| 00:02.03 | George | not sure yet |
| 00:03.21 | angelchild | I didn't have a backup |
| 00:03.50 | George | you suck though |
| 00:03.53 | George | where'd you apply to? |
| 00:03.59 | angelchild | southampton |
| 00:04.06 | George | anywhere else? |
| 00:04.17 | angelchild | cambridge (they offered an interview, I didn't go), warwick, york, err... sheffield |
| 00:04.26 | George | useless child |
| 00:04.29 | angelchild | oh, and imperial |
| 00:04.44 | George | why didn't you go to cambs for the interview? |
| 00:04.59 | wethrin | Because cam sucks |
| 00:05.05 | wethrin | And AC is more sensible than that |
| 00:05.41 | George | wethrin: you suck |
| 00:05.58 | George | cam > * |
| 00:06.07 | George | ox < * |
| 00:06.08 | wethrin | rubbish |
| 00:06.23 | George | codswallop |
| 00:06.46 | wethrin | That logic is along the lines of "Nothing is better than sex; masturbation is better than nothing. Therefore masturbation is better than sex" |
| 00:07.02 | George | wtf |
| 00:08.04 | George | you suck |
| 00:08.47 | George | I'd rather not have a degree than have a degree from oxford :) |
| 00:09.38 | wethrin | fine |
| 00:09.41 | George | hehe |
| 00:09.56 | George | let's stop the oxbridge rivalry here |
| 00:09.59 | George | we all know cam is better |
| 00:10.10 | wethrin | I disagree |
| 00:10.22 | George | you bloody would |
| 00:10.29 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 00:10.31 | George | civctp time |
| 00:10.32 | wethrin | Because I'm RIGHT |
| 00:10.37 | George | and I'm WRIGHT |
| 00:11.07 | wethrin | Good |
| 00:11.19 | wethrin | night! |
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| 00:31.43 | mozrat | nn |
| 00:31.44 | z00dax | mozrat, nite |
| 00:41.43 | George | lovely |
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| 07:17.33 | morsing | 'morning |
| 07:17.36 | Leeds | hello |
| 07:17.57 | morsing | How are you? |
| 07:19.17 | Leeds | not bad... you? |
| 07:29.15 | morsing | Crap |
| 07:29.55 | Leeds | yeah? |
| 07:30.00 | morsing | Mmm... |
| 07:31.20 | Leeds | ill crap or life crap? |
| 07:31.30 | morsing | Life crap |
| 07:31.35 | morsing | Work crap |
| 07:31.37 | Leeds | ah |
| 07:37.56 | morsing | How's the bra industry? |
| 07:38.14 | Leeds | toddling along |
| 07:38.26 | morsing | Nice. Can you send me a free sample? |
| 07:38.32 | Leeds | I'm just applying for an Australian visa |
| 07:38.42 | Leeds | we might have some spare mis-shapes... |
| 07:38.47 | morsing | Leeds: Great. When can I come a visit you in HK? |
| 07:38.55 | morsing | mis-shapes? |
| 07:39.44 | Leeds | ibot change 20 aud to gbp |
| 07:39.46 | morsing | Where is Chessington ? |
| 07:40.28 | Leeds | traditionally, places like chocolate factories would sell cheap stuff in their factory shop - particularly mis-shapen products which couldn't be packaged and sold |
| 07:40.37 | Leeds | I'm not sure, but there's a world of adventure there |
| 07:41.09 | morsing | Ahh... |
| 07:46.19 | Leeds | damn, I can't work in .au while I'm there |
| 07:46.54 | morsing | Cool |
| 07:48.29 | morsing | ibot change 110 USD to GBP |
| 07:49.05 | morsing | ibot change 90 USD to GBP |
| 07:49.07 | Leeds | a british passport is a useful piece of kit... |
| 07:49.12 | morsing | Is it? |
| 07:52.13 | morsing | Hmm... List price in the UK for four Bilstein SD dampers £1400 |
| 07:52.26 | morsing | Price from US website - £230 |
| 07:52.41 | morsing | Difficult choice... |
| 07:53.57 | Leeds | just add shipping and tax... |
| 07:54.14 | morsing | So you reckon £1200 shipping and tax? |
| 07:54.43 | Leeds | no - maybe up to £500 total |
| 07:54.50 | morsing | I'm guessing shipping is less than £50 |
| 07:55.03 | morsing | How do I calculate the tax? |
| 07:55.06 | Leeds | of course, I have no idea what those things are - they could be huge and heavy, they could be tiny and light |
| 07:55.36 | Leeds | assuming they (whatever they are) aren't dutiable (i.e. booze, fags, etc.) you're looking at 17.5% VAT |
| 07:55.48 | morsing | VAT isn't tax |
| 07:56.00 | Leeds | uh... what does the T stand for? |
| 07:56.16 | morsing | Tax |
| 07:56.45 | Leeds | then in what way is it not tax? |
| 07:57.13 | morsing | It's not |
| 07:58.14 | morsing | http://image.www.rakuten.co.jp/upg-e/img1025925380.jpeg |
| 07:58.40 | Leeds | that doesn't make VAT not being a tax any clearer |
| 07:58.45 | morsing | Cool |
| 07:58.56 | morsing | So £40 tax |
| 07:59.05 | morsing | Adds up to £320 |
| 07:59.18 | morsing | So you still think I should buy from the UK? |
| 07:59.21 | Leeds | I wouldn't imagine they'd be *cheap* to ship... I'd say more |
| 07:59.36 | Leeds | when did I ever say you should buy from the UK? I avoid buying from the UK whenever possible! |
| 07:59.37 | morsing | Ok, £360 |
| 08:00.04 | morsing | Ohh... I thought you tried to scare me from buying in the US with all that tax talk |
| 08:00.49 | Leeds | oh, no - just stating the facts |
| 08:00.58 | morsing | Ah... |
| 08:02.37 | Leeds | the only other issue - which may be obvious - is to make sure that the US website is a site you can trust - if for no other reason than because I'd imagine it could be harder chasing them legally if there's trouble |
| 08:03.05 | morsing | Leeds: They seem to be well known in the BMW circles. |
| 08:03.10 | morsing | I think I can trust them |
| 08:04.50 | Leeds | go for it then |
| 08:04.56 | morsing | Thanks :-) |
| 08:05.16 | Leeds | my pleasure :-) |
| 08:08.16 | morsing | Are we alone? |
| 08:14.10 | Leeds | seems that way |
| 08:14.18 | Leeds | apart from ibot, of course |
| 08:33.06 | wethrin | mooin |
| 08:33.06 | Leeds | moomin? |
| 08:33.52 | wethrin | yes |
| 08:35.26 | Leeds | moomin troll? |
| 08:36.16 | wethrin | Yes! Under a bridge. Or something |
| 08:37.30 | Leeds | running away from a comet? |
| 08:37.35 | wethrin | Quite |
| 08:38.58 | mozrat | morning |
| 08:40.02 | Leeds | mozrat: hello |
| 08:41.03 | wethrin | Right. Time for me to go and attempt to instil some fea^Wknowledge into undergrads |
| 08:41.59 | Leeds | ha ha, you're a teacher! |
| 08:43.21 | mozrat | Leeds: g'morning |
| 09:01.25 | Leeds | hmm... is watching the log of my website and tracerouting every visitor a bit excessive? |
| 09:05.17 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 09:06.09 | morsing | ibot moomin |
| 09:06.19 | morsing | mozrat! |
| 09:06.27 | morsing | mozrat: Are you back for good? |
| 09:06.49 | morsing | Leeds: Yes it is |
| 09:06.58 | morsing | I'm back from breakfast btw |
| 09:07.57 | Leeds | which was? |
| 09:08.06 | Leeds | another pet breadroll? |
| 09:09.37 | morsing | Yes |
| 09:19.36 | Cope | morning |
| 09:25.50 | Cope | or not |
| 09:26.04 | Leeds | not, but you're welcome to it anyway |
| 09:26.05 | mozrat | morsing: like "Take That"? |
| 09:26.28 | mozrat | Leeds - you have 2 blogs right? |
| 09:26.31 | Cope | mozrat: I think it unlikely that morsing is a fan |
| 09:26.36 | Leeds | mozrat: I do |
| 09:26.48 | mozrat | Why has planet.gllug.org.uk got a syndication to the one you never ever update? |
| 09:26.53 | mozrat | Hey Cope! |
| 09:27.31 | Leeds | because that's the technical one rather than the "random stuff, particularly life in Hong Kong" one, which seemed more appropriate... I emailed Dean about it at the start of this week, but I haven't heard back from him |
| 09:27.42 | Leeds | Jude? |
| 09:37.06 | morsing | Cope! |
| 09:37.25 | morsing | mozrat: You're planning on coming here every day? |
| 09:37.42 | morsing | Cope: Why do you say that? |
| 09:44.24 | mozrat | morsing: I wasn't intentionally absent - just been busy |
| 09:46.24 | morsing | Check it! |
| 09:46.28 | morsing | Cope? |
| 09:47.10 | Leeds | mozrat: do you think a non-technical blog by a (ex?) GLLUG member should be on planet? |
| 10:03.26 | George | u/win 34 |
| 10:04.17 | Leeds | George: are you sure? |
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| 10:11.33 | Leeds | kbsingh! |
| 10:12.34 | kbsingh | Leeds! |
| 10:15.58 | morsing | No mail server on the modern Internet should generate bounces for |
| 10:15.59 | morsing | > unroutable mail. (I'd hope the MessageLabs guy told you as much.) |
| 10:16.06 | morsing | What does he mean by that? |
| 10:16.11 | morsing | ~seen z00dax |
| 10:16.19 | ibot | z00dax is currently on #gllug (8d 8h 51m 7s). Has said a total of 137 messages. Is idling for 9h 44m 35s, last said: 'mozrat, nite'. |
| 10:16.39 | morsing | Hello? |
| 10:17.48 | morsing | Check it! |
| 10:18.21 | Cope | mozrat: militiary translation requested |
| 10:19.41 | Leeds | morsing: either... your mail server should check if the return address is routable before generating a bounce, or your mail server should not generate bounces for mails sent to an unroutable addres |
| 10:20.56 | Cope | ibot nslookup xml.maplin.co.uk |
| 10:24.18 | mozrat | Cope, send |
| 10:24.45 | mozrat | ibot seen jason_ukfsn |
| 10:24.48 | ibot | jason_ukfsn <n=chatzill@spc2-watf3-5-0-cust146.asfd.broadband.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 46d 18h 4m 36s ago, saying: 'have a happy Christmas all'. |
| 10:25.05 | Cope | mozrat: primary comms |
| 10:25.12 | Cope | mozrat: I assume == "in person" |
| 10:25.24 | mozrat | syntax? |
| 10:25.34 | mozrat | Cope, you work with a right lot of Walter Mitties |
| 10:25.39 | Cope | Cope: I will communicate this information to you via primary comm |
| 10:25.39 | mozrat | They need to move on and get a life |
| 10:25.42 | Cope | lol |
| 10:26.00 | Cope | they're fun |
| 10:26.06 | Cope | but there are a lot of them |
| 10:26.11 | mozrat | Cope, I think your translation is correct |
| 10:26.28 | Cope | 4 in eyesight |
| 10:26.30 | mozrat | "During the war....." zzzZZZZzzzZZZzzzz |
| 10:26.33 | Cope | lol |
| 10:26.49 | Cope | they're all young |
| 10:26.59 | Cope | oldest would be 40 |
| 10:27.04 | Cope | maybe one is mid 40s |
| 10:27.05 | mozrat | I recommended UKFSN to a friend of mine - he can't get anything out of Jason recently |
| 10:27.12 | mozrat | he's sent 3 emails |
| 10:28.00 | Cope | i see the problem |
| 10:28.06 | Leeds | I sent him some email right after new year, never got a response |
| 10:28.57 | mozrat | Hmm |
| 10:31.12 | Leeds | his last mail to the list appears to have been on 04/01 |
| 10:31.53 | morsing | mozrat: I have the same problem |
| 10:37.17 | Cope | clue: |
| 10:37.23 | Cope | I recommended UKFSN |
| 10:37.27 | Cope | ;-D |
| 10:37.33 | Cope | I do hope he's ok |
| 10:37.54 | Cope | ~seen jason_ukfsn |
| 10:37.55 | ibot | jason_ukfsn <n=chatzill@spc2-watf3-5-0-cust146.asfd.broadband.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 46d 18h 17m 43s ago, saying: 'have a happy Christmas all'. |
| 10:38.01 | Cope | aww |
| 10:38.02 | Cope | bless |
| 10:39.59 | mozrat | I hope he is OK also.. |
| 10:47.14 | morsing | Check it! |
| 10:50.47 | mozrat | check what? |
| 10:51.25 | George | blurgh |
| 11:00.00 | Leedshome | erev tov chaverim! |
| 11:01.39 | George | durham have invited me to go to a post-offer open day |
| 11:02.58 | Leedshome | go, and leave your bloody laptop at home |
| 11:03.08 | George | Leedshome: why? |
| 11:03.16 | George | "bloody laptop"? :( |
| 11:03.43 | George | I don't really have much intention of going to Durham |
| 11:04.35 | Leedshome | ah, suppose not... |
| 11:05.06 | George | my firm offer will be cambridge... and I think it's foolish to have an AAA offer for insurance |
| 11:13.53 | morsing | George: I think Leedshome meant that if you left you laptop at home you wouldn't annoy us while you were away |
| 11:14.22 | George | haha |
| 11:14.32 | morsing | It wasn't funny |
| 11:14.36 | George | yes it was |
| 11:14.37 | George | so shush |
| 11:15.38 | Leedshome | uh, pretty much the opposite |
| 11:21.15 | morsing | Leedshome: What?! |
| 11:24.29 | Leedshome | I meant that if he was going to go, he should leave his Internet friends behind and actually try to interact with some 3 dimensional people |
| 11:25.08 | George | I don't have any internet friends |
| 11:25.09 | George | liar! |
| 11:25.24 | Leedshome | true - internet enemies |
| 11:25.25 | morsing | George: You don't have any friends at all |
| 11:25.51 | George | precisely |
| 11:26.09 | kbsingh | humm.. 3-d friends. |
| 11:34.10 | Cope | George: twat |
| 11:36.02 | George | Cope: what? |
| 11:36.58 | Erwin | Hmm. I've won back 20 pounds from National Lottery stuff. My current balance is still at about -<morsing's paycheck this month> |
| 11:39.34 | Leedshome | A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away... |
| 11:43.20 | morsing | Cope: Be nice! |
| 11:43.35 | morsing | Erwin: Ha ha! |
| 11:43.45 | morsing | Leedshome: What? |
| 11:43.57 | Erwin | morsing: Hey, you should set up some referrer system :-) |
| 11:44.06 | morsing | Erwin: Should I? |
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| 11:44.56 | morsing | gregj_! |
| 11:49.39 | morsing | Mmm... Scotthall |
| 11:52.02 | morsing | Lunchtime! |
| 12:08.08 | Leedshome | morsing: scotthall? |
| 12:37.39 | morsing | Leedshome: Pilling? |
| 12:39.50 | Leedshome | morsing: why did you say scotthall? |
| 12:41.18 | morsing | Leedshome: Because they suck |
| 12:41.26 | morsing | Leedshome: But you wouldn't care |
| 12:42.39 | Leedshome | who are they? |
| 12:43.53 | Leedshome | this is the BMW dealer on Scott Hall Road in Leeds? |
| 12:44.43 | morsing | Leedshome: It's a group of BMW dealers |
| 12:48.25 | Leedshome | based on Scott Hall Road in Leeds |
| 12:51.47 | morsing | Leedshome: Cool] |
| 12:51.50 | morsing | I didn't know |
| 12:52.01 | Leedshome | my dad had a car or two from them |
| 12:52.02 | morsing | They still suck tho |
| 12:55.29 | wethrin | wibble |
| 12:57.27 | morsing | wobble |
| 12:57.45 | wethrin | ugh |
| 12:59.08 | George | and series 4 ended with a bloody cliffhanger. |
| 13:04.58 | Leedshome | no! try not! do! or do not... there is no try |
| 13:05.11 | Cope | indeed |
| 13:05.14 | Cope | as Italy discovered |
| 13:05.43 | Leedshome | heh |
| 13:06.04 | morsing | Check it~! |
| 13:24.03 | George | Leedshome: watching episode V? |
| 13:26.30 | morsing | Check it! |
| 13:27.01 | George | "Any person with half a brain knows the pipelines of the P4 make even a 1Ghz G4 twice as fast as a Pentium 4.Any person with half a brain knows the pipelines of the P4 make even a 1Ghz G4 twice as fast as a Pentium 4. " |
| 13:27.05 | George | EWWW |
| 13:27.10 | George | someone sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about |
| 13:43.40 | Leedshome | George: tes |
| 13:43.47 | Leedshome | s/tes/yes |
| 13:46.06 | George | Leedshome: yes to what? |
| 13:47.18 | Leedshome | watching Empire |
| 13:47.35 | Cope | George: why did you say that twice? |
| 13:48.45 | George | Cope: accidentally hit the middle button twice |
| 13:48.52 | Cope | George: and in terms of what you say, it depends on how you measure speed; P4 pipelines are *massively* long, and so you can do limited numbers of instructions per cycle, so in that respect, architecturally, the statement is accurate. Of course, the "twice as" claim is silly. |
| 13:49.12 | George | Cope: I know the twice as claim is utterly ludicrous |
| 13:49.20 | Cope | George: I would hope you would. |
| 13:50.01 | George | Cope: didn't Intel choose to make the P4's pipeline stupidly long because they were scared about the Athlon and chose to make a long pipeline processor so they could just keep churning up the clock speed without doing major architectural changes? |
| 13:51.41 | Cope | George: I think that would be a fair claim to make. |
| 13:52.18 | George | Cope: heh |
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| 13:52.41 | stephanb2 | hello everybody |
| 13:53.05 | morsing | stephanb2! |
| 13:53.15 | stephanb2 | i slept on my haldaemon -> oops problem |
| 13:53.22 | stephanb2 | and i have a stupid question |
| 13:54.03 | stephanb2 | would it help if i compiled hal from source rather than using the rpm? would it help if i re-compiled my kernel from source ? |
| 13:55.02 | morsing | stephanb2: Reboot twice and it would be fixed |
| 13:55.12 | George | hrmm |
| 13:55.17 | George | the guy who made that claim was a Law student in Cambridge |
| 13:55.26 | stephanb2 | morsing: by Jesus Christ our Lord ;-) |
| 13:55.58 | kbsingh | stephanb2, do you actually even use HALd ? |
| 13:56.22 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: i could live without, but not my gf |
| 13:56.35 | kbsingh | I got email from someone with an @compuserve.com addy |
| 13:56.56 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: she will find it a pain to *mount* cd-roms, and the usb printer will probabaly not come up |
| 14:03.02 | morsing | stephanb2: I said that to an operator here once and he was just about to do it... |
| 14:11.48 | Cope | lol |
| 14:12.58 | George | WURBLE!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:13.09 | George | MULTIPASS! |
| 14:19.09 | wethrin | shush |
| 14:19.45 | wethrin | George! |
| 14:19.47 | Cope | hello wethrin |
| 14:20.12 | wethrin | Cope! |
| 14:20.16 | George | wethrin: do you dislike stupid people who are wrong but think they're right? |
| 14:20.17 | wethrin | See you tomorrow? |
| 14:20.24 | wethrin | George: YEs |
| 14:20.27 | George | good. |
| 14:20.28 | Cope | wethrin: unsure... at what time do you arrive? |
| 14:20.34 | wethrin | Cope: 5.30 into Kings X |
| 14:20.35 | George | wethrin: do you dislike me then? :P |
| 14:20.42 | wethrin | George: Of course :-) |
| 14:20.45 | George | moo |
| 14:20.48 | Cope | George: because you are a back-to-front |
| 14:20.56 | George | back-to-front? |
| 14:21.01 | Cope | indeed |
| 14:22.05 | kbsingh | mikejw, as in the 233Mhz G3 ? |
| 14:22.13 | kbsingh | or was that the 300Mhz one |
| 14:22.33 | mikejw | ummm... not sure :S |
| 14:22.44 | mikejw | but I want to take it home with me either way |
| 14:23.03 | Cope | George: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=back+to+front |
| 14:23.42 | George | ewwww, OS X |
| 14:24.10 | mikejw | I've never owned a Mac :( |
| 14:24.12 | George | Cope: you suck penises |
| 14:24.19 | wethrin | I like my Mac |
| 14:24.25 | George | I don't |
| 14:24.28 | Cope | George: this is true; do you? |
| 14:24.32 | wethrin | Give it to me, then |
| 14:24.35 | George | Cope: no. |
| 14:24.44 | George | ok |
| 14:24.49 | George | home is getting more boring by the day |
| 14:24.57 | George | I've spent three days in bed |
| 14:25.02 | George | === boring |
| 14:25.26 | mikejw | > watchingPaintDry? |
| 14:28.52 | mikejw | maybe no |
| 14:28.59 | Cope | debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/openwin/bin/xauth -f /tmp/ssh-UKrdeD8984/xauthfile generate t1a.isasecdb.digex.com.dock:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 untrusted timeout 1200 2>/dev/null |
| 14:29.07 | Cope | </morsing> |
| 14:29.16 | Cope | sorry... paste into wrong xterm |
| 14:29.48 | George | I'M BORED |
| 14:29.49 | George | :'( |
| 14:36.47 | stephanb2 | mikejw: do u intend to use OS-X with the graphic interface on a 200MHz G3 ? |
| 14:38.09 | mikejw | stephanb2: if I am then it's not my crackpot shceme :) |
| 14:39.12 | mikejw | I think the idea is just to make the job of supporting mac users a little easier for everyone and we got the machine for free |
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| 14:42.24 | mikejw | in fact we got two of them but apparently the other one won't boot :S |
| 14:46.12 | morsing | JAV! |
| 14:55.56 | morsing | Can uncompress send to std out? |
| 15:02.58 | Erwin | uncompress -c |
| 15:06.39 | morsing | Erwin: IF I do that it says "Cannot create" |
| 15:07.17 | Erwin | maybe it's a gnu option, check the man page? |
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| 15:28.33 | morsing | Gonzo! |
| 15:28.48 | morsing | Erwin: We don't have man pages |
| 15:44.48 | JAV | hello! |
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| 16:10.35 | morsing | How do I mount a CD on Solaris? |
| 16:11.05 | kbsingh | if you are running linux under Brandz you could just use mount cdrom |
| 16:11.11 | kbsingh | :) |
| 16:12.24 | morsing | kbsingh: Thanks |
| 16:14.39 | morsing | Help! |
| 16:17.17 | morsing | What type is iso in Solaris |
| 16:17.17 | morsing | ? |
| 16:18.00 | kbsingh | no idea |
| 16:18.15 | kbsingh | hsfs ? |
| 16:18.24 | kbsingh | ( so says someone else on a diff channel ) |
| 16:20.26 | morsing | Yeah, I just found that out! WTF is HSFS?! |
| 16:21.03 | kbsingh | dunno |
| 16:21.10 | kbsingh | ibot, what is hsfs |
| 16:21.12 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, kbsingh |
| 16:21.20 | morsing | ibot what is jfs |
| 16:21.22 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, morsing |
| 16:21.37 | kbsingh | looks like he skipped his filesystem lessons |
| 16:26.43 | morsing | ibot check it |
| 16:49.08 | wethrin | yaaay! |
| 16:57.36 | Cope | morsing: high sierra file system |
| 16:57.46 | Cope | hometime |
| 16:58.04 | mikejw | waggledance? |
| 16:58.09 | wethrin | Beer! |
| 16:58.17 | mikejw | Be-er? |
| 16:58.26 | mikejw | :) |
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| 17:15.47 | morsing | stephanb2! |
| 17:16.03 | morsing | mikejw: Honey beer! :-D |
| 17:16.41 | stephanb2 | morsing: freedom Compassion! :-D |
| 17:17.06 | morsing | stephanb2: What?! |
| 17:17.42 | stephanb2 | a variation on "Honey beer!" |
| 17:18.28 | morsing | Cool |
| 17:18.33 | mikejw | mmm nice |
| 17:20.04 | stephanb2 | actually, if there is something called "Bastille Linux" |
| 17:20.14 | wethrin | Can we storm it? |
| 17:21.00 | stephanb2 | how come there isnt a "Krishna Linux", "Dharma Linux" |
| 17:21.50 | kbsingh | hrrrm ? |
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| 17:22.04 | stephanb2 | and more controversial "Jihad Linux" |
| 17:22.15 | stephanb2 | etc... |
| 17:22.24 | kbsingh | what the connection between Krishna and Dharma to start with, and then extend it to Bastille ? |
| 17:24.52 | stephanb2 | well I was brought up in France. for me Bastille is a symbol of the French Revolution |
| 17:25.45 | stephanb2 | the connection being they are all symbols of religions or belief systems |
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| 17:29.49 | kbsingh | I dont think Krishna has any real fanatical following |
| 17:30.57 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: well there is ISKCON. |
| 17:31.14 | kbsingh | just a money making racket |
| 17:31.24 | stephanb2 | yeah sure |
| 17:31.44 | stephanb2 | but there is some aspect of that in certain christian congregations |
| 17:33.08 | kbsingh | really ? |
| 17:34.08 | kbsingh | like what ? |
| 17:34.20 | stephanb2 | ok, the money racket is not at the centre of the operation |
| 17:35.00 | stephanb2 | but behind the scenes, there is a building (the church), a board of directors (trustees), employees, etc |
| 17:35.14 | kbsingh | oh you mean that way |
| 17:35.19 | stephanb2 | the purpose is maybe not to make money |
| 17:35.27 | kbsingh | I thought more in a theology and the whole hare rama, hare krishna thing |
| 17:35.39 | stephanb2 | however money governs certain things |
| 17:35.58 | stephanb2 | oh money is kept well clear from theology |
| 17:36.16 | stephanb2 | in order not to soil god's dress |
| 17:38.09 | kbsingh | ok, so this is an open ended discussion - and I need to leave from work in 10 min. maybe some other day we'll pick this up |
| 17:38.31 | kbsingh | btw, not sure if I mentioned this to you guys - a freak incident almost a month back ... |
| 17:38.36 | Kitty | anyone here used iscsi? |
| 17:38.52 | kbsingh | someone knocked on my door, reall loud. rather than a Knock Knock, it was a Whack Whact |
| 17:39.03 | kbsingh | and slipped a copy of the Koran through the door, and walked off. |
| 17:39.51 | kbsingh | at the time I found it rather amusing, but reflecting back - I wonder if its my neighbours giving me a hint ? |
| 17:40.38 | stephanb2 | hmmm not sure wot 2 make out of that |
| 17:42.05 | kbsingh | me neither. |
| 17:42.16 | kbsingh | for the time being, if anyone needs a copy of the koran, its all yours. |
| 17:42.44 | kbsingh | its not even one of those translated ones or anything, this is the original thing, all arabic and everything backwards |
| 17:55.04 | stephanb2 | well... time to go home |
| 17:55.18 | stephanb2 | cu guys l8r |
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| 19:00.43 | Blapto | Hi |
| 19:03.47 | George | argh |
| 19:03.48 | George | argh |
| 19:03.50 | George | it's you |
| 19:04.31 | Blapto | Calm down. |
| 19:04.38 | George | no! |
| 19:04.55 | Blapto | I was saving those for my date this weekend as well. |
| 19:05.08 | George | hahahaha date |
| 19:05.47 | Blapto | Yes, George, females. |
| 19:05.50 | Blapto | (Or males, I suppose) |
| 19:05.58 | George | hahahahahaha females. |
| 19:07.30 | Blapto | Fair enough |
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| 19:51.02 | George | would I be right in saying that "just one was too little" should be changed to "just one was too few"? |
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| 19:53.37 | George | civ time! |
| 20:29.27 | Blapto | Unless just one of the things wasn't large enough. |
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| 20:51.49 | Blapto | Hi Angel |
| 20:52.29 | angelchild | heyo |
| 20:53.04 | Blapto | Alright? |
| 20:54.57 | angelchild | life is good :) though I'm still searching for a summer job |
| 20:56.00 | Blapto | computing based? |
| 20:57.02 | angelchild | aye |
| 20:57.48 | Blapto | I'm sorry, I've forgotten how old you are.... you just graduated? |
| 20:58.49 | angelchild | 19, in second year at soton uni, comp sci :) |
| 20:59.21 | Blapto | ah, ok |
| 20:59.33 | Blapto | Won't the uni help you sort something? |
| 21:03.23 | George | angelchild goes to a rubbish uni |
| 21:03.31 | George | although it's not as bad as oxford :D |
| 21:03.31 | angelchild | they will if i ask |
| 21:03.43 | angelchild | I just need to find the time to :) or rather make the time to |
| 21:03.57 | angelchild | I was planning on working at IBM but I'm sort of in half-shock that I didn't get the job |
| 21:16.03 | Blapto | Ah |
| 21:16.04 | Blapto | Breasts. |
| 21:16.15 | Blapto | You should have two, at a guess. They appear to be quite useful |
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| 21:30.34 | angelchild | heh |
| 21:30.37 | angelchild | not exactly |
| 21:31.14 | angelchild | but nice idea |
| 21:33.35 | stephanb2 | good evenin |
| 21:34.29 | stephanb2 | sorry i missed the "nice idea" :-( |
| 21:36.57 | Blapto | Angel using her breasts in order to get things she wants |
| 21:37.02 | Blapto | Which in the IT sector, almost always works |
| 21:37.23 | stephanb2 | not only in the IT sector |
| 21:37.27 | Blapto | Yeah |
| 21:37.33 | Blapto | Also the * sector |
| 21:37.36 | Blapto | And getting * |
| 21:37.50 | Blapto | We're being a little rude here. |
| 21:38.14 | Blapto | But I've had a bit of a rough time recently, so I'm entitled to be surly :D |
| 21:39.00 | stephanb2 | Blapto: self compassion my dear friend... take a breath. |
| 21:39.31 | stephanb2 | Blapto: complaining that your breasts are not big enough will not do too much im afraid :-( |
| 21:40.50 | Blapto | They're somewhat non existant, being a fairly healthy male. |
| 21:42.23 | stephanb2 | Blapto: that is the physiology. however your message had another psychological meaning. |
| 21:42.39 | stephanb2 | Blapto: "why is it (eventually) harder for me to get what I want?" |
| 21:44.18 | Blapto | Ah |
| 21:44.22 | Blapto | No no no. |
| 21:44.25 | Blapto | I'm just being bitter |
| 21:44.33 | stephanb2 | fair enough |
| 21:44.35 | Blapto | I was dumped... |
| 21:44.37 | Blapto | A week ago |
| 21:44.48 | stephanb2 | ouch |
| 21:45.02 | Blapto | After going out with a girl for about 1.5 years |
| 21:45.13 | stephanb2 | hmmm |
| 21:45.48 | Blapto | And it wasn't a particuarly clean break |
| 21:45.56 | Blapto | and I've done some stupid stuff since as a result. |
| 21:46.04 | Blapto | So I'm going to turn to drink starting tomorrow night. |
| 21:46.18 | Blapto | Alcohol being a fantastic substitute for happiness |
| 21:47.24 | stephanb2 | hmm |
| 21:47.40 | stephanb2 | suffering being a fantastic substitute for suffering |
| 21:47.46 | Blapto | (Not really, I'm just going clubbing with friends Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday night. |
| 21:47.54 | Blapto | And Wednesday night, and Thursday night) |
| 21:48.05 | stephanb2 | ah this i understand better |
| 21:48.19 | stephanb2 | get physical, sweat the pain away |
| 21:49.10 | Blapto | Went to the gym Wednesday |
| 21:49.27 | Blapto | Beat my best mile, so that wasn't too bad |
| 21:49.50 | stephanb2 | u see |
| 21:50.30 | Blapto | Which was one of the stupid things, because now I can hardly walk :D |
| 21:50.51 | stephanb2 | Blapto: u have to stretch |
| 21:51.11 | stephanb2 | imho going 2 the gym is less stupid than drinking |
| 21:51.29 | stephanb2 | at least less toxic |
| 21:51.41 | Blapto | I stretch properly, it's just that I ran 8 miles, which is a little more than my usual 5. |
| 21:51.53 | Blapto | Not used to it. |
| 21:53.03 | z00dax | i had coffee in a extra large mug, about 60gm heavier than my usual |
| 21:53.15 | z00dax | now i feel tired |
| 21:54.01 | Blapto | Didn't the mug contain more coffee though? |
| 21:54.21 | z00dax | nope, dont think so - didnt feel like that |
| 21:54.27 | Blapto | Ah, just thicker. |
| 21:54.36 | z00dax | with a fancy design on it |
| 21:54.58 | Blapto | A design? |
| 21:55.00 | Blapto | Heathen! |
| 21:55.10 | Blapto | You may only drink coffee out of free mugs you got from IBM reps, etc. |
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| 22:01.51 | Blapto | I'm off |
| 22:01.51 | Blapto | bye |
| 22:02.11 | stephanb2 | Blapto: bye |
| 22:02.35 | z00dax | Blapto, nite |
| 22:05.55 | angelchild | bye |
| 22:15.29 | stephanb2 | angelchild: so whats happening tonite ? |
| 22:22.32 | angelchild | tonight? I'm sitting around watching anime probably :) |
| 22:25.43 | stephanb2 | enough entertainment 4 tonite |
| 22:27.25 | stephanb2 | enjoy anime. im gonna go stretch. |
| 22:28.29 | mozrat | hello |
| 22:30.32 | angelchild | heya |
| 22:31.56 | mozrat | how are you angelchild? |
| 22:32.37 | angelchild | well, my tooth just began to hurt, but otherwise I'm good, yourself? |
| 22:33.16 | mozrat | good thanks :-) |
| 22:33.33 | angelchild | good good :) |
| 22:33.44 | mozrat | how is uni? |
| 22:34.44 | George | angelchild: feel better? |
| 22:35.56 | angelchild | uni's quite fun actually, we've just started doing the SEG project. so lots of meetings and it's kind of novel to be working in a group towards an actual target :) |
| 22:36.06 | mozrat | Mmm, good |
| 22:36.30 | angelchild | the networking course is good, though we have databases... which seems to consist of mostly "Here's an SQL query" "Here's another" "Yup, this is another" |
| 22:37.05 | mozrat | select all from angelchild where interest > 0; |
| 22:37.07 | mozrat | ? |
| 22:37.13 | angelchild | something like that :) |
| 22:37.22 | George | hahahaha university is for tards |
| 22:37.36 | angelchild | the AI course is interesting, we mostly seem to be arguing about what exactly "intelligence" is though |
| 22:37.41 | mozrat | select all from george where charisma, good-looks, and common-sense > 0; |
| 22:37.44 | mozrat | no records returned |
| 22:37.51 | George | harharhar |
| 22:38.03 | mozrat | George: :) |
| 22:38.43 | mozrat | I have in front of me... http://www.zyxel.com/product/P2000W.php |
| 22:38.44 | mozrat | nice |
| 22:39.42 | z00dax | mozrat, that does look nice |
| 22:39.53 | z00dax | what do you hookup to ? running your own asterisk ? |
| 22:40.01 | mozrat | z00dax: Not at the moment |
| 22:40.06 | Erwin | Oh.. I remember ZyXel from ye old BBS times |
| 22:40.10 | mozrat | I don't have any suitable hardware at home to run * on |
| 22:40.16 | z00dax | Erwin, me too |
| 22:40.20 | mozrat | I have a Cisco phone hooked up to sipgate |
| 22:40.25 | z00dax | an old p-2 laptop or something seems to work ok |
| 22:40.30 | mozrat | and I'm trying to get this connected as a second handset |
| 22:41.15 | mozrat | z00dax: Hmm, I have an O2 at work |
| 22:41.25 | mozrat | I wonder if I could get that running asterisk |
| 22:41.40 | z00dax | O2 as in the Sgi O2 ? |
| 22:41.44 | mozrat | yes |
| 22:41.47 | z00dax | blimey |
| 22:41.53 | z00dax | its been a while since i saw one of those |
| 22:41.57 | mozrat | :) |
| 22:42.00 | mozrat | I had 3 |
| 22:42.05 | z00dax | spare 1 ? |
| 22:42.05 | mozrat | I gave 2 away on the list |
| 22:42.09 | z00dax | oh |
| 22:42.11 | z00dax | :( |
| 22:42.14 | mozrat | Cope had one, some other chap had the other |
| 22:42.16 | mozrat | sorry :( |
| 22:42.29 | stephanb2 | is the O2 the rounded cube ? or the pizzabox thing ? |
| 22:42.58 | z00dax | mozrat, what are you running on there ? i |
| 22:43.29 | z00dax | pizzabox were the indy's and indigo's i think |
| 22:43.35 | z00dax | MIPS |
| 22:43.44 | mozrat | z00dax: nothing at the moment - still has IRIX on it |
| 22:43.51 | z00dax | prolly in the region of 300mhz to 750mhz, maybe smp |
| 22:43.51 | stephanb2 | yes the Indy, we had one of those, running Wavefront |
| 22:44.15 | stephanb2 | is there a MIPS kernel ? |
| 22:44.28 | stephanb2 | i mean a linux kernel for mips ? |
| 22:44.31 | z00dax | irix.... not a bad choice as a X front end |
| 22:44.32 | mozrat | I think Cope got BSD running on his |
| 22:44.56 | stephanb2 | oh i remember irix running like a charm |
| 22:45.31 | mozrat | stephanb2: we had an IRIX cluster up until 9 months ago |
| 22:45.55 | z00dax | damn, looking on ebay =- and there seems to be a lot of O2 going at the moment... its almost like almost every o2 ever sold is on sale |
| 22:46.13 | stephanb2 | mozrat: wots the advantage over x86 or even PPC ? |
| 22:46.15 | z00dax | mozrat, i think thats where most of your cluster has landed up |
| 22:46.44 | rhowe | Sure, Linux runs on MIPS. The Linksys WRT54G has a MIPS CPU in it, IIRC |
| 22:46.52 | z00dax | rhowe, yup |
| 22:46.52 | mozrat | stephanb2: The company that moved into our building did a lot of 3D rendering - I don't know why they bought it |
| 22:46.53 | stephanb2 | I wonder if i havent seen a Flame or a Combustion run on an O2 more recently |
| 22:46.58 | mozrat | I didn't love it particulary |
| 22:47.15 | mozrat | but it was nice to walk around the studio and see people using UNIX desktops |
| 22:47.31 | stephanb2 | mozrat: well they may have an old licence of Wavefront running on those boxes |
| 22:47.34 | mozrat | z00dax: wouldn't surprise me if it was all on ebay |
| 22:48.02 | stephanb2 | however it's been a while since 3d apps have moved to x86 |
| 22:48.17 | mozrat | stephanb2: Wavefront doesn't sound familiar to me |
| 22:48.28 | mozrat | I can't remember the application they used to use now |
| 22:48.41 | mozrat | the more I learn the more old stuff I forget |
| 22:48.59 | stephanb2 | mozrat: in the days of Indy's there was Wavefront, Alias and Softimage |
| 22:49.04 | z00dax | mozrat, better stop learning soon |
| 22:49.09 | mozrat | z00dax: I know |
| 22:49.25 | stephanb2 | Wavefront and Alias merged, then got bought over by SGI itself |
| 22:49.35 | stephanb2 | out of all this came Maya |
| 22:50.08 | z00dax | i remember softimage |
| 22:50.43 | stephanb2 | In those days there wasnt any decent 3d package on pc except 3DS which was linked to Autocad |
| 22:50.58 | stephanb2 | good for engineers and architects but not used in film or broadcast |
| 22:51.52 | stephanb2 | I remember buying an Intergraph machine to run 3DS on Windows NT 4 |
| 22:52.01 | mozrat | http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2005-November/056520.html |
| 22:52.18 | stephanb2 | cheaper alternative to Alias Wavefront on SGI |
| 22:52.24 | mozrat | I wonder how Cope is getting on with his |
| 22:52.39 | mozrat | stephanb2: is pro-engineer a well know IRIX app? |
| 22:53.08 | stephanb2 | i've heard the name. but i don't know the app |
| 22:53.27 | mozrat | thats what they used to use it for |
| 22:53.30 | stephanb2 | i know Autocad and i've heard of CATIA |
| 22:54.04 | stephanb2 | well those machines were essentially geared towards OpenGL |
| 22:54.21 | mozrat | has anyone used the media player listengnome ? |
| 22:54.34 | stephanb2 | so anything fairly high end requiring OpenGL was available on SGIs |
| 22:54.39 | z00dax | mozrat, is that the french one ? |
| 22:54.46 | mozrat | yes |
| 22:54.55 | z00dax | there was a player that was taken apart yesterday for security holes |
| 22:54.59 | mozrat | the one causing a ripple on planet.gnome.org |
| 22:55.03 | z00dax | thats the one which does the wikipedia lookups etc ? |
| 22:55.09 | mozrat | z00dax: no - for copyright reasons AFAIK |
| 22:55.20 | stephanb2 | CAD/Engineering, Scientific data visualisation, and 3D CG |
| 22:55.45 | stephanb2 | the competitor to those SGI workstations was Intergraph |
| 22:55.49 | mozrat | the guy "forgot" to include some people in the CREDITS file but it seems to be a genuine mistake |
| 22:56.49 | z00dax | mozrat, i can swear that listengnome.free.fr was there yesterday! |
| 22:57.07 | z00dax | I saw a demo of a system being broken into via dns poison and listengnome doing its web data fetching |
| 22:57.12 | mozrat | z00dax: he took it down today in response to getting flamed |
| 22:57.23 | z00dax | i know some odd people, yes |
| 22:57.24 | z00dax | ah |
| 22:57.30 | mozrat | http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2006/02/09/oh-dear-lord |
| 22:59.33 | stephanb2 | mozrat: so what ru running on those SGIs then ? |
| 23:00.08 | mozrat | stephanb2: at the moment they are still running IRIX. I saved them from the scrapheap and I now have one under my desk |
| 23:00.15 | mozrat | so I need to do something with them.. |
| 23:00.26 | mozrat | I'll probably try and get Debian on it |
| 23:00.37 | mozrat | or *BSD |
| 23:00.50 | stephanb2 | mozrat: oic u don't run pro-engineer or something... |
| 23:00.50 | mozrat | there is a SGI port of Debian isn't there? |
| 23:01.12 | mozrat | stephanb2: no - I can't remember why but they migrated those applications onto Windows :( |
| 23:01.17 | mozrat | hence the spare hardware |
| 23:01.18 | z00dax | i've heard of a mips port of debian |
| 23:01.26 | z00dax | there might even be an ancient redhat/mips |
| 23:01.29 | stephanb2 | http://www.debian.org/ports/mips/ |
| 23:01.50 | mozrat | excellent |
| 23:01.55 | stephanb2 | http://www.cyrius.com/debian/o2/ |
| 23:02.05 | z00dax | mozrat, depending on power requirements - it might be cheper to buy a new machine, headless, with the basic stuff only - and run that for a year rather than pay electric bills for an O2 |
| 23:02.18 | mozrat | z00dax: it's only a little fellow |
| 23:02.36 | mozrat | http://www.lunar.com/portfolio/client_archive/sgi_o2.html |
| 23:03.12 | z00dax | mozrat, i had one of these for a few months at IISc |
| 23:03.44 | z00dax | a 350Mhz machine with 32 megs of ram or something like that |
| 23:04.52 | mozrat | z00dax: I'll get it running tomorrow |
| 23:04.55 | stephanb2 | mozrat: apart from SCSI and OpenGL, u may be better off with MicroATX + VIA C3 |
| 23:05.00 | z00dax | mozrat, yay! |
| 23:05.05 | stephanb2 | or any old Pentium III ? |
| 23:05.21 | mozrat | z00dax: (how was|when is) the date with that gril? |
| 23:05.41 | mozrat | stephanb2: I think there are probably lots of better hardware out there to use |
| 23:05.53 | mozrat | this is just quirky and most importantly under my desk :) |
| 23:06.44 | z00dax | mozrat, this saturday |
| 23:06.51 | mozrat | z00dax: cool |
| 23:09.57 | z00dax | mozrat, gave up on the movie, booked a table at a semi-nice eating place instead |
| 23:10.02 | wethrin | Mm. Beer. |
| 23:10.14 | mozrat | z00dax: sounds good.. good luck :-) |
| 23:17.49 | stephanb2 | bye everybody. time for bed |
| 23:17.53 | mozrat | nn |
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| 23:19.55 | Erwin | I'm doing a tour of Foliage (in Mandarin Oriental) & Wodka (Polish restaurant) myself :) |
| 23:28.51 | Blapto | Anyone here who knows anything about The Windmill pub? |
| 23:29.39 | z00dax | i bet there is more than i windmill around |
| 23:29.43 | z00dax | s/i/1 |
| 23:30.04 | Blapto | Yeah, but I mean the one that gllug guys go to a lot, just off Oxford Street |
| 23:30.16 | wethrin | hello bal |
| 23:30.19 | wethrin | *blapto |
| 23:30.23 | z00dax | wethrin, |
| 23:30.27 | Blapto | Hey wethrin |
| 23:30.33 | Blapto | How are you? |
| 23:30.36 | wethrin | I'm good |
| 23:30.41 | wethrin | I know where the Windmill is |
| 23:30.59 | Blapto | Finding it isn't an issue |
| 23:31.16 | Blapto | I was put on the spot earlier today to name a pub to meet at, and said "Windmill" without really thinking. |
| 23:31.18 | Blapto | I've been there |
| 23:31.19 | z00dax | wethrin, gotta postcode ? |
| 23:31.34 | Blapto | z00dax, it's on Mill Street, if that helps. |
| 23:31.49 | wethrin | z00dax: Not handily. Google, or RTFArchives :) |
| 23:31.51 | Blapto | But I don't remember if it's favourable for largish groups, about 15 people. |
| 23:31.57 | wethrin | Blapto: It'll be okay |
| 23:32.00 | wethrin | We manage to squeeze |
| 23:32.14 | Blapto | Are there nice largish tables and such? |
| 23:32.25 | wethrin | Yes. When can you get there? |
| 23:32.43 | Blapto | 1830 |
| 23:32.51 | Blapto | I could get there early to grab a table |
| 23:32.55 | Blapto | but we're meeting at 1830 |
| 23:33.05 | wethrin | No, 1800 |
| 23:33.15 | z00dax | I'll come for a drink too |
| 23:33.28 | wethrin | Yaay! |
| 23:33.41 | Blapto | Is there something arranged in advance |
| 23:33.48 | Blapto | or is this entirely impropmtu |
| 23:34.00 | wethrin | It's arranged in advance. There were 2 days notice! |
| 23:34.06 | Blapto | Hang on... |
| 23:34.10 | Blapto | I'm going on Saturday |
| 23:34.14 | Blapto | I think I forgot to say that |
| 23:34.48 | wethrin | Um. I'm there tomorrow |
| 23:35.03 | Blapto | ah, I'm flying tomorrow |
| 23:35.18 | wethrin | D'oh |
| 23:38.05 | Blapto | but yeah, table wise |
| 23:38.09 | Blapto | just turn up and sit on something? |
| 23:38.48 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 23:39.08 | George | moo |
| 23:39.22 | wethrin | oom |
| 23:40.35 | *** join/#gllug zimm (i=Ross@82-32-9-5.cable.ubr02.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:44.57 | mozrat | hello zimm |
| 23:45.10 | zimm | hi mozrat |
| 23:45.15 | zimm | hows things ? |
| 23:45.31 | mozrat | good thanks :-) |
| 23:45.40 | mozrat | writing some really bad python code |
| 23:45.45 | mozrat | but having moderate success |
| 23:46.00 | zimm | hehe |
| 23:46.33 | Blapto | at writing bad python code or good code |
| 23:46.54 | mozrat | Hmm |
| 23:47.02 | z00dax | i am having some rrdns issues with python at the moment |
| 23:47.09 | mozrat | I suspect a more seasoned Pythonister would scoff at the code but it works for me |
| 23:47.23 | mozrat | z00dax: I remember you saying that a few months ago |
| 23:48.02 | z00dax | mozrat, thought I had it fixed then.... its come back to haunt me in the last 2 days |
| 23:48.11 | mozrat | z00dax: ah right |
| 23:48.13 | z00dax | were talking Nov / Dec timeframe |
| 23:48.18 | mozrat | if I can help let me know |
| 23:48.32 | z00dax | mozrat, I might :) |
| 23:50.37 | zimm | anyone tried dual booting on a "media pc" laptop ? |
| 23:51.02 | mozrat | zimm: define a "media pc" laptop? |
| 23:51.43 | zimm | mozrat, microsoft/the establishment have done that.. |
| 23:51.59 | mozrat | heh - Windows Media edition? |
| 23:52.30 | zimm | its a toshiba qosmio, dvd and digital tv without booting ionto windows etc etc etc .. |
| 23:52.42 | zimm | yep xp media edition .. |
| 23:52.54 | mozrat | zimm: oh, I've not heard of that |
| 23:53.16 | mozrat | I guess it would be possible - all you would change on the Windows side is the bootloader |
| 23:53.37 | mozrat | when it loads into XP media edition it shouldn't know or care it is living alongside Linux |
| 23:54.14 | zimm | but the built in non-windows stuff is worrying me .. |
| 23:54.23 | Blapto | except it may be fussy about booting from the first partition or not |
| 23:54.28 | zimm | i cant even accessx the bios !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:55.20 | z00dax | i saw something similar on a MSI media barebones system |
| 23:55.35 | z00dax | it can play audio cd's and mp3's with the system shutdown, and still have a display output etc |
| 23:55.43 | zimm | aye |
| 23:55.43 | z00dax | zimm, is that what you are talking about ? |
| 23:55.54 | mozrat | according to Google the software the media player uses is Linux! |
| 23:55.58 | z00dax | the person i know who has this msi box, runs mythtv and linux on there |
| 23:56.22 | mozrat | http://laptopmag.com/features/qosimo.asp |
| 23:56.24 | rhowe | They calculate interest daily, not monthly |
| 23:56.27 | mozrat | search for the word Linux |
| 23:56.43 | zimm | funky.. |
| 23:57.44 | mozrat | #gllug nor it's patron condones the use of recreational drugs.. |
| 23:57.59 | mozrat | it's injecting smack into the genitals or nothing here |
| 23:58.15 | Blapto | hahaa |
| 23:58.34 | mozrat | yeah me too |
| 23:58.44 | zimm | roffl |
| 23:59.00 | Blapto | Too late here. |
