irclog2html for #gllug on 20060123

`00:22.45`	`Leeds`	`ow, my knee`
`00:25.18`	`z00dax`	`Leeds, had dinner with an air-hostess from BA, aparently does the HK trip twice a month`
`00:25.44`	`z00dax`	`based on your post w.r.t prices - I've convinced her to get me a MacBook from that part of the world :)`
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`00:36.04`	`z00dax`	`OverworkedChild,`
`00:36.15`	`OverworkedChild`	`z00dax`
`00:36.29`	`AngelChild`	`compiler engineering is a lot harder than it seems xD`
`00:37.06`	`z00dax`	`I agree`
`00:37.48`	`wethrin`	`Heh`
`00:37.51`	`wethrin`	`It most likely is, yes`
`00:38.07`	`wethrin`	`night`
`00:38.11`	`z00dax`	`wethrin, nite`
`00:41.16`	`Leeds`	`z00dax: good work :-)`
`00:41.51`	`AngelChild`	`well, I spent the whole of today trying to understand how to write LL(1) parsers`
`00:53.09`	`Leeds`	`I had seafood buffet lunch in a private room on the deck of a floating restaurant, bought some DVDs, watched Dr. No, bbq buffet dinner with a former acting governor of Hong Kong, a professor, the cousins and a couple of other people, watched Napoleon Dynamite with a couple of friends, watched some of Goldfinger, then bed`
`00:54.20`	`AngelChild`	`full day :o`
`00:56.48`	`z00dax`	`Leeds, sounds like the life`
`00:59.13`	`Leeds`	`Saturday was Mexican for lunch, then bowling, then Chinese New Year party, then drinks, drinks, dancing, drinks, dancing`
`00:59.52`	`Leeds`	`and now waiting to hear about my lift to work... in fact, since it's 9am, I'm going to prod...`
`01:03.06`	`z00dax`	`with all that eating and drinking, watch the figure :)`
`01:04.01`	`Leeds`	`yeah, that's a problem... got to get a gym routine in, pretty urgently :-(`
`01:14.22`	`z00dax`	`ok, sleep time. Work week ahead`
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`04:51.20`	`Leeds`	`afternoon pdr`
`05:17.09`	`pdr`	`morning leeds`
`06:31.00`	`Leeds`	`pdr: how's it going?`
`06:31.40`	`pdr`	`not bad, and you?`
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`06:55.05`	`Leeds`	`good - had a nice weekend, now back into it`
`06:55.14`	`Leeds`	`morsing!`
`06:55.19`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Sounds great`
`06:55.21`	`morsing`	`Leeds!`
`06:55.54`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Who were you talking to?`
`06:56.07`	`Leeds`	`morsing: pdr...`
`06:56.17`	`morsing`	`'morning pdr!`
`06:56.31`	`pdr`	`morning`
`06:56.41`	`pdr`	`i'm only half here though`
`06:57.34`	`Leeds`	`where is the other half of you?`
`07:00.12`	`George`	`hi`
`07:00.42`	`Leeds`	`George: are you pdr's other half?`
`07:00.47`	`George`	`no`
`07:00.51`	`George`	`don't be ridiculous`
`07:01.23`	`morsing`	`George: Are you at the pub?`
`07:01.30`	`George`	`no`
`07:01.35`	`pdr`	`Leeds: in #fuckstix`
`07:01.35`	`George`	`I've got an exam in two hours`
`07:02.34`	`Leeds`	`pdr: uh, okay`
`07:03.19`	`pdr`	`Leeds: i needed to ask someone there for a favour. He runs a co-lo machine I use.`
`07:05.07`	`morsing`	`Aylesbury post office is in Watton-at-Stone according to my satnav!`
`07:07.23`	`Cope`	`morning`
`07:07.31`	`morsing`	`Cope!`
`07:07.34`	`Cope`	`hello morsing`
`07:07.39`	`morsing`	`How are you?`
`07:07.52`	`Cope`	`Great, thanks`
`07:09.08`	`Leeds`	`cope!`
`07:15.32`	`Cope`	`http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9071-2005367,00.html`
`07:15.39`	`Cope`	`That's mine, that is.`
`07:15.49`	`Cope`	`hello leeds`
`07:16.22`	`morsing`	`Yours?`
`07:21.28`	`morsing`	`Well done :-)`
`07:21.39`	`morsing`	`Where's the site?`
`07:22.36`	`Cope`	`mortgagebundles.com`
`07:23.34`	`Leeds`	`Cope: are you on commission?`
`07:23.37`	`George`	`I'M GOING TO FAIL THIS EXAM WOOYAY`
`07:23.47`	`Leeds`	`George: what exam is it?`
`07:23.48`	`morsing`	`George: Well done :-)`
`07:23.51`	`George`	`Leeds: chemistry`
`07:24.06`	`Leeds`	`George: do you know your elements?`
`07:24.06`	`Cope`	`Leeds: certainly not!`
`07:24.24`	`George`	`chemistry's for losers`
`07:24.26`	`George`	`:D`
`07:24.34`	`Leeds`	`"these are the only ones of which the news has come to Harvard, there may be many others but they haven't been discovered"`
`07:24.41`	`murb`	`and bomb makers`
`07:29.32`	`morsing`	`murb!`
`07:29.45`	`Leeds`	`hmm... a delivery from Pizza Hut just turned up :-)`
`07:29.56`	`morsing`	`murb: Where does the name 'murb' come from?`
`07:30.07`	`morsing`	`Leeds: What is it?`
`07:30.23`	`morsing`	`murble: Where does the name 'murble' come from`
`07:30.37`	`Leeds`	`morsing: well, I don't know, but I'm going to guess there's some pizza involved...`
`07:30.44`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Chilli?`
`07:30.58`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Have you eaten it yet?`
`07:31.44`	`murb`	`oh benzene rings`
`07:32.13`	`Leeds`	`not yet`
`07:32.26`	`morsing`	`oh onion rings`
`07:33.28`	`murb`	`yeah like onion rings`
`07:33.47`	`murb`	`(oh me)++`
`07:33.55`	`murb`	`finally got the nominet automation to not hate me.`
`07:34.04`	`morsing`	`murb: Why are you avoiding my question?`
`07:35.00`	`murb`	`you are confused.`
`07:35.59`	`morsing`	`I'm not`
`07:36.06`	`murb`	`good.`
`07:36.08`	`morsing`	`ibot murb`
`07:36.10`	`ibot`	`rumour has it, murb is bored, or not shiny, or faster than google`
`07:36.20`	`morsing`	`:-D`
`07:36.33`	`morsing`	`http://www.murb.com/home/index.php`
`07:36.54`	`Leeds`	`ibot murble`
`07:37.34`	`Leeds`	`morsing: that site has a "Paypal SPENDEN" button on it`
`07:37.56`	`morsing`	`Yes?`
`07:39.47`	`Leeds`	`I find the word SPENDEN amusing in that context`
`07:40.10`	`morsing`	`You've lost me`
`07:41.09`	`Leeds`	`yes, I suppose so`
`07:47.09`	`murb`	`s/EN/ing/ # does that help?`
`07:47.44`	`Leeds`	`I can guess what it means...`
`07:49.17`	`murb`	`can you guess what kostenlosen means?`
`07:49.31`	`Leeds`	`loadsamoney!`
`07:51.31`	`Cope`	`quite the opposite`
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`07:54.51`	`Cope`	`hello SlayerXP`
`07:57.15`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP!`
`07:59.01`	`SlayerXP`	`morning`
`07:59.01`	`SlayerXP`	`http://sig.grumpybumpers.com/mysql.gif`
`08:08.06`	`Leeds`	`for the record, it was a veggie pizza and a meaty one`
`08:15.06`	`Leeds`	`http://news.gov.hk/en/category/infrastructureandlogistics/060120/html/060120en06003.htm - government consulting on an anti-spam law`
`08:21.21`	`murb`	`Leeds: are they soliciting donations from spammers?`
`08:21.52`	`Leeds`	`donations?`
`08:22.51`	`Leeds`	`http://www.cis.rit.edu/mcsl/online/CIE/all_1nm_data.htm`
`08:24.16`	`murb`	`Leeds: well how do you influence goverment policy?`
`08:25.35`	`Leeds`	`in Hong Kong? recently, by getting a million or so of your best mates to go on a stroll through town with banners and so forth to make your views knows`
`08:25.40`	`Leeds`	`s/knows/known`
`08:27.21`	`Leeds`	`"Views on the proposals can be sent by post to the bureau at 2/F Murray Building, Garden Road, Hong Kong; by fax to 2511 1458 or by email to uem@citb.gov.hk by March 20."`
`08:27.40`	`Leeds`	`the question, of course, is what sort of anti-spam system they're running on that mailbox`
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`09:42.43`	`kbsingh`	`$TZ Greetings!`
`09:44.35`	`Leeds`	`shalom`
`09:45.19`	`Cope`	`kb!`
`09:54.34`	`morsing`	`kbsingh!`
`09:55.04`	`kbsingh`	`hey, Leeds, Cope & morsing!`
`10:18.07`	`rhowe`	`woo, FOSDEM approved as a company trip`
`10:18.51`	`morsing`	`rhowe: How?`
`10:19.20`	`Cope`	`morsing: presumably: rhowe: Can I go to FOSDEM as a company trip? iTron: Yes`
`10:19.27`	`murb`	`rhowe: you have a company card?`
`10:19.36`	`murb`	`s/card/credit &/`
`10:20.00`	`murb`	`ibot: please learn sed about sed.`
`10:20.27`	`murb`	`s#sed##`
`10:22.49`	`Leeds`	`rhowe: woo`
`10:23.29`	`murb`	`Leeds: you should do that as well.`
`10:23.41`	`rhowe`	`murb: Nope`
`10:23.54`	`rhowe`	`morsing: I said "I'm going to FOSDEM. Fancy paying?"`
`10:24.31`	`Leeds`	`murb: last year they paid for me to go to a Linux conference in Sri Lanka - that was a relatively easy sell... getting them to pay for me to go drinking for the weekend in Brussels is likely to be less easy`
`10:26.09`	`murb`	`rhowe: first class on eurostar?`
`10:27.48`	`morsing`	`Cope: Who's iTron?`
`10:28.35`	`morsing`	`rhowe: And he knows that FOSDEM has nothing to do with your work?`
`10:29.09`	`Leeds`	`morsing: iTron is rhowe's boss and occasional #gllug visitor`
`10:29.31`	`Leeds`	`the one who is moving to Japan`
`10:30.13`	`wethrin`	`morning`
`10:30.16`	`morsing`	`wethrin!`
`10:30.21`	`morsing`	`You're up :-P`
`10:30.28`	`wethrin`	`Yes. I have breakfast and a headache`
`10:36.02`	`Leeds`	`hometime`
`10:38.48`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Why?`
`10:39.36`	`wethrin`	`Breakfast is good`
`10:39.42`	`morsing`	`So is beer`
`10:43.07`	`wethrin`	`Yes`
`10:45.36`	`wethrin`	`I like beer`
`10:45.40`	`wethrin`	`I had whisky yesterday`
`10:45.41`	`wethrin`	`And some beer`
`10:46.05`	`wethrin`	`rhowe: ping?`
`10:59.00`	`rhowe`	`pong`
`10:59.15`	`rhowe`	`murb: Unlikely`
`11:02.14`	`rhowe`	`In other news, it now seems certain that me and Jia are getting togethr`
`11:02.16`	`rhowe`	`s/r$/er/`
`11:02.39`	`rhowe`	`ibot: Admit it, you're a buggy POS`
`11:04.51`	`Cope`	`rhowe: you don't hang around`
`11:04.55`	`Cope`	`I thought she already had a bf`
`11:06.06`	`rhowe`	`Cope: She's made up her mind to tell him it's over`
`11:06.28`	`rhowe`	`Cope: Did I mention that we aim to be living together by the start of March?`
`11:09.39`	`Cope`	`you didn't`
`11:10.04`	`rhowe`	`Oh, well that's the plan`
`11:10.17`	`Cope`	`given that you failed to call me back and let me know which pub you were attending`
`11:13.52`	`rhowe`	`you called?`
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`11:14.03`	`rhowe`	`brb phone call`
`11:14.27`	`Cope`	`rhowe: I did`
`11:14.41`	`rhowe`	`which number? The one ending in 702?`
`11:15.55`	`murb`	`do phobile moans support redirection of calls when the call setup to the mobile has already ahppened like you cand o with isdn?`
`11:17.07`	`kbsingh`	`iirc, GSM does let you do that`
`11:18.52`	`morsing`	`Leeds!`
`11:22.07`	`morsing`	`Chewck it!`
`11:22.17`	`morsing`	`s/chewck/check/`
`11:22.30`	`morsing`	`ibot you suck`
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`11:23.30`	`morsing`	`Erwin!`
`11:25.35`	`Erwin`	`morning`
`11:26.43`	`Leeds`	`Cock it!`
`11:31.47`	`morsing`	`Yeah Erwin, cock it!`
`11:37.19`	`Leeds`	`mmm... 365 KiB/s torrenting :-)`
`11:37.48`	`murb`	`not that fast.`
`11:38.22`	`Leeds`	`considering this is a home connection, it's plenty fast`
`11:39.28`	`murb`	`3mb?`
`11:39.59`	`Leeds`	`4mb peak`
`11:40.07`	`morsing`	`Any TSM gurus here?`
`11:42.59`	`Cope`	`Please can I ask if its ok to ask whether anyone in here know if anyone here is an expert in whether its ok to ask meta questions?`
`11:44.38`	`Cope`	`ibot metaquestions is Please can I ask if its ok to ask whether anyone in here knows if anyone here is an expert in whether its ok to ask meta questions?`
`11:44.41`	`ibot`	`okay, Cope`
`11:44.55`	`Cope`	`ibot tell morsing about metaquestions`
`11:45.13`	`murb`	`ibot, foad.`
`11:45.14`	`ibot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, foad is \"fuck off and die\". Considered by many to be impolite.`
`11:48.12`	`Leeds`	`morsing: wtf is TSM anyway?`
`11:48.35`	`Cope`	`Leeds: tivoli storage manager`
`11:48.37`	`stephen`	`Tivoli Storage Manager, IBM's backup software`
`11:48.44`	`Leeds`	`oh`
`11:48.55`	`Cope`	`tivoli was one of my cleints before ibm bought them`
`11:49.48`	`wethrin`	`Cope: Well, it might be reasonable to ask a short question like morsing's first, to save typing out a long question just to find no-one can help`
`11:50.10`	`Cope`	`ibot: calculate the probability that in a channel full of linux users, with a few solaris/*bsd users on the side, that anyone is likely to be a tivoli expert other than the only aix user (in the uk), who happens to be asking the question.`
`11:50.12`	`ibot`	`Cope: what are you talking about?`
`11:50.18`	`Cope`	`ibot: complete rubbish`
`11:51.06`	`wethrin`	`Looking at the sort of people here, though, you seem to be the most likely one to have TSM experience`
`11:52.21`	`Leeds`	`Cope: morsing is relying on you`
`11:53.29`	`wethrin`	`VNB?`
`11:53.29`	`Cope`	`but not TSM`
`11:53.32`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Tivoli Storage Manager`
`11:53.35`	`morsing`	`How many times...`
`11:53.38`	`Cope`	`Veritas NetBackup`
`11:53.42`	`wethrin`	`Ahh`
`11:53.58`	`Cope`	`morsing: my colleague knows a little bit`
`11:54.23`	`morsing`	`Leeds, wethrin: If you don't know what TSM is then you're not a guru so why bother spelling it out?`
`11:54.31`	`wethrin`	`Actually, rhowe may be likely to know`
`11:54.35`	`wethrin`	`morsing: I know what it stands for!`
`11:54.46`	`wethrin`	`But I've never used it`
`11:54.53`	`Cope`	`morsing: what's the quetsion? I'll ask him`
`11:55.02`	`morsing`	`Cope: No!`
`11:55.04`	`morsing`	`Wait...`
`11:55.07`	`Cope`	`ok!`
`11:55.11`	`Cope`	`ibot seen seamus`
`11:55.13`	`ibot`	`seamus <i=seamus@host86-139-88-216.range86-139.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 1d 17h 13m 20s ago, saying: 'I meant hosting plans. Anyway will take a look.'.`
`11:55.25`	`wethrin`	`Cope: Is seamus your colleague?`
`11:55.43`	`Cope`	`wethrin: nope - a chap who wanted a managed hosting solution for tomcat`
`11:55.46`	`wethrin`	`ONE MEEEEELION POUNDS?`
`11:55.47`	`morsing`	`select DATE_TIME,SEVERITY,MESSAGE,ORIGINATOR from actlog where MESSAGE like '%DISMOUNT FAILURE%' and date_time >current time - 1hour`
`11:55.54`	`morsing`	`Cope: The above select statement gives:`
`11:56.03`	`morsing`	`ANR2916E The SQL data types TIMESTAMP and TIME are incompatible for operator`
`11:56.03`	`morsing`	`'>'.`
`11:56.08`	`morsing`	`So how do I do it then?`
`11:56.13`	`Cope`	`'escape > ?`
`11:56.17`	`wethrin`	`Can you convert TIME to a TIMESTAMP?`
`11:56.29`	`Cope`	`or rather put a space after`
`11:56.38`	`Cope`	`if it does what I think it does`
`11:56.42`	`morsing`	`Cope: Escape how?`
`11:56.46`	`morsing`	`wethrin: How?`
`11:56.53`	`morsing`	`Cope: Tried a space...`
`11:57.06`	`Cope`	`morsing: that was my first thought before I engaged brain, and realised you meant greater than`
`11:57.09`	`morsing`	`Cope: I want to search back one hour`
`11:57.13`	`wethrin`	`morsing: I don't know. Looks more like SQL issues rather than TSM specifically`
`11:57.17`	`Cope`	`wethrin: indeed`
`11:57.31`	`wethrin`	`Is date_time a TIMESTAMP?`
`11:57.32`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Well, yes, it's supposed to be SQL but has it's oddities`
`11:57.43`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Yes - I believe so`
`11:59.22`	`morsing`	`Ahh... I think on of hour DBAs figured it out`
`11:59.28`	`morsing`	`time should be timestamp`
`11:59.37`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Was this what you were getting at?`
`12:00.53`	`wethrin`	`yeah`
`12:01.06`	`wethrin`	`So you want "current timestamp" rather than "current time"?`
`12:02.42`	`Leeds`	`29 minutes of decent-quality video in 175MB`
`12:03.24`	`wethrin`	`That's reasonable`
`12:04.07`	`Leeds`	`608x336/25fps is pretty hard to do well in 768kb/s in mpeg4/divx/xvid/etc.`
`12:04.55`	`wethrin`	`True....`
`12:06.42`	`Leeds`	`it's not perfect, but considering this is a panel quiz, it doesn't matter so much`
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`12:12.10`	`Erwin`	`that's one weird product: a mouse and a voip phone: http://www.phoneyworld.com/newspage.aspx?n=1749`
`12:22.28`	`rhowe`	`whee`
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`12:51.19`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Yes`
`12:51.24`	`morsing`	`boudiccas!`
`12:55.28`	`morsing`	`Check it!`
`13:00.29`	`rhowe`	`mmm, tasty lunch`
`13:00.58`	`morsing`	`Not mine :-(`
`13:01.12`	`morsing`	`Robin has no money so we can't go to the italian!`
`13:01.55`	`rhowe`	`Jia made me a bento box yesterday :)`
`13:01.58`	`morsing`	`Mmm... Mushrooms`
`13:02.05`	`morsing`	`Mmm... bento`
`13:02.31`	`rhowe`	`mm, japanese rice`
`13:04.24`	`Leeds`	`mmm... Airplane! :-)`
`13:05.01`	`morsing`	`Mmm... Faye`
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`13:23.16`	`morsing`	`boudiccas!`
`13:25.26`	`Leeds`	`http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1290293/`
`13:34.40`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Is that you?`
`13:41.42`	`Leeds`	`nope. Otto`
`13:44.01`	`SlayerXP`	`today I redesigned my website`
`13:44.20`	`SlayerXP`	`it no longer looks like a vi session coredumped into a docroot by accident`
`13:44.34`	`SlayerXP`	`it now looks like the coredump was intentional`
`13:45.07`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP: URL?`
`13:45.18`	`SlayerXP`	`http://www.hinterlands.irg/`
`13:45.19`	`SlayerXP`	`err`
`13:45.21`	`SlayerXP`	`http://www.hinterlands.org/`
`13:46.17`	`Leeds`	`I am serious, and don't call me Shirley`
`13:46.26`	`morsing`	`Why hinterlands?`
`13:47.08`	`SlayerXP`	`what does the third paragraph say?`
`13:47.46`	`morsing`	`Send me your CV?!`
`13:49.40`	`SlayerXP`	`no :)`
`13:54.12`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP: Under projects then?`
`13:54.33`	`SlayerXP`	`eh?`
`13:54.42`	`morsing`	`13:46 < morsing> Why hinterlands?`
`13:54.42`	`morsing`	`13:47 < SlayerXP> what does the third paragraph say?`
`13:54.52`	`SlayerXP`	`yes, the third paragraph on the page`
`13:55.05`	`SlayerXP`	`the one starting "The domain name comes from"`
`13:55.06`	`morsing`	`Not the second then?`
`14:02.31`	`morsing`	`Check it`
`14:07.24`	`murb`	`a second job?`
`14:07.26`	`Leeds`	`a transfer?`
`14:07.51`	`wethrin`	`Urgh. Glasgow. :-P`
`14:07.54`	`murb`	`a downgrade.`
`14:21.14`	`morsing`	`Cope: We need someone here at Camelot`
`14:22.00`	`SlayerXP`	`morsing: to do what?`
`14:22.19`	`SlayerXP`	`Chief Debian Protagonist`
`14:22.23`	`Erwin`	`to push the pram a lot ?`
`14:24.31`	`morsing`	`What?`
`14:26.37`	`wethrin`	`Monty Python`
`14:30.26`	`morsing`	`Check it!`
`14:44.45`	`Cope`	`a different job`
`15:03.11`	`rhowe`	`Cope: Looks like me and Jia will be living together come the start of March`
`15:04.37`	`Cope`	`good good`
`15:04.58`	`Cope`	`so she has a job, visa, etc?`
`15:05.14`	`rhowe`	`no, no :P`
`15:05.30`	`Cope`	`right`
`15:05.35`	`rhowe`	`Looks like me and Jia will be married come the start of 2007`
`15:05.57`	`rhowe`	`and househunting`
`15:06.28`	`Cope`	`ok`
`15:06.49`	`SlayerXP`	`rhowe: congrats to you both. how long have you known him?`
`15:07.52`	`rhowe`	`SlayerXP: Oh, I've known her a good 6 months now :P`
`15:09.18`	`murb`	`non aryan files will be deleted?`
`15:09.44`	`SlayerXP`	`been ages since I've had to threaten a user over disk space`
`15:09.54`	`rhowe`	`SlayerXP: This is more about backup tape capacity`
`15:10.04`	`SlayerXP`	`that's what I mean`
`15:10.52`	`SlayerXP`	`I wrote a policy document along the lines of "The backup system isn't for your warez, porn and music."`
`15:11.22`	`murb`	`unless critial for business?`
`15:11.42`	`murb`	`what happens if you are a profii warezr?`
`15:13.35`	`rhowe`	`This is more about duplicate files all over the place`
`15:13.56`	`murb`	`you could md5sum everything..`
`15:13.57`	`rhowe`	`Our users don't store such things on the server, and most are too busy to accumulate such things at all`
`15:14.16`	`SlayerXP`	`# Roses are red, violets blue`
`15:14.23`	`SlayerXP`	`# I deleted all your porn`
`15:14.29`	`SlayerXP`	`# Pack in the boo-hoo-hoos`
`16:09.29`	`Cope`	`if I have a number of lines of the form indexSID where SID is an Oracle SID - I know how, in sed, to replace eg indexORCL with index ORCL - but how do I make it generically replace index{anything_in_caps} with index {anything_in_caps} so it works for any SID?`
`16:12.22`	`rhowe`	`s/index([A-Z]+)/index \1/`
`16:12.41`	`rhowe`	`Cope: You'll need to add \'s for the ( and ) I think, and perhaps the + too`
`16:13.26`	`rhowe`	`echo indexSDASD\|sed -e 's/index$[A-Z]\+$/index \1/'`
`16:13.26`	`rhowe`	`index SDASD`
`16:21.29`	`Cope`	`rhowe: works fine`
`16:23.58`	`rhowe`	`Which bit were you having trouble with? The backreference (\1) or thinking of the ([A-Z]+) pattern?`
`16:37.17`	`Cope`	`the backreference`
`16:40.10`	`rhowe`	`Ah right.. \1 refers to whatever the first set of parentheses matched against`
`16:40.16`	`rhowe`	`\2 the second set, etc`
`16:40.29`	`rhowe`	`And, & matches the whole of the matched text`
`16:40.35`	`rhowe`	`s/matches/refers/`
`16:40.48`	`rhowe`	`s/the/to the/`
`16:41.50`	`rhowe`	`s/matches (the)/refers to \1/`
`16:42.01`	`rhowe`	`s/matches $the$/refers to \1/`
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`19:43.49`	`morsing`	`Erwin!`
`19:45.24`	`morsing`	`What is an .m3u file? Is it supposed to go on the CD?`
`19:48.00`	`eye69`	`morsing: It's just a listing of the songs in an album.`
`19:48.37`	`morsing`	`eye69: Used for...?`
`19:48.57`	`morsing`	`What if I delete it?`
`19:49.24`	`eye69`	`Having a single file representing an album. You can make an .m3u file containing eg. all Trance albums in your collection.`
`19:49.52`	`eye69`	`I never use .m3u's. It's your choice if you want it.`
`19:50.09`	`morsing`	`But some of them seems to be empty and my mp3 car stereo seems to ignore those tracks`
`19:50.14`	`morsing`	`So I can delete them?`
`19:50.29`	`eye69`	`My car stereo doesn't read .m3u's either.`
`19:50.43`	`morsing`	`Deleted...`
`19:50.43`	`eye69`	`You can safely delete them if it's for a car stereo.`
`19:53.37`	`eye69`	`morsing: My MP3 CD's are just folders named "Artist - Album" containing "SongNumber-Artist - Song.mp3"`
`19:54.56`	`eye69`	`morsing: What stereo is it?`
`19:55.33`	`morsing`	`eye69: Kenwood`
`19:55.50`	`morsing`	`eye69: Which options do you use with mkisofs?`
`19:56.04`	`morsing`	`-l?`
`19:57.29`	`eye69`	`-J -l`
`19:59.02`	`morsing`	`Hmm... It's says to files have the same Joliet name and that using RR is highly recommended`
`19:59.08`	`morsing`	`Do I need Joliet?`
`19:59.57`	`eye69`	`Joliet is good to have.`
`20:31.30`	`morsing`	`sigh`
`20:38.24`	`wethrin`	`morsing?`
`20:48.02`	`morsing`	`wethrin?`
`20:48.19`	`wethrin`	`why the sigh?`
`20:48.51`	`George`	`because he's a sausage`
`20:48.53`	`George`	`and sausages sigh`
`20:48.57`	`wethrin`	`shush`
`20:49.20`	`George`	`hehe`
`20:49.38`	`morsing`	`wethrin: The latest CDs I've ripper are in a wrong format or something. MPEG 1.0 layer 2?!`
`20:49.46`	`wethrin`	`mp2`
`20:49.56`	`wethrin`	`It should be playable by most MP3 players`
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`23:54.40`	`George`	`hello lovely people`

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