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09:15.41 | rhowe | mm, 243 emails |
09:27.44 | AndrewBlack | Hi rhowe. Are you coming to the drink tomorrow? |
09:46.07 | Cope | aha! rhowe! |
09:47.16 | rhowe | AndrewBlack: Hm, don't know |
09:47.32 | rhowe | Depends whether my landlady's away or not.. if she is, then no, I'll be at home |
09:47.57 | rhowe | Cope: I can't /msg you |
09:49.42 | Cope | rhowe: have you registered your nick? |
09:52.22 | AndrewBlack | trying to avoid the landlady? |
09:53.24 | AndrewBlack | Does anyone have experience of using VoIP for home use? |
09:53.40 | AndrewBlack | I would liketo be able to talk to friend in US and other places. |
09:54.06 | AndrewBlack | Most non techy people have only heard of Skype and I feel it is a little closed/ proprietry? |
09:55.18 | Cope | which is more important? getting it to work, or the politics/principles? |
09:55.51 | Cope | of the former, just use skype, if the latter, you'll have to do some digging! Not something I've played with, although am interested. |
09:59.24 | AndrewBlack | You may be right. I can't put my finger on what I don't like about Skype. Maybe it would be worth trying it to get a more considered opinion. |
10:00.22 | AndrewBlack | I think I have previosuly come across commercial ventures that have taken over a segment of the user base. Eg Compuserve address with strange numeric addresess |
10:00.44 | AndrewBlack | Of AOL with strange browsers .... |
10:01.16 | Cope | hehe, yes! |
10:02.49 | AndrewBlack | off to make coffee ! |
10:06.15 | rhowe | Cope: Not at all |
10:06.37 | rhowe | AndrewBlack: Read the EULA for Skype and see if that rubs you the wrong way |
10:07.01 | rhowe | AndrewBlack: Also, bear in mind that Skype's development was funded and the code honed through the development of Kazaa, the peer to peer file sharing application, which came bundled with spyware |
10:07.36 | rhowe | AndrewBlack: Also, consider that their encryption methods aren't public, so nobody's quite sure if it's secure or not |
10:08.07 | rhowe | (yes, they claim AES, but how are the keys managed? What mode of AES is used? etc) |
10:14.32 | AndrewBlack | rhowe: Sounds like my misgivings are somewhat justified. |
10:15.17 | AndrewBlack | Maybe I need to learn some "bullshit repellant patter". So if someone has only heard of (sk|h)ype point out there are alternatives. |
10:16.31 | Cope | is there any performance benefit to be gained from disbling ipv6 on an ipv4 only network? |
10:22.07 | rhowe | Cope: Some clients will try to resolve AAAA records before A records if they're configured for IPv6 operation, so disabling IPv6 can help avoid DNS timeouts for broken sites |
10:23.09 | Cope | that would only be for workstations or machines in an environment which is crap? |
10:24.14 | rhowe | Cope: Hm, might bite you if you're a mail server and you're trying to check a reverse delegation by doing a forward lookup, and the site you're querying for has broken DNS (all DNS servers down the line will stall waiting for an answer) |
10:24.16 | Cope | incidentally since when did linux (well redhat) start including a zeroconf config out of the box! |
10:24.37 | rhowe | Cope: Sometime since 5.0 :P (the last time I used RH) |
10:24.51 | Cope | eek |
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12:14.06 | morsing | I hate Debian |
12:14.42 | Erwin | But Debian loves you! |
12:14.46 | morsing | Tell me how to remove *one* package please? |
12:17.38 | Erwin | apt-get remove ? |
12:17.56 | Erwin | apt-get --purge remove if you also want do wipe config files |
12:18.16 | Erwin | or dpkg --purge |
12:19.07 | rhowe | morsing: "dselect select remove", find the package and hit - or _, then enter (unless it conflicts) |
12:19.35 | morsing | All your suggestions will remove 82 packages. Not what I want |
12:20.10 | rhowe | morsing: If you can't resolve the conflicts using dselect, you probably can't remove that package without having to remove others which depend on it |
12:20.30 | rhowe | morsing: Either that, or the other packages have incorrect dependencies |
12:20.58 | morsing | Tell me why removing postfix has to remove "at" and all my Nagios packages as well?!? |
12:21.09 | morsing | Plus all mysql packages |
12:21.32 | Erwin | at depends on a mailer system |
12:22.01 | Erwin | you could probably use --force-XXX in this case to remove postfix and then install some other mailer |
12:22.07 | morsing | Ok, so I want to ignore dependencies then |
12:22.14 | morsing | XXX being? |
12:22.21 | rhowe | morsing: in dselect, mark postfix for purging, using _, then mark ssmtp for installation using + |
12:23.00 | rhowe | morsing: That'll preserve the ability of the system to send emails (to a designated mail server, for onward processing), whilst relieving it of needing a full MTA installed |
12:23.13 | Erwin | or apt-get install postfix- ssmtp (IIRC< remove postfix, install ssmtp) |
12:24.15 | morsing | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
12:24.15 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
12:24.15 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
12:24.15 | morsing | E: Broken packages |
12:24.16 | rhowe | morsing: Ignoring dependencies in Debian is almost (always?) never the right thing to do |
12:24.30 | morsing | That message is not true. Postfix 2.1.5-9 is installed |
12:24.34 | rhowe | morsing: apt-get install postfix-tls- postfix- ssmtp |
12:24.44 | rhowe | morsing: But it is not going to be installed after apt-get runs |
12:24.53 | morsing | What? |
12:25.11 | morsing | How do I re-install or replace postfix |
12:25.21 | rhowe | morsing: I'd use dselect.. find ssmtp and hit + |
12:25.44 | rhowe | morsing: dselect should then walk you through replacing postfix |
12:26.17 | morsing | rhowe: dselect doesn't even have the mailer I want in its list! |
12:26.25 | rhowe | morsing: Which mailer would that be? |
12:26.40 | rhowe | qmail? |
12:27.20 | morsing | postfix-tls |
12:27.42 | rhowe | morsing: Oh, then find postfix-tls in dselect and hit +.. does that do what you want? |
12:27.52 | morsing | rhowe: It's not there |
12:28.08 | rhowe | morsing: Which version of Debian? |
12:28.22 | morsing | 3 |
12:28.46 | rhowe | Not sarge? 3.1? |
12:29.45 | rhowe | (see /etc/debian_version) |
12:33.23 | rhowe | http://pics.livejournal.com/vampwillow/pic/000147q9/g5 |
12:34.25 | morsing | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 %h |
12:35.48 | murb | moin |
12:35.50 | rhowe | Well my advice is dselect. Why mess with dependencies when it can do it for you? |
12:38.09 | Erwin | Just across the moat we built to keep the Swedes out |
12:38.47 | murb | Erwin: tunnnled / bridged |
12:38.47 | rhowe | A friend's just got a job with Sony Ericsson as a software customisation something |
12:39.02 | murb | rhowe: nice income tax rate as well.. |
12:39.49 | rhowe | murb: The job's not mine, but she's been living in .se for a couple of years without a job, so any tax rate below 100% is probably good as far as she's concerned |
12:40.39 | Erwin | Supposedly Astrid Lindgren, the author of the Pippi childrens' books once received a tax bill with a >100% marginal tax rate on it |
12:41.48 | rhowe | That's pretty impressive |
12:46.40 | Erwin | nooo. why? |
12:47.01 | morsing | How else? |
12:47.12 | morsing | Postfix is broken |
12:47.36 | rhowe | morsing: What does dselect suggest when you ask it to install postfix-tls? |
12:48.10 | morsing | rhowe: It doesn't know what postfix-tls is |
12:48.58 | morsing | ^[[Adselect: unknown action string `postfix-tls' |
12:50.40 | morsing | Also, apt and dselect gives conflicting versions for the installed postfix |
12:53.11 | morsing | installp rules |
12:55.00 | morsing | How do I show information for an install package? |
12:56.10 | morsing | emil:~# apt-cache showpkg postfix |
12:56.10 | morsing | Package: postfix |
12:56.10 | morsing | Versions: |
12:56.10 | morsing | 2.2.4-1(/var/lib/dpkg/status) |
12:56.27 | morsing | Hmm... That's newer than 2.1.5-9 |
13:01.18 | rhowe | morsing: "dselect select install" and then search for postfix-tls using the / key |
13:01.41 | rhowe | morsing: Then, when you find it, hit the + key, and see if it says you need to sort out some dependencies |
13:02.27 | boudiccas | I'm trying to get mplayer working properly on my machine running centos 4.2, and it says .. "Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts." But, which script do I add that line to? |
13:04.14 | rhowe | boudiccas: If mplayer's flat out not working, then that's unlikely to fix it |
13:04.14 | morsing | rhowe: postfix-tls is not there |
13:04.40 | rhowe | morsing: Hm, maybe try "dselect update select install" |
13:04.44 | boudiccas | mplayer is working, but it only seems to work from the command line |
13:04.52 | rhowe | morsing: Maybe dselect's listings are out of date |
13:05.13 | rhowe | boudiccas: the RTC stuff is just so mplayer can get more accurate timing data from the kernel, for better sync |
13:06.24 | boudiccas | rhowe; k. next problem :) ........ |
13:06.26 | boudiccas | xvinfo |
13:06.26 | boudiccas | X-Video Extension version 2.2 |
13:06.26 | boudiccas | screen #0 |
13:06.26 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
13:06.44 | boudiccas | so how do i get adaptors for my video card? |
13:07.45 | rhowe | boudiccas: Make sure that the X server you're using supports XVideo for your graphics chipset |
13:08.05 | rhowe | boudiccas: You may need to use non-free drivers, although I thought most of the open source drivers did XVideo these days |
13:08.41 | boudiccas | o: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display) |
13:08.42 | boudiccas | vo_xvmc: X-Video extension 2.2 |
13:08.42 | boudiccas | vo_xvmc: No X-Video MotionCompensation Extension on :0.0 |
13:08.42 | boudiccas | It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available |
13:08.43 | rhowe | boudiccas: You might need DRM and/or AGP kernel modules loaded in order to use all the features of your graphics adapter, so make sure you have them too |
13:09.04 | rhowe | boudiccas: From the xvinfo output you pasted above, mplayer's diagnosis would appear to be correct |
13:09.24 | rhowe | boudiccas: Have a look at the startup log for your X server, see if it mentions Xvideo support anywhere |
13:09.43 | rhowe | $ grep XV /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
13:09.43 | rhowe | (II) Loading extension XVideo |
13:09.43 | rhowe | (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation |
13:09.48 | rhowe | Mine has that |
13:09.59 | rhowe | s/XFree86/Xorg/ |
13:11.42 | boudiccas | rhowe; no mention of xvideo support in it at all :( |
13:12.38 | boudiccas | (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" |
13:12.39 | boudiccas | compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 |
13:12.39 | boudiccas | ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 |
13:14.02 | boudiccas | (II) Loading extension XVideo |
13:14.02 | boudiccas | (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation |
13:14.27 | boudiccas | hmm, it seems to be the same as yours! |
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13:38.53 | murb | 1A~. |
13:39.02 | murb | hmm |
13:40.45 | boudiccas | If I do .. 'xvinfo' I get .. "X-Video Extension version 2.2 screen #0 no adaptors present" So how do I get adaptors please? |
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16:21.24 | Cope | Derek: See my comments in green, below yours in red. |
16:22.00 | Cope | with a sandwich below: see my comments below in red |
16:25.05 | George | wethrin: oiy, fatso |
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18:22.29 | Leeds | hello? |
18:35.53 | George | hey Leeds |
18:35.59 | George | Leeds: where are you? |
18:41.59 | Leeds | Hendon |
18:44.44 | Leeds | I've had to fall back to a *floppy* to get a machine here booting |
18:46.10 | rhowe | Leeds: At least say it was an etherboot floppy |
18:55.06 | George | Leeds: hehe |
18:56.41 | Leeds | rhowe: should it have been an etherboot floppy? I haven't had to use a floppy to boot for so long that toms was the only thing which came to mind |
18:57.15 | George | anyone know how to unlock a t610? |
18:57.34 | rhowe | Leeds: etherboot'd be a floppy which would kick your non-PXE NIC into doing PXE |
18:57.44 | Leeds | George: go to your local phone shop, give them a tenner |
18:57.47 | rhowe | Leeds: It's basically the PXE stack on a floppy, with a driver for your card |
18:58.01 | George | Leeds: aren't they obliged to do it for free if the contract is over? |
18:58.36 | Leeds | rhowe: ah, right... couldn't be bothered to setup the server end of network booting |
18:59.29 | Leeds | George: AFAIK, no... they (being your network, not your friendly local phone shop) are not obligated to do it at all if you are in contract, and they tend to make a nominal (i.e. of the order of a tenner) charge out of contract |
19:00.43 | rhowe | George: Ask Google. Sometimes you can do it by keying in certain sequences of numbers on the handset |
19:01.20 | George | how do I find out what type of lock it's got? |
19:01.27 | George | if it's a service provider lock or a sim lock? |
19:08.24 | rhowe | No idea |
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19:14.40 | Leeds | seems the pppd on my 'server', while being fine for adsl-type ppp for years, is too old to be used for dial-up! |
19:18.32 | rhowe | Oh, you use Slackware, don't you? :) |
19:18.51 | Leeds | root@bigboy:~# cat /etc/slackware-version |
19:18.53 | Leeds | 7.1.0 |
19:19.14 | Leeds | root@bigboy:~# ls -l /etc/slackware-version |
19:19.15 | Leeds | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6 May 13 2000 /etc/slackware-version |
19:19.45 | rhowe | I have no sympathy :) |
19:21.15 | Leeds | back in a mo... hopefully... |
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19:30.21 | Leeds | lo, and I am happy(er) |
19:31.53 | Leeds | I have both connectivity and fileserving going through bigboy, where they belong, and bigboy has a shiny new power supply - with a fan which actually goes around! |
19:32.37 | rhowe | covered in Chinese characters? |
19:34.45 | Leeds | well, it's probably made in China - most things are, nowadays |
19:36.34 | rhowe | But not brought over from HK? |
19:38.04 | Leeds | oh, no - I didn't know I needed one until I got here |
19:38.33 | rhowe | Oh, and are you out tomorrow? |
19:38.49 | Leeds | yes |
19:39.04 | Leeds | but I've only just got online enough to be able to reply to wethrin's mail |
19:39.12 | rhowe | are you out any other evening before you go back to the far east? |
19:39.57 | Leeds | current plans are not particularly, in a public way |
19:40.22 | rhowe | so tomorrow's the best bet for us to meet up, then? |
19:40.28 | Leeds | yes |
19:40.51 | rhowe | You wouldn't happen to be flying back on the 3rd Jan, would you? |
19:41.02 | Leeds | I'm leaving the night of the 2nd |
19:41.14 | rhowe | heh, the day before my gf goesx |
19:41.14 | Leeds | why do you ask? |
19:41.29 | rhowe | She's taking the 2130 Virgin Atlantic LHR->HKG on the 3/1/06 |
19:41.42 | Leeds | gosex? |
19:41.46 | rhowe | goes |
19:41.57 | rhowe | Ctrl+x being "send message" in centericq |
19:42.00 | Leeds | no, I'm on it on the 2nd... she could have joined me in the lounge otherwise |
19:42.08 | rhowe | and irssi not being centericq |
19:42.34 | rhowe | Got any spare luggage allowance? :) |
19:44.18 | Leeds | probably not |
19:44.29 | rhowe | Ah well, I had to ask |
19:44.57 | Leeds | well, I might have some weight, but I'll probably have 2 pretty full bags... assuming I can find another decent bag to fill |
19:46.04 | rhowe | She probably has a limit on what she can take on the onward journey to Shunde, assuming she's flying |
19:47.40 | Leeds | shunde? |
19:48.39 | rhowe | near Guangzhou |
19:49.00 | Leeds | which has what to do with a LHR->HKG flight? |
19:49.25 | Leeds | meanwhile, what the fuck is going on in Sri Lanka? |
19:49.50 | rhowe | Well assuming she takes 20kg with her and you had been able to take some extra for her, if her allowance on her connecting flight in HK is still only 20kg, then it hasn't really helped :P |
19:50.35 | rhowe | Leeds: I have a tripod now, btw! |
19:51.55 | Leeds | right, so she's taking a connection flight... |
19:51.58 | Leeds | I have a tripod too... |
19:52.29 | rhowe | Ah, she's taking a ferry |
19:53.01 | Leeds | do they have baggage allowances? |
19:53.05 | rhowe | Anyway, I might be there tomorrow.. depends on her |
19:53.12 | rhowe | Leeds: Whatever you can carry, I suspect :) |
19:53.41 | Leeds | rhowe: that is not an option |
19:54.42 | rhowe | What is not an option? |
19:55.03 | rhowe | I'm not asking you to take anything.. I was just pondering out loud a bit :P |
19:55.17 | Leeds | nah, you not being there tomorrow is not an option |
19:55.38 | rhowe | Oh right |
19:55.50 | rhowe | Then I shall bring kpop |
19:58.27 | Leeds | fair enough |
20:02.32 | gregj | today's Linuses birthday |
20:02.50 | Leeds | yay |
20:04.17 | rhowe | well happy birthday Linus, then |
20:05.00 | rhowe | Leeds: I suspect if (when?) I come tomorrow, I will have to bring Xiaoping, whose english isn't so good |
20:05.08 | rhowe | Leeds: She'll probably be quite bored |
20:06.50 | Leeds | she could give me a cantonese lesson... |
20:07.00 | rhowe | She could |
20:07.16 | Leeds | seriously, I'd appreciate it if you come, even if it's just for one drink before you piss off |
20:08.00 | rhowe | A friend who just recently moved to London and is living in Holloway, just said "have you eaten yet?" |
20:08.04 | rhowe | Leeds: Have you eaten yet? |
20:08.14 | Leeds | no, I haven't |
20:09.12 | rhowe | Are we going to Woodlands tomorrow? |
20:09.35 | Leeds | we could... |
20:10.07 | rhowe | I was going to say "If not tomorrow, tonight" |
20:10.19 | rhowe | Although it's a fair trek for all 3 of us |
20:10.42 | rhowe | Friend in Holloway says he's not cooked pork in the flat yet :P |
20:12.09 | Leeds | hmm... |
20:12.34 | Leeds | reckon it would take me an hour to get there, +- |
20:12.35 | rhowe | Although Matt ($friend) doesn't like pulses at all |
20:12.40 | Leeds | ah |
20:12.42 | rhowe | So no chick peas |
20:12.49 | rhowe | Which limits the options in Woodlands somewhat.. |
20:13.04 | Leeds | btw, there is a woodlands in HK, in TST East |
20:13.17 | rhowe | It would take me about an hour to get to Woodlands too, I suspect |
20:13.37 | rhowe | 15mins walk, ~30mins waiting+train, walk from charing cross ~10-15mins |
20:14.14 | Leeds | drive (rented Skoda) to station - Hendon or Colindale - tube into town, walk |
20:14.54 | Leeds | fancy a late tea? |
20:15.35 | rhowe | wouldn't say no |
20:15.52 | rhowe | All I've eaten today is 2 glutinous rice peanut things, and lots of chocolate |
20:16.01 | Cope | woo Leeds |
20:16.06 | Leeds | I've had some crisps, and a bowl of shreddies |
20:16.25 | Leeds | evening Cope |
20:16.37 | rhowe | Cope: Looks like I will be there tomorrow, and if I am there, Xiaoping will be with me |
20:16.46 | Cope | righto |
20:17.14 | Cope | well I shall definitely be there |
20:17.25 | Leeds | yay |
20:17.58 | rhowe | Leeds: However, Woodlands isn't especially cheap, and I'm still smarting from Cope's birthday |
20:18.11 | rhowe | Leeds: Might I suggest a salt beef bagel from Brick Lane? :) |
20:18.19 | Leeds | cope had a birthday? :-) |
20:18.30 | rhowe | Cope: That's what I like to hear :P |
20:18.34 | Leeds | rhowe: I don't eat non-kosher meat, remember? :-) |
20:18.42 | George | Cope: why are you giving rhowe lots of cash? |
20:18.48 | rhowe | Leeds: beef not kosher? |
20:18.52 | Cope | George: because he's a fine fellow |
20:19.05 | George | Cope: more to the point, why haven't you got a lot of cash for me? |
20:19.05 | Leeds | not always |
20:19.10 | Leeds | George: coming to the pub tomorrow? |
20:19.16 | George | Leeds: apparently |
20:19.33 | rhowe | Leeds: Hm, not sure if the bagel shop's kosher or not, to be honest |
20:20.01 | Cope | if in doubt, leave it out! |
20:20.01 | Leeds | rhowe: it isn't - I know |
20:20.11 | rhowe | Leeds: Ah, OKL |
20:20.30 | George | anyone have a mini-itx board they want to get rid of? |
20:20.32 | Leeds | plus, it's harder to get to... to be honest, I'm sort of thinking it's warm inside tonight... |
20:20.42 | Cope | its bloody cold outside! |
20:20.57 | Leeds | Cope: exactly my point :-) |
20:21.01 | George | Cope: hell yes. cold is good. |
20:21.15 | Leeds | although, it's only warm inside due to a) being in bed and b) computers, since I have no heating |
20:21.22 | rhowe | Matt is not averse to Woodlands |
20:21.37 | George | Leeds: which pub? |
20:21.48 | Leeds | George: the Windmill |
20:21.52 | Cope | WINDMILL |
20:21.54 | George | Leeds: ok |
20:21.56 | Cope | eek caps |
20:21.57 | George | SAUSAGE |
20:22.04 | George | eek bacon |
20:22.17 | Leeds | CURRY |
20:22.35 | rhowe | Leeds: Could have London Bridge curry :) |
20:22.43 | rhowe | Leeds: Oh, I know,... how about Chinese food? :P |
20:23.16 | Leeds | nah, don't like Chinese food... here... |
20:24.11 | Leeds | rhowe: I'll meet you at Hendon Central for shwarma :-) |
20:24.17 | rhowe | Leeds: Me and Matt are heading to Leicester Square |
20:24.17 | TimMagic | do u guys plan meetings more than a month in advance? |
20:24.26 | Leeds | TimMagic: rarely |
20:24.27 | rhowe | TimMagic: Rarely, if ever :) |
20:24.40 | rhowe | TimMagic: Some meetings have maybe 2 hours notice (social meets :) |
20:24.51 | TimMagic | i can make the january mtg buit will block out february given enough warning! |
20:25.04 | Leeds | TimMagic: come to the pub tomorrow! |
20:25.32 | TimMagic | what pub? what time? what purpose? |
20:25.44 | Leeds | Windmill, evening, to see me |
20:25.59 | TimMagic | where art the windmill? |
20:26.00 | rhowe | Leeds: Cyber candy is closed until the new year, I've been informed |
20:26.12 | TimMagic | is that the place on shelton st? |
20:26.18 | TimMagic | cyber candy... |
20:26.30 | Leeds | rhowe: ! |
20:26.41 | Leeds | TimMagic: http://london.pm.org/meetings/locations/windmill.html |
20:26.48 | Leeds | rhowe: I was planning on stocking up! |
20:26.51 | rhowe | Leeds: OK, I will be around Leicester Square in about 40-45 mins I guess |
20:27.03 | rhowe | Leeds: If you join us, we'll go to Woodlands |
20:27.10 | rhowe | Leeds: If not, we may still go to Woodlands :P |
20:27.38 | rhowe | (and we can of course go tomorrow too..) |
20:27.43 | Leeds | hmm... tempting |
20:28.12 | TimMagic | i may join you |
20:28.27 | Leeds | TimMagic: today or tomorrow or both? :-) |
20:28.39 | TimMagic | tomorrow! if i can be bothered to leave my nice warm house and take the stupid tube down |
20:28.43 | TimMagic | what time? |
20:28.54 | Leeds | rhowe: yeah, why not... I'll see you at Leicester Square in as long as it takes me to get there |
20:28.58 | rhowe | Leeds: Well, you're the furthest out, so if you're coming, you'd best get your skates on :) |
20:29.07 | Leeds | TimMagic: I expect to be there from 6ish |
20:29.15 | TimMagic | ok |
20:29.25 | rhowe | Leeds: New mobile # +447851564016 |
20:29.34 | TimMagic | i have a meeting in bristol til 2.30 ish |
20:29.48 | TimMagic | so may pop down if i am not too tired when i get back |
20:31.53 | rhowe | Leeds: ack? |
20:32.06 | Leeds | rhowe: ack |
20:32.32 | Leeds | same mobile works for me - as does my HK number, which you know :-) |
20:32.40 | George | anyone here on Orange PAYG? |
20:32.46 | Leeds | TimMagic: hope to see/meet you tomorrow... |
20:32.49 | Leeds | rhowe: I'm on my way |
20:37.01 | TimMagic | if u around in here on the morrow ill let u know |
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23:17.10 | Cope | bedtime |
23:17.12 | Cope | nn all |
23:31.17 | George | I'm FARKING COLD |
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