irclog2html for #gllug on 20051204

00:06.10*** join/#gllug highbury (n=steve@81.170.24.121)
00:23.09Georgehey highbury
00:24.38Georgeinteresting
00:24.45GeorgeI've just noticed the pentium-m doesn't have sse3
00:24.46GeorgeI wonder why
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00:52.48mikejwlo
00:52.57mikejwibot: hey
00:52.58ibotwell, hey is almost for horses
00:53.09mikejwibot: help
00:57.23Leedsibot hello
00:57.24ibotHowdy Bub
00:58.16mikejwLeeds: hey :)
00:58.22mikejwibot: about
00:58.24ibothelp is probably /msg ibot help
00:58.41Leedsmorning
00:59.40mikejwhow's tricks?
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01:28.29Leedsit's alright... having a quiet weekend, but got a big dinner tomorrow (Monday) night
01:34.56mikejwoh yeah cool :)
01:46.39Leedsfor the past week or so I've been trying to download the current series (7 eps so far) of the West Wing, for a friend... getting the start of the season is easy, getting the latest stuff is easy - getting the middle ones is hard
01:47.03mikejw:S
01:47.05LeedsI'm up to 97.6% on the 3rd episode - when it's done, I've got all of them :-)
01:47.24mikejw:)
01:49.28Leedsand of course it's stopped
01:49.52LeedsI think what's happening is that I'm connecting to one peer, which is then connecting to a seed - but I can't see the seed
04:32.07Leedswhoa... h'night
04:32.12Leedsg
09:00.03morsing'morning all
09:05.19Leedsevening
09:20.54morsingHow are you?
09:23.30Leedshttp://www.nmpft.org.uk/insight/onexhib_cin.asp#louis
09:23.40Leedsnot bad at all... been out walking this afternoon
09:23.43Leedsyou?
09:25.34Leedsthat's 'walking' not 'marching'
09:27.11morsingWhy not marching?
09:27.31Leedshttp://simonworld.mu.nu/archives/140606.php
09:27.47Leedsand http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4496556.stm
09:29.07Leedsdecided that a) it's none of my business and b) I couldn't be bothered anyway
09:34.27Leedsoh, and I wore a jacket today for the first time since leaving the UK - in the pockets, I found two things: a plane ticket from London to Hong Kong, and my birth certificate, which I grabbed on the way out of the house in London because it seemed it might be useful at some point
09:42.40morsingNice
12:05.23wethrinhello
12:11.20Copehello wethrin
12:11.44wethrinhi Cope
12:11.53Copewhat's a good small, fun program I can use as an example of building something useful from source?
12:12.03wethrinfortune?
12:12.05CopeI was thinking 'fortune' but I've been unable to find  the src
12:12.09wethrinGMTA
12:12.55wethrinAhh. Umm....the RPM Spec file should say where to get the code from
12:17.52wethrinWhat about banner?
12:18.19wethrinThat's just a Makefile, C file and man page source
12:26.58Leedsthere's something called gfortune out there
12:27.48wethrin*blink*
12:27.59wethrinPlease don't say it's fortune with a GTK frontend?
12:28.19Leedsno, no
12:29.11wethrinOkay....
12:29.23wethrinIs it some hippy rewriting fortune just to have a GPL licence on it?
12:29.32wethrinErr, I mean, taking the exact source code and sticking a GPL on it
12:30.38Leeds"I liked BSD fortune, but I wanted a couple of extra features. Then I read it and didn't like it, and so I started up on a full rewrite."
12:30.49Leedshttp://www.anarres.org/projects/gfortune/
12:30.51wethrinerr.....extra features?
12:32.06wethrinThere is no hope for us! The world is full of idiots!
12:33.04wethrin:)
12:33.22Leedsunfortunately, it does not have an option to read mail, and is therefore incomplete
12:35.33CopeCompiling bsdgames on a dl380g4 is, erm, quick.
12:36.09morsingwethrin: Beer?
12:36.15Copebeer--
12:36.45Leedsibot change 1950 hkd to gbp
12:38.21Leedsprobably unnecessary to spend that on a large hard drive this evening...
12:47.22Leedsso... when did GNU tar become intelligent enough to not need the z or j options?
12:49.25Georgeif anyone particles I will punch them in the face
12:49.58CopeLeeds: unsure, but it does;
12:51.21GeorgeI want an algorithm for generating 9x9 magic squares
12:51.38Georgein fact
12:51.44GeorgeI want an algorithm for generating sudokus
12:51.52Georgewould be an interesting pre-interview project
12:52.00CopeGeorge: there's a python library for  the purpose
12:52.11GeorgeI don't care about that
12:52.19Georgewhat's the point in doing that?
12:52.22CopeI know, I just said it to annoy you
12:52.40Georgehaha
12:52.41Georgehahahahaha
12:52.44Leedsthere are many implementations of sudoku out there nowadays
12:52.55CopeGeorge: write it in asm
12:53.22GeorgeCope: that'd be funky
12:53.38Copeor do what I started doing, and didn't get round to finishing...
12:53.51Copewrite your own cpu, with its own asm
12:54.35Copemine only got as far as being able to add and subtract, but it was lots of fun
12:56.25Georgehehe
12:57.51GeorgeSTRANGER!
12:58.05LeedsCope: are you in a strange land?
12:58.24Copeunsure
12:58.26CopeI'm dead
12:58.38Leedssounds like a pretty strange land to me then
12:58.45Copeblame George
12:58.53CopeGeorge has a wifey?
12:59.42Georgewtf?
13:02.02gregjhttp://rotfl.pl/img.php?vote_for_husain_by_bloodlust.jpg
13:10.33ErwinGood thing they got rid of. Finally there is peace and prosperity in Iraq.
13:11.15ErwinIn fact the Iraqi newspapers are full of wonderful and uplifiting stories about it.
13:12.13GeorgeCope: I don't get it
13:12.40LeedsErwin: are you by some chance being sarcastic maybe?
13:15.21CopeGeorge: it was somewhat obscure
13:16.12GeorgeCope: ok...
13:19.11Leedsthis is of downloaded, not-yet-on-DVD-and-not-showing-in-HK-yet TV
13:19.35Erwin*sigh* all I have left in the fridge is spinach quiche, and no more alcohol, and the rest of the day I'm going to have to suffer coding something to super-vague specs to be done in 24 hours and managed by a clueless account manager
13:19.52wethrinreal programmers don't eat quiche
13:20.00wethrinTime to phone for a pizza!
13:20.31LeedsI had spinach pizza for lunch
13:21.06Copecheer up old chap :)
13:21.14ErwinSpinach on a pizza is indeed greatly underrated
13:22.25Copeeww
13:22.29ErwinI can't cheer up, I work with morons that will sell any science-fiction product for no money. It's closer to Dilber than I've ever been (OK, except the one time where my previous company was going broke, had a lot of hardware in stock we could well but couldn't beacause we didn't have any PAPER BOXES to put them in)
13:22.30Copenot v.tempting
13:22.57ErwinAnd why didn't we have any paper boxes? Because we just merged with another company and people were taking 6 months to decide on what kind of branding we should be using
13:23.15CopeErwin: yep, that sounds familiar actually
13:26.29ErwinWe have a flagship product that we sell ASP-manner, i.e. we do some work and then run their stuff on our system. But it seems salespeople insist on selling completely unrelated things. At one point they wanted to sell the Wiki-based intranet system I designed.
13:28.05CopeErwin: I am increasingly frustrated by salespeople.
13:29.06Leedshmm... for some reason, it's attempting 8x speed - I only asked for 4x
13:29.18Copeits keen
13:29.22Copeencourage it
13:30.08Coperight... i really must crack on otherwise these notes won't get finished in time.
13:30.25Cope(in a working fashion)
13:31.10wethrinSalespeople suck
13:32.18Leedsnow for the test... what happens when I put this disc into a standalone DVD player
13:39.08Leedsokay, two minor problems: a couple of the episodes (titles) have no sound for a few seconds at the start, and the time isn't counting correctly on the DVD player - but otherwise, this is pretty good
13:39.41Leedsmencoder to transcode from divx, dvdauthor to build the fs, mkisofs to build the image and growisofs to burn it...
13:41.53z00daxcool!
13:42.47z00daxI wonder whats the quality loss like from original DVD to DivX to DVD again
13:43.00Leedsthis is hdtv capture to divx to mpeg2
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13:43.38Leedsthe quality isn't stunning - I'm sure I could have improved it - I'm only using about 55% of the disk, for a start :-)
13:50.59Leedsit's not for my use anyway...
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14:13.32morsingMmm... Impact wrench
14:18.55Leedshmm... 2218 and I've not had dinner
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15:20.40Leedsah, what would I do if it weren't for George Formby and his wonderful grill
15:22.56Georgewhat would I do without nick highlighting
15:48.45Leedsfucking council tax
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15:56.42JAVgood afternoon
15:57.13Leedsalmost good night...
15:58.38JAVLeeds: how long are you going to stay in HK?
16:00.29Leedsindefinitely
16:01.19LeedsI don't plan on being here for good, but I also have no plans to leave
16:05.20Leedsbut I do have plans to go to bed... good night :-)
16:05.29JAVgood night!
16:53.55Copebah
16:56.52wethrinhello
16:57.02Copehello wethrin
16:57.10wethrinHi cope
16:57.13wethrinI have nettle tea
16:57.24CopeI have green tea with ginseng, and radio 3
16:57.34wethrinNice
16:57.41wethrinWhat's on R3?
16:57.59Copesome piano music at present - nothing I recognise
16:58.04wethrinI do have Hart-Davis on uktv history
17:00.08wethringo away, George
17:00.23George:'(
17:00.37wethrinThat attack was easily fended off
17:00.43Georgemeany
17:00.51wethrinNo, just not entirely well
17:02.06wethrinThanks :)
17:02.27wethrinYou are, acutally. The Nettle Tea I have now is one you sent me
17:02.39Cope:-D
17:03.58wethrinCope++
17:05.22Copeooh, handle now
17:05.27Copehandel?
17:06.13wethrinHandel
17:06.15wethrin:)
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17:19.36mikejwlo
17:49.26mozratevenin'
17:49.50Georgeanyone want Cope's 20" sun monitor?
17:49.54Georgeworks fine with SS5s
17:50.19Georgeand if you want a couple of ss5s to go with it, then fine
17:50.33Georgebut they won't have any RAM
17:50.41z00daxmy heating works fine,
17:51.02GeorgeI use my Athlon64 for heating purposes
17:51.08Georgethe 12 hard disks do very well at keeping my room hot
18:22.17wethrinDon't you want the monitor any more?
18:25.10Georgeit's too damn big
18:25.19GeorgeI'll go and buy a 13w3 -> VGA adaptor
18:29.00wethrinGet a VGA monitor with BNC inputs
18:29.07wethrinAnd get a 13w3->BNC cable
18:47.42GeorgeBNC?
18:47.45Georgeand no
18:47.50GeorgeI've got two 20" TFTs
18:47.51GeorgeI want to use those
18:48.17wethrinBNC
18:48.22wethrinBayonet Neill Concelman
18:48.31wethrinIt's a standard connector
18:50.47Georgewell, my LCDs don't have them
18:52.28wethrinMost LCDs don't
18:53.04Georgecare to donate me an LCD which does?
18:53.12wethrinI don't think any do
18:53.24highburycheck out LaCie ones
18:53.37Georgenot that I care
18:53.41highburybut I'd tend to agree with wethrin
18:53.46Georgebecause I'm not buying a new monitor for a Sun SPARCStation 5
18:53.58wethrinhighbury: LaCie make LCD displays?
18:54.05Georgeyes
18:54.09Georgeiirc
18:54.09highburyvery high quality ones
18:54.50highburyused heavily in design, come complete with colour calibration meters, and light cowls
18:55.31wethrinoooh
19:05.39ErwinI want one of those Apple 30" widescreens :( Finally, I can see all my 470 charcter-long lines of code without word wrapping.
19:10.23wethrinUmm....use shorter lines
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19:30.49resuDaedevening
19:31.23resuDaedslightly OT question, can anyone think of any modern day uses for bronze
19:32.12resuDaedit was considered very good for inventing ways to kill people 2-5000 years ago, but I can't find anything it is used for now
19:33.16wethrinStatues?
19:33.25wethrincoins?
19:33.36resuDaedah, coins
19:34.06resuDaedbut none in reference to anything engineering (other than engineers making money) say
19:34.52resuDaedI am writing about copper alloys, very boring
19:35.17resuDaedI have to make a presentation about copper tomorrow afternoon
19:35.46resuDaedibot seen clyphox
19:35.47ibotclyphox <n=clyphox@82-35-127-97.cable.ubr01.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 44d 23h 2m 48s ago, saying: 'I want a TCP/IP enabled vacum cleaner!'.
19:41.34wethrincopper's used a lot
19:41.41wethrinWhy're you making a presentation about copper?
19:42.34resuDaed25% of my module on materials science is based on a presentation that I havce to give tomorrow
19:43.01resuDaedwe were all given different metals (probably to reduce plaigarism)
19:43.33wethrinahh
19:43.42wethrinwhat've you got on copper so far?
19:44.17resuDaedchemical properties and ore extraction, now doing uses of it and its alloys
19:45.40resuDaedshould have done this 3 weeks ago, but it coincided with mid semester exams for 2 other modules, 3 other assignments and a lot of socialising
19:45.53resuDaedand my gf coming to visit twice
19:46.00wethrinHehe
19:46.06wethrinPlenty of time, still
19:46.35resuDaedI got 85% and 87.5% on the exams, and 95%, 94% and 100% on the assignemnts
19:47.07wethrinDoesn't sound like a problem, then
19:47.10resuDaedso am pretty pleased at the moment
19:47.54wethrinGood good
19:47.57resuDaedI need to average 80% at the end of the year to get progess on to an MEng and a sponsorship
19:49.05resuDaedit is very important financially that I do that, as I will get a well paid job while at uni, as well as a grant for doing an MEng and money for mbeing a mature student
19:49.19resuDaedat the moment, I am nearlly broke
19:51.27wethrinAhh....how much do you need for an MEng without sponsorship?
19:51.36wethrinmature? Student? Hahahaha :)
19:51.52resuDaedsame, 80% ... and I am not allowed *any* referals
19:52.06wethrinThat seems quite harsh
19:53.41resuDaedout of the 65 people starting this year (prep year), 40% will drop out or fail, and propably a lot less than 10% will make the marks for the MEng progression (I think is the equivilant of ABB at A-level)
19:54.12wethrinAhh - are you pre-1st-year?
19:54.57resuDaedyes :-( they wouldn't let me straight on to the course with no a-levels, I have a friend who has a degree in forensic engineering who isn't qualified to go stright in to the degree
19:55.32resuDaedout of those a-levels, you need maths and physics to progess with out doing a prep year
19:56.59wethrinright
19:57.07wethrinokay, that makes sense, then
19:57.56resuDaedbut my weighted average is 92% at them moment, so I am fairly safe for the time being
19:58.45resuDaed(if not a little big headed most of the time:-)
19:59.36wethrinHeh :)
20:01.41CoperesuDaed: dave's on nights tue, wed, thu, fri
20:02.34wethrinAha. Top Gear
20:03.10resuDaedCope : but hasnt appeared on gllug for 44 days?
20:03.30CoperesuDaed: no... lest he get sacked
20:03.39resuDaedlol
20:04.05wethrin!!
20:04.09wethrinThat seems.....harsh
20:04.12Copeyes
20:04.23wethrinIRC can be a very useful troubleshooting tool; indeed, I have used it as such
20:04.25Copemassive cocks international are into undermining morale and generally being cunts
20:04.32wethrin:(
20:04.41GeorgeCope: ?
20:04.41wethrinSo it's full of fucking suits?
20:04.56Copewethrin: mci is yes, and stupid inflexible rules
20:05.18wethrinblah :-/
20:05.19Copei'm able to bend the rules... I have a linux machine, some test boxes, and flexibility
20:05.31Copethat may be due to seniority / reputation... dave's not so lucky
20:06.04Copedave has a windows laptop without admin rights.
20:06.07Copeand that's it.
20:06.21wethrinSurely happy-clappy happy-employee-is-productive-employee has gone through their suitism, no?
20:06.24wethrinick
20:06.33Copehe could ssh to somewhere, but the shoulder surfers would probably complain
20:06.54Copewethrin: no apparently mci have no understanding of employee morale
20:07.03wethrincunts
20:07.05Copenb I refer to mci
20:07.14Copeold digex is still ok... but restricted
20:07.17wethrinSure
20:12.46resuDaedcan anyone think of any uses for brass (outside of locks, fittings, money and musucal instruments)
20:13.15Copemonkeys
20:13.51CoperesuDaed: I imagine the collective knowledge of #gllug with respect to the uses of brass is significantly less than that of google.
20:14.11wethrinOr wikipedia
20:14.15Copefurthermore, the #gllug interface is somewhat slower
20:14.18ErwinIf it were bras rather than brass, however
20:14.46resuDaedCope wethrin : google and wikipedia have come up dry(ish)
20:15.00wethrinThen Leeds is your man
20:15.10wethrinCope: I don't know....wikipedia's been quite slow recently
20:15.19resuDaedI cannot find any uses for brass in engineering, yet there must be some
20:15.29Copewethrin: true; serves  them right for hosting it on linux
20:15.35wethrinHeh Indeed
20:15.46wethrinresuDaed: No - it's been replaced with better materials
20:15.51Copecotton
20:15.54Copenylon
20:16.58CoperesuDaed: googling for uses of brass turns up loads of stuff
20:17.04Copeor have you already mined it all?
20:17.37Copelikewise googling for 'brass industry'
20:19.17resuDaedCope : mined the former
20:20.24mikejw...and applies new knowledge to irc://irc.quakenet.org:tutorial for the benefit of irc newbies
20:22.09resuDaedoh, and just to make my uni work more difficult, I have just aqquired a copy of C&C generals
20:25.04Copeerror
20:28.00wethrinerror?
20:29.58Copeobtaining an addictive computer game
20:30.15CopeI would describe that as a fairly significant tactical blunder
20:30.42mikejw:)
20:31.24wethrinAhha. Yes.
20:31.27resuDaedCope : yes, especially when it means I have to reboot in to windows to use it, and all my uni work is stored on xfs
20:31.54wethrinheh
20:31.57CoperesuDaed: and backed up, I hope.
20:32.41resuDaedyes, backed on to another machine, then a tarball is scp'd to a computer in london
20:33.20resuDaedand I keep a copy on my external usb hdd that I take in to uni
20:34.08resuDaednot that I very often use the computers at uni
20:35.02resuDaedwe have hundreds of winXP workstations (all P4s) that the only use I can find for them is to check my emails
20:36.43mikejwresuDaed: which Uni?
20:37.17mikejwit sounds like mine
20:38.55mikejwthen again, Windows XP / P4s are quite ubiquitous I guess
20:40.13wethrinAt UCL, I used a lab full of Suns
20:40.31Copei only ever used sgis and suns at uni
20:40.39resuDaedmikejw : SHU (sheffield hallam)
20:40.41Copeoh and wyse terminals
20:41.13Copeand ermine.ox.ac.uk
20:41.22mikejwrsesuDaed: ah ok
20:41.41mikejwoh yeah we have a Solaris network too
20:41.43resuDaedthere is one workstation in a certain tutors office that hasn't been updated for 3 years, and is null and void of the printer credit system)
20:42.14resuDaedour back end is almost entirly sun/linux
20:42.32Copepeachy!
20:42.36mikejwlol
20:42.51resuDaedbut the only front end that is not, is about a dozen workstations in the basement of the basement in the school of engineering, and are for research students only
20:43.10Copehrm, disappointing.
20:43.16resuDaedCope : do you mind, that is something between my and my gf
20:43.41resuDaedlol
20:43.42highburyresuDaed: brass used to be used a lot before steel, its easy to cut a thread into it
20:43.43mikejwresuDaed: does this frontend run linux?
20:43.54resuDaedmikejw : afaik
20:44.01mikejwbonus
20:44.07mikejw:)
20:44.18highburyof course lots of fitting screws, nuts etc are brass
20:44.25resuDaedhighbury : cheers
20:44.30wethrinCope: They decomissioned Sable and Ermine in my day
20:44.42Copewethrin: yes :( very sad
20:44.53wethrinnow they're all Deb*an
20:44.58Copea piece of my heritage died
20:45.15highburybrass sleeves are used around things as a bearing material
20:45.21Copesable and ermine were digital unix, no?
20:45.28wethrinYup
20:45.52wethrinOr whatever it was called that day
20:52.57GeorgeI AM BACK!
20:52.58GeorgeWOO FOR ME!
20:53.03GeorgeTHE SUN SHINES OUT OF MY BOTTOM!
20:55.06wethrinbah
20:56.00resuDaedgrrr, I am bored of this, I think I am going to do the slides now
20:56.44mikejwibot: Yo!
20:56.45ibotYo wazzaaaap my brotha?!
20:56.52mikejwlol
21:01.19wethrinTop Gear++
21:06.28Georgewith a pointed stick
21:30.45wethrinAre you getting fat? :)
21:32.14resuDaednot really, I am possibly half a stone more than I feel I should be, I am a 32" waist before a meal, and a 34" after
21:32.25wethrinExpandable
21:32.54resuDaedI suppose that probably explains the 1kg of pasta thing
21:33.40resuDaedI have various trousers of both sizes, and the 32" are fine normally, but a little tight after eating, and the 34" require a belt, unless I have just eaten
21:35.48resuDaedI am going to join a gym when my next loan payment comes through (can't really afford it at moment), ironically it is Jan 2nd that it comes through
21:36.37wethrinheh
21:37.18wethrinbeans!
21:37.42resuDaedI have 3 tins of tesco value beans, 1 tin of tikka flavoured mean beans and half a frozen loaf of bread
21:37.58resuDaedand no pasta anymore
21:38.04wethrinHmm.....do you have a blender?
21:38.18resuDaedno, but why?
21:38.29wethrinYou could blend bread and beans
21:38.34wethrinAnd then pour it over another slice of bread
21:39.00resuDaedah, interesting idea, can't quite imagine how it would taste though
21:39.09resuDaedwould make the beans last longer that way
21:39.15wethrindon't blend the cans
21:41.15resuDaedI need tha pasta for the carbs, it is going to be a long night, I reckon another 2 hours of this presentation, then an hour of maths, then maybe a movie or some star trek or something
21:43.26resuDaedam listening to Dain Bramage (Internet Radio), it is pretty good, but very automated (random) in its music selection, just gone from Linkin Park to Oasis
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23:05.43Copelo AngelChild
23:05.52AngelChildhiyo :D
23:06.14Cope:)
23:06.31wethrinwhatho, AC
23:08.03AngelChildhi wethrin o/
23:09.14ErwinThis Rez? http://www.gamegirladvance.com/archives/2002/10/26/sex_in_games_rezvibrator.html
23:19.34Copenn all
23:19.41wethrinnn Cope
23:41.52mikejwrez?
23:46.34*** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@ipvpn095206.netvigator.com)
23:47.23mikejwLeeds: hey :)
23:47.36Leedsmorning mikejw
23:49.54Leedsgood weekend?
23:50.17mikejwyeah it was ok
23:50.39Leedsonly ok?
23:51.05mikejwwas hoping to get more coursework done but I did some
23:51.10Leeds(bloody council tax)
23:51.18Leedsah
23:53.18Leedsyou know you pay more council tax on an empty, but furnished, home, than you do on one with one person living there?
23:54.02mikejwweird city
23:54.42Leedsin London, I mean... probably the whole of England/UK
23:54.59mikejwright
23:55.25stephenwe've got a Spanish housemate who was completely unaware that she had to pay council tax
23:55.45mikejw:S
23:55.52ErwinWatch out for squatters, Leeds :)
23:57.01LeedsErwin: one of the reasons for my trip back to the UK over Christmas is to get my place cleaned up and emptied out enough to be able to think about renting it out
23:57.51mikejwwhere is the place?
23:59.21LeedsHendon

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