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03:16.39 | Leeds | woohoo - early closing for the hols! :-) |
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06:14.39 | Cope | urgh morning |
06:14.47 | Leeds | hello |
06:14.58 | Cope | hi Leeds |
06:22.09 | Leeds | only an hour left of the week - woohoo! |
06:30.03 | Leeds | I suspect that we are 0wned |
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06:48.53 | Leeds | http://asiapages.typepad.com/the_asia_pages/2006/01/not_without_my_.html |
06:49.00 | Leeds | and hello SlayerXP |
06:49.07 | SlayerXP | morning |
07:21.54 | Leeds | http://www.alaskaalpineclub.org/IceTower/IceTowers.html |
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07:34.35 | Leeds | morsing! |
07:34.49 | morsing | Leeds! |
07:39.29 | Leeds | give me my jacket back! |
07:39.38 | morsing | No! |
07:39.58 | morsing | corrupt.label corrupt |
07:40.04 | morsing | Forever? |
07:40.37 | Leeds | for the long weekend... 4.something day weekend |
07:41.16 | morsing | (test -d deferred && find deferred -type f ) | wc -l |
07:42.51 | Leeds | ibot convert -50 f to c |
07:43.05 | morsing | Wow cold in HK today? |
07:43.29 | gregj | pogoda.onet.pl |
07:43.34 | gregj | see how cold it is in PL |
07:43.42 | morsing | gregj! You're up :-) |
07:43.43 | gregj | it was -30 in some parts on Monday |
07:43.45 | gregj | that's cold |
07:43.50 | gregj | I am always up :P |
07:45.41 | Leeds | that's in Alaska |
07:45.56 | morsing | Leeds: No - Poland is in Europe |
07:46.01 | Leeds | in HK, it's maybe 17 degrees today - going to rain over the weekend, apparently |
07:47.00 | gregj | it was -9 Tuesday during the day, -21 at night up here |
07:47.07 | gregj | now it's -6, was -15 at night |
07:47.16 | gregj | we have record teperatures |
07:47.24 | gregj | it wasn't like that since 60ies |
07:47.37 | gregj | Vistula is completly frozen (the river) |
07:48.08 | gregj | it is not as clea as it was past II WW, when you could literaly drive across, ice was so thick |
07:48.28 | Leeds | as long as it's dry on Monday night, I'll be happy |
07:49.02 | Leeds | for a combination of http://www.saffron-cruises.com/fireworks_hong_kong.php and http://www.rachelinhongkong.com |
07:49.29 | gregj | what is it about ? |
07:49.36 | gregj | some kind of holiday? |
07:50.01 | morsing | Check it! |
07:50.03 | Leeds | Chinese New Year, dude! :-) |
07:50.23 | Leeds | one of the side bonuses of living in China - I now get, count 'em, 3 New Years to celebrate :-) |
07:50.40 | gregj | oh, yes |
07:50.44 | gregj | silly me |
07:50.45 | gregj | :P |
07:50.56 | gregj | we only have Vietnamise up here, no chinesse |
07:51.05 | SlayerXP | fg |
07:51.10 | morsing | bg |
07:51.10 | gregj | bg |
07:51.12 | gregj | :] |
07:51.22 | SlayerXP | kill -9 morsing |
07:51.28 | Leeds | fg: current: no such job |
07:51.31 | gregj | expell -9 SlayerXP |
07:53.05 | morsing | echo $SlayerXP |
07:55.54 | Leeds | kung hei fat choi, y'all - time for me to head off :-) |
07:56.01 | morsing | Chewck it |
08:00.14 | morsing | :-( |
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08:38.49 | morsing | vikas_m? Not the Vikas that sits two desks away from me, are you? |
08:39.01 | morsing | Leeds! |
08:41.47 | Leeds | morsing! |
08:41.49 | Leeds | vikas_m! |
09:15.08 | morsing | Bye |
09:24.17 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
09:24.48 | Cope | good mornin |
09:25.57 | Cope | g |
09:38.08 | morsing | Cope! |
09:39.03 | Cope | hello morsing |
09:39.11 | Cope | we've just started doing aix :() |
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09:46.52 | morsing | wethrin? |
09:46.55 | morsing | Gonzo! |
09:51.54 | morsing | emil:/usr/lib/nagios/plugins# ./check_mailq -debug |
10:13.00 | morsing | Could not load module /usr/opt/perl5/lib/5.8.2/RRDs.so. |
10:14.45 | morsing | Dependent module /usr/local/lib/librrd.a(librrd.so) |
10:15.02 | morsing | Is it saying it's looking for librrd.so? That file doesn't exist |
10:17.58 | morsing | Hello? |
10:22.04 | Leeds | hello |
10:22.44 | morsing | 10:15 < morsing> Is it saying it's looking for librrd.so? That file doesn't |
10:22.44 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
10:23.00 | Leeds | I have no idea |
10:27.58 | Leeds | dinnertime! |
10:30.05 | morsing | Mmm... dinner |
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11:00.05 | morsing | mikejw! |
11:00.07 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
11:00.32 | SlayerXP | hi |
11:00.37 | morsing | Check it! |
11:07.29 | mikejw | yo :) |
11:07.32 | morsing | Have you all remembered to buy your Euromillions ticket to freedom |
11:07.33 | morsing | ? |
11:07.42 | morsing | mikejw: Have you? |
11:07.56 | mikejw | I not sure I have :S |
11:08.02 | mikejw | *I'm |
11:08.11 | morsing | You're not sure? Well, get started |
11:08.18 | morsing | Go to http://www.national-lottery.co.uk |
11:12.22 | morsing | Does anyone know why Firefox can't do auto reload anymore? |
11:32.08 | morsing | George: Buy a ticket! |
11:34.53 | George | for? |
11:35.42 | stephen | the stupidity tax |
12:18.42 | Cope | lol |
12:18.55 | Cope | stephen: well said |
12:24.00 | Erwin | Well, I bought my tickets to keep morsing employed :P |
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12:31.46 | Cope | woo AngelChild |
12:31.59 | AngelChild | woo Cope |
12:32.00 | AngelChild | :) |
12:33.55 | Cope | sweet |
12:34.34 | AngelChild | I actually enjoyed it, though I didn't actually know where it was until I got there |
12:34.47 | AngelChild | (it was on a campus I've never been to before off the Avenue) |
12:34.48 | Cope | spiritual |
12:35.20 | AngelChild | and now I'm sitting listening to a new CD I got the other day by VNV Nation and writing little 3D game demo applications :) |
12:42.23 | morsing | AngelChild! |
12:42.57 | AngelChild | morsing! |
12:43.01 | AngelChild | oh that reminds me |
12:43.06 | angelchild | xD |
12:43.07 | morsing | :-) |
12:45.32 | morsing | Why doesn't this work? |
12:45.38 | morsing | $cmd="(test -d /var/spool/postfix/deferred && /usr/bin/find /var/spool/postfix/deferred -type f ) | /usr/bin/wc -l |"; |
12:45.41 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
12:45.47 | morsing | IT just hangs? |
12:47.53 | morsing | Hello? |
12:48.28 | morsing | SlayerXP? |
12:50.36 | morsing | Ahh.. I got it working now |
13:12.54 | Leeds | mmm... dinner |
13:13.42 | morsing | Mmm... Perl |
13:21.13 | SlayerXP | yes? |
13:22.41 | Leeds | ugh, Perl |
13:25.04 | murb | urgle why are you using shell in perl? |
13:27.00 | z00dax | home sick today! |
13:27.01 | Leeds | woo, payday! |
13:27.12 | Leeds | z00dax: get well soon |
13:27.41 | Leeds | oh, and I got an email from the local 3 - been accepted onto their 6-month free trial :-) |
13:30.08 | z00dax | Leeds, I'll try, ty |
13:31.24 | morsing | Check it! |
13:32.32 | George | the royal mail has FAILED ME! |
13:33.06 | SlayerXP | morsing: that's truely awful perl for several reasons |
13:33.46 | morsing | SlayerXP: I'm glad to hear |
13:33.56 | morsing | SlayerXP: Why? |
13:35.10 | SlayerXP | well, basically you say "dear bash, please execute this perl." then perl says "dear bash, please execute this shell" |
13:35.24 | SlayerXP | plus you seem to have postfix installed |
13:37.49 | morsing | SlayerXP: That method is used by Nagios modules which is what I'm editing/writing |
13:37.58 | morsing | SlayerXP: Tell the Nagios people |
13:38.18 | morsing | SlayerXP: It's because of Perls limitations that they do it that way |
13:46.40 | murb | morsing: or limitations in their perl ability? |
13:46.41 | morsing | SlayerXP? |
13:46.59 | morsing | murb: Give a better suggestion then |
13:48.56 | murb | no, i'm busy trying to work. |
13:51.34 | morsing | Ha ha |
13:51.44 | morsing | murb: You just don't know... |
13:53.29 | rhowe | http://bash.org/?605550 |
13:53.42 | eye69 | It's scary that there are so many mailservers that don't report a correct HELO. |
13:54.21 | murb | eye69: there are good reasons for it being incorrect. |
13:54.25 | murb | atleast the hostname. |
13:54.41 | murb | i certainly don't try and valid date it as i'd drop lots of legitimate email. |
13:54.53 | murb | actually i think people who claim to be me get a 30 second delay. |
13:58.19 | Erwin | greylisting is pretty effective apparently -- temporarily denying unknown hosts for a few minutes; bulk mailers never try to resend |
13:58.44 | morsing | Erwin: I just deny unknown hosts |
13:58.51 | morsing | Very efficient |
14:01.21 | murb | Erwin: but it fails to scale. |
14:05.34 | Cope | mmm pizza |
14:08.39 | rhowe | It is also inevitable that it will be rendered ineffective |
14:08.55 | rhowe | If greylisting became widely deployed, the spammers would just start retrying connections |
14:17.24 | JAV | afternoon |
14:22.20 | morsing | Check it |
14:31.13 | Cope | ok |
14:33.56 | SlayerXP | rhowe: _why_ ? |
14:34.03 | rhowe | SlayerXP: To install Windows |
14:34.12 | SlayerXP | ... |
14:34.19 | rhowe | http://unattended.sf.net/ |
14:34.37 | rhowe | oh, genius. It's broken. |
14:34.42 | rhowe | ../sysdeps/ieee754/dbl-64/s_isinf.c:29: error: ‘isinf’ aliased to undefined symbol ‘__isinf’ |
14:34.57 | SlayerXP | i still fail to see why you're compiling stuff |
14:35.15 | rhowe | Their packaged release is broken |
14:35.29 | rhowe | or at least incomplete |
14:35.38 | SlayerXP | i still fail to see why you're compiling glibc |
14:35.50 | rhowe | It's part of the build process |
14:36.28 | rhowe | OK, the answer is not to use gcc 4.x to compile glibc 2.3.x |
14:44.31 | rhowe | hm, ye bye ocaml |
14:44.37 | rhowe | s/ye/bye/ |
14:54.22 | rhowe | OK, time to head to the city |
14:56.38 | eye69 | I just enabled greylisting on my server...will see if it helps |
15:03.05 | morsing | eye69: s/greylisting/reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname/ |
16:34.41 | morsing | Moo |
16:36.23 | Cope | se |
16:39.26 | Leeds | foo |
16:43.16 | Cope | :) |
16:44.18 | morsing | Foose |
16:44.32 | morsing | NEwcastle |
16:44.59 | Cope | SOuthampton |
16:46.31 | morsing | RIngkobing |
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16:48.16 | formi | ping murb |
16:48.43 | Cope | unknown host murb |
16:48.54 | formi | Cope |
16:48.58 | Leeds | BTW, I may have mentioned the 3G test here? got my confirmation mail and SMS through this evening |
16:49.01 | Leeds | morning formi |
16:49.10 | formi | hi leeds |
16:49.27 | morsing | formi! |
16:49.31 | morsing | bye formi |
16:49.34 | formi | and go to fosdem this year |
16:49.37 | Cope | yay! |
16:49.40 | Cope | formi: me too! |
16:49.56 | formi | im about to request days off |
16:49.58 | morsing | Me too |
16:50.29 | formi | should friday + monday be enough ? |
16:50.38 | morsing | Check it! |
16:50.52 | Leeds | formi: you can take my place - I can't make it |
16:50.56 | Leeds | and you don't need Monday off |
16:51.09 | formi | I have days to kill |
16:51.46 | Leeds | I'm not saying you *can't* take Monday off, but there's not much point in sticking around Brussels on Monday - the only thing it gives you is Sunday evening there, and most people have left |
16:52.32 | Leeds | a lot of the 'tourist' stuff in Brussels is closed on Mondays |
16:52.41 | Cope | home |
16:52.49 | formi | are you saying the main interesting part is Friday night and Sat are the main days |
16:53.42 | formi | is there any gllug "group" making plans |
16:53.55 | JAV | formi: won't you miss carnival? |
16:55.23 | Leeds | Friday and Saturday are the main nights, the conference runs until 6pm-ish on Saturday and 3pm-ish on Sunday |
16:55.24 | Leeds | IIRC |
16:56.46 | wethrin | Cope: I sent your watch off today |
16:57.33 | z00dax | wethrin, watch from sincity ? |
16:58.03 | wethrin | No :) |
16:59.01 | z00dax | dayum |
17:01.10 | formi | so nothing being organised in trms of going together? |
17:02.52 | Leeds | formi: yes, there is - could be that the people doing the organising aren't here now |
17:04.25 | formi | ill have to keep an eye on the channel |
17:05.27 | Leeds | there were a load of mails on gllug-social about it |
17:06.39 | wethrin | formi: aren't you on the Social mailing list? |
17:06.45 | wethrin | Fewer people are travelling together this year |
17:07.45 | formi | im on the main gllug admin list, as it is a good way of wathching spam fly by |
17:08.14 | wethrin | indeed |
17:08.30 | formi | but i dont even know where the social list is hosted at |
17:09.03 | wethrin | http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/social |
17:14.30 | formi | i have read the post |
17:14.54 | formi | the organization is brilliantly absent |
17:15.52 | formi | ill give pdr a ring |
17:16.51 | formi | he's changed his mobile number |
17:20.33 | wethrin | What sort of organisation do you want? :) People just happen to be travelling at different times this year |
17:21.45 | formi | well people just say I am going by on x at y time |
17:24.45 | wethrin | Yeah, so people travelling on a particular train can meet up; otherwise we all just meet in Brussels centre |
17:28.16 | formi | well im off home |
17:32.30 | Erwin | This game is fun -- type in the common tag for flickr for ranodm images before time runs out -- http://slane.bradley.edu/games/fastr/ |
17:35.44 | Leeds | time for bed |
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17:38.46 | morsing | mikejw! |
17:38.46 | mikejw | yo :) |
17:39.20 | wethrin | mikejw: Will you share your winnings with Gllug if you win? :) |
17:41.03 | morsing | wethrin: If?! |
17:41.09 | morsing | I gave him the numbers |
17:41.27 | wethrin | You never gave me the numbers :( |
17:48.48 | Erwin | So, how much of the 100 mill will be there after tax? :) |
17:49.18 | wethrin | Do you get taxed on lottery winnings? |
17:50.48 | Erwin | Well, you do in other countries |
17:51.15 | Erwin | And is it actual cash? In e.g. US such large winners are either full amount over like 20 years, or half of it right now |
17:52.27 | wethrin | I think it's a cheque. But morsing should know |
17:56.45 | morsing | It's a cheque I believe |
17:56.57 | morsing | Well, it is... |
17:57.33 | Erwin | Even if I'd have a 100 million, I still wouldn't get a direct phone number to my bank branch. |
17:57.35 | morsing | The Euromillions check about six months ago was the worlds biggest check ever |
17:59.01 | angelchild | that fastr game's cool :D |
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18:17.33 | morsing | Kitty! |
18:17.49 | morsing | Have you bought your Euromillions ticket yet? |
18:31.27 | z00dax | morsing, how many did you get |
18:32.32 | morsing | How many what? |
18:32.42 | z00dax | tickets |
18:32.50 | morsing | I'm not allowed :-( |
18:32.58 | z00dax | why ? |
18:33.07 | z00dax | i didnt realise there were people excluded |
18:33.18 | z00dax | no wait, nevermind. I know why you are not allowed |
18:34.42 | wethrin | because he does actually draw the numbers |
18:34.57 | wethrin | If it was really random and hence unriggable, they'd be allowed to buy |
18:37.01 | z00dax | i agree |
19:19.08 | morsing | :-) |
19:23.13 | George | uncouth woman |
19:23.28 | angelchild | unsubtle boy |
19:25.04 | morsing | OK: OK - 87 processes found |
19:29.31 | z00dax | morsing, how'se your danish ? |
19:34.27 | morsing | z00dax: Ok I suppose |
19:34.34 | morsing | boudiccas! |
19:35.06 | boudiccas | yes? |
19:35.13 | morsing | z00dax: Why? |
19:35.16 | morsing | boudiccas: Hi |
19:35.48 | boudiccas | morsing; are you running centos? |
19:36.36 | morsing | No - why? |
19:36.40 | morsing | z00dax: Why? |
19:37.16 | boudiccas | morsing; VERSION xchat 2.4.0 Linux 2.6.9-22.0.1.EL is what you're running, the same as me on a centos box |
19:38.03 | boudiccas | morsing; is this >>> jeg er ti år og liker hester og spiser maten min <<< danish? if not, do you know what language it is? |
19:38.50 | morsing | boudiccas: It's swedish |
19:39.15 | morsing | boudiccas: I don't know where you're getting that from. I'm running irssi on Debian |
19:39.27 | boudiccas | morsing; can you translate it please? thats what zoodax wants to know |
19:39.41 | Erwin | Is this from a girl who z00dax has the hots for? Lol. |
19:39.47 | morsing | I am ten years old, like horses and eat my food |
19:39.58 | boudiccas | ??!! |
19:40.10 | morsing | boudiccas: Is this z00dax new girlfriend?! |
19:40.22 | boudiccas | i have no idea! :o) |
19:40.49 | morsing | z00dax: BE careful. Ten year old girls can be dangerous :-D |
19:41.26 | boudiccas | back soon |
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19:42.35 | morsing | boudicca! |
19:42.59 | boudicca | check it! |
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19:44.40 | z00dax | morsing, sorry was on the phone |
19:44.45 | z00dax | morsing, what does this mean : jeg er ti år og liker hester og spiser maten min.. |
19:45.06 | boudiccas | its swedish |
19:45.21 | z00dax | is it ? |
19:45.28 | z00dax | morsing, so how is your swedish ? |
19:45.31 | boudiccas | so morsing says |
19:45.46 | Erwin | As he said, "I'm 10 years old, like horses and eat my food" |
19:46.05 | z00dax | ah |
19:46.07 | z00dax | humm |
19:50.24 | morsing | z00dax: Not quite as good |
19:51.26 | morsing | Okay, I have to go now... |
19:51.33 | morsing | Draw break! |
19:58.12 | Cope | aha |
19:58.13 | Cope | hello |
19:59.19 | angelchild | hi :) |
19:59.23 | Cope | woo |
19:59.28 | Cope | or as angelchild would say |
19:59.33 | Cope | \O/ |
19:59.34 | angelchild | this CD is quite possibly the most relaxing I've ever listened to |
19:59.36 | angelchild | \o/ |
19:59.40 | angelchild | <o/ \o> \\o o// |
19:59.41 | angelchild | 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* |
19:59.45 | angelchild | etc |
20:00.36 | angelchild | :( |
20:01.35 | Cope | oooh! |
20:01.38 | Cope | more arguing! |
20:01.39 | Cope | :( |
20:02.02 | angelchild | :< |
20:02.04 | angelchild | what about? |
20:02.46 | Cope | unsure |
20:02.50 | Cope | mummy and sister :( |
20:02.53 | angelchild | oh :o |
20:03.12 | angelchild | play some relaxing music, they do that outside the Co-ops here to "calm the chavs down" |
20:04.55 | Cope | shouting over |
20:04.56 | Erwin | Classical musical has been sucessfully used in such a case to make young kids stop lingering in front of the supermarkets. |
20:12.00 | Erwin | Begging for mercy? |
20:13.41 | Cope | lol |
20:14.46 | Cope | sups |
20:14.47 | Cope | brb |
22:07.13 | Erwin | Looks like someone did get that jackpot. Why is the Camelot site so slow? :-) |
22:13.26 | murb | was it me? |
22:14.39 | Erwin | I was wrong, the next week's is 125 mil |
22:15.41 | murb | how much does a ticket cost? |
22:16.03 | murb | and how many tickets do i need to buy to win? |
22:19.38 | Erwin | I think there are 5 1-50 numbers and 2 1-10 numbers, so that's 31 billion tickets |
22:21.01 | Cope | Erwin: what do you recommend for getting python to talk to oracle? |
22:21.08 | Cope | Erwin: I've read about cx_Oracle |
22:21.27 | Cope | Erwin: but I'd rather not have to get '3rd party' stuff |
22:21.33 | murb | Erwin: oh that is silly numbers. |
22:21.42 | murb | i'm not buying a ticket with those odds. |
22:21.45 | Cope | lol |
22:23.28 | Erwin | Cope: There are no built-in SQL DB modules -- I only use PG |
22:23.51 | Cope | Erwin: what's PG? |
22:23.57 | Cope | oh |
22:23.58 | Cope | sorry |
22:24.00 | Erwin | Postgresql :) |
22:24.00 | Cope | sure |
22:24.05 | Cope | yeah - was being slow |
22:24.26 | Cope | Erwin: what do you use to talk sqlish to you db? |
22:25.03 | Erwin | There also seems to be a DCOracle2. I don't know the difference between them -- there's a more or less standard API DB modules have to follow, so you have the same concept of connecting, getting a cursor, doing a query and fetching the results |
22:25.08 | Erwin | For Postgresql, I use psycopg 1.x |
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22:55.59 | Cope | nn chums |
22:56.24 | George | sausages!!! |
23:37.30 | George | hrmm |
23:37.31 | George | anyway |