00:19.48 | Leeds | well, all credit to pan - its been downloading all night |
00:26.35 | mozrat | moin Leeds |
00:26.53 | Leeds | morning |
00:30.24 | Leeds | oh, and par2++ |
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08:07.35 | Leeds | morning all... |
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09:31.36 | morsing | /home/morsing/documents/Henrik_Morsing_CV_newest.pdf |
09:31.43 | morsing | Aaargghhh..!!!! |
09:31.50 | mozrat | file not found |
09:31.55 | morsing | /home/morsing/documents/Henrik_Morsing_CV_newest.pdf |
09:31.59 | morsing | F*****! |
09:32.06 | mozrat | file still not found! |
09:32.17 | morsing | How do I change to black background in Gnome terminal?! |
09:32.36 | mozrat | Edit/Current Profile/ |
09:32.58 | mozrat | Colours/Built in schemes |
09:33.17 | morsing | Thanks |
09:34.00 | mozrat | np |
09:34.01 | mozrat | and |
09:34.03 | mozrat | morning! |
09:34.03 | morsing | How come Nagios says my host is down and that %71 of the pings are "undetermined"? |
09:34.14 | morsing | mozrat: Morning! :-) |
09:36.01 | mozrat | Not sure, morsing |
09:41.39 | mozrat | afk |
09:50.24 | George | is there a gllug meet this saturday? |
09:56.45 | Leeds | George: look at the topic |
09:58.04 | George | hrmm |
10:01.40 | eye69 | Morning |
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11:26.15 | morsing | Hey |
11:26.25 | morsing | morsing@suse:~ |
11:27.08 | murb | ssh morsing@suse "sudo /sbin/iptables -I OUTPUT -j DROP" |
11:27.09 | morsing | Where in KDE do I set X to listen incoming X sessions? |
11:27.20 | murb | morsing: you mean on tcp? |
11:27.51 | murb | find /etc/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep nolisten.tcp |
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12:45.16 | Leeds | mmm... takeaway veg'n'noodles |
12:48.33 | wethrin | hmm |
13:07.29 | mozrat | .... . .-.. .-.. --- .-.. . . -.. ... |
13:09.39 | wethrin | hello mozrat |
13:09.44 | Leeds | mmm... |
13:20.46 | mozrat | I used to be reasonably competent at morse code. Not any more though :( |
13:20.50 | mozrat | lack of practice |
13:22.22 | z00dax | mozrat, why ? HAM ? |
13:22.49 | mozrat | z00dax: Army |
13:23.01 | z00dax | ah, |
13:44.12 | morsing | mozrat: Should I always use "generic-service"? |
13:48.49 | mozrat | morsing: the settings in "generic-service" are normally good enough |
13:49.02 | mozrat | the time to change them is when you want to give some services higher priority than others |
13:49.13 | mozrat | for example check HTTP every 60 seconds |
13:49.18 | mozrat | check SSH every 5 minutes |
13:49.25 | mozrat | then you need 2 templates really |
13:49.45 | mozrat | we used "Gold", "Silver" and "Bronze" to class how important a service was |
13:50.20 | mozrat | bbiab |
13:59.52 | mozrat | back briefly |
14:00.09 | George | I'M FREEZING |
14:03.09 | mozrat | why? |
14:03.14 | George | because I am |
14:04.45 | Leeds | George: turn your aircon off |
14:04.58 | George | I don't have aircon at school |
14:05.54 | murb | George: why are you at school on sunday? |
14:05.58 | murb | isn't that rather dedicated? |
14:06.06 | George | I live here. |
14:06.55 | Leeds | murb: you'd never noticed that he boarded? |
14:07.45 | murb | Leeds: oh his parents love him so much they don't want to live with him, understandable i suppose. |
14:08.14 | Leeds | murb: plus it makes it easier for his boyfriend to get to him |
14:11.17 | George | murb: erm, actually, it was my decision to board |
14:12.13 | murb | George: So you pay the difference in fees? |
14:12.30 | George | no |
14:13.30 | Leeds | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4411810.stm |
14:24.38 | murb | so a goverment enforced monopoly on pressing CDs? |
14:24.53 | murb | seems a bit extreme. |
14:26.51 | Leeds | Malaysia isn't exactly a liberal democracy |
14:27.07 | morsing | mozrat: Why are the plugins binary? &*^(@+~_()*&* |
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14:31.58 | Leeds | evening Dad |
14:32.59 | ProperMadDad | Afternoon Leeds |
14:36.57 | George | amarok is sooo good |
14:38.28 | mozrat | morsing: hmm? |
14:38.32 | mozrat | some are Perl I think |
14:39.34 | mozrat | Leeds, (and other Wikipedia addicts) have a look at http://www.beerandspeech.org/index.php?/archives/53-Wikipedia-Loop.html |
14:41.37 | Leeds | morsing: just because I currently have 17 tabs open on wikipedia, doesn't make me an addict :-) |
14:41.48 | mozrat | :) |
14:42.11 | mozrat | I actually have morsings name highlighted in my irc client now just in case |
14:42.27 | Leeds | argh! |
14:42.28 | Leeds | sorry |
14:42.38 | mozrat | Leeds, if you have 17 tabs open already you should find it quite easy to get a Wikipedia Loop then |
14:45.02 | Leeds | true |
14:49.01 | Leeds | "I see my ex-girlfriends. Well, no such much see as... watch..." |
14:50.13 | mozrat | lol |
14:50.30 | Leeds | and boy, can pan eat RAM |
14:53.19 | mozrat | morsing: did you start to monitor some other services yet? |
14:55.32 | ProperMadDad | anyone any good with debin I have a problem with audio |
14:55.50 | ProperMadDad | debian |
14:56.41 | mozrat | ProperMadDad: I'm off out in a sec but first thing to do is get the output of `lspci' and `lsmod' and post them to pastebin.com |
14:57.02 | ProperMadDad | ok |
14:57.36 | Leeds | also, which kernel, which audio system, and what hardware |
14:57.42 | mozrat | so you can see which soundcard your system thinks you have and then which kernel module you should be loading |
14:57.46 | Leeds | and if it's there, ls -r /proc/asound |
14:58.04 | Leeds | sorry, -R |
14:58.35 | mozrat | and is it just some apps you don't get sound from? |
14:58.42 | ProperMadDad | mozrat same as |
14:58.56 | ProperMadDad | totem fine |
14:59.01 | mozrat | ahh |
14:59.21 | ProperMadDad | gnome-cd player just crashes and music Player |
14:59.48 | ProperMadDad | say's Could not create audio output |
14:59.58 | Leeds | I think intel8x0 is pretty common for onboard stuff |
15:00.06 | mozrat | aaa4 |
15:00.10 | mozrat | umm |
15:00.25 | mozrat | ProperMadDad: ps aux | grep esd ? |
15:00.30 | Leeds | ProperMadDad: is there /proc/asound/oss/sndstat ? |
15:00.32 | Leeds | ugh, esd |
15:00.52 | ProperMadDad | sound juicer rips fine |
15:02.04 | ProperMadDad | Leeds yes |
15:03.18 | Leeds | then it's just an application problem... |
15:04.08 | ProperMadDad | mozrat pa aux | grep esd should that give me an output |
15:04.25 | ProperMadDad | ps |
15:04.27 | mozrat | only if you are running the esd daemon which it looks like you aren't |
15:04.49 | mozrat | I was going to suggest looking for the esd module for $APPLICATION but that would be wrong |
15:07.53 | ProperMadDad | this is a fresh install last time it said something about /dev/esd ? |
15:08.50 | ProperMadDad | food |
15:09.02 | mozrat | Mmmm, food |
15:10.49 | morsing | mozrat: Yes, I've added http, https (which show an odd warning), smtp and ssh, |
15:10.53 | morsing | mozrat: Yes, I've added http, https (which show an odd warning), smtp and ssh. |
15:11.07 | ProperMadDad | the said to me would you like a bowl of soup and she gave me what amounts to a thimble full |
15:11.07 | morsing | Eh? |
15:11.14 | ProperMadDad | wife |
15:11.47 | morsing | mozrat: Next step is to run a client on the other server that can monitor disk space etc. |
15:12.59 | morsing | mozrat: What's a passive check? |
15:13.30 | mozrat | morsing: you can monitor disk space without a client AFAIK |
15:13.53 | mozrat | passive check..... can't remember |
15:15.50 | Leeds | okay, with a gig of RAM on a desktop machine, it shouldn't be thrashing |
15:16.51 | morsing | Leeds: Solaris? |
15:16.54 | morsing | Java? |
15:17.00 | Leeds | Linux, pan |
15:17.33 | Leeds | trying to display a newsgroup with almost 600000 messages |
15:20.14 | ProperMadDad | Leeds have a go at displaying a newsgroup with 3,000,000 messages |
15:21.05 | Leeds | thanks, but no :-) |
15:47.34 | Leeds | to give it credit, it got up to using about 1.3gig of virtual memory but it kept going :-) |
16:39.17 | morsing | Leeds: How are you? |
16:40.00 | Leeds | morsing: not bad... waiting for this download to complete so I can turn the PC off and go to bed... |
16:40.02 | Leeds | you? |
16:40.25 | morsing | Mmm... bed |
16:40.32 | morsing | I ok but no new job yet :-( |
16:42.33 | Leeds | hmm... |
16:44.39 | Leeds | have you been looking particularly hard? |
16:55.10 | morsing | Leeds: medium |
17:07.01 | George | I wholeheartedly recommend amarok to anyone who's looking for a decent music player |
17:07.33 | z00dax | whats wrong with xmms ? |
17:07.47 | George | z00dax: AAC |
17:07.56 | wethrin | Plugin? |
17:08.07 | George | it doesn't load tags correctly |
17:08.10 | z00dax | all my music is mp3 / ogg, and there is aac plugins for xmms |
17:08.22 | George | there is ONE aac plugin for xmms |
17:08.25 | George | which doesn't load tags properly |
17:08.36 | George | and xmms is dog slow when you're searching through 5000 track names |
17:08.44 | z00dax | I would not know, dont have a single piece of .aac music |
17:08.54 | George | it's .m4a ;) |
17:09.05 | z00dax | see ? I told you - dont know |
17:09.16 | Leeds | aac is actually a pretty decent format... and of course mplayer handles it quite happily |
17:09.17 | z00dax | I just use the filesystem and 'find' |
17:09.42 | George | Leeds: yeah, mplayer's fine with it |
17:21.21 | Leeds | heh... one of the downloads I've got going - a slow one - is a 200-track "best of the 90s" thing... the standard torrent client seems to put all the data in place as it arrives, then rearrange it to the right order later - and mp3 plays fine with a partial file... so if I try to play a particular track of the ones listed as downloaded, what I'm getting is a random collection of bits of 90s songs :-) |
17:26.08 | Leeds | anyway, download done and long past bedtime - g'night all |
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18:08.12 | morsing | George_! |
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19:10.34 | morsing | mozrat? |
19:15.54 | mozrat | yes! |
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19:16.47 | mozrat | hi highbury |
19:17.38 | morsing | mozrat: Is there a template for monitoring disk space somewhere? Is this done in services.cfg? |
19:17.51 | morsing | Hi highbury! |
19:17.57 | mozrat | yes, it's a check you can do |
19:21.02 | morsing | Would you still recommend centering it around a service, so diskspace-servers? |
19:21.30 | mozrat | No, I would create a group called nix-servers and then create checks that are relevant for all UNIX and Linux servers |
19:21.55 | mozrat | so you can have that group monitored for load, SSH, uptime, disk, CPU |
19:22.11 | mozrat | and adding a new UNIX server to that group means it gets monitored for all these things by default |
19:22.16 | morsing | Ok |
19:22.31 | morsing | How do I specify the flags to the check_disk plugin? |
19:23.05 | mozrat | OK |
19:23.11 | mozrat | you have 3 things |
19:23.19 | mozrat | the actual binary plugin |
19:23.28 | mozrat | which is /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_disk |
19:23.40 | mozrat | you have the check command definition |
19:23.56 | mozrat | which is /etc/nagios-plugins/config/disk.cfg |
19:24.09 | mozrat | and you have services.cfg where you assign the check to a group of servers |
19:24.16 | mozrat | brb |
19:25.51 | mozrat | shouldn't need to change those files too much |
19:26.13 | mozrat | are you monitoring Windows servers? |
19:27.22 | mozrat | anyway run `/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_disk --help' |
19:27.37 | mozrat | and you can see if you want to customise your check any more than the Debian packager |
19:28.05 | mozrat | the default for the disk check is just warning `-w' |
19:28.14 | mozrat | critical `-c' |
19:28.17 | mozrat | and -p |
19:28.19 | mozrat | umm |
19:28.32 | mozrat | partition |
19:28.57 | mozrat | so you could use check_disk!10%!5%!/usr |
19:33.21 | morsing | Nagios is fun :-) |
19:33.56 | mozrat | very |
19:34.03 | mozrat | is this for work or play morsing ? |
19:35.47 | morsing | Well, a bit of both. I've through 9 years helped my dad run all the IT stuff at the school where he teach. He's needed some monitoring since it's only a minor part time job for him to run the systems. |
19:36.20 | mozrat | right |
19:43.40 | morsing | ~seen eye69 |
19:43.44 | ibot | eye69 is currently on #debian (2d 12h 3m 5s) #gllug (2d 12h 3m 5s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 9h 42m 4s |
19:49.38 | mozrat | morsing: you see some of those plugins are written in Perl |
19:51.39 | morsing | Yes |
19:53.37 | morsing | mozrat: I've told it to run check_disk on hostgroup unix-servers but it's got them mixed up?! |
19:53.54 | mozrat | how so? |
19:54.08 | George | ello |
19:54.18 | morsing | The check for the local server is not available but the one for the remote show the values for the local system |
19:54.27 | morsing | George! |
19:54.41 | George | hi! |
19:55.03 | mozrat | morsing: heh |
19:55.11 | mozrat | did you completely stop and start nagios? |
19:55.33 | mozrat | and what if you run the plug manually from /usr/lib/nagios/plugins ? |
19:58.40 | morsing | I restarted it now and it show the same data for the two hosts which is sort of understandable |
19:59.30 | mozrat | what do you have in services.cfg for this check? |
19:59.53 | morsing | # Service definition |
19:59.53 | morsing | define service{ |
19:59.53 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
19:59.56 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
19:59.59 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.01 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.03 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.06 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.08 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.11 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.12 | mozrat | if you see different results from running the plugin manually to the console then you know there is a misconfiguration somewhere |
20:00.14 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.16 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.18 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.21 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.24 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.26 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
20:02.34 | morsing | The check_https plugin is missing |
20:03.34 | mozrat | have a look in /etc/nagios-plugins/config/http |
20:03.42 | mozrat | there are 3 or 4 checks defined there |
20:04.09 | mozrat | in services.cfg you would put just check_https |
20:05.18 | mozrat | it uses the same binary plugin with a different option. Good example of why you have these definition files in /etc/nagios-plugins/config |
20:32.00 | morsing | Why do I get "HTTP WARNING: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden |
20:32.10 | morsing | with check_https? |
20:34.16 | wethrin | Your permissions aren't quite right |
20:36.04 | mozrat | does it work in a browser? |
20:36.43 | mozrat | and is it a site requiring authorisation? |
20:37.58 | morsing | Hmm... In a browser it warns me about the missing certificate and then proceeds to a forbidden page |
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22:02.04 | armijn | evening. |
22:02.27 | wethrin | Hello, sir. |
22:02.36 | armijn | hi wethrin. |
22:02.50 | wethrin | Go to more Gllug meetings! |
22:03.34 | armijn | I've never been to one... |
22:04.17 | wethrin | Go to one, then! |
22:04.50 | armijn | there's one slight problem :) |
22:05.01 | wethrin | They're on Saturdays. Easy. |
22:06.48 | armijn | I'd have to travel... |
22:07.06 | wethrin | So would I. |
22:07.18 | armijn | wethrin: but you got a place to crash |
22:07.32 | wethrin | Yeah |
22:08.18 | armijn | wethrin: I don't :P |
22:08.38 | wethrin | Excuses! |
22:08.42 | wethrin | There are plenty of bridges! :) |
22:08.43 | armijn | good ones! |
22:08.50 | armijn | over the north sea? :S |
22:09.14 | wethrin | nah. We want to keep away from those strange foreign people |
22:09.48 | armijn | uh-huh...luckily it works both ways ;) |
22:11.38 | wethrin | heh |
22:15.15 | armijn | LinuxWorld NL this Wednesday and Thursday |
22:15.21 | wethrin | Yay? |
22:15.24 | armijn | meh |
22:15.31 | armijn | it's not that big |
22:15.50 | armijn | actually, if I wouldn't have to be there, I wouldn't go |
22:16.33 | armijn | the seminar program isn't that exciting |
22:17.11 | wethrin | Ahh |
22:17.13 | wethrin | okay |
22:27.12 | armijn | hm, UKUUG LISA conference... |
22:27.36 | wethrin | In Durham. YHes. |
22:28.13 | armijn | hm, closing date 23rd of december |
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22:31.02 | wethrin | mm |
22:36.08 | highbury | whoops. Just discovered I was running out of space in my root partition, a 2Gb kdeprint file in /tmp ! |
22:36.20 | armijn | nice |
22:36.51 | highbury | -rw-are--are-- 1 steve steve 2041058330 Nov 2 23:11 /tmp/kde-steve/kdeprint_2VPeDTTS |
22:36.53 | wethrin | d'oh! |
22:37.40 | Blissex | highbury: in a somewhat related point, I usually prefer '/tmp' to be a 'tmpfs' filesystem of a few hundred MB... |
22:38.54 | wethrin | Blissex: Then it couldn't fit a 2GB kdeprint job :) |
22:39.48 | highbury | fortunately it never printed either! |
22:40.27 | wethrin | :) |
22:41.50 | highbury | hmmm, interesting thought, it would be cool, if one could have just the most recent /tmp files cached into memory, after a while they migrate to disk. |
22:43.50 | armijn | not if those files need to be there, even after a reboot |
22:44.10 | armijn | well, maybe they should not be put in /tmp then |
22:44.19 | highbury | then they should have been put in /var/tmp |
22:44.31 | armijn | I cam across a pretty cool thing that Gigabyte put on the market |
22:44.33 | armijn | called i-RAM |
22:44.53 | armijn | some board, in which you can put DDR2 RAM, it has a battery and SATA interface |
22:45.08 | Blissex | armijn: the '/tmp' files are more or less guaranteed not to be needed after reboot... And indeed I use '/var/tmp' informally for stuff I want to keep for a while. |
22:45.09 | armijn | could be useful |
22:45.43 | highbury | I use ~/tmp |
22:46.15 | Blissex | Ah I use ~/tmp' for even less temporary stuff than in '/var/tmp' :-) |
22:46.54 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
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23:48.14 | mozrat | woo Leeds |
23:48.29 | mozrat | G'morning |
23:50.39 | Leeds | morning! |
23:52.29 | highbury | morning |
23:53.07 | highbury | oh! no! I feel tired because I'm just going to bed, not just getting out of it! |
23:54.25 | Leeds | yeah... think yourself lucky - it's *Monday Morning* here |
23:57.53 | Leeds | "YOU can tell that you're having a bad week in politics when your smartest move is to ask your own nominee to the Supreme Court to withdraw her name. You can tell that you're having a really bad week when the best news is that only one of your senior aides has been indicted." |