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00:11.09*** join/#gllug angelchild (n=Catalyst@allegro/user/angelchild)
00:12.21GeorgeDIE HORRID VILE WOMAN
00:30.56Georgehehe
00:31.07GeorgeI'm incapacitated for the next few nights
00:35.15LeedshomeI have something I want to do, but haven't booked for, and something I was persuaded to organise
00:35.28Leedshomeanyway, I'm going now...
00:37.50Georgecya
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02:27.17Leedsmmm... shortbread
04:18.18Leedshmm... Chinese wedding invitation...
08:48.28Leedsibot wake up everybody
08:48.30ibotup everybody: GOOD MORNING!!!
08:49.41rhowemornin' Leeds
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08:55.29morsing_'morning
09:02.32Leedshi
09:09.30morsing_Leeds!
09:09.51morsing_What did you have for breakfast?
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09:18.15morsingCheck it
09:18.38Leedsweetabix and toast - the regular
09:24.54morsingNice
09:25.12Leedsjust one?
09:25.19morsingYes
09:25.25morsingWhy?
09:25.35Leedsah, you mean a fry-up rather than a french fry
09:25.44morsingTHANK-YOU!!!
09:26.47Leedsit's possible that they're called "a fry" rather than "a fry-up" in .ie - it is a foreign country after all
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10:11.37morsingkbsingh!
10:16.50kbsinghmorsing!
10:19.52wethrinmorning
10:21.59kbsinghwethrin!
10:22.09wethrinkb!
10:25.56Georgebleh
10:27.40wethrindruggie
10:27.51Georgewethrin: I'm bloody ill
10:27.53Georgeso hush
10:28.09wethrinwell, maybe if you didn't take so much paracetamol... ;-)
10:28.16Georgeblah
10:28.22GeorgeI'm taking 2 tablets every 4 hours
10:28.37wethrinYeah, but also no more than 3 or 4 sets a day
10:28.37GeorgeI last had some at 6:45
10:29.38Georgehrmmph
10:30.06Leedsokay, now I'm pissed off
10:30.18GeorgeLeeds: why?
10:30.32Leedsmy vm @ bytemark is completely screwed - it forgets how to start a shell after a few hours of running
10:31.01Leedsapache is still fine, bind is still fine, it responds on the console, I can authenticate over ssh - but it can't actually start a shell
10:37.31Leedsbah, I'm going home
10:48.36Georgesoluble paracetamol tastes yucky!
10:51.27morsingwethrin!
10:51.50morsingGeorge: Beer helps
10:51.51Georgeand I now have a bloody headache
10:51.52Georgearrrgghhh
10:53.12wethrinhello
10:53.31GeorgeUNFAIR
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11:01.48wethrinurghl
11:10.01Leedshomeapparently today is a good day to pull a sickie
11:10.23wethrinindeed
11:10.31wethrinIs that why you're at home? :-)
11:11.22Leedshomeno, because it's 7:10pm here...
11:11.22GeorgeLeedshome: why?
11:12.31LeedshomeGeorge: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/06/national_sickie_day/
11:13.10GeorgeHarrow's been hit by a bug like a tonne of bricks
11:14.15Leedshomestd?
11:14.20Georgeno
11:14.24Georgeflu-type thing
11:18.10Leedshomeavian?
11:18.34kbsinghits all those doggy sausages
11:18.46wethrinavian sausages?
11:20.23Leedshomelow-flying ones, presumably
11:21.38wethrinBeware of low-flying butterflies
11:23.00Leedshomewhy?
11:23.09wethrinWhy not?
11:23.22wethrinIf you can't beware of them, what /can/ you beware of?
11:23.54Leedshometriads
11:24.21wethrinLow-flying ones? :)
11:25.01Leedshomeright
11:27.01*** join/#gllug Erwin (n=erwin@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Erwin)
11:27.12morsingErwin!
11:30.17kbsinghdoing a random bluetooth scan turns up 8 devices in the area
12:01.11wethrinmorsing: You can't do that! I have the key!
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12:09.03stephanb2hello everybody
12:14.08stephanb2does anybody know about the meeting on wednesday 15th ?
12:14.40kbsinghnot me
12:18.31stephanb2has any had problems with the fc4 kernel. i get a few "oops" on a PIII machine
12:19.52kbsinghnothing that I know about
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12:33.07stephanb2hmm
12:33.35stephanb2i must pop out for lunch. cu l8r
12:41.25Georgewoo
12:41.30Georgeruth in spooks went to corpus christi
12:41.43Georgeexcept I think it's the one in the other place
12:45.47morsingeye69!
12:45.51eye69Hey morsing.
12:45.58ErwinI just finished Season 3 of Spooks on DVD yesterday.
12:46.12ErwinDid you know that Tessa was the girl in Logan's Run like 30 years ago?
12:47.30morsinghttp://www.crushcalculator.com/content/love/938642753
12:55.29morsingeye69: How's life?
12:55.39eye69Alright.
13:05.41morsingHi all. About that link I just pasted in...
13:06.07GeorgeErwin: yes
13:06.20morsingSome girl upstairs tried to fool me into types names in
13:06.40morsingIt will email her with the names you type in (which I had already guessed)
13:06.57morsingSO could you all just spam her with random names please :-)
13:07.08morsingThanks a lot!
13:07.34GeorgeErwin: I miss tom quinn
13:07.40GeorgeErwin: he's much better than this adam carter fool
13:07.43morsingGeorge: Good type that in then!
13:08.32ErwinGeorge: The actor who plays Tom Quinn married the actress who played Zoe
13:08.37GeorgeI know that too
13:08.37morsingHas anyone done it yet?
13:10.51Leedshomemorsing: random names from you?
13:12.19Erwinmorsing: What's the girl's name?
13:12.53Leedshomethere, three random exotic-sounding real names
13:13.01GeorgeI bet her name is sausage
13:13.02morsingLeedshome, Erwin What do you mean from me? No - Like George Bush and Marilyn Manson
13:13.14morsingJust type in something stupid!
13:13.18Leedshomemorsing: so, you got the hots for Ursula then?
13:13.25morsingLeedshome: No!
13:14.05Leedshomethe website seemed to think you were the one for her
13:14.06morsingLeedshome: Were they Chinese names?
13:14.14morsingLeedshome: Did it?
13:14.25Leedshomenope - one Spanish, one Israeli, one American/Jewish
13:14.38morsingLeedshome: Great :-D
13:14.41Leedshomewell, Spanish/American
13:15.11stephanb2esmeralda laila steinberg
13:15.14Leedshomebut I did put your name on it :-)
13:15.22morsingAaarrgghhh....! Thanks
13:15.30Leedshomeactually, Gricelda Ibarra - which really is her name
13:16.20stephanb2rafaela rachel cohen
13:17.09Leedshomenope, she's called Rachel Toyen
13:17.50Leedshomehttp://www.wanderingjew.co.uk/newphotos/sorted/HK/picture49.html is Gricelda and http://www.wanderingjew.co.uk/newphotos/sorted/HK/picture37.html (in the middle) is Rachel
13:19.21stephanb2Leedshome: are u hesitating which one to marry ?
13:19.55Leedshomenot exactly, no
13:21.19Leedshomethe opportunity hasn't particularly come up... yet...
13:21.38stephanb2can anybody tell me what i am supposed to do when i get "oops" messages at bootup?
13:22.07stephanb2how can I know which module is causing them. am i supposed to use a different kernel version?
13:22.25Leedshomethe oops will have information telling you what has happened
13:22.39*** join/#gllug Erwin (n=erwin@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Erwin)
13:22.45Leedshomebut if you're getting an opps reliably at boot time, something is rather wrong with your system
13:23.44stephanb2what if am having no oops with fc3, one with fc4 with the original kernel, 3 if i upgrade the kernel ?
13:24.11Leedshomethen I'd blame nasrat... what is it oopsing on?
13:24.57stephanb2i don't know which line to look at to find what is causing the oops
13:26.09LeedshomeI haven't seen an oops for a while... your logs should have the interesting stuff - paste them somewhere - not here!
13:26.37Leedshomehttp://deadbeefbabe.org/paste for example
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13:26.53stephanb2ill do this when im at home :-)
13:27.35Leedshomemorsing: so, what did she think of your choices?
13:28.41stephanb2Leedshome: cool website. very handy
13:28.49Leedshomeindeed it is :-)
13:29.41morsingLeedshome: She was impressed :-D
13:29.56morsingThanks for putting in my name though
13:29.57Leedshomethere are a bunch of other pastebins out there, with support for various types of syntax highlighting, versioning, etc.
13:30.11Leedshomemorsing: did you at least look at the photos of the girls? :-)
13:30.59Leedshomealthough I did get Michal's surname wrong
13:31.55morsingLeedshome: I don't think she noticed
13:32.10JAVgood afternoon
13:32.13morsingJAV!
13:33.18Leedshomewell, I'm assuming she's never met or heard of Michal before, so it wouldn't really bother her
13:33.20Leedshomeevening JAV
13:35.39morsingLeedshome: Nice photos
13:36.58LeedshomeI've got a load more to upload - got to do some more work on my software first... like, now
13:37.33morsingMmm... php
13:47.12Leedshomeexcuse me... python
13:48.50morsingIs that more fun
13:48.52morsing?
13:56.36Leedshomeyes
13:58.00morsingHow so?#
13:58.46Leedshomewell, the BDFL is Dutch, it's named after Monty Python, and it has significant whitespace
14:01.29morsingEh?
14:01.30ErwinPerfect for someone working at Camelot.
14:01.33Leedshomeplus, list comprehensions and generator expressions are just cool
14:02.43LeedshomeI am starting to think that php is better than perl though...
14:03.06Leedshomenot as a language, of course - perl may be a mess, but at least it's a proper language - but as a community
14:03.31Leedshomeand naturally, in 5 years we'll all be doing RoR anyway
14:03.37morsingRoR?
14:04.06Leedshomeyes
14:04.23LeedshomeRuby on Rails
14:05.25morsingAhh...
14:05.42LeedshomeI'm sure Erwin will back me on this
14:07.20ErwinRoR has gained lots of popularity, but there are similar frameworks in Python.
14:07.53ErwinIf you knew neither Python or Ruby today though and wanted to get something done within a month, I'd recommend RoR.
14:08.07ErwinInterestingly the RoR channel is bigger than anything on this network. Bigger than #C, #python and #perl
14:08.20morsingErwin: It's not easy to install on Debian though
14:08.39Erwinisn't it? apt-get install rails?
14:08.53ErwinIf you don't have a rails package, it looks like you can use Ruby's own packaging system, "gems" or such.
14:08.54LeedshomeErwin: so which is the framework to use in Python?  There is one with all the effort behind it, like Rails, right? :-)
14:09.52Leedshometo be honest, I'm still just writing cgi scripts... starting to use mochikit and like the look of kid though, so I suppose I'm slowly moving into turbogears
14:10.45ErwinLeedshome: There's loads of them. Turbogears is one, Django is another. This is a good thread to read: http://www.artima.com/forums/threaded.jsp?forum=106&thread=146149
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14:11.08ErwinAnd follow-up http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=146503 -- this is about Guido (now at Google) looking for a framework HE likes
14:11.13morsingeye69!
14:12.57LeedshomeErwin: I'm stirring... I know of those posts/threads, I've been reading them... I may not be a python master, but I've been using it for about 6 years now...
14:13.43ErwinWell, I'm stuck with something mostly home-made; it'd be nice to move to something more standardized but there's no point in rewriting this 20kloc app just for that
14:14.08ErwinBut if things were more modular, and my app moved to a WSGI interface I could use some of those WSGI middleware apps, like the paste exception
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14:16.49morsingeye69!
14:19.42rhoweGeorge: See you next week
14:21.13morsingJust got this email from Cheryl:
14:21.15morsingThanks Henrik, sometimes I wonder what I would achieve without all your help & support
14:21.17morsing:-D
14:21.57Erwinhttp://www.laddertheory.com/
14:24.27Leedshomemorsing: you're in there
14:24.40morsingLeedshome: Eh? What?!
14:24.45morsingIn where?
14:25.10morsingLeedshome: I believe she is being extremely sarchastic!
14:25.19Georgerhowe: I have fast computers.
14:25.32LeedshomeGeorge: seeya on Friday then
14:25.48rhowemorsing: Did she carry on talking to you /after/ you fixed her computer? </itcrowd>
14:25.59morsingrhowe: Ha ha
14:26.00Leedshomemorsing: are you saying that you don't provide her with essential help & support?
14:26.30morsingLeedshome: Well, the email conversation went something like:
14:27.02morsingCheryl to 'IT systems': Does anyone live near Beckenhem, Kent
14:27.08eye69wii eye69
14:27.11morsingMe to Cheryl: Where is that?
14:27.22morsingCheryl: Link to Multimap
14:27.31morsingME: No I don't live near there
14:27.54Leedshomeeye69: you're alive!
14:28.04eye69I am
14:28.10morsingrhowe: So what did you think of the it crowd?
14:28.33Leedshomemorsing: that was it?
14:29.08morsingLeedshome: Yes - so not really helpful
14:29.25Leedshomemorsing: you're well in there...
14:29.34morsingAm I?
14:30.28rhowemorsing: Only saw the 1st episode. Laughed at a few things, but there wasn't much original there. It seems heavily based on BOFH, I wouldn't be suprised if the same guy was behind both (Simon whatever his name is, IIRC)
14:31.14Leedshomerhowe: there was a mention that Cory Doctrow had provided some input, as well as the EFF stickers
14:31.35ErwinThe director is the guy behind Father Ted. Unfortunately his humour must have died together with Dermot Morgan
14:32.03Leedshomeindeed
14:32.06ErwinThen again, I've only seen the first episode, is the 2nd one online now?
14:32.08rhoweSome of it did remind me of Father Ted, but it wasn't in the same vein
14:32.29rhowe2nd one was on after the 1st when they did the repeat on Sunday night, but I got taken to bed before it started
14:32.31stephanb2hmm shame, not Apple "Evangelists" in the show then ;-) ?
14:32.41stephanb2s/not/no
14:33.07Georgehttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Apple-iPod-Photo-60GB-Digital-Music-MP3-Player-NEW_W0QQitemZ5863694520QQcategoryZ94930QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
14:33.10Georgehahaha
14:33.11Georgelook at this chap's feedback
14:34.54Leedshomeare you suggesting there's something odd about it?
14:34.59Georgeyes :P
14:35.52Leedshomethe item is in Ireland, but the seller is in China?
14:35.57Georgehehe
14:36.39kbsinghhe might use a  fullfilment company
14:36.51Georgekbsingh: look at his feedback ratings!
14:37.02kbsinghlooks like a bunch of crap he bought from the same guy
14:37.11rhoweheh
14:37.34kbsinghand he bought all that crap, within minutes of each other
14:37.35rhoweyep, looks like he's pushed his feedback to 10
14:37.45George:)
14:37.54kbsinghworth reporting to ebay
14:38.19morsingCan I copy a known_hosts file to another system?
14:38.33Georgethink so
14:38.35kbsinghyes, i'd think so
14:40.01Georgekbsingh: how do you report fraudulant activity on ebay?
14:40.11morsingAnd it would work (tricky part of question :-)
14:40.27kbsinghnot sure, never done this sort of a thing before, I am not much of an ebay'er
14:40.35kbsinghmorsing, yes it should
14:41.45kbsinghhttp://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/avoiding_fraud.html
14:41.49kbsinghwould this be of some use ?
14:42.07morsingYes - thank-you
14:45.02Leedshomesee, the main problem with php is that running most off-the-shelf php packages is like putting a big sign on your server saying "all welcome, come in and make yourselves comfortable"
14:46.25Leedshome"certainly, we have available accounts - would sir like root, or will sir settle for www?"
14:47.53rhoweNot especially because of PHP nowadays (although in the past, it was pretty much a gaping hole in and of itself), but because PHP is the language most wannabe-webapp-writers seem to start hacking in
14:48.02rhoweand end up producing code so full of holes, it's not even funny
14:48.16Leedshomeyes, hence my comment
14:48.45rhoweThe language itself isn't especially nice, from what I recall, but it seems most of the code written in PHP is written using a VB mentality
14:48.45LeedshomeI don't think the guys working on php are idiots - I've met a couple of them - but a lot of the people (most?) using it are
14:49.11rhoweWritten by people who just shouldn't be writing public-network-facing applications
14:52.29Leedshomemy request on #python for a decent python-based webmail package didn't get very far, unfortunately
14:53.06kbsinghyahoo runs mostly on mysql+ php
14:53.58rhowekbsingh: Yahoo probably has decent programmers
14:54.24kbsinghrhowe, they have 2 levels of code audit as well before things move from -devel to -testing
14:54.52rhowekbsingh: I should hope so too
14:57.02Leedshomehmm... Canonical are based in the Isle of Man?
14:57.14kbsinghofficially, yes
14:59.03LeedshomeI had assumed they were .za-ian
14:59.56ErwinThe Isle of Man have a very good documentation industry, though...
15:01.19Leedshomereally?
15:02.38ErwinOh yes. Noone's better at documenting UNIX commands than the denizens of the Isle of Man.
15:03.07Leedshomeah... ugh... argh...
15:04.16Leedshomeincidentally, Charlie Stross, award-winning sci-fi author, used to be a doc writer at SCO...
15:04.27Georgeooh stross
15:04.43Georgehis articles inspired me when I was ickle
15:05.10Leedshomeyou were inspired by SCO?
15:06.16Georgeno
15:06.47Leedshomewhy not?
15:07.34GeorgeI never read them
15:12.35Leedshomewhat?
15:12.50Georgethe sco stuff
15:18.25Leedshomehe left before I started...
15:28.34LeedshomeGeorge: don't do that
15:29.25Georgewell
15:29.29GeorgeI'm feeling shockingly bad
15:30.21Leedshomeand the doctor said?
15:30.30GeorgeI was just sent home
15:30.39Georgesaw the nurse at school who put me on soluble paracetamol
15:30.42Georgeand lots of rest
15:30.45Georgeand fluids
15:31.31Leedshomeif you're feeling that bad, see a doc
15:31.44Leedshomedid you have a flu jab?  have you been fucking chickens?
15:32.05Georgeschool's got an epidemic
15:32.11GeorgeI caught the bug floating around school
15:45.41rhoweHardly comprehensive, but it should do for converting my bacula database
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15:46.50Leedshomeangelchild: yes, is there something you want?
15:46.57angelchildhuh?
15:47.35Leedshomewell if you're going to take that sort of attitude...
15:48.02angelchildumm, I don't understand your question, it implies I said something to invite said question...
15:48.23Leedshomebe like that then!
15:49.07angelchildoh... kay...
15:49.10angelchildO_o
15:49.33LeedshomeI'm just messing :-)
15:51.13angelchild:d
15:53.10Leedshomeso you're not drunk tonight then...
15:53.43angelchilderr, no
15:53.47angelchildI've had lectures today :P
15:54.23Leedshomesince when did that stop anyone being drunk?
15:54.30GeorgeI feel much better now
15:54.51LeedshomeGeorge: drugs?
15:54.56Georgeyeah
15:54.59Georgeparacetamol
15:55.13Leedshomeibot George is also on drugs
15:55.14ibotcannot alter locked factoids, Leedshome
15:55.21George:P
15:55.23Leedshomeibot you bastard
15:55.25Georgeibot George
15:55.26iboti guess george is gwright@kde.org and a KDE devel
15:55.51Leedshomeibot just bloody unlock George, will you?
15:57.02Georgeperv
15:57.49Georgegoogle version of ubuntu. hrmm.
15:58.24Leedshomeoptions are: Tempting Wallpaper, Erotic MMS, Sexy Java, Fantasy Chat and XXX Paradise
15:58.24Georgehttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/31/google_goes_desktop_linux/
15:58.28LeedshomeSexy Java???
15:58.39kbsinghDie Java Die
15:58.39GeorgeLeedshome: heh, sounds like something Sun would come up with
15:59.06Leedshomehmm... Erotic Mahjong
15:59.27Georgethere are minors in here
15:59.39Leedshomewhere?
15:59.44Georgeme
16:00.10Leedshomethere's a "Vulgar Vocab" game :-)
16:00.17Georgeeww
16:00.36Leedshomewith beginner and expert versions :-)
16:00.42Georgehrmm
16:00.47wethrinGeorge: If you're a minor, then get out
16:00.53Georgewhy?
16:01.01GeorgeI've been here since I was really ickle!
16:01.03wethrinIf you can't stand some adult language
16:01.03Georgesince I was 14!
16:01.04Georgeor thereabouts
16:01.52GeorgeI think
16:02.51LeedshomeI think this thing is very funny - pity none of the downloads work... I want to see what exper Vulgar Vocab is!
16:02.55wethrinOn IRC, yes. Don't know about the mailing list
16:03.03Georgewethrin: hrmmph
16:03.12LeedshomeGeorge: when's your birthday again?
16:03.41GeorgeLeedshome: march...
16:03.53Leedshomeso you become a major next month?
16:04.02Georgeapparently
16:04.15Georgeand I'm quite happy to use and abuse the "I'm an innocent minor" card until then
16:04.48wethringnergh. He's an entire 7 years younger than me
16:05.14Georgehahahaha
16:05.18Georgeloonatic!
16:05.29angelchild>:)
16:05.31Leedshomebah, half the porn links don'e work and the others are pay-per-view
16:05.33Georgepiss off you horrid vile rancid little girl
16:05.40angelchildglad to be of service :)
16:05.47Georgeangelchild: stupid ridiculous fool
16:05.55LeedshomeI wonder if they work in Chinese... a chance to practice my Chinese reading
16:06.09GeorgeLeedshome: I can read 1, 2 and 3
16:06.11GeorgeI'm immense
16:06.17George- = and three lines
16:06.29Leedshomeuh, yeah - I'm a bit beyond that by now
16:06.50LeedshomeI know 4 and 10 as well :-)
16:06.55Georgeheh
16:07.00George10 is a box right?
16:07.27LeedshomeX
16:07.34Leedshomeor +
16:07.48Leedshomeone or the other :-)
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16:08.55LeedshomeI also know big, medium, small, person, in, out, heart, sun (aka day), moon (aka month) and probably a couple more
16:11.30Leedshomeah well... from Tuesday, I wish you all a good rest-of-Monday, and goodnight
16:11.38angelchildnight :)
16:11.41wethrinnn
16:11.41Georgescrew this
16:11.43GeorgeI'm going to sleep
16:11.50wethrinGood plan
16:11.54Leedshomehear hear
16:12.39morsingCheck it!
16:13.07Leedshomeoh, and I've just met Smeagol, so it's a good time to leave Angband too...
16:22.01pawel:>
16:22.04pawelhi.
16:24.58mikejwhello guys
16:28.54morsing3Hi
16:29.10morsingShould I stay or should I go?
16:30.07wethrinMaybe
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16:44.17morsingGonzo!
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18:43.07pawelfood + coding = fat belly
19:08.08wethrin:)
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20:14.53wethrinWibble
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20:42.47zx80userrhowe TRAITOR!!!
20:45.14wethrinYay FreeBSD! :)
20:47.11zx80userwethrin you do know you shall suffer eternal torment on the end of that little red fella's fork
20:47.32wethrinBetter than being rushed at by an angry penguin :)
20:48.14Georgehave you guys seen cosmopod.net?
20:48.54Georgecooooooool
20:49.01Georgethere's a commercial NX client for the Sharp Zaurus
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