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| 05:34.48 | Leeds | a line which I doubt has ever been in a major motion picture before: "We're not heroes" "We're from Finchley!" |
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| 07:51.52 | morsing_ | Leeds! |
| 09:16.18 | morsing_ | Hello? |
| 09:17.37 | murb | no. |
| 09:19.20 | Leeds | morsing_: |
| 09:25.18 | Leeds | how is everybody's Monday? |
| 09:25.30 | morsing | Crap. Have a cold |
| 09:29.28 | Leeds | I'd send you some lovely warm sunny weather if I could |
| 09:33.01 | morsing | FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE (BSD-231103) #0: Tue Nov 25 21:17:31 GMT 2003 |
| 09:38.54 | Leeds | I notice I missed evangineer this morning... |
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| 09:42.21 | Leeds | kbsingh: hello! |
| 09:42.39 | morsing | kbsingh! |
| 09:43.01 | kbsingh | Leeds, morsing, ! |
| 09:43.08 | kbsingh | Leeds, take pictures |
| 09:43.49 | kbsingh | welcome to a new work week |
| 09:49.17 | morsing | Leeds: Happy new year |
| 10:01.56 | wethrin | morning |
| 10:02.28 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 10:03.41 | wethrin | morsing! |
| 10:04.12 | wethrin | Gah. Damn Belgians. |
| 10:04.21 | wethrin | I have to prod the youth hostel again |
| 10:07.10 | kbsingh | wethrin, morning |
| 10:07.26 | wethrin | hi kb |
| 10:19.07 | morsing | Check it! |
| 10:20.43 | kbsingh | checked |
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| 10:37.22 | Cope | morning |
| 10:37.29 | kbsingh | hey Cope |
| 10:37.38 | Cope | hello kbsingh |
| 10:43.27 | morsing | mikejw, Cope! |
| 10:45.44 | kbsingh | does the next meeting(s): sections at http://gllug.org.uk/ need updating perhaps ? |
| 10:46.28 | kbsingh | also, is the next meeting the 2nd Feb or 15th Feb ? |
| 10:55.10 | morsing | Check it! |
| 11:02.11 | kbsingh | mini-morsing ? |
| 11:09.58 | morsing | bzip2 -9 kbsingh |
| 11:23.18 | wethrin | hello |
| 11:25.21 | kbsingh | hi wethrin |
| 11:25.52 | wethrin | hi |
| 11:26.59 | wethrin | Cope: Don't suppose your watch arrived today? |
| 12:16.58 | wethrin | Hmmm. So I'm booking the hostel for 8 people |
| 12:17.10 | wethrin | Do I want to split that into rooms, or just get one large dorm? |
| 12:17.20 | wethrin | I'd have to split it into a 5 and a 4 bed room |
| 12:56.04 | morsing | Derek just said "You're a truly wonderful person!" to me |
| 12:56.15 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 13:01.25 | morsing | ping wethrin |
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| 13:15.52 | morsing | http://www.whitchurchbridge.com/index.html |
| 13:25.15 | wethrin | hello |
| 13:35.25 | George | Cambridge have finally updated UCAS |
| 14:25.50 | Cope | wethrin: you were duly hugged on saturday |
| 14:26.06 | morsing | How do I get outlook to show an attached picture in the email rather than attaching it? |
| 14:36.48 | Erwin | Make sure your Content-Disposition heder has "inline" rather tahn "attachment"? :-) |
| 14:40.53 | morsing | :-) |
| 14:56.34 | morsing | Last login: Mon Jan 30 13:11:26 2006 from 195.190.132.207 |
| 15:02.03 | wethrin | Cope: Hurrah |
| 15:03.17 | morsing | Cope: Why are you upset? |
| 15:27.17 | Cope | morsing: i'm not |
| 15:32.48 | morsing | Good :-) |
| 15:32.54 | morsing | Cope: How are you? |
| 15:45.49 | morsing | Cope? |
| 16:30.42 | Cope | mozrat: oh ok |
| 16:30.49 | Cope | hrm |
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| 18:22.45 | mikejw | hey guys |
| 18:22.58 | mikejw | has anybody seen jason from ukfsn recently? |
| 18:43.20 | wethrin | Not recently, no |
| 18:59.38 | mikejw | ok |
| 19:37.45 | Cope | no |
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| 19:46.25 | Cope | woo rhowe |
| 19:47.08 | Cope | ah |
| 19:47.09 | Cope | sinner |
| 19:47.13 | rhowe | evenin' |
| 19:47.16 | Cope | s/si/di/ |
| 19:47.22 | rhowe | Loose cable |
| 19:47.26 | Cope | aha |
| 19:54.34 | wethrin | heh. oops. |
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| 20:20.07 | stephanb | hello everybody |
| 20:20.46 | stephanb | i have been trying Ubuntu 5.10 to compare it with Fedora Core which I am used to |
| 20:21.21 | stephanb | apart from fitting on a single CD, what is the advantadge of Ubuntu ? |
| 20:26.44 | murb | it isn't fedora. |
| 20:26.50 | murb | it has support. |
| 20:28.20 | stephanb | meaning for s.o. like me who doesn't "buy" support, the wiki is pretty good ? |
| 20:28.27 | stephanb | or at least that's my impression |
| 20:28.58 | stephanb | murb: can u elaborate on "it isnt fedora" ? |
| 20:29.37 | Cope | stephanb: it's like saying "I've bought a ford; what's teh advantage over a vauxhall?" |
| 20:29.47 | Cope | they're just different |
| 20:29.57 | Cope | if you like redhat-style stuff, use fedora |
| 20:30.13 | Cope | if you like debian-style stuff, use debian (or ubuntu if you want to be trendy) |
| 20:30.45 | stephanb | i don't "like" it, i'm used to it, it works, and i know where to find 99% of what i need pre-packaged |
| 20:30.58 | Cope | then you have no need to do anything differently. |
| 20:31.37 | Cope | it really is akin to saying: "well, ford put the indicator stick on the right of the steering column; vauxhall on the left" |
| 20:32.22 | stephanb | oh that i can overcome pretty much. |
| 20:32.38 | Cope | both have excellent package management tools; both are easy to install; both have a fast product development cycle; both have a big community following |
| 20:32.49 | stephanb | what i'm not sure is whether i want to compile a bunch of stuff that i caould find on "freshrpms" |
| 20:33.02 | Cope | stephanb: why would you want to compile anything? |
| 20:33.27 | Cope | stephanb: you have access to 1000s of binary packages |
| 20:33.40 | Cope | stephanb: as root: apt-cache search <my package> |
| 20:34.28 | stephanb | well i researched the repositories, configured synaptic etc. |
| 20:34.52 | stephanb | but i believe i am not supposed to use debian binaries, am i ? |
| 20:43.25 | Cope | stephanb: probably not; I'd be surprised if you could name many packages for which ubuntu binaries don't exist. |
| 20:43.38 | Cope | what specifically are you thinking of? |
| 20:44.03 | stephanb | Cope: ivtv drivers for pvr250 |
| 20:44.44 | stephanb | Cope: drivers for an alaog tv card |
| 20:44.51 | Cope | righto |
| 20:45.05 | stephanb | Cope: when i switch to DVB-T, the drivers will b included in the kernel :-) |
| 20:45.13 | Cope | stephanb: :) |
| 20:45.17 | stephanb | Cope: i will compile them |
| 20:45.57 | Cope | well, I'm not an ubuntu user, but I get the impression the community are supportive - and would quickly be able to point you in the right direction |
| 20:46.04 | stephanb | Cope: do you for what reason there is no root account and they want u to sudo everything? security trick ? |
| 20:46.13 | Cope | stephanb: that sounds like an faq |
| 20:46.41 | stephanb | Cope: oh yes, the wiki seems excellent, and i have seen a very lively irc chan :-) |
| 20:48.20 | Cope | stephanb: I installed ubuntu 5.10 on a machine for my mum - she seems very happy with it |
| 20:49.17 | Cope | I am pretty simple and predictable - debian or centos on pretty much anything |
| 20:49.50 | Cope | I use rhel at work, so centos is home from home |
| 20:50.41 | Cope | and debian 'just works' - exceptionally reliable, great documentation, excellent userbase, runs on lots of architectures. 10,000+ packages, easy to administer |
| 20:50.56 | Cope | between the two, I find no need for anything else |
| 20:51.52 | stephanb | Cope: well yeah, i have no doubt Ubuntu is XLNT as a "standard desktop" (read web+office) |
| 20:52.40 | stephanb | Cope: but as I am using my machine as a video-recorder, i got used to get packages for fedora |
| 20:53.19 | stephanb | however i still need to evaluate the other side of things, print server, nfs, etc, and compare with fedora |
| 20:53.30 | Cope | stephanb: *shrug* - I have no axe to grin - DTSTTCPW |
| 20:53.38 | Cope | s/in/ind/ |
| 20:54.51 | stephanb | Cope: i'll have learnt something today : "DTSTTCPW" :-) |
| 20:55.46 | Cope | ibot DTSTTCPW |
| 20:55.47 | ibot | from memory, dtsttcpw is Do the simplest thing that could possibly work! |
| 20:56.50 | stephanb | Cope: i found this on Google, with a reference to Occam's Razor |
| 20:57.42 | Cope | :) |
| 20:57.50 | Cope | stephanb: see also "do simple things" |
| 20:58.18 | Cope | stephanb: and relatedly, yagni |
| 20:58.21 | Cope | ibot yagni |
| 20:58.23 | ibot | well, yagni is You ain't gonna need it! |
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| 20:58.53 | Cope | ibot mutilate George |
| 20:58.55 | ibot | ACTION pulls out a carving knife and turns George into confetti |
| 21:00.35 | George | Cope: hideous man |
| 21:10.41 | rhowe | Cope: Did I mention that it looks like me and Jia are moving in together? |
| 21:10.53 | rhowe | Cope: We're just seeking a place to live at the moment |
| 21:13.24 | stephanb | bye everybody, thanks for the chat ! |
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| 22:21.27 | rhowe | If I reduce my overdraft, like I did earlier this month, it should affect my equity, no? |
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| 23:22.16 | Cope | rhowe: you did |
| 23:22.31 | rhowe | Cope: Ah, ok |
| 23:22.38 | Cope | rhowe: and I imagine I muttered something about being there to pick up the pieces |
| 23:22.55 | Cope | rhowe: but then I'm a cynical, bitter old man :) |
| 23:22.57 | rhowe | Cope: heh |
| 23:23.38 | Cope | well, friends last longer than girlfriends |
| 23:23.43 | Cope | and even wives, in my experience. |
| 23:23.45 | rhowe | She certainly lives up to the reputation of Chongqing girls as being 'spicy' |
| 23:31.22 | wethrin | hello |
| 23:34.41 | George | wethrin: I've been laughing at people at school who will have to wear sub fusc |
| 23:35.11 | wethrin | Maybe, but at least they're going to a good university |
| 23:35.56 | George | hah! you didn't say it was the best! |
| 23:37.12 | wethrin | okay. I should have said better |
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| 23:59.10 | George | wethrin: :) |