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00:11.54Georgehttp://thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=187483
00:11.59Georgesome people like to hide under rocks
00:18.34wethrintrue
00:18.35wethrinnight
00:18.49Georgelol
00:18.49Georgenight
00:19.27z00daxin soviet russia, the rocks hide behind you
00:21.25Georgehah
00:22.33z00daxspecially if the rock has a spycam inside it
00:23.46Georgesausags
00:24.20Georgez00dax: do you get a lot of spam messages entitled "The Ultimate Online Pharmaceutical"?
00:24.52z00daxcan check
00:25.01GeorgeI seem to be getting 4 or 5 a day
00:25.04Georgestarting to piss me off
00:25.31GeorgeI get about 10 spam messages a day now, I think
00:25.37Georgeno filtering in place
00:27.47z00daxout of 7438 spam in the last 7 days, i have 141 matches for "The Ultimate Online" in subject line
00:28.27z00daxthe all seem to come from "Doctor" ?
00:29.51Georgeyeah
00:30.07z00daxthe url linked from the email is on surbl.org's  lists, so i they get marked as spam - i dont get to see them
00:30.22z00daxs/o i t/o t/
00:32.20Georgez00dax: you get 1000 spam messages a day?
00:32.29z00daxor more
00:33.00George"The lower processor speeds (none intel ones) are because the processors are RISC (Reduced Instruction Set computers) where as normal PC's are CISC (Complex Instruction Set Computers)"
00:33.08Georgecomments like that make me squeal
00:33.10z00daxusually weekends are like 300 - 400
00:33.17z00daxweekdays are 1200 - 1400 usually
00:33.23Georgelol
00:33.27Georgeeven spammers take a break :)
00:33.51z00daxalso i get max spam from 11:00am to 9:30pm
00:34.15z00daxfrom 9:30 pm to about 2:00am it slows down - and from 2:00am to about 5:00am its more or less completely quiet
00:35.21z00daxSpamassassin + urilbl + razor  = about 95% of that stuff never makes it into my inbox
00:35.44z00daxnot using 'self learning' crap like bayes etc  - kind of ensures i get almost zero FP's
00:36.05GeorgeFP?
00:36.10z00daxFalsePositives
00:36.16Georgeah
00:36.29z00daxI'd go mental if I had to trawl through the spam folders looking for potential good emails
00:36.59z00daxi happily accept those 5% in my inbox, in return for not having to look at the other 95%
00:39.19Georgeheh
00:39.19Georgewise
00:45.14Leedshomemorning all
00:51.27Leedshomeand... gone
00:53.18rhoweevenin'
01:17.22z00daxnite
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07:01.59Leedsooh, boss is back
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08:20.04Leedshttp://slashdot.org/~MarkChovain/
08:20.07Leedshello morsing
08:20.14morsingLeeds!
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08:29.43AndrewBlackHi there - does anyone undestand how "/home" works on Solaris.
08:33.30morsingAndrewBlack: Ask the question?
08:34.59AndrewBlackIt seems that automounter does something wierd and wondeful
08:35.15AndrewBlackYou can't create a director /home/andrew
08:38.35morsingAndrewBlack: I know. It's automounted from /home to /exports/home or something isn't it?
08:38.41morsingSo is that a problem?
08:40.12Leeds<PROTECTED>
08:42.05AndrewBlackI don't think that /export/home exists.
08:44.13Leedsthen make it :-)
08:45.06AndrewBlackcorrection - it does
08:45.31AndrewBlackdo I need to add something to /etc/auto_home to get it to mount the directory?
08:45.35Leedsthen don't make it...
08:45.53Leedsare you planning to remotely mount home directories using nis and/or nfs?
08:46.21AndrewBlackprob not at this stage. but maybe later
08:46.44Leedsthen I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage...
08:47.01AndrewBlackdo I need to switch off automounter
08:52.19Leedsdon't particularly see why
09:01.57morsingCheck it!
09:02.08morsingAndrewBlack: Are you coming to the pub meet on Friday?
09:02.44Kittydoes anyone know if there is an easy way to migrate a 32bit debian userland to 64bit?
09:04.21AndrewBlackmorsing - quite poss.  Remind me where it is
09:24.40wethrinAndrewBlack: Read your email when it's sent out :)
09:24.46wethrinWindmill, anyway
09:25.33AndrewBlackOK - hope to see you there.
09:25.45wethrinWe'll probably move off for food around 8ish, as usual
09:37.44wethrinA Day at the Races, and a Night at the Opera?
09:40.09Leedsa day at work, and a night at the races
09:40.57Leedsamongst the late answers I got to the pub quiz last night were I Want To Break Free (which video had Freddie in a leather mini-skirt?) and Duncan Goodhue (picture round)
09:42.03LeedsGoodhew, that is, apparently
09:42.47LeedsI assume we still got the point after I spelled his name wrong...
09:44.46Leedshmm... duncangoodhew.com expired a couple of days ago...
09:52.58morsingLeeds: Was he offended?
09:54.09Leedsat his domain expiring?
09:54.19morsing09:42 < Leeds> I assume we still got the point after I spelled his name wrong...
09:55.20Leedswell, he wasn't there, and I assume no-one has told him
09:55.26morsingAhh...
10:03.03Leedsmozrat: oy, sort your blog out!
10:09.27Leeds"(2**1024+1)**(2**1024+1) % 2**1024" takes a while to run
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10:35.45gregjwethrin: how much wood would woodchuck chuck, if woodchuck could chuck wood ?
10:35.46gregj:]
10:52.32Georgeblehblehbleh
10:53.43kbsinghgregj, lots
10:54.13gregj;]
10:56.15gregjGeorge: now in cantonise please
10:57.08morsingkbsingh!
10:57.10Georgegregj: bluhbluhbluh
10:57.23morsingkdhsjr sldjkghsdkfh jhkj vhfds hv jdfk k kjgftrlkgbn
10:57.32gregjGeorge: and now in Polish
10:57.39kbsinghlol
10:57.40gregjblablablblablabla
10:57.46Georgegregj: blzyzyzyzyzyhblzyzyzyzyzyhblzyzyzyzyzyh
10:57.48kbsinghhi morsing, howse Wednesday treating you ?
10:58.04kbsinghGeorge, that sounds more hungarian to me
10:58.18kbsinghhungarian with a spanish accent
10:59.04rhoweGeorge: You missed out the ł :)
10:59.48Georgehah
11:04.16morsingkbsingh: Crap
11:04.31Leedshomeit's good to see the NHS is still going strong
11:05.04morsingLeedshome: Because of Evil Dave?
11:05.39Leedshomeyou may remember I paid a little visit to hospital a while back...
11:06.12LeedshomeI was booked in for a check-up 6 months later...
11:06.35Leedshomeit's been postponed and postponed ad nauseum - and I got a letter today postponing it again, from next week to the end of this month
11:07.17GeorgeZLOTY
11:07.36LeedshomeGeorge: Euro!
11:09.46rhoweGeorge: ZŁOTY!
11:10.58morsingLeedshome: Yes?
11:11.17morsingLeedshome: So you're coming back for this check-up?
11:15.02Leedshomeno
11:15.54LeedshomeI'm just amazed that they've managed to postpone a 6-month check-up for about 10 months
11:25.54morsinghttp://www.fitlinxx.com/ProgressReport/ProgressReport.asp?link=73624C94-17B5-45F4-ABD8-4170718A314E
11:31.05gregjibot convert 1 EUR to PLN
11:32.44morsingibot convert 1 Leedshome to 1 gregj
11:33.24gregjit's change not convert :)
11:33.27Erwinibot convert to Islam
11:33.32gregj:D
11:33.41morsingibot change 1 Leedshome to 1 gregj
11:33.56gregjmorsing: they should also note your weight and plot nice graph
11:38.58GeorgeI'm getting a lot of blog spam these days
11:39.11Georgeserendipity is very good at sifting it out though ;)
11:45.44Leedshomeall: whois.net isn't working for me... can anyone suggest a similar, simple site I can cite in some research?
11:57.12wethrinhello
12:07.26LeedshomeI'll consider that a no, no-one knows of an alternative site
12:07.43wethrinDoes whois.net just check whois records?
12:07.52Leedshomeyes
12:08.01wethrinWhy not just run 'whois' from the command line?
12:08.14gregjanyone knows how can I force bind to never send out NXDOMAIN, but instead some fixed IP if addr was not found anywhere else ?
12:08.22Leedshomebecause telling my dad to run whois isn't going to be particularly useful
12:08.32wethringregj: A catch-all record?
12:08.38gregjhow can I do it ?
12:08.43wethrinLeedshome: Ahh. samspade.com? samspade.org? One of them
12:08.54Leedshomeisn't that what verisign got slapped down over?
12:08.57wethringregj: Not sure. Maybe a * in the zone file?
12:09.00wethrinLeedshome: Not sure
12:09.13gregjwethrin: but I want to do it for all zones, everything bind returns
12:09.28wethrinAhh.....
12:09.34wethrinNot sure if you can
12:10.05Leedshomewethrin: yes, looks like samspade would have worked - if I hadn't already replied to his question
12:10.59wethrinahh
12:11.00wethrinright
12:11.09Leedshomehis question being a client of his wanting to register a domain name which I described as being rather like painting a bright orange target on your backside and sticking a sign above it saying "Mr. Stelios, please kick me here"
12:11.41wethrinumm
12:11.55Leedshomeeasygroup aren't known for being kind and gentle when it comes to people trading as easyFOO
12:12.20wethrinAhhhh. A specific domain, then. Not general domain registrations
12:12.22Erwineasylawsuit.com!
12:13.38Leedshomeright, a specific domain which I shall not specify because, well, he was asking for advice on a legal question
12:14.09LeedshomeErwin: that was registered a couple of years ago
12:22.04rhoweLeedshome: demon have a tools page
12:22.20rhowehttp://www.demon.net/toolkit/internettools/
12:28.59Georgeor civ
12:29.00Georgehrmmmmm
12:29.02Georgeciv would be good
12:29.18Leedshomesmac
12:29.23GeorgeLeedshome: got that too
12:29.27Georgenever played it though
12:29.57Leedshomereally?
12:30.00Georgeyeah
12:30.02Georgeis smac good?
12:31.04Leedshomevery
12:31.12LeedshomeI have lost many a night to it
12:31.24Georgeheh
12:31.33Georgeit wants to run in 640x480 on Linux
12:31.36Georgeyou can't seem to change the res
12:32.06Leedshomeit is a few years old... I did think there was a way to change it, but I could be wrong
12:32.43Georgehrmm
12:34.03Leedshomeanyway, time to go to the races
12:53.42GeorgeI prefer civ
12:56.08Georgewow, some chap at school just called me a 'd0rk'
12:56.12GeorgeI feel so offended
12:57.26wethrinhow did he pronounce the 0?
12:57.48GeorgeI have no idea
12:57.58wethrinah
13:29.55morsingwethrin: What's the name of the southbank pub? Something arms?
13:30.55morsingping wethrin
13:31.55kbsinghmorsing, the one next to the Tate modern ?
13:31.59morsingYes
13:32.05kbsinghyeah, its something arms
13:32.21morsingkbsingh: tHANKS :-p
13:32.25kbsingh:)
13:32.40morsingStarts with p?
13:32.46morsingpoultry arms?
13:33.12kbsinghgimme a sec, i'll confirm
13:35.08ErwinFounder's Arms
13:36.01morsingYup, you're right. Thanks
13:36.05kbsinghyup, thats it
13:36.35morsingpoultry arms did sound a bit silly
13:36.42kbsinghdont think i'd want a drink at some place called the Poulty Arms
13:37.28morsing:-)
13:50.54mozrathey guys
13:54.02morsingmozrat!
13:54.16mozrathihi
13:54.45mozratI like this laptop >> http://www.emperorlinux.com/mfgr/ibm/raven/
13:54.52mozratIBM Thinkpad tablet
13:55.23mozratNow... I'm not saying that morsing should buy it for me on his own.. but I think collectively the channel should....
13:55.26mozratnevermind :(
13:59.28kbsinghmozrat, hey ( and that lappy looks nice )
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14:02.39morsingstephanb2!
14:02.49stephanb2morsing!
14:02.53morsingmozrat: I'll buy it for you
14:03.18mozratmorsing: thanks!
14:03.39mozratkbsingh: quite unusual to see a tablet so well supported
14:04.04mozratI'd be afraid of ever changing distro on it though - I think they have modified Fedora a lot to get stuff to work
14:06.40kbsinghmozrat, a SLES rebuild project kicked off a few days back ( if you are even interested )
14:08.59mozratI am interested
14:09.06mozratsimilar to CentOS?
14:09.42mozratin methology
14:09.53mozratumm ibot spell methology
14:09.59mozratibot spell methology
14:10.20mozratyeah - the 4th one
14:11.35kbsinghmozrat, yes- seems to be
14:11.47mozratkbsingh - do you have a url?
14:11.55kbsinghmight even get roped into the CentOS framework - at the moment the efforts are on to try and reproduce the Suse build environment
14:12.25kbsinghmozrat, not yet - but the 2 guys going at it come onto irc
14:12.33kbsinghI'll get an email addy for you
14:12.47mozratty
14:13.25wethrinmorsing: hello
14:13.28wethrinmorsing: Founders Arms
14:26.17morsingwethrin: Thanks
14:55.54morsingBeer
14:56.06morsingwethrin: When and where is LBW this year?
15:15.01stephanb2sorry what does methology mean ?
15:18.22mozratstephanb2: means I cannot spell
15:18.45stephanb2method-o-logy -> methodology ?
15:18.58mozratstephanb2: :-|
15:19.00mozratyes
15:19.04boudiccasstephanb2; the science and study of meths drinking
15:19.10mozrathey boudiccas
15:19.16boudiccasmozrat; hiyas
15:21.45stephanb2boudiccas: ah then how do u say "drinking" in greek ?
15:22.11boudiccasstephanb2; not a clue :)
15:32.35morsingboudiccas: Italian?
15:36.05boudiccasmorsing; not a clue again, but then 'I'm english :)
15:49.59stephanb2boudiccas: mayb i can help me find out why i can't get haldaemon to run on fc4 ?
15:50.21morsingboudiccas: Run!
16:04.26morsingDerek claims he's really David Wilson?!
16:15.51stephanb2morsing: who is David Wilson ?
16:19.01mozratVictor Meldrew?
16:30.21stephanb2ooiiiiiii dooont belieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve it !
16:30.53stephanb2that would make a stunning name for a linux distro
16:30.59stephanb2"one foot in the grave"
16:31.08stephanb2oh the beeb would sue use :-(
16:31.15stephanb2s/use/us
16:31.37mozrat:)
16:32.38kbsinghapart from munich, is there any really worth-watching movie out there at the moment ?
16:35.24mozratkbsingh: start watching 24 series 5
16:36.55stephanb2kbsingh: there is a movie not* to watch : memoirs of a geisha
16:38.40stephanb2kbsingh: i think "The Ipcress File" is going to be re-released. hopefully with a new print.
16:39.29stephanb2that's a smashing good movie that is. with Michael Caine
16:39.46kbsinghmozrat, a potential date lineup for Saturday, i asked her what she wanted to do - and she said movie.
16:40.15kbsinghshe might not take too well to me steering her homeward ... specially since I've never actually met her before ever
16:40.18stephanb2hmmm Ipcress File might not be a "her" movie thou...
16:40.59kbsinghstephanb2, humm.. i know i want to watch Memoirs of a Geisha, just cause everyone has said its an odd movie. but will wait for that on dvd.
16:41.42stephanb2kbsingh: its not odd. it's american and hollywood. no surprises.
16:41.59stephanb2the ronseal wood varnish of film production
16:42.21kbsinghvery much wait for screenselect to get it then :)
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16:46.59mozrat<PROTECTED>
16:47.06mozratthat might not be a good idea
16:48.44kbsinghmozrat, not for the first date, no
16:49.04kbsinghneed an exit strategy on first dates, always
16:51.09Georgeheh
16:51.17Georgesomeone won't believe me that x86 cpus these days have RISC cores
16:57.54mozratGeorge: been writing any more articles?
16:58.00Georgemozrat: no :(
16:58.06Georgemozrat: Linux Format seem to be ignoring me
16:58.21GeorgeI ought to try and write another email to them
17:12.24mozratshame
17:28.53boudiccasstephanb2; sorry i don't use fc, I'm using centos
17:33.39mozratkbsingh: if you get find an email address for those SLES guys I'd be interested to talk to them
17:33.45mozratbut for now... hometime!
17:33.51mozratsee you all later
17:34.30kbsinghmozrat, I will
17:34.32kbsinghmozrat, ta ta
17:40.52stephanb2ok everybody. time to go home
17:40.59stephanb2bye!
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19:02.20gregjhttp://www.metku.net/index.html?sect=view&n=1&path=mods/uv_drawing/index_eng
19:02.21gregj:D
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21:29.23AndrewBlackhi there
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21:48.00Georgehey AndrewBlack
21:48.25Georgewho's going to be at the meeting next wednesday?
21:48.26GeorgeI will be
21:59.03mozratGood evening
21:59.12mozratmeeting? Wednesday?
21:59.20mozratpossibly if it is mid-week
21:59.28mozratwhich.. wednesday appears to be
22:01.00wethrinGllug meet?
22:01.02wethrinOh, yes
22:01.03wethrinI won't be
22:01.22wethrinI'll be there on Friday though
22:01.57Georgebtw
22:02.01Georgewho the hell is "Salsaman"?
22:02.10Georgesounds like some Doritos marketing cartoon guy
22:02.17mozratthat is his actual name
22:02.24Georgereally?
22:02.27mozratI thought it was a mailing list / IRC alias
22:02.28z00dax:)
22:02.28Georgehis name is "Salsaman"?
22:02.37Georgeyou've GOT to be kidding
22:02.42mozratlike the name mozrat... or z00dax. or George
22:03.16Georgemozrat: but that's not your real name..
22:03.20Georgesame with z00dax
22:03.29z00daxwethrin, whats happening on Friday ?
22:03.37mozratahh, maybe it isn't
22:03.51Georgemozrat: someone should inform him of the deed poll
22:03.52mozratGeorge: exactly. Mozrat is an alias like z00dax or george
22:03.57wethrinz00dax: PUB! And food
22:04.01Georgegeorge isn't an alias.
22:04.05Georgegeorge is my bloody name
22:04.13z00daxwethrin, this friday the 10th ? or next friday the 17th ?
22:04.33wethrinz00dax: I haven't sent the message to Social yet
22:04.34mozratGeorge: your name is really George?
22:04.39Georgeyes
22:04.40mozratand you are a teenager?
22:04.43mozratin 2006?
22:04.43Georgeyes!
22:04.46mozratbwahahahahahaha
22:04.48z00daxno wait
22:04.57mozratman, your parents must have really hated you
22:05.04z00daxwethrin, i saw something on the -social
22:05.04Georgemozrat: ?
22:05.21z00daxor maybe not
22:05.25z00daxnot it is
22:05.53mozratGeorge: pulling your leg
22:06.53wethrinz00dax: I haven't sent the mail yet
22:11.12Georgemozrat: weirdo
22:14.22mozratGeorge: ty
22:14.54mozrathaircut?
22:14.58Georgeno
22:14.58Georgeflu
22:15.08GeorgeI've eaten about 2 times since sunday
22:15.36wethrinIt's okay. You're large enough :)
22:15.38mozratcondolences
22:15.52Georgewethrin: hrmmph.
22:15.56Georgewethrin: I'm still fatter than most :D
22:16.06wethrinyup :)
22:17.31George:P
22:18.34wethrinYaaay!
22:20.49Georgewhy the gllug meeting next wednesday so late at night?
22:21.30z00dax6pm is late ?
22:24.48George7pm
22:24.56Georgeoh, it's because it's after work
22:25.25wethrinz00dax: It's after his bedtime
22:25.37Georgewethrin: fatso
22:25.42wethrinOi
22:26.00z00daxso anyway, I changed laptops
22:26.10z00daxsold the Clevo, got an Acer instead now
22:26.14Georgeclevo?
22:26.22Georgewas that the 9 tonne monster you ordered?
22:26.28ErwinWas that the dual-core opteron quad-cpu thing? :)
22:26.31z00daxthe dualcore with 200gig raid0 and 2 gigs of ram ? that clevo
22:26.35z00daxErwin, yes!
22:26.39Georgeidiot.
22:26.43Georgewhy'd you get rid of it?
22:27.15z00daxyou know when we were all joking here... about the battery life being 45 seconds
22:27.42z00daxwell, with the 9 cell btty, it was doing about 20 min - tops
22:27.55mozratheh
22:27.57z00daxand at 5.3kg's it was a bit on the well-fed side
22:27.58mozratthats nuts
22:28.27Georgehttp://www.clevo.com.tw/products/L570W.asp
22:28.34Georgewas it that thing?
22:29.50z00daxhttp://www.alienware.co.uk/product_detail_pages/Aurora_m7700/aurora-m_features.aspx?SysCode=PC-EU-LT-AURM7700&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT
22:30.35z00daxlooked like this : http://www.sagernotebook.com/pages/notebooks/product.cfm?ProductType=9750
22:31.25Georgewhat an ugly fucker of a laptop
22:32.04ErwinIt had.. RAID?
22:32.20z00daxErwin, 2x7200rpm seagate 100gb drives
22:32.33wethrinSo it's a desktop system with a UPS? :)\
22:32.43z00daxwethrin, pretty much
22:32.50wethrinHeh
22:33.10GeorgeI bet my server's ups lasts longer than the battery on that thing
22:33.12z00daxif you really wanted to get anal, you could get an extra hdd bay in place of the dvd-rw drive slot
22:33.44Georgethat's what I did with my thinkpad
22:34.12wethrinGot anal with it?
22:34.16wethrinWe really didn't need to know that
22:35.59wethrinMmm. Fat.
22:38.36mozratWhy does alienware use a crappy self-signed SSL cert?
22:43.16Georgebecause they suck
22:44.29AndrewBlackwetrhin - I am confused.  Are you in London this w/e or next
22:45.57wethrinAndrewBlack: This weekend
22:46.11wethrinNext weekend I'm back in Durham; the weekend after that is Fosdem
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23:40.21wethrinAC!
23:43.21mozratangelchild: hello
23:46.53angelchildheyo
23:53.01angelchildooh
23:53.27Georgetoo late fatso
23:54.58wethrinHmm. I have labs tomorrow. Blah.
23:55.08Georgelabs?
23:55.11Georgesupervising?
23:55.14wethrinYes
23:55.16Georgeharharhar
23:55.19Georgephysics?
23:55.29wethrinNo. I'm in the Engineering department
23:55.29Georgeor home economics?
23:55.34wethrinI do Electronics labs
23:55.38Georgeliar
23:55.47wethrinno
23:55.47Georgeyou teach them how to cook sausages in home ec
23:55.53wethrinMmm. Sossidges
23:56.02George:P
23:59.50wethrinGeorge: What's your backup Uni choice?

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