| 00:00.15 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:10.25 | wethrin | What about stationery wardriving? Where you make a chariot out of used pens? |
| 00:10.48 | mikejw | lol |
| 00:11.04 | mikejw | it could catch on :D |
| 00:11.12 | wethrin | Specially amongst students! |
| 00:11.21 | mikejw | :) |
| 00:12.04 | wethrin | Cheap bastards, the lot of them! :) |
| 00:12.20 | mikejw | tell me about it |
| 00:12.52 | wethrin | Well.....they complained about spending about £30/head on dinner on Saturday |
| 00:13.00 | wethrin | But only slightly, as it was fabulous |
| 00:13.49 | mikejw | oh really |
| 00:14.03 | mikejw | remind me of the event? |
| 00:14.12 | wethrin | I was in Edinburgh |
| 00:14.17 | mikejw | ahh |
| 00:14.28 | wethrin | Nominally with the Durham Uni Whisky Society, but most of them were too cheap to come along |
| 00:14.43 | wethrin | So I went with a couple of people; stayed with a friend there, and another guy joined us from St. Andrews |
| 00:14.49 | mikejw | nice |
| 00:14.58 | wethrin | Yup. Spent most of the time at the SMWS |
| 00:15.21 | mikejw | $wtf SMUS |
| 00:15.27 | mikejw | :) |
| 00:15.33 | wethrin | Scotch Malt Whisky Society |
| 00:15.37 | wethrin | www.smws.co.uk |
| 00:15.44 | mikejw | *SMWS |
| 00:15.55 | mikejw | wow that's dedication |
| 00:16.16 | wethrin | It has some damned fine whiskies! |
| 00:17.51 | mikejw | I notice there's a tasting event in London soon :) |
| 00:17.58 | wethrin | It's probably sold out |
| 00:18.02 | mikejw | ah |
| 00:18.06 | mikejw | oh well |
| 00:18.08 | wethrin | There's one in Durham this Friday |
| 00:21.14 | wethrin | I probably should investigate tickets for it |
| 00:21.22 | mikejw | bottoms up :) |
| 00:21.40 | wethrin | *hic* |
| 00:21.50 | wethrin | There's an SMWS branch in London |
| 00:22.03 | mikejw | could be handy |
| 00:22.42 | wethrin | indeed |
| 00:23.28 | wethrin | silly place is closed between the 23rd and the 4th, though |
| 00:24.18 | mikejw | otherwise ideal for xmas shopping maybe |
| 00:24.46 | mikejw | last minute style :) |
| 00:25.35 | wethrin | Eh. I'm going to be in Köln for that |
| 00:26.41 | mikejw | sorry yeah not that last minute |
| 00:27.34 | mikejw | I think I'd be better, with more money :) |
| 00:27.52 | wethrin | I wouldn't :) I still have no idea what to buy people |
| 00:28.27 | mikejw | iPod nano for Grandmother |
| 00:29.31 | mikejw | not much thought in that one, even if it wasn't totally unsuitable |
| 00:29.46 | wethrin | mm |
| 00:36.39 | mikejw | wethrin: you know those Planet thingies? |
| 00:37.58 | mikejw | as in the blog type |
| 00:38.17 | wethrin | vaguely |
| 00:39.08 | mikejw | I'm just wondering if an arbituary blog just needed for to follow certain syndication conventions in order to work with them |
| 00:39.32 | wethrin | I think it just gets RSS feeds, doesn't it? |
| 00:39.38 | mikejw | right :) |
| 00:40.54 | wethrin | Not sure, anyway |
| 00:40.59 | wethrin | Dean's the admin of Planet Gllug |
| 00:42.09 | mikejw | oh cool |
| 00:43.39 | mikejw | it would be nice to something similar for the CompSoc |
| 00:43.43 | mikejw | *do |
| 00:43.59 | wethrin | Yarr |
| 00:44.08 | wethrin | Or make them all join Gllug |
| 00:44.12 | wethrin | CUNT OF A FUCKING WEB BROWSER |
| 00:44.42 | mikejw | I was going to try and do that anyway :D |
| 00:44.53 | wethrin | good good |
| 00:45.10 | wethrin | And that people should ORGANISE SOCIAL THINGS |
| 00:45.32 | mikejw | any particular people? |
| 00:46.15 | wethrin | Yes. Ones who enjoy the company of geeks and want to do things socially |
| 00:46.29 | wethrin | Whether that's just going to a pub, or going to a TV/Radio recording |
| 00:47.43 | mikejw | I went to see a "TalkBack Production" last year with Anne Robinson |
| 00:48.14 | mikejw | I would have preferred HIGNFY tickets - maybe next time :) |
| 00:48.37 | mikejw | anyway, I must sleep |
| 00:48.43 | wethrin | night! |
| 00:48.49 | wethrin | Mmm. Pity I'm not around London any more |
| 00:49.02 | wethrin | Otherwise I'd spend far too much time in TV audiences :) |
| 00:49.02 | mikejw | are you coming to Novell? |
| 00:49.08 | mikejw | :D |
| 00:49.12 | wethrin | When's that? |
| 00:49.14 | wethrin | 17th? |
| 00:49.22 | mikejw | 10/12/2005 |
| 00:49.31 | mikejw | it seems |
| 00:49.35 | wethrin | Nope. Still up in Durham that time |
| 00:49.40 | wethrin | And got stuff on that day |
| 00:49.51 | mikejw | stuff stuff |
| 00:50.04 | wethrin | Concert things |
| 00:50.05 | mikejw | oh well hopefully see you soon irl style :) |
| 00:50.19 | George | night |
| 00:50.33 | wethrin | Indeed |
| 00:50.39 | wethrin | I'll be around between Christmas and New Year |
| 00:50.44 | wethrin | Plus a bit either side |
| 00:50.56 | wethrin | George: Shouldn't you be asleep? |
| 00:51.04 | wethrin | Or just keep an eye out on the Social list :) |
| 00:51.18 | mikejw | oh good idea :D |
| 00:51.48 | wethrin | But feel free to suggest otherwise - I'll probably call for booze on the 20th in the evening |
| 00:51.56 | wethrin | I think I'm arriving back into Waterloo around 6.30pm |
| 00:52.44 | mikejw | where do you usually call for this booze of yours? |
| 00:53.30 | mikejw | I gather somewhere quite central |
| 00:53.32 | wethrin | Central London |
| 00:53.37 | wethrin | It varies |
| 00:53.38 | mikejw | :) |
| 00:53.48 | wethrin | In the summer, it tends to be the Founders Arms |
| 00:54.01 | wethrin | Or the Bloomsbury |
| 00:54.08 | wethrin | Recently it's tended to be the Windmill |
| 00:54.18 | wethrin | Or, just suggest a better/different pub! |
| 00:54.35 | wethrin | Last times I asked for suggestions, no-one answered, so I just picked one I knew |
| 00:54.46 | mikejw | ok well you're in my WebCal, but I do have coursework due the next day :) |
| 00:55.11 | wethrin | Pah. Coursework's overrated! |
| 00:55.16 | wethrin | And probably easy :) |
| 00:55.33 | mikejw | lol |
| 00:55.38 | wethrin | Grr. I shouldn't still be up |
| 00:55.58 | mikejw | actually I was looking a week too far anyway |
| 00:56.11 | mikejw | ok I must go |
| 00:56.21 | wethrin | night! |
| 00:56.26 | mikejw | lol |
| 00:56.27 | mikejw | night |
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| 01:56.05 | gregj | any perl gods here ? |
| 01:56.15 | Leeds | not me |
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| 02:29.30 | Leeds | morning quinophe1 |
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| 03:17.09 | Leeds | ibot welcome back |
| 03:17.11 | ibot | back, Sup yo? |
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| 06:58.09 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 06:58.15 | Leeds | morsing: yes? |
| 06:58.21 | morsing | 'morning |
| 06:58.32 | morsing | What did you have for breakfast? |
| 06:58.56 | Leeds | weetabix and toast |
| 06:59.09 | morsing | Yuck |
| 06:59.18 | morsing | What are you working n now? |
| 06:59.38 | Leeds | making the edit form work for the CAP details (aka summary) page |
| 06:59.48 | Leeds | got a nice present this morning :-) |
| 07:00.29 | morsing | Leeds: Happy birthday! |
| 07:01.11 | Leeds | ordered up a new Dell 'server' (really just a PC with slightly above-average spec) to replace my existing PII-400/160MB/8GB cast-off server |
| 07:01.40 | morsing | Nice |
| 07:01.52 | Leeds | the new machine will of course be running headless, but being that it's a Dell PC, it came with a 19inch flat panel :-) |
| 07:01.55 | morsing | We have our annual staff surveys this week :-D |
| 07:02.20 | Leeds | meaning? |
| 07:02.29 | Leeds | anyway, so the panel is now running off my laptop |
| 07:02.42 | morsing | I can secretely moan about my manager :-) |
| 07:02.54 | morsing | Fantastic! |
| 07:03.49 | Leeds | ah, that sort of survey |
| 07:07.54 | morsing | When's the last time Matthew King came to a Gllug meet? |
| 07:08.59 | Leeds | whois Matthew King? |
| 07:09.06 | morsing | Exactly |
| 07:09.18 | morsing | He owes me a drink |
| 07:09.31 | morsing | He's quite active on the mailing list |
| 07:19.07 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 07:19.16 | Cope | morning |
| 07:19.21 | morsing | 'morning Cope |
| 07:19.30 | Cope | hiya |
| 07:19.34 | morsing | Thanks |
| 07:19.47 | Leeds | morning Cope |
| 07:19.54 | Cope | hello Leeds |
| 07:34.04 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 07:34.25 | Leeds | the boss is out, his wife is playing Solitaire, and half the guys in the office are playing around with cameras and lights |
| 08:11.42 | Cope | nice |
| 08:30.29 | morsing | 999959 and 999961 is a prime pair |
| 08:37.05 | Leeds | in theory, there should be a major new firefox release today, and a major new x.org release next week |
| 08:38.05 | mozrat | Morning chums |
| 08:38.38 | Leeds | hello mozrat |
| 08:41.34 | morsing | mozrat! |
| 08:41.39 | mozrat | hey hey! |
| 08:42.09 | Leeds | Hi everybody! |
| 08:42.19 | mozrat | morsing: as opposed to.... |
| 08:42.32 | mozrat | Hi Dr. Leeds! |
| 08:42.38 | morsing | mozrat: Showing 227 lines of green! |
| 08:42.45 | mozrat | ooh |
| 08:42.48 | morsing | Hiii Leeds! |
| 08:42.53 | mozrat | You want no news is good news! |
| 08:43.00 | morsing | Yes! |
| 08:44.31 | Leeds | http://countrystore.blogspot.com/2005/11/i-always-wanted-to-be-researcher.html |
| 08:45.24 | morsing | mozrat: And why are the cgis and plugins binary! Ggrrrrrr**** |
| 08:45.42 | mozrat | They aren't all binary |
| 08:45.50 | morsing | 90% |
| 08:45.56 | mozrat | performance I guess - it is doing a lot of work |
| 08:46.33 | morsing | mozrat: The status.cgi takes the parameter host=all |
| 08:49.38 | morsing | mozrat: Just found it! Don't know how I could miss it for so long! |
| 08:49.44 | mozrat | oh? |
| 08:50.05 | morsing | "Service problems" and "Host problems" do what I want |
| 08:50.59 | morsing | On "Service problems" the status.cgi has parameter "servicestatustypes=248" |
| 08:51.16 | morsing | I wonder if I can find a list of values |
| 08:52.04 | mozrat | Going to the Apple centre today to be indoctrinated |
| 08:52.11 | Leeds | fun |
| 08:52.14 | mozrat | into the ways of XServ and XSan |
| 08:52.18 | Leeds | mozrat: bring back toys! |
| 08:52.27 | mozrat | and to have my ear twisted by our account manager |
| 08:52.55 | mozrat | Leeds: yeah - loads of potential for freebies. In reality I've only ever come away with a small novelty torch |
| 08:53.03 | mozrat | with "Spotlight" on the side |
| 08:53.08 | mozrat | hardly a spotlight |
| 08:53.47 | mozrat | However - as my account manager loves me so much I wanted to get them to do a "Open source at Apple" talk for GLLUG |
| 08:53.54 | mozrat | so maybe I can make some progress there |
| 08:54.35 | mozrat | Leeds, I have Sundays Top Gear now by the ay |
| 08:54.36 | mozrat | wya |
| 08:54.39 | mozrat | w-a-y! |
| 09:00.15 | Leeds | me too |
| 09:00.21 | Leeds | top gear, not departing |
| 09:02.43 | morsing | What's 248 binary? |
| 09:03.20 | morsing | 11111000? |
| 09:06.05 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:06.37 | morsing | Hmm... Must be a special value |
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| 10:03.47 | Leeds | evening kbsingh |
| 10:04.01 | kbsingh | hi Leeds! |
| 10:12.07 | morsing | kbsingh! |
| 10:13.52 | kbsingh | morsing! |
| 10:24.07 | Leeds | time to get the fsck out of here |
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| 10:28.44 | mikejw | morning |
| 10:28.50 | kbsingh | morning mikejw |
| 10:37.42 | morsing | Mmm... Volvo |
| 11:05.22 | morsing | [hhmors@boo ~]$ yes | wc -l |
| 11:05.32 | wethrin | hm |
| 11:05.39 | morsing | Yo wethrin! |
| 11:05.44 | wethrin | whazzap! |
| 11:05.50 | morsing | How's Durham? Any snow yet? |
| 11:06.07 | wethrin | It was snowing yesterday, but didn't settle |
| 11:06.20 | morsing | btw I'll let you know the outcome of that command |
| 11:06.33 | morsing | Someone guess what it'll do? |
| 11:06.42 | wethrin | Infinite yes responses |
| 11:06.45 | wethrin | So it won't quit |
| 11:07.58 | morsing | wethrin: You think? ever? |
| 11:08.20 | wethrin | yah |
| 11:08.48 | wethrin | has yours quit? |
| 11:09.15 | morsing | wethrin: Not yet but I've never tried this before |
| 11:09.41 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 11:09.48 | wethrin | Why do you disagree? |
| 11:09.59 | highbury | ok what do I do with shedloads of old ACM magazines and journals (between 1981-1990) |
| 11:10.14 | wethrin | Offer them to the Gllug list |
| 11:10.20 | morsing | Because computers always have limitations |
| 11:10.22 | wethrin | ACM journals are often interesting |
| 11:10.32 | wethrin | morsing: So, how long would the following run for? |
| 11:10.38 | wethrin | for(;;) ; |
| 11:10.38 | wethrin | ? |
| 11:10.50 | highbury | oh there's some cool stuff there |
| 11:11.14 | highbury | but I'm not sure I've the space and time to fully catalog them |
| 11:11.29 | morsing | wethrin: Forever but that has no memory |
| 11:11.32 | wethrin | How big a shelf does it need? |
| 11:11.35 | highbury | I *finally* start my new job next week! |
| 11:11.45 | wethrin | morsing: Okay, so how much memory will the following need: |
| 11:11.53 | wethrin | for(;;) printf("Yes"); |
| 11:11.54 | wethrin | ? |
| 11:11.55 | highbury | about 4m |
| 11:11.57 | wethrin | highbury: Yay! |
| 11:12.05 | wethrin | Offer it to Gllug? |
| 11:12.23 | highbury | yeap, I'm just about to draft a message |
| 11:12.32 | morsing | wethrin: That still has no memory! |
| 11:12.49 | wethrin | Right.... |
| 11:12.58 | wethrin | I'm guessing wc will eventually wrap around |
| 11:13.05 | morsing | wethrin: You think? |
| 11:13.15 | highbury | just debating whether to use a spam address as an email address |
| 11:13.53 | highbury | wc might not like a very long line with no spaces or new lines |
| 11:13.58 | wethrin | OpenBSD uses a 64-bit integer |
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| 11:15.32 | morsing | A friend's sister's husband, who's a police officer, was involved in this chase: |
| 11:15.34 | morsing | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1895365,00.html |
| 11:15.35 | morsing | :-D |
| 11:16.03 | wethrin | morsing: Well....as far as I can see, wc will eventually wrap around after 2^63 lines, but it doesn't take memory |
| 11:16.30 | morsing | wethrin: Ok, so my experiment is no fun then |
| 11:16.37 | wethrin | sorry :) |
| 11:18.00 | morsing | How 'bout yes | sort |
| 11:18.17 | wethrin | don't know |
| 11:18.21 | morsing | :-) |
| 11:18.28 | wethrin | Chances are you'll run out of real memory :) |
| 11:23.51 | morsing | 26299 hhmors 25 0 30204 25m 560 R 98.1 2.6 5:35.08 sort |
| 11:24.41 | morsing | wethrin: beer |
| 11:25.11 | morsing | wethrin: In HW? |
| 11:28.15 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
| 11:28.17 | ibot | wethrin: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 11:28.28 | morsing | Ibot! You're back :-) |
| 11:46.10 | morsing | wethrin: sort is not increasing used memory |
| 11:50.08 | wethrin | morsing: what? |
| 11:50.21 | wethrin | I'm not in HW |
| 11:50.42 | morsing | 'k |
| 11:50.50 | wethrin | HW sucks |
| 11:50.57 | morsing | No it doesn't |
| 11:51.05 | morsing | Not as much as London anyway |
| 11:51.10 | wethrin | I like London |
| 11:51.39 | morsing | Really?! |
| 11:52.05 | wethrin | yes |
| 12:02.06 | wethrin | London++ |
| 12:27.06 | George | it is now my firm belief that sausagefugal forces exist |
| 12:30.24 | wethrin | okay |
| 12:31.10 | George | glad to know you agree |
| 12:31.59 | wethrin | Shouldn't you be in lessons or something? |
| 12:41.16 | morsing | George: Go away |
| 12:41.32 | morsing | wethrin: My breaking wc experiment failed |
| 12:41.52 | wethrin | heh |
| 12:42.03 | wethrin | Did it just not quit |
| 12:42.05 | wethrin | ? |
| 12:42.43 | morsing | wethrin: No - it wouldn't give up |
| 12:42.53 | morsing | Breaking sort didn't work either |
| 12:43.06 | morsing | beer |
| 12:43.08 | wethrin | heh |
| 12:44.01 | morsing | wethrin: I'll come to Durham on the 17/12 |
| 12:46.58 | morsing | wethrin?> |
| 12:48.59 | wethrin | I'm in Cologne then |
| 12:50.17 | morsing | Good |
| 12:50.41 | wethrin | So if you come up, then there won't be anyone to have beer with |
| 12:51.00 | morsing | wethrin: You're the only person living there? |
| 12:51.10 | morsing | Ok, how about 12/1? |
| 12:51.27 | morsing | And when's FOSDEM |
| 12:53.57 | wethrin | FOSDEM's the last weekend infeb. |
| 12:54.06 | wethrin | 12/1.....could be doable |
| 12:55.02 | morsing | wethrin: Will there be snow in Durham then? |
| 12:55.30 | wethrin | Heh. No idea |
| 12:55.46 | wethrin | Maybe, maybe not |
| 12:55.55 | wethrin | Last year there was a bit in February for a few days |
| 13:06.34 | morsing | *squeak* |
| 13:07.19 | wethrin | hm? |
| 13:14.24 | morsing | How do I run tcpdump to gather data for etherreal? |
| 13:15.54 | wethrin | Not sure |
| 13:21.33 | morsing | Check it! |
| 13:23.45 | wethrin | Look at the flags passed to it |
| 13:34.18 | morsing | beer |
| 13:34.25 | wethrin | for lunch? |
| 13:34.52 | morsing | Yes |
| 13:34.59 | morsing | And table football |
| 13:35.02 | wethrin | yay |
| 13:35.13 | morsing | I beat TwoSheds again :-) |
| 13:35.47 | wethrin | yay? |
| 13:43.27 | morsing | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5835456373&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 |
| 13:43.58 | wethrin | hm? |
| 13:44.04 | morsing | wethrin: ? |
| 13:44.09 | morsing | What'sup? |
| 13:53.12 | morsing | wethrin: Why? |
| 13:54.30 | wethrin | Don't know |
| 13:55.13 | morsing | wethrin: Where are you at the moment? |
| 13:55.25 | wethrin | In one of the cleanrooms in the Engineering department |
| 13:55.44 | morsing | What are you cleaning? |
| 13:56.32 | wethrin | I'm not. I'm measuring |
| 13:56.58 | wethrin | cleanroom = relatively dust-free environment |
| 14:05.07 | mozrat | good afternoon |
| 14:05.31 | mozrat | morsing: tcpdump -i eth0 -s 1500 -w somefilename.cap tcp port 110 |
| 14:05.33 | mozrat | for example |
| 14:07.39 | morsing | mozrat: Thanks |
| 14:07.44 | mozrat | np |
| 14:08.00 | morsing | mozrat: btw If learnt some interesting Nagios things while you've been away! |
| 14:08.07 | morsing | s/If/I/ |
| 14:08.08 | mozrat | oh yes? |
| 14:08.35 | morsing | The parameters to the cgi scripts are binary flags which can't enable things in the views |
| 14:08.45 | morsing | s/can't/can!/ |
| 14:09.28 | morsing | Except servicestatustypes=248 which is a special value |
| 14:10.28 | wethrin | uit |
| 14:10.34 | wethrin | Err what? |
| 14:10.38 | wethrin | I didn't type that! Honest! |
| 14:12.15 | morsing | wethrin: uit to you too! |
| 14:13.47 | wethrin | heh |
| 14:30.52 | mozrat | morsing: so what does 248 do for me? |
| 14:30.57 | mozrat | and what can I change it to? |
| 14:31.18 | morsing | 248 is "All problems" |
| 14:31.27 | morsing | 1 is pending |
| 14:31.34 | morsing | 2 is Ok |
| 14:31.43 | morsing | 4 is recovery |
| 14:32.03 | morsing | 8 is Warning |
| 14:32.27 | morsing | 16 is Unknown |
| 14:33.01 | morsing | So basically you just add up so 11 = "Pending|Ok|Warning" |
| 14:33.29 | morsing | You can do you same with "hoststatustypes" |
| 14:33.51 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi?host=all&servicestatustypes=11 |
| 14:34.26 | mozrat | cool |
| 14:34.52 | mozrat | just reading an email from a company that does *nix to AD products |
| 14:35.10 | mozrat | quote from Bill Hilf, head of MS open source and Linux lab |
| 14:35.19 | mozrat | "Getting authentication to work correctly with Active Directory is not simple," Hilf was quoted as saying. "It's often fragile and to do it in a broad way is a non-trivial technical task. |
| 14:35.26 | mozrat | ummmmm |
| 14:35.40 | mozrat | Well - *why* isn't it trivial if AD is so good? |
| 14:35.55 | SlayerXP | who said AD was good? |
| 14:36.07 | mozrat | Presumably a MS employee would say so |
| 14:36.12 | SlayerXP | NDS was shit, how could MS make a crap idea "good"? |
| 14:36.16 | mozrat | I'm surprised he said it was fragile |
| 14:36.39 | SlayerXP | NDS was, as best, badly broken |
| 14:37.14 | SlayerXP | hence you still have more netware 3.11/12 networks out there than the combined total of all subsequent versions |
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| 15:07.52 | morsing | Mmm... Patch panels |
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| 15:15.43 | mozrat | woo - Leds |
| 15:15.47 | mozrat | +e |
| 15:17.50 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 15:18.07 | Leeds | yes ,hello |
| 15:18.43 | morsing | beer |
| 15:20.48 | Leeds | wow... forecast to get really cold next week... 11/17 |
| 15:24.27 | mozrat | Terry Tate - Office Linebacker - 16Mb SFW |
| 15:24.28 | mozrat | http://beerandspeech.org/tmp/Terry%20Tate's%20World.wmv |
| 15:24.35 | mozrat | v. good :) |
| 15:35.00 | eye69 | mozrat: 403 |
| 15:36.23 | Leeds | eye69: that just makes it better - it's forbidden 'fruit' |
| 15:36.35 | eye69 | :) |
| 15:36.56 | eye69 | Well, I need to do some cleaning. |
| 15:40.25 | mozrat | eye69: one sec |
| 15:41.38 | mozrat | should work now |
| 15:46.01 | mozrat | I have a few more of them |
| 15:49.05 | Leeds | heh |
| 15:50.20 | eye69 | ~650k/s |
| 15:50.38 | mozrat | eye69: really? It's on Bytemarks servers |
| 15:50.54 | eye69 | Went up to 702 on the last bytes |
| 16:01.21 | morsing | Yo - check it! |
| 16:01.26 | morsing | eye69! |
| 16:08.15 | morsing | ibot poke eye69 |
| 16:08.17 | ibot | but then who will poke the pokers, morsing? new2unix? |
| 16:09.06 | eye69 | morsing: Hey |
| 16:09.13 | eye69 | I'm watching ER |
| 16:09.30 | Leeds | uh, what did the bot just say? :-) |
| 16:09.51 | Leeds | ibot poke morsing |
| 16:09.52 | ibot | but then who will poke the pokers, leeds? quinophex? |
| 16:10.02 | mozrat | ibot poke mozrat |
| 16:10.04 | ibot | but then who will poke the pokers, mozrat? quinophex? |
| 16:10.15 | mozrat | who's quinophex? |
| 16:10.19 | Leeds | wow |
| 16:10.29 | mozrat | and who's been hacking ibot?? |
| 16:10.33 | eye69 | ibot: poke leeds |
| 16:10.34 | ibot | but then who will poke the pokers, eye69? Tron_? |
| 16:10.56 | quinophex | mozrat: your evil twin |
| 16:11.13 | Leeds | the disk on our secondary MX machine is always filling up... spammers tend to try using it to get around our protection, but the two servers don't talk very well, so the rejected spam tends to get stuck on the secondary |
| 16:11.16 | mozrat | wow - a real live person!! I didn't see you there |
| 16:11.21 | mozrat | quinophex: who are you?? |
| 16:11.57 | quinophex | i work for Sony and SCO, looking for copyright violations as they occur |
| 16:12.06 | quinophex | oh, damn... broke cover |
| 16:12.07 | quinophex | damn |
| 16:12.09 | quinophex | ignore that ;) |
| 16:12.11 | Leeds | one of our users generates a stupid proportion of all our spam - and by extension, all our mail |
| 16:12.14 | mozrat | heehee |
| 16:12.24 | Leeds | quinophex: do you know Dave in the Utah office? |
| 16:12.40 | quinophex | i *am* Dave |
| 16:12.58 | mozrat | Leeds, we have an outsourced company that deals with the whole groups spam and virus filtering |
| 16:12.59 | quinophex | mozrat: if you search the gllug list for "quinophex" you will find my jabber id... |
| 16:13.06 | quinophex | and hence will find me :) |
| 16:13.17 | mozrat | there is one employee in the Far East that no-one knew about attracting 6,000 spams a day |
| 16:13.24 | Leeds | there appears to be over 18000 frozen mails on the secondary for that one user, over a 2 week period |
| 16:13.25 | mozrat | he didn't complain! |
| 16:13.42 | Leeds | quinophex: I actually have you on my gaim |
| 16:13.43 | mozrat | and now there is a sign in the London office of this company saying "Who is Jeff Wang?" |
| 16:13.46 | quinophex | Leeds: you do? |
| 16:14.06 | mozrat | the mystery person who is the group spam king |
| 16:14.07 | quinophex | Leeds: i don't appear to have you :) |
| 16:14.55 | mozrat | Ahh, your real name is more familiar :) |
| 16:15.11 | Leeds | quinophex: or at least I did |
| 16:15.17 | quinophex | mozrat: now, who are you? :) |
| 16:15.34 | mozrat | quinophex: search the mailing list :) |
| 16:15.42 | Leeds | argh |
| 16:15.46 | Leeds | alright, bedtime |
| 16:15.55 | mozrat | nn Leeds |
| 16:16.14 | quinophex | mozrat: aaah, yes |
| 16:16.57 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.27 | mozrat | what happened to quinophex.org then? |
| 16:18.07 | quinophex | what happened to it? |
| 16:18.38 | mozrat | oh - it didn't load just now |
| 16:19.14 | mozrat | works now |
| 16:19.19 | morsing | ibot morsing |
| 16:19.22 | ibot | you are probably a nice and very knowledgeable guy who often buys rounds of beer, or mozrat, or living in a virtual universe where AIX resembles Unix. |
| 16:19.42 | morsing | ibot has gone a bit more "intelligent" :-) |
| 16:19.46 | wethrin | Heh |
| 16:19.48 | morsing | ibot Leeds |
| 16:19.49 | ibot | i guess leeds is a bloke called Richard in the UK or spending too much time playing with expensive electronic toys or a genius or whatever you want him to be, or nekkid, or a place in the norf, or a rubbish footie team, or damn nearly bankrupt, or better than google. relegated :-(, or unemployed |
| 16:19.49 | Erwin | Apparently the automated underground annoucement about delays are "sorry" about delays of 5 minutes or less, "very sorry" for 5-30 minute delays and "extremely sorry" when it gets over that. |
| 16:20.30 | mozrat | Someone needs to unlock George's factoid |
| 16:20.39 | wethrin | ~george |
| 16:20.40 | ibot | from memory, george is gwright@kde.org and a KDE devel |
| 16:20.50 | Leeds | ibot Leeds is also making bras in the Far East |
| 16:20.51 | ibot | okay, Leeds |
| 16:21.11 | wethrin | So the rumours are that KDE 3-and-a-half has been released |
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| 16:21.20 | gregj | yes |
| 16:24.08 | mozrat | quinophex: cute baby btw :) |
| 16:24.15 | quinophex | she is |
| 16:24.17 | quinophex | bigger now |
| 16:24.26 | quinophex | i need to actually design the site |
| 16:24.49 | quinophex | when you get a new baby you don't tend to spend much time doing proper design ;) |
| 16:24.54 | mozrat | yeah |
| 16:25.06 | mozrat | or in fact... anything |
| 16:25.09 | quinophex | yup |
| 16:29.05 | ldnblk | is there anybody on channel that have set up wireless on centrino for both redhat and open suse ??? |
| 16:30.28 | highbury | I've done opensuse, but have had problems with WPA |
| 16:32.20 | ldnblk | oh hi there highbury I have checked to see weather the module is installed which it is but when i try to scan for networks it comes back to me saying that there were no networks found when I know there to be networks in the area |
| 16:32.44 | mozrat | ldnblk: with `iwlist scanning' ? |
| 16:33.32 | ldnblk | i've used that but that does not seem to pick up on hotspots in the area |
| 16:34.02 | mozrat | thats strange |
| 16:34.16 | ldnblk | is the iwlist meant to scan for access point in a certain area ?? |
| 16:34.19 | mozrat | iwconfig shows a wireless interface I guess? |
| 16:34.21 | ldnblk | mozrat ?? |
| 16:34.28 | mozrat | yeah |
| 16:35.57 | mozrat | ldnblk: what output does iwconfig give you? |
| 16:36.08 | ldnblk | ok i will try messing around with those 2 again later on to see if there is something that I have overlooked thanks mozrat |
| 16:40.00 | mozrat | np |
| 16:41.36 | highbury | I guess its too late to tell him to use Yast :-( |
| 16:42.14 | highbury | and KDE wifi configuration |
| 16:42.20 | mozrat | :) |
| 16:43.08 | highbury | then again with his Quasimodo of a laptop, all sorts of things usually go wrong |
| 16:43.12 | SlayerXP | or just use debian |
| 16:43.51 | mozrat | Debian - is there anything it cannot do? |
| 16:44.03 | highbury | he would either have to significantly drop or raise his intelligence quotient for that! |
| 16:44.10 | mozrat | Problems with your marriage? Use Debian! |
| 16:44.13 | SlayerXP | is sucks at running MS SQL server and Exchange |
| 16:44.23 | mozrat | Unrest in the Middle East? Debian is the answer |
| 16:44.29 | mozrat | That was the news according to SlayerXP :) |
| 16:45.36 | mozrat | Greasy Stain in your oven that JUST WON'T SHIFT? New Debian Sarge... |
| 16:45.41 | SlayerXP | I found "i've been using debian for longer than your distro has existed" to be a potent argument |
| 16:45.43 | mozrat | 8 out of 10 cats prefer it |
| 16:46.21 | highbury | and who can argue with one that releases as regularly |
| 16:47.38 | SlayerXP | highbury: software that doesn't change bar bug and security fixes in "doesn't change bar bug and security fixes" *SHOCKER* |
| 16:47.58 | skugg | mozrat: used to have those. Now i use Fairy Power Spray. that stuff is *scary*. |
| 16:48.21 | SlayerXP | queen in "RULES ENTIRE COUNTRY!" *outrage* |
| 16:48.21 | mozrat | skugg: :) |
| 16:49.28 | highbury | that fairy spray is cool!! Twice the price, half the life. It'll make a mint! |
| 16:49.55 | SlayerXP | i've no idea if zealotry was a word, it is now |
| 16:50.51 | skugg | bahahah |
| 16:51.12 | skugg | according to Dictionary.app on my powerbook zealotry is a derivative of zealot ;) |
| 16:51.24 | skugg | so yes, it appears acceptable |
| 16:52.59 | gregj | what the heck that word means |
| 16:53.14 | skugg | SlayerXP: would you say you have intolerance and contempt for those who do not agree that Debian is the best distro? |
| 16:53.41 | mozrat | skugg: I think sympathy might be another word |
| 16:53.52 | skugg | hm. so not *quite* a bigot then ;) |
| 16:56.14 | skugg | gregj: http://pastebot.nd.edu/747 |
| 16:57.05 | gregj | ok cheers |
| 16:57.20 | morsing | beer |
| 16:57.27 | SlayerXP | skugg: if you consult the list, you'll see I frequently express my dismay at the loss of life caused by people not using debian |
| 16:57.49 | SlayerXP | i.e. they waste fucking hours compiling stuff that would Just Work[tm] if they used debian |
| 16:58.16 | skugg | yeah. i was just soliciting your opinion. |
| 16:58.23 | skugg | i had you down as a zealot myself ;) |
| 16:59.33 | skugg | im from girlfriend: "I suggest you return with lasagne and loo roll tonight" |
| 16:59.34 | skugg | hmmm... |
| 16:59.34 | mozrat | so SlayerXP isn't an extremist then? |
| 16:59.47 | eye69 | skugg: Tough. |
| 16:59.50 | mozrat | skugg: are those 2 items related?? :) |
| 17:00.05 | skugg | mozrat: i hope not :/ |
| 17:08.14 | morsing | Mmm... Prune & bacon jam |
| 17:08.38 | mozrat | Please tell me you're joking |
| 17:09.28 | eye69 | Crazy danes |
| 17:10.00 | wethrin | heh |
| 17:10.19 | morsing | No - it's a welch speciality. Well, the prune wrapped in bacon bit |
| 17:21.02 | rhowe | wethrin: Going to FOSDEM next year? |
| 17:21.32 | wethrin | of course |
| 17:25.03 | wethrin | you? |
| 17:33.18 | wethrin | And my EHIC card arrived today |
| 17:43.17 | rhowe | nice |
| 17:43.20 | rhowe | Yeah, I'll be going |
| 17:43.28 | rhowe | Have to see if I can get out of paying for it |
| 17:45.49 | wethrin | Get work to pay? |
| 18:08.36 | George | wethrin: durhams's finally put my offer into UCAS |
| 18:09.01 | SlayerXP | "let the KDE weenie in, or we'll have to hear him whine for months" |
| 18:09.11 | George | no |
| 18:09.21 | George | "let the guy with the good grades in" |
| 18:09.25 | wethrin | yup |
| 18:11.13 | wethrin | Slayer :) |
| 18:11.34 | George | I shouldn't have asked |
| 18:12.10 | wethrin | You shouldn't have, no :) |
| 18:21.09 | rhowe | wethrin: That's the plan |
| 18:21.48 | wethrin | :) |
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| 19:05.36 | JAV | evening! |
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| 20:10.17 | wethrin | you suck |
| 20:12.22 | wethrin | :) |
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| 21:01.28 | stephanb | hello everybody |
| 21:01.50 | stephanb | is there a gimp-print irc channel somewhere ? |
| 21:30.27 | mozrat | stephanb have a look on irc.netsplit.de |
| 21:30.44 | mozrat | might be on the Gnome IRC server but I'm not sure |
| 21:31.35 | mozrat | ugh, expenses |
| 21:31.45 | mozrat | i never seem to come out on top |
| 21:32.11 | rhowe | €43.46 |
| 21:32.25 | rhowe | that's for 5 days :P |
| 21:32.32 | rhowe | last of the big spenders, that's me |
| 21:32.40 | mozrat | heh |
| 21:33.06 | rhowe | oh, mustn't forget the £4.50 commission the damn airport people charged me to change £80 |
| 21:33.10 | rhowe | I'd rather not pay that :) |
| 21:33.34 | ufo_ | hey mozrat |
| 21:33.52 | mozrat | hey ufo :) |
| 21:34.19 | mozrat | rhowe - where have you been to? |
| 21:34.34 | ufo_ | i found veru nice webpage today, after fighing with weakness of server on which rt is installed ... |
| 21:34.43 | rhowe | mozrat: Greece |
| 21:34.47 | ufo_ | mozrat: http://www.openntf.org |
| 21:34.56 | rhowe | Ah, that's more like it... £208.17 |
| 21:35.09 | mozrat | rhowe - i remember. i thought that was a holiday? |
| 21:35.12 | rhowe | mozrat: It was |
| 21:35.21 | mozrat | ufo, you mean the slow performance? |
| 21:35.36 | ufo_ | mozrat: yes |
| 21:35.44 | ufo_ | mozrat: look on ths project http://www.openntf.org/Projects/pmt.nsf/ProjectLookup/!!HELP!! |
| 21:35.51 | mozrat | rhowe - how are you claiming ex's then? |
| 21:36.12 | ufo_ | mozrat: And also settings troubles ... |
| 21:36.19 | mozrat | ufo, will later. i'm on my blackberry atm |
| 21:37.00 | stephanb | mozrat: i found their mailing list. gimp-print-devel. thanks |
| 21:37.59 | rhowe | mozrat: first 3, and last 2 days I was working |
| 21:38.10 | ufo_ | mozrat: !!HELP!! - Trouble Ticket / Helpdesk for ND 6 :D |
| 21:38.16 | rhowe | ibot change 200 usd to gbp |
| 21:38.31 | ufo_ | mozrat: And it's realy nice looking thing |
| 21:39.37 | rhowe | hm.. so the trip, from 14/11 for me (16/11 for Xiaoping) to 26/11 is going to have cost around £620 or so in total |
| 21:40.21 | rhowe | if I can get the refund for the hotel we cancelled, should be more like £510! |
| 21:40.45 | rhowe | oh.. hang on, forgot about another hotel :P |
| 21:41.05 | rhowe | £610 if we get the refund, £710 if we don't |
| 21:42.18 | ufo_ | mozrat is disconnected, I've just recieved sms ;] |
| 21:42.29 | ufo_ | that his ssh connection died |
| 21:44.37 | rhowe | heh |
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| 21:48.17 | mozrat | /me grumbles about shitty GPRS connections |
| 21:49.09 | mozrat | sorry - so where were we? rhowe is buying the drinks next time, and ufo... lotus notes?? |
| 21:51.07 | George | good king sausagelass went ou on the feast of sausages |
| 21:51.13 | George | s/ou/out/ |
| 21:51.20 | George | lalalala |
| 21:51.34 | mozrat | what? |
| 21:51.47 | George | dunno |
| 21:51.49 | George | don't ask |
| 21:52.19 | mozrat | I'm asking... |
| 21:52.34 | George | :P |
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| 21:55.51 | mozrat | woo Erwin! |
| 21:57.21 | George | !niwrE oow |
| 21:57.23 | wenceslao | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.54 | rhowe | BBC2 has "Grumpy old women at xmas" |
| 22:02.01 | rhowe | the male version was pretty good last year :) |
| 22:02.42 | mozrat | is it a film? |
| 22:03.26 | ufo_ | mozrat: No, still my thesis :( |
| 22:04.11 | mozrat | ufo, hmmm? |
| 22:04.29 | mozrat | is openntf.org something to do with Notes? |
| 22:04.53 | ufo_ | of course |
| 22:05.18 | mozrat | ah cool. |
| 22:05.23 | ufo_ | It's Lotus Notes and Domino Open Source Community |
| 22:05.38 | mozrat | cool - away for now |
| 22:05.40 | mozrat | laters |
| 22:05.43 | ufo_ | bye |
| 22:07.54 | Erwin | I want a Widows of Lotus Notes community: for the wifes of the programmers forced to use LN until they died from too much exposure to its most horrible interface |
| 22:27.12 | stephanb | Erwin: wanna start a Lotus Notes Poppy Appeal campaign ? |
| 22:29.18 | stephanb | o k everyboy. off 2 bed |=----| |
| 22:29.21 | stephanb | bye! |
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| 22:37.07 | George | gentoo almost finished :D |
| 22:37.08 | George | wooooo |
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| 22:59.22 | George | nice |
| 22:59.32 | George | "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 78850fc0" |
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| 23:27.37 | ldnblk | hi there mozrat how ya doing ?? |
| 23:27.58 | ldnblk | hi there leeds ru still in hongkong ? |
| 23:29.27 | Leeds | ldnblk: certainly am |
| 23:30.28 | ldnblk | so what time is it ? |
| 23:32.19 | George | nice |
| 23:32.32 | George | the gentoo-amd64 people can't come up with any effective arguments against running a 64-bit cpu in 32-bit mode |
| 23:32.43 | George | they're saying "ooh, but you're supporting the community by running it in 64-bit mode!" |
| 23:32.56 | George | and "you can just run 32-bit binary packages for stuff that isn't 64-bit clean" |
| 23:39.58 | ldnblk | i am still trying to configure open suse for wireless, when I run iwconfig It comes back with no extensions on lo,eth0,sit0 is this what u should normally see ??. any suggestions ?? |
| 23:42.16 | ldnblk | i am still trying to configure open suse for wireless, when I run iwconfig It comes back with no extensions on lo,eth0,sit0 is this what u should normally see ??. any suggestions ?? |
| 23:43.40 | ldnblk | i am still trying to configure open suse for wireless, when I run iwconfig It comes back with no extensions on lo,eth0,sit0 is this what u should normally see ??. any suggestions ?? |
| 23:45.48 | ldnblk | i am still trying to configure open suse for wireless, when I run iwconfig It comes back with no extensions on lo,eth0,sit0 is this what u should normally see ??. any suggestions ?? |
| 23:49.03 | George | shut up. |
| 23:49.21 | ldnblk | i am still trying to configure open suse for wireless, when I run iwconfig It comes back with no extensions on lo,eth0,sit0 is this what u should normally see ??. any suggestions ?? or does anyone know of a definitive website that would help me over the hurdle of configuring my wireless ?? |
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| 23:51.42 | ldnblk | i am still trying to configure open suse for wireless, when I run iwconfig It comes back with no extensions on lo,eth0,sit0 is this what u should normally see ??. any suggestions ?? or does anyone know of a definitive website that would help me over the hurdle of configuring my wireless ?? |
| 23:53.18 | ldnblk | lol |
| 23:53.23 | George | SHUT UP! |
| 23:53.25 | ldnblk | i am still trying to configure open suse for wireless, when I run iwconfig It comes back with no extensions on lo,eth0,sit0 is this what u should normally see ??. any suggestions ?? or does anyone know of a definitive website that would help me over the hurdle of configuring my wireless ?? |
| 23:53.28 | George | we heard you the first time |
| 23:53.29 | George | and the second |
| 23:53.35 | George | and the third, fourth, fifth and sixth times |
| 23:53.56 | George | oh, and the seventh |
| 23:55.40 | ldnblk | well I was thinking that I am the only one awake in the channel, or I might have stumbled into a microsoft channel accidently |
| 23:56.00 | highbury | any further repeats and you will be banned |
| 23:56.11 | highbury | ok, ldnblk? |
| 23:56.42 | highbury | you have to show patience or go elsewhere |
| 23:57.19 | ldnblk | ok highbury |
| 23:57.55 | highbury | we aren't all monitoring this channel 24/7, and sometimes those who are can't help, or unless you show a bit of patience, may become unwilling to help |
| 23:58.58 | highbury | with suse you shouldn't need to run raw iwconfig commands, you should be able to do it all from Yast or either the KDE or Gnome control centers |