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01:31.49 | Cope | evening(ish) |
01:37.16 | George | IT'S MORNING |
01:37.21 | Kitty | evening |
01:37.23 | Kitty | morning |
01:37.25 | Kitty | hi |
01:39.58 | Cope | hello Kitty |
01:40.36 | George | haha |
01:40.39 | George | good joke |
01:52.34 | Cope | nn |
01:53.31 | George | wimp |
03:44.56 | rhowe | ibot change 28 usd to gbp |
03:45.31 | rhowe | ibot change 25 usd to gbp |
03:50.32 | Leeds | morning rhowe |
03:52.37 | George | moooo |
03:55.10 | Leeds | George: go to sleep! |
03:56.26 | George | ooobleboobleflooblewooble |
03:57.23 | rhowe | mornin' |
03:59.56 | Leeds | why are people on such strange timezones? |
04:00.13 | rhowe | I slept earlier |
04:00.23 | rhowe | Now I can't sleep :/ |
04:01.20 | Leeds | that's dangerous |
04:02.55 | rhowe | Well, I'm sure I'll sleep eventually |
04:03.55 | rhowe | ibot change 20 gbp to hkd |
04:07.29 | Leeds | okay, I give up - time to make my aircon do heating... it's cold |
04:08.01 | George | wurble |
04:08.28 | Leeds | 16 degrees in here! |
04:08.39 | George | flurble |
04:10.53 | Leeds | George: waiting up for the postman? |
04:10.59 | George | hell no |
04:12.16 | George | house |
04:13.26 | Leeds | night |
04:14.08 | rhowe | Doubt I ever will, though.. I still haven't seen the first series of 24 :P |
04:15.27 | Leeds | me neither - and I've got it on DVD here! |
04:16.16 | rhowe | heh |
04:16.23 | rhowe | I have a CD set |
04:16.32 | rhowe | Missing the last episode for some reason |
04:17.15 | Leeds | the butler did it! |
04:17.28 | rhowe | sleep() |
04:17.43 | rhowe | or should that be shedule() |
04:17.50 | rhowe | whatever, I'm gone :) |
04:41.02 | George | hey |
04:41.03 | George | lol |
05:10.35 | Kitty | evening |
05:14.40 | George | hrmm |
05:14.42 | George | asda at 5am |
05:14.46 | George | LIAR |
05:26.02 | rhowe | morning |
05:40.02 | Leeds | ah, 24hour supermarkets |
05:43.37 | Leeds | shower time |
07:01.41 | rhowe | ibot change 22.5 gbp to usd |
07:01.53 | rhowe | ibot change 50 gbp to usd |
07:04.58 | rhowe | ibot change 90 gbp to usd |
08:17.38 | Leeds | result |
09:40.55 | murb | oh, is that with the reverse engineered driver? |
09:41.51 | Cope | morning |
09:42.32 | murb | anyone fosdeming this year? (question not directed at leeds) |
09:46.43 | Cope | hopefully |
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10:30.18 | morsing | 'morning |
10:31.03 | z00dax | $TZ Greetings |
10:46.39 | morsing | z00dax! |
10:49.22 | Cope | z00dax: how was se10? |
11:00.12 | Leeds | murb: well, the free driver, yes |
11:08.10 | Leeds | now I need to work out why it's so slow |
11:29.46 | morsing | Check it! |
11:32.44 | rhowe | murb: Yes |
11:36.41 | morsing | rhowe! |
11:36.55 | rhowe | 'morning |
11:37.13 | rhowe | Is it 11:37 where you are? |
11:45.12 | morsing | It's snowing here |
11:46.09 | morsing | Leeds: Is it snowing in HK? |
11:47.26 | morsing | Is freenode UK based? |
11:50.01 | morsing | ibot? |
11:54.44 | murb | morsing: i think the people running the uk freennodes went over to oftc |
11:55.39 | morsing | murb: I was just wondering if people using it are generally UK based or not? Like on #aix? |
11:56.00 | murb | morsing: probably mostly 'merkin. |
11:57.04 | morsing | Hmm... |
11:57.15 | murb | morsing: IRCnet certainlly used to be mainly european |
11:57.18 | murb | after the EFnet split. |
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11:58.34 | morsing | mikejw! |
11:59.51 | mikejw | yo! |
11:59.52 | mikejw | :) |
12:00.00 | mikejw | happy new year folk |
12:00.31 | morsing | Happy new year |
12:00.47 | morsing | When is the next Gllug event |
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12:58.48 | z00dax | Cope, very nice. |
12:59.34 | z00dax | but cost of living in that area might be a bit over the top |
14:00.43 | morsing | I think someone has broken in to my garage... |
14:01.41 | z00dax | morsing, go get em |
14:02.35 | morsing | z00dax: Long gone. It must have happened on Wednesday |
14:02.57 | morsing | Took a car battery charger and 60 liters of petrol from the tank |
14:03.04 | morsing | Annoying |
14:03.28 | morsing | Is there any point in reporting it? |
14:03.54 | z00dax | I'd report it |
14:04.14 | z00dax | if for no other reason, then just to document the event - just in case its required later |
14:04.39 | morsing | Ok - funny think is that there's absolutely no sign of forced entry |
14:42.15 | murb | stop uploading. |
14:42.40 | George | no |
14:42.46 | George | it's my internal network |
14:42.59 | George | i run ping to another machine |
14:43.02 | George | pings freezes |
14:43.12 | George | I get a response after about 10 seconds |
14:43.16 | George | same for every packet |
14:43.20 | George | same on two different computers |
14:43.42 | George | ssh to another box takes ages to log in |
14:43.46 | George | after that, it seems fine |
14:44.39 | George | seems to have only started this morning |
14:45.44 | George | looks like a DNS issue |
14:45.53 | George | if I add the host I'm trying to ping to /etc/hosts |
14:45.55 | George | it all goes fine |
15:01.41 | morsing | Check it! |
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15:03.29 | George_ | morsing: "check it"? |
16:09.54 | morsing | Mmm... sushi |
16:24.08 | rhowe | Mmm... mango |
16:25.26 | Leeds | morning all |
16:25.48 | Leeds | morsing: I had sushi (well, sashimi) for dinner |
16:26.07 | rhowe | Can FreeBSD do a PXE boot install? |
16:26.54 | Leeds | rhowe: I could burn you a Cd and send it if you want? |
16:30.41 | Leeds | and Charlie fell on his sword, in the end |
16:36.14 | rhowe | Leeds: If it was really a problem, I'd dissect my half-assembled desktop and move the CD writer |
16:36.14 | rhowe | Leeds: Or I'd just burn it on the Windows box downstairs |
16:36.17 | rhowe | Leeds: Still, I would've thought PXE should be at least possible.. |
16:37.24 | Leeds | you should be able to netboot an alpha, one way or another |
16:40.33 | Leeds | morsing: for the record, I don't believe it ever snows in HK... we are tropical, you know... |
16:42.21 | rhowe | Leeds: The alpha will netboot, but I don't see anything in the handbook about the installer being PXE bootable |
16:42.32 | rhowe | Leeds: I'm sure it's hackable, but in that case, I'd rather just burn a minimal CD |
16:42.54 | rhowe | well, not PXE |
16:43.03 | rhowe | PXE's an x86 thing, but the alpha equivalent |
16:43.52 | Leeds | http://www.snopes.com/photos/risque/yellowpages.asp |
16:44.07 | morsing | Leeds: I made it myself :-) |
16:45.17 | Leeds | morsing: the snow? was it yellow? |
16:45.58 | morsing | Leeds: No, the sushi. Who's Charlie? |
16:46.19 | stephen | Charles Kennedy, I assume |
16:47.16 | Leeds | right |
16:48.29 | Leeds | what do people suggest for CD ripping? |
16:49.22 | Leeds | other than a manual combination of cdparanoia and oggenc/lame |
16:49.40 | mikejw | grip? |
16:50.34 | Leeds | ugh, gnome... |
16:51.15 | Kitty | grip |
16:51.21 | Leeds | ugh, gnome... |
16:51.36 | Kitty | hehe |
16:51.52 | Leeds | ripping by hand it is! |
16:52.28 | mikejw | :S |
16:55.58 | z00dax | Leeds, what app do you use to play the audio ? |
16:56.15 | Leeds | z00dax: mplayer on a computer, TCPMP on my Treo |
16:56.39 | z00dax | iirc, mplayer has rip + encode frontend'ability |
16:56.54 | Leeds | mencode doesn't like audio-only stuff |
16:57.08 | z00dax | o! |
16:57.44 | Leeds | the m does/did stand for movie, after all |
16:59.39 | morsing | Leeds: ripit seems to work if you hack it a bit |
17:00.16 | Leeds | can't be bothered to hack - it's 1am and I need to try to approach a normal sleeping pattern |
17:01.04 | z00dax | (normal sleeping pattern )++ |
17:01.40 | mikejw | Leeds: try grip, it worked a charm for me on slackware |
17:02.02 | Leeds | plus, I'm expecting to go to a sociable and highly deserved Sunday roast lunch (at which I will be avoiding meat) tomorrow |
17:02.43 | Leeds | frankly, ripping is slow enough that doing it manually is no problem - I'm blocking on the CD drive almost all the time |
17:03.40 | mikejw | good point |
17:04.25 | George | wethrin: ping |
17:05.09 | Leeds | also, this particular CD doesn't technically have ascending integers for track numbers... |
17:10.00 | rhowe | Leeds: grip is GTK only, AFAIK |
17:10.07 | rhowe | Leeds: So you shouldn't need all the Gnome baggage |
17:10.30 | Leeds | it claims to need gnome... and libghttp |
17:11.31 | rhowe | Really? It might optionally require the gnome libraries... |
17:11.37 | Leeds | anyway, I'm most of the way though - I want to get it ripped, then put Life of Brian on and go to sleep :-) |
17:11.43 | rhowe | I think it has a tray icon |
17:11.52 | rhowe | ah, no.. seems I'm living in the past |
17:11.57 | rhowe | <PROTECTED> |
17:12.05 | rhowe | Yes, that single Gnome library! |
17:12.33 | Leeds | and again, how well is it going to deal with non-integer track numbers? |
17:12.37 | rhowe | And, in other news, mum just offered me an interest-free loan to pay off my overdraft and fill my ISA allocation for the year |
17:13.25 | rhowe | So, next month, I should be able to reduce my overdraft limit to, er, about 0 |
17:13.34 | Leeds | very nice of her |
17:13.38 | rhowe | (although I might keep it at £100 just-in-case |
17:13.45 | rhowe | Indeed |
17:13.53 | rhowe | Hurrah for mothers |
17:14.19 | rhowe | Or rather, hurrah for brothers conning mothers out of money and making them feel guilty about not giving an equal amount to siblings |
17:14.27 | Leeds | heh |
17:14.35 | Leeds | are you older or younger? |
17:14.38 | rhowe | Older |
17:14.59 | rhowe | My brother just got a car, part-exchanging his somewhat problematic Citroen Saxo |
17:15.13 | rhowe | Now he has a Seat Ibiza and he'll probably end up writing it off and killing himself in it |
17:15.18 | rhowe | (boy racer) |
17:15.55 | Leeds | see, I try that sort of thing - there's no way my sister is paying her own ticket to Sydney - but I'm older and have actually been working properly (as in for a proper wage, not working hard) for far far longer than either of my sisters |
17:16.32 | rhowe | My brother earns a similar amount to me working nights at Tesco |
17:16.41 | rhowe | Well, perhaps 20% less, or so |
17:16.51 | rhowe | But that's not in London |
17:17.03 | rhowe | so if you say there's a 10% London living allowance or something, it's pretty similar |
17:17.44 | rhowe | hm, sounds like the washing machine might just have hit a lull |
17:22.47 | rhowe | Cope: Your shirt is being washed |
17:27.03 | Leeds | "what are you doing creeping around a cow shed at 2 in the morning - that doesn't sound very wise to me" |
17:27.18 | rhowe | Maybe (s)he's a cow? |
17:27.20 | Leeds | "We must pay homage to him!" "Homage? You're all drunk!" |
17:28.10 | morsing | Is mozrat still alive? |
17:29.14 | morsing | rhowe: You need a raise |
17:29.38 | rhowe | morsing: Indeed |
17:29.50 | rhowe | morsing: How about I become an AIX admin? |
17:29.51 | morsing | rhowe: What does your boss say? |
17:30.03 | morsing | rhowe: Sounds good (and fun) |
17:30.04 | rhowe | morsing: "Nothing I can do" |
17:30.11 | morsing | rhowe: New job... |
17:30.20 | George | sausages |
17:30.22 | morsing | Is mozrat still alive? |
17:30.24 | rhowe | morsing: Need a cow-orker? |
17:30.40 | morsing | rhowe: They'll need to replace me when I leave.. |
17:31.14 | rhowe | morsing: How much of a nightmare is it? |
17:31.39 | morsing | rhowe: The job and the company is great |
17:31.51 | morsing | Some of my colleagues and my boss aren't so much |
17:31.57 | rhowe | morsing: Even when people switch the SIM card in your 'phone? |
17:32.40 | morsing | Yes. You don't know AIX anyway so they won't hire you |
17:33.52 | rhowe | indeed |
17:35.26 | morsing | rhowe: So when are you going to release your TNEF decoder for Thunderbird? |
17:37.00 | rhowe | morsing: heh, right after I finish the company website |
17:40.54 | rhowe | morsing: My Singaporean friend who's living in .se said she finds she's reading Danish now :P |
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17:49.56 | morsing | :-) |
17:50.00 | morsing | :-( |
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18:00.45 | morsing | Seriously, does anyone know what happened to mozrat? |
18:01.39 | rhowe | morsing: He did say something about why he couldn't make it to Vinopolis for Steve's birthday |
18:01.47 | rhowe | morsing: But I'm not sure I've heard from him since |
18:02.32 | z00dax | there was an email from him on the ML a short while back |
18:03.04 | z00dax | well, yesterday evening.... so i'd say he's alive still |
18:16.28 | morsing | z00dax: I just checked and his last mail was 6. Nov. |
18:16.45 | morsing | z00dax: Sorry, reverse sorting! |
18:27.23 | morsing | rhowe: What are you doing this weekend? |
18:38.20 | rhowe | morsing: Researching stuff for Jia |
18:38.31 | George | wethrin: OIY |
18:38.34 | rhowe | morsing: Tourism stuff in Malta, but don't know if I can be much help |
18:39.15 | rhowe | morsing: And, probably, installing FreeBSD on the alpha |
18:41.44 | morsing | Nice |
18:43.02 | morsing | Can I just ask what protocol Konqueror is trying to use when saying remote:/ ? |
19:02.32 | rhowe | no idea |
19:02.44 | rhowe | rcp? sftp? whatever it chooses? |
19:07.10 | wethrin | George: What? |
19:07.21 | wethrin | I was out buying cider in Sussex |
19:08.28 | George | sussex? |
19:09.31 | morsing | rhowe: Well, it says malformed URL so it's definately doing something stupid! |
19:09.42 | morsing | wethrin! |
19:11.01 | wethrin | morsing! |
19:46.19 | rhowe | morsing: Perhaps WebDAV? |
19:46.35 | rhowe | apparently you can make jacket potatoes in the microwave |
20:06.56 | morsing | Well said rhowe! |
20:35.39 | new2unix | Hi all. Does anyone know what has happened to the GLLUG wiki? |
20:36.28 | new2unix | I am after information on this years FOSDEM from a GLLUG perspective. Who's going, how, when, etc. |
20:41.20 | morsing | Leeds: It was itsbruce! |
20:44.41 | George | this is NOT HUGH LAURIE |
20:49.26 | morsing | George: No - you're painfully George |
20:49.41 | George | hi |
20:49.45 | morsing | I JUST GOT AN EMAIL FROM MOZRAT :_) |
20:52.34 | George | wow. |
21:10.42 | morsing | What do I need to get started with selinux? |
21:11.16 | George | there's a fantastic book called "SELinux for complete and utter retards" :) |
21:11.37 | morsing | Thanks. You're always so helpful |
21:11.47 | George | I know :) |
21:11.49 | morsing | Does it run on Solaris |
21:11.50 | morsing | ? |
21:12.21 | George | I dunno |
21:18.39 | Cope | morsing: given that selinux is in the kernel, seems exceptionally improbable. |
21:19.38 | Cope | new2unix: I am planning to go, as is murb and wethrin; rhowe would be a safe bet, so would morsing |
21:20.05 | Cope | new2unix: tarragon and spudulike are likely candidates |
21:22.50 | morsing | http://www.linux.org/news/2006/01/06/0007.html |
21:23.04 | morsing | Cope: I was trying to wind up George |
21:23.29 | George | :P |
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22:24.45 | morsing | Hi Steve |
22:46.04 | highbury | hey morsing? |
22:46.14 | highbury | how goes things then |
22:46.31 | morsing | Good, sort of. You? Comning to FOSDEM? |
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