.php?t=site&pgid=7
12:45.54kbsinghhow about something that is in HTML
12:48.50\simonahah you're right i already complained
12:49.18kbsinghwell, I cant see it - am on a ppc64 machine....
12:50.17\simonthe site really doesnt say anything important
12:51.26kbsinghcan I download the distro somewhere ?
12:52.07\simonnot the modifications
12:52.25\simonyou can download the sme server in the sourceforge site
12:53.05kbsinghits the modifications that I am interested in - more from an academic interest than anything else.
12:53.17kbsinghbasically, what it is that you are doing
12:53.43\simonhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/smeserver
12:55.41\simoni create the script and everything else is necessary to build the configurations from a web interface
12:56.19\simoni suggest you to download sme server and give it a try
12:57.48\simonright now i'm backporting the spamassassin configuration panel to an our previous distribution version
12:58.32kbsinghok, so i dont understand
12:58.50kbsinghyou dont actually add any functionality to the smeserver distro, just create custom config's ?
12:59.04\simonok i'll do an example
13:00.17\simonsme server has not openvpn... we build an openvpn packet for it and we install it... now the web control panel is missing for it... we have to create and add the web control panel
13:00.27\simons/packet/package/
13:00.57\simona control panel where you can configure it
13:15.38kbsinghsure, but all this is open source right ?
13:15.51mozratIf I want to change a single line of a file with sed should I use a temporary file or some STDOUT redirection?
13:18.05ErwinGNU sed has a -i option now like perl
13:18.30Erwini.e. "in place": it implicitly applies your pattern, outputting to a temporary file then renames back
13:19.17mozratErwin: cool. Let me try that
13:19.37ErwinI prefer Perl, since you know what you get (you may have a solaris sed or whatever)
13:19.46mozrator OS X sed
13:33.27\simonkbsingh: not yet, some port of the project will be released as open source to the sme server
13:33.42\simons/port/part/
13:34.38\simonand many sme server bug fixes has been released as well
14:25.49morsingSolaris sucks
14:30.22mozratmorsing: Thank you
14:32.16morsingmozrat: What?
14:32.37mozratmorsing: I was trying to use it recently and had it all installed and I couldn't get much sense out of it
14:33.06mozratI'm very prepared to admit I don't know a lot about it but from what I saw I preferred other OS's to Solaris
15:32.55\simonmozrat: ahah today is the coffee day... someone here just spilled it all over a desk
15:33.05mozratgood stuff
15:33.34\simonno laptop injuried
15:34.15mozrat*phew*
15:34.28mozratmy colleagues laptop is foobar'd
15:43.42Leedswoo, wesnoth hit 1.0
15:44.35Leedsoh, and google office...
15:49.05mozratGoogle office is going to be big
15:49.07mozratIMO
15:59.35gregjLeeds: happy new year, so I heard
16:07.22Leedsgregj: thanks!
16:12.31mozratLeeds,. what is your paypal information?
16:12.49mozratI shall cross your palm with silver for that favour you did for me
16:13.10Leedsmozrat: paypal @ vmlinuz.org
16:13.29mozratLeeds: do you have a total amount?
16:13.31Leedsbut wait until I've sent them :-)  I forgot to take them into the office yesterday, and I was doing religious stuff all day today
16:13.37mozratsure
16:13.40rhoweheh, I just spent 50 quid on cable ties
16:13.58Leedsrhowe: so you look smart in your cable suits?
16:14.27rhoweLeeds: Why else?
16:15.42Leedsgood, good
16:17.29rhoweheh, a friend just bettered me - "i just spent 95quid on 25g of dust"
16:18.01mozratcrack?
16:18.33rhoweI suspect not - he's an atmospheric physicist
16:19.01mozratoh
16:19.29rhowe"optical reagent stuff"
16:19.32rhoweLSD?
17:22.53Blaptoerr, he got ripped off if it's LSD
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17:23.33jason_ukfsnhi all
17:23.34Blaptoleeds, link
17:23.43wethrinhi
17:23.56jason_ukfsnI've made up a leaflet for the Expo and would like opinions on whether it's any good.
17:23.56Blaptobut got a damn good deal if it's crack though.  Not that I know drug prices or anything...
17:24.21Leedscurrently listening to some nast on-hold music :-)
17:24.29wethrinjason_ukfsn: go on....
17:24.30LeedsBlapto: http://wcdata.sun.com/webcast/archives/VIP-2166/
17:25.01LeedsBlapto: it doesn't actually start until half past
17:25.20jason_ukfsnYou should be able to take a look at it via http://www.jasonclifford.com/fun/expo-2005.pdf
17:25.44jason_ukfsnIt's A5 in size so there are two copies on the A4 sheet to be cut
17:25.54Blapto1) ewww, realplayer.  2) "A general error has occured"
17:26.38LeedsBlapto: I'm not sure why, but realplayer seems to be working quite well here today... tried to connect with mplayer, but it was having none of it :-(
17:27.34wethrinjason_ukfsn: Anth is now in New Zealand
17:27.47Leedsjason_ukfsn: not sure asking people to 'join' is right... and it's possible there's too many references to beer/pub :-)
17:27.59Leedswethrin: not forgetting the Poles
17:28.02wethrinMm
17:28.12wethrinjason_ukfsn: Also, s/practicle/practical/
17:28.38jason_ukfsnwethrin - patch applied ;)
17:28.57wethrinAnd if you're going to mention the IRC channel on freenode, at least mention the channel :-)
17:29.47jason_ukfsnchannel mentioned now.
17:29.47wethrinOh, and the signoff is diferent on the two columns
17:30.09Leedswethrin: I considered it a test of initiative - could people translate from "GLLUG IRC channel on irc.freenode.net" to "#gllug@irc.freenode.net"
17:30.29wethrinWe could be #gllug-uk, though
17:30.39wethrinas gllug.org is the Greater Lansing LUG
17:30.39Leedsjason_ukfsn: maybe "join us at gllug" rather than "join gllug"
17:30.45Leedstrue
17:31.12jason_ukfsnOK, now the end reads "You can find out more and join us at GLLUG via our website at:"
17:31.34jason_ukfsnscrub the at on the end of that lot.
17:31.35LeedsI'd take out the second at
17:31.35wethrinHave you got it to look the same yet? :)
17:31.37Leedsright :-)
17:31.46jason_ukfsnyes
17:31.52wethrinOh, the website really needs updating :)
17:31.55Blaptonah, keep on getting generic real media errore
17:31.57wethrinIt looks *so* 2001
17:32.12jason_ukfsnI'm not doing the website. I have enough trouble with my own sites ;)
17:32.20wethrinThat, and the next regular meeting will not be 2 months ago or more
17:32.44Leedsjason_ukfsn: maybe we "use" stuff at wmin.ac rather than "hav[ing] access to"
17:33.24jason_ukfsnI'm intending to print off 250 or so of these. Once cut that gives 500 copies.
17:34.06wethrinWhat about: "Special offer for joining Gllug at the Expo - only £2 to become a member"? :)
17:34.07jason_ukfsnLeeds: now it says use
17:34.08Blaptoprobably too many people listening
17:34.25jason_ukfsnHow about "only three rounds in the pub after Expo to join"?
17:34.32\simonback!!!!!!
17:34.40wethrinGet money off the Suits
17:34.44Georgethey mis-spelt GLLUG :)
17:34.46Leedswebcast is annoyingly late
17:34.48Georgethe stand says
17:34.49wethrinUse it to fund the Gllug boozing habit
17:34.52George"GLUUG"
17:35.05wethrinGeorge: Pedantically, we are more of a UUG than a LUG
17:35.16Georgewethrin: yes, but we are GLLUG, not GLUUG
17:35.21wethrinLeeds: What's the webcast of?
17:35.23Georgeanyway, I've told them to fix it
17:35.24Leedsbut it's not like there is any competition with the real LUUG
17:35.28Leedswethrin: google office announcement
17:35.43Leedsit's started - someone is reading an arse-covering statement
17:35.48wethrinThat can be interpreted in two ways
17:35.55wethrinA physical building, or a software thing?
17:36.02Blaptosoftware
17:36.10Blaptoonline office suit.  Google meets openoffice.org
17:36.13wethrinAhhh
17:36.26jason_ukfsnbut will it be released as software as well as a service?
17:36.28wethrinSounds interesting. But how compatible is it with MSux?
17:36.38BlaptoI dunno, I'm trying to get onto the stream :D
17:36.46jason_ukfsnWho cares? MS will be breaking compatibility (again) soon anyway
17:37.04wethrinHrm. It's been almost 4 months since the last Gllug meeting. Something shoudl be done!
17:37.50Leedswethrin: to some extent, that's got to depend on people who are actually in London... :-)
17:37.51jason_ukfsnThere was supposed to be a meeting for the Ubuntu thing this month but it looks like it's fallen through. Sean is organising an installfest for November
17:38.02wethrinLeeds: And there's fewer and fewer of us? :)
17:38.18Blaptohttp://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/04/1234229&tid=102&tid=217 if you want to see other speculating about it.
17:38.31jason_ukfsnfar too many who are "not so near" - shouldn't be allowed.
17:38.36jason_ukfsnBTW - happy new year Leeds
17:38.44wethrinHeh. Installfests seem to be more of an excuse for "shit, we haven't had a meeting, let's just have an excuse for meeting up" rather than a meeting in itself
17:38.55Leedsjason_ukfsn: given that mark shuttleworth lives in London and seems a pretty community-oriented guy... someone should try to get him to gllug
17:38.57Leedsjason_ukfsn: thatnks
17:39.15wethrinLeeds: Happy new Academic Year! :)
17:39.22Leedshttp://www.sun.com/2005-1004/feature/
17:39.22jason_ukfsnDoes anyone know his contact details?
17:40.02Leedsjason_ukfsn: sabdfl@freenode.net :-)
17:41.31jason_ukfsnHas anyone been in contact with him before or does anyone know him personally? Better to have that kind of contact if possible.
17:42.08wethrinjason_ukfsn: I've found asking for talks doesn't require knowing someone personally
17:42.21Blaptobrb
17:42.29jason_ukfsnNo but getting them to accept email might do so.
17:42.40wethrinEh
17:42.58Leedswouldn't have thought it would be too hard to get a short note "we're gllug - Linux in London - let's talk" to him
17:43.13jason_ukfsnI'll fire off an email to him and see if he bites.
17:44.56jason_ukfsnHmm, looks like he has an assistant to handle initial contact. I'll give her a try first.
17:49.49jason_ukfsnhmm, mark lists public speaking as one of his dislikes on his website.
17:49.49mozratevening folks
17:50.36jason_ukfsnback in 15 minutes
17:50.40jason_ukfsn./away
17:50.52Leedsjason_ukfsn: then just get him to come along and hang out
17:56.45Leedsso the two announcements are effectively that sun will be distributing the google toolbar along with the jre... and that google will be buying (more) stuff from sun
17:56.54Leedsno google/ajax office...
17:57.03Leedsgone to q&a now
18:05.02Leedsscott's teeth are still scary
18:13.51jason_ukfsnso the whole Sun/Google announcement is a non-event
18:15.24Leedsyeah
18:16.04jason_ukfsnI don't want to be rude and suggest stupidity or madness so I'll keep quiet ;)
18:16.36Leedseh, it's not like I've got work in the morning
18:17.40Leedsthey're done not announcing very much
18:18.19jason_ukfsnwell I guess you can get some sleep then.
18:18.41Leedsthere was a very clear question from a journo asking if they were planning googleopenweboffice - Google dude said no, but the idea of an office suite was becoming less important anyway, blah blah
18:19.15jason_ukfsnthat's pretty much what they were saying last week
18:22.35Leedsnight all
18:22.47jason_ukfsngood night Leeds
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20:41.06Georgethe GLLUG notice was fixed
20:59.08mozrathello George
20:59.14Georgeheya mozrat
20:59.21mozratthe /topic?
20:59.38George?
20:59.44Georgeoh
20:59.44Georgeno
20:59.49mozrat21:41 < George> the GLLUG notice was fixed
20:59.51Georgethe notice on top of the GLLUG stall at LWCE
20:59.56mozratah
20:59.57Georgeit originally said GLUUG
21:00.04mozratyou've been down there today?
21:00.30Georgeyes
21:00.40Georgewas there for 4 hours
21:01.40mozratcool
21:02.24Georgeour stall kicks arse.
21:02.32mozrat:) explain
21:02.49Georgewe have a 19" lcd with a spectacular resolution of 1600x1200
21:02.52Georgeand a shuttle xpc
21:02.56Georgeand kubuntu
21:03.04Georgeand 200 full colour, double sided flyers
21:03.15Georgeoh, and our stall is colourful and pretty
21:03.18mozratnice
21:03.32mozratwho is manning it with you?
21:03.34Georgedrop by
21:03.39Georgeivor hewitt
21:03.46GeorgeI'll be demonstrating NX
21:03.55GeorgeI have acquired NX accounts on 4 different servers
21:04.03Georgean athlon xp 3000+ somewhere in germany I think
21:04.05mozratI might not be there tomorrow - definetely on Thurs
21:04.09Georgeand the other one is a POWER5
21:04.14mozratwill the WLAN be good enough?
21:04.30George10kB/s is good enough
21:08.02mozratany other good stalls there George ?
21:47.40Georgeno idea
21:47.50mozratoh
21:48.03mozratyou spent a long time thinking about it
21:56.29z00daxthere was no Wifi there today...
21:56.46z00daxVodafone gprs however, worked fine
22:03.45new2unixhi all.
22:03.57z00daxhey new2unix
22:04.08new2unixGeorge: What time you arriving there for?
22:04.18new2unixhi z00dax
22:06.43mozrathello all
22:07.10new2unixlQQk, its a moz rat. :)
22:07.39mozratyes!
22:07.53mozratI just jotted a short blog post that developed into a minisaga
22:07.58mozratfar too long
22:08.56new2unixmozrat: dont sound soo sad. I'm sure somebody will read it.
22:08.59new2unix:)
22:09.07mozratlol
22:14.05Georgenew2unix: around 8:30am
22:14.47new2unixGeorge: I aim to be there for 10am
22:15.11Georgenew2unix: are you exhibiting?
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22:15.36mozratufo - go to sleep
22:15.37new2unixhelping out on the OpenBSD booth.
22:16.00mozratnew2unix: Can I ask you a quick OBSD question? ....
22:16.22new2unixand probably drifing between the LONIX and GLLUG booths too. Taken the day off work to mingle.
22:16.26mozratis the limitation on installing OBSD within the first 8GB of a disk still a current limitation?
22:16.37mozratif you don't answer now I'll only ask again on thursday :)
22:17.47Georgenew2unix: heh, the openbsd booth fell apart
22:18.08Georgenew2unix: I leant on one of the poles in the AFFS booth, and the OpenBSD support fell off
22:18.12Georgebig metal thing.
22:18.16Georgewas quite lethal actually
22:19.20mozratGeorge: sabotage?
22:19.41Georgedunno
22:19.50Georgewe think it was an assassination attempt by the debian projet
22:20.15new2unixmozrat: I dont think so but i can check and get back to you.
22:21.50mozratnew2unix: No urgent worry, but if it comes up in conversation :)
22:24.23new2unixmozrat: so that you dont come asking difficult questions tomorrow, here's your answer: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=disklabel&apropos=0&sektion=8&manpath=OpenBSD+Current&arch=i386&format=html
22:24.37mozrat*click*
22:25.59new2unixmozrat: The b command in disklabel interactive editor is what youre looking for.
22:26.09Georgenite people
22:26.11Georgesleepy time
22:26.13Georgezzzzzz
22:26.24new2unixnite George:
22:26.31Georgenite ;)
22:26.59new2unixmozrat: now make sure you tip the booth slaves/delegates when you pass by.
22:27.07mozrat:)
22:27.13mozratnot tomorrow - thursday
22:27.18mozratso wear red socks both days
22:27.28mozratnn George
22:28.07new2unixOh. about the red socks... slight problem there. Well its just that... well I dont actually own a pair or red socks.
22:28.18mozratgah
22:28.29new2unixWould white socks do?
22:28.43mozratI'll just ask everyone their names shall I?
22:29.13mozratare you selling OBSD books there tomorrow?
22:30.35new2unixTshirts, CDs, taking orders for the Sharp zaurus running OBSD, Posters, yada yada yada.
22:30.49mozratCool
22:31.50new2unixOh and collecting freebies from bigger boys/delegates/marketing reps/etc
22:32.41new2unixNite all.
22:32.43mozratcatch you later
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23:25.53mozrathey highbury

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