| 00:00.57 | Catalyst | good morning |
| 00:01.34 | wethrin | morning, person |
| 00:02.40 | Catalyst | morning wethrin :) |
| 00:05.16 | wethrin | hurrah! |
| 00:05.50 | Catalyst | :D |
| 00:07.43 | wethrin | Magic! |
| 00:09.08 | Catalyst | oh |
| 00:09.11 | Catalyst | it was hiding from me |
| 00:09.19 | wethrin | Aha |
| 00:12.12 | Leeds | Catalyst: hunt it down and destroy it |
| 00:14.27 | Catalyst | >:) |
| 00:30.10 | George | night |
| 00:30.15 | wethrin | nn |
| 00:30.24 | George | getting up at 6:30 to revise ( |
| 00:30.25 | George | :( |
| 00:30.34 | wethrin | that's silly |
| 00:30.42 | George | don't care |
| 00:31.10 | wethrin | ha |
| 00:31.31 | Catalyst | they are FUN! |
| 00:31.37 | George | I need an A in Further Maths |
| 00:31.43 | George | ergo I need to do work. for once. |
| 00:31.46 | George | and the exam is tomorrow |
| 00:32.01 | Catalyst | ouch |
| 00:32.10 | Catalyst | good luck |
| 00:32.14 | George | lol |
| 00:32.16 | George | it's only D1 |
| 00:32.17 | George | and S4 |
| 00:32.39 | Catalyst | I never willingly took a stats module |
| 00:48.14 | Leeds | worktime |
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| 08:00.50 | morsing | 'morning |
| 08:01.34 | Leeds | are you sure of that? |
| 08:01.56 | morsing | Leeds: Yes! |
| 08:02.02 | morsing | Mmm... Chostelerol test! |
| 08:02.07 | Leeds | in that case, good morning! |
| 08:02.27 | morsing | Hey, I didn't say it was good! |
| 08:02.52 | Leeds | I am wishing you a good morning |
| 08:02.59 | morsing | Ahh... |
| 08:03.20 | morsing | Complicattions with the new job :-( |
| 08:03.31 | Leeds | oops :-( on which end? |
| 08:04.06 | morsing | Well, the guy who interviewed me had only been employed for 6 weeks at the time |
| 08:04.16 | Leeds | ugh |
| 08:04.18 | morsing | He has now resigned and left immediately |
| 08:04.29 | Leeds | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4621158.stm |
| 08:04.31 | Leeds | ugh ugh ugh |
| 08:04.56 | morsing | Leeds: It doesn't sound like it's a good place to work does it? :-( |
| 08:05.02 | Leeds | not really, no |
| 08:05.12 | morsing | Leeds: Should I just leave it? |
| 08:05.55 | Leeds | no, I'd persue it with caution |
| 08:06.16 | Leeds | you didn't do the technical interview yet, I assume? |
| 08:06.30 | morsing | No |
| 08:06.46 | morsing | I'm also annoyed that my manager wasn't at the interview |
| 08:06.55 | morsing | I think there are some bad signs.... |
| 08:07.06 | Leeds | it does sound that way, yes |
| 08:07.25 | Leeds | ah well, you didn't quit your old job yet, did you? |
| 08:07.28 | morsing | No |
| 08:07.35 | morsing | But I want to! |
| 08:08.46 | Leeds | so, hand in your notice and you've got 13 weeks to find a new job! |
| 08:09.12 | Leeds | (advice may not be 100% serious, and no liability is assumed on the part of the advisor) |
| 08:09.42 | Leeds | (advice may also not be 100% silly) |
| 08:10.01 | Leeds | I told you I saw Tux on the plane back here, right? |
| 08:10.20 | morsing | No? |
| 08:11.37 | Leeds | on Virgin... they had a load a trouble getting the IFE up, had to reboot it, etc. - at one point they announced that "you may see a penguin and a load of text on screen - don't worry, that just means the system is starting up" |
| 08:15.26 | morsing | :-) |
| 08:16.28 | Leeds | anyway, I did indeed see the chubby little guy and a bunch of bash -x style boot information: "cd /seatapps" |
| 08:32.17 | morsing | 200! |
| 08:32.19 | morsing | :-) |
| 08:32.35 | Leeds | I should really get mine properly tested |
| 08:34.40 | morsing | Why? Chostelerol is over rated! |
| 08:57.41 | morsing | I'm aiming to get mine up to 200 |
| 08:57.45 | morsing | Sorry - 300 |
| 09:33.47 | morsing | Check it! |
| 09:39.03 | Leeds | yubnub |
| 09:40.55 | morsing | Where can I download maps for my navigation system? |
| 09:41.34 | Leeds | in general, for the UK, you can't |
| 09:42.15 | morsing | What about Denmark? |
| 09:42.16 | Leeds | which is what Steve's project - the one he needs mysql/apache/tomcat scaling advice for - is all about |
| 09:42.33 | morsing | Leeds: Will that install on my Navman? |
| 09:42.42 | Leeds | I confess that I've never had enough of a need to nagivate in Denmark to have investigated |
| 09:43.00 | Leeds | no, probably not - it's a nasty proprietary device and they'll want chunks of cash off you for maps |
| 09:43.49 | morsing | Leeds: I bought the system two days ago, it came with maps that are from July last year but even road built three years ago are not on there. |
| 09:43.56 | morsing | Can I complain about that? |
| 09:44.01 | Leeds | no |
| 09:44.08 | morsing | Why not? |
| 09:44.13 | Leeds | "no liability, no guarantee of accuracy, etc." |
| 09:44.19 | morsing | Surely you can demand up-to-date maps? |
| 09:44.25 | Leeds | you can complain, but you're not going to get very far |
| 09:45.04 | Leeds | they have to get the data - i.e. buy the data - then convert and republish it... there may be some updated stuff available to buy |
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| 09:48.39 | z00-mobile | hello |
| 09:48.43 | wethrin | hi z00-mobile |
| 09:49.02 | z00-mobile | wethrin! |
| 09:49.19 | wethrin | Come to Fosdem! |
| 09:49.37 | z00-mobile | l am trying to |
| 09:49.50 | wethrin | hurrah! |
| 09:49.57 | wethrin | morsing: Check it! |
| 09:50.16 | z00-mobile | not being a EU national / nor UK national - I need a visa |
| 09:50.23 | wethrin | Eww |
| 09:50.49 | z00-mobile | which is no fun |
| 09:51.26 | wethrin | indeed |
| 09:51.55 | wethrin | Wander over to the Belgian embassy, if it exists, and tell them you plan to give their country vast quantities of money in exchange for booze, but you need a visa :) |
| 09:52.05 | z00-mobile | l have Tickets & a place to stay |
| 09:52.56 | wethrin | excellent |
| 09:53.33 | z00-mobile | hav an appointment with them ( embassy ) on Friday @ 10am |
| 09:53.36 | morsing | wethrin: I DO! |
| 09:53.58 | z00-mobile | morsing! |
| 09:54.00 | Leeds | morsing: I now pronounce you man and Dane - you may kiss the student |
| 09:55.52 | wethrin | morsing: You didn't answer my Gllug Social email! |
| 09:55.54 | Leeds | hmm... 870 flights expected to use HK airport on 27/01 |
| 09:56.16 | wethrin | Oh, and thanks for your Eurostar email, but I already got two copies, and I checked the price for the Friday going out, and there's still no change |
| 10:08.07 | z00-mobile | be back online in a bit |
| 10:11.14 | morsing | What's the difference between init q and kill -HUP 1? |
| 10:14.17 | Leeds | nothing, apparently, unless /etc/initrunlvl or /var/log/initrunlvl exist |
| 10:18.01 | morsing | Hmm... I think init q is broken on AIX |
| 10:19.54 | wethrin | morsing: Thanks for the email |
| 10:19.58 | Cope | s/init q/fundamentally everything/ |
| 10:21.15 | wethrin | You didn't mean anything? |
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| 10:43.37 | Cope | i *hate* outlook |
| 10:45.29 | morsing | Cope: We all do |
| 10:58.07 | morsing | George: Does that mean you're drunk? |
| 11:10.07 | George | no, it doesn't |
| 11:10.11 | George | it means I can't work anymore |
| 11:11.43 | wethrin | You never did any work anyway! |
| 11:12.21 | George | liar |
| 11:12.27 | George | I'm working now |
| 11:12.32 | George | trying to learn the simplex metohd |
| 11:12.35 | wethrin | Ha |
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| 11:33.30 | morsing | *sigh* |
| 11:33.34 | morsing | iTron! |
| 12:01.07 | Cope | you do? |
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| 12:42.12 | IAmAI | Hello. |
| 12:57.06 | morsing | Hey! |
| 12:57.19 | IAmAI | How are you? |
| 12:57.40 | morsing | Does telephone mute on car stereos work buy grounding or 12v signal? |
| 12:57.56 | IAmAI | What's FOSDEM? |
| 12:59.58 | IAmAI | BRB |
| 13:01.57 | wethrin | Free and Open Source Developers European Meeting |
| 13:09.55 | morsing | wethrin: Well done. Can you answer my question as well? |
| 13:11.19 | boudiccas | morsing; check it! |
| 13:14.47 | IAmAI | What happens at FOSDEM? |
| 13:15.22 | Erwin | Rule 1 of FOSDEM: Do not talk about FOSDEM. |
| 13:15.40 | morsing | Rule 2 of FOSDEM: Drink beer |
| 13:15.44 | morsing | CHECK IT! |
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| 13:26.13 | new2unix | hi Leeds |
| 13:26.16 | IAmAI | Linux on iPod?!?! |
| 13:26.59 | IAmAI | ipodlinux.org/ |
| 13:28.04 | Leeds | evening new2unix |
| 13:30.19 | IAmAI | Also, Half-Life on iPod: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1867155040270429847 |
| 13:34.23 | Leeds | hmm...Harrow was founded 120 years after my school |
| 13:49.12 | Leeds | bunch of medics from Imperial... |
| 14:06.08 | morsing | Here it is: |
| 14:06.10 | morsing | http://www.siocommunications.co.uk/wiring.html |
| 14:07.41 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 14:20.28 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 14:21.21 | Leeds | what? |
| 14:29.08 | morsing | wethrin: Are you going to Telehouse again? |
| 14:31.02 | wethrin | morsing: Not at the moment, why? |
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| 15:26.04 | morsing | God I hate being here! |
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| 15:30.50 | morsing | Am I doing something wrong? |
| 15:31.29 | Leeds | in what sense? |
| 15:35.34 | morsing | Leeds: At work. |
| 15:35.51 | morsing | Leeds: Too complicated to explain over IRC really |
| 15:40.28 | Leeds | okay... |
| 16:02.39 | Leeds | midnight - sleep time |
| 16:09.21 | morsing | Check it! |
| 16:10.40 | wethrin | morsing: Hate being on IRC? Or at Camelot? |
| 16:10.46 | wethrin | And why did you ask if I was going to Telehouse again? |
| 16:11.35 | morsing | wethrin: Camelot |
| 16:11.49 | morsing | wethrin: Can't remember |
| 16:12.10 | Cope | woo |
| 16:12.11 | wethrin | Oh, okay |
| 16:12.20 | wethrin | I'll go back when I get some rails for the server |
| 16:12.25 | Leeds | morsing: so take my advice from earlier |
| 16:12.26 | wethrin | Maybe Cope can supply me with some :) |
| 16:12.34 | Cope | wethrin: some what? |
| 16:12.42 | wethrin | Racking kit for a Netra T1 |
| 16:13.31 | wethrin | cawfy-time! |
| 16:13.46 | morsing | Cope: It's not *that* good! |
| 16:20.25 | morsing | In Perl, how do I match "volume A00244 is mounted" *and* pull the volume name out? |
| 16:23.52 | Cope | morsing: it enables me to run, in full screen, exactly the environment I used to run |
| 16:24.04 | Cope | morsing: ie it allows me to have linux on a windows laptop |
| 16:25.51 | stephen | morsing: /volume (.*) is mounted/, then access $1 |
| 16:28.31 | morsing | Cope: So does Cygwin |
| 16:28.45 | morsing | stephen: Thanks - you're a genius :-) |
| 16:29.19 | Cope | morsing: you don't say! |
| 16:29.50 | Cope | morsing: however, cygwin is not a 'corporate' product, with 'support' and 'licenses' |
| 16:30.16 | Cope | therefore massive companies such as verizon/mci will never ever authorise its widespread use |
| 16:30.26 | Cope | I also need admin privs on my laptop to install / use it |
| 16:30.31 | Cope | it also requires configuration |
| 16:30.44 | Cope | and is more clunky than exceed and less mature |
| 16:30.50 | Cope | whereas exceed 'just works' |
| 16:31.01 | Cope | and is a 'supported' (ie legal) application |
| 16:34.02 | Cope | morsing: good luck, you need one around here |
| 17:21.45 | George | I just failed my maths module. |
| 17:21.46 | George | woo for me. |
| 17:21.57 | George | well, I didn't fail, because the script wasn't submitted |
| 17:22.03 | George | I would have probably got a C |
| 17:22.25 | George | maybe a B |
| 17:27.45 | wethrin | Heh |
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| 17:28.30 | wethrin | That was silly, George |
| 17:29.05 | George | don't care |
| 17:29.12 | George | I was the only person in my class doing it early |
| 17:29.19 | George | I'm still ahead of everyone else |
| 17:29.27 | wethrin | ha |
| 17:29.52 | murb | George: i'm sure with that attitude everyone in your class must love you! |
| 17:29.59 | George | mmm |
| 17:30.10 | George | I'm good friends with a lot of the guys in my class :) |
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| 21:06.13 | Cope | grrrr |
| 21:07.32 | z00dax | hola Cope |
| 21:08.03 | wethrin | heh |
| 21:11.21 | Cope | hi z00dax |
| 21:11.25 | Cope | hi wethrin |
| 21:11.31 | wethrin | hi Cope |
| 21:11.34 | Cope | wethrin: you're missing shostakovich |
| 21:11.43 | wethrin | Where? |
| 21:11.45 | Cope | radio 3 |
| 21:11.51 | wethrin | Which Shostakovich? |
| 21:11.57 | Cope | symphony #4 |
| 21:12.09 | wethrin | Got it on CD :) |
| 21:12.41 | Cope | :) |
| 21:12.54 | wethrin | "The Complete Symphonies"++ |
| 21:21.56 | z00dax | does RunDMC's version count ? |
| 21:23.54 | z00dax | :) |
| 21:24.00 | z00dax | you just gotta feel it you know. |
| 21:24.29 | Cope | i see |
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| 21:44.06 | Cope | lo Catalyst && lo Erwin |
| 21:44.14 | Catalyst | hi Cope :) |
| 21:44.16 | Erwin | evening |
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| 22:23.11 | Cope | evening rhowe |
| 22:41.16 | wethrin | Blarg |
| 22:48.33 | wethrin | nn Cope |
| 23:12.55 | George | lazy bugger |
| 23:16.54 | z00dax | that guy travels 3 hrs each way to and from work |
| 23:17.11 | z00dax | of the many things he might be - lazy does not , for some reason, seem apt here :) |
| 23:19.55 | wethrin | He only travels 3 hours each way when he's not out partying in London :) |
| 23:28.26 | JAV | hi all |
| 23:31.26 | Erwin | Great movie. One of my favourites last year. |
| 23:32.55 | Leeds | ugh |