| 00:34.06 | wethrin | Hello |
| 00:44.38 | Leeds | foo |
| 00:44.41 | wethrin | bar |
| 00:45.20 | Leeds | morning |
| 00:47.08 | z00dax | hello |
| 00:49.00 | Leeds | z00dax: hello! |
| 00:50.00 | z00dax | hiya leeds |
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| 01:53.37 | LeedsHK | angelchild: hello |
| 01:53.43 | angelchild | hiya |
| 02:01.23 | LeedsHK | how's life? |
| 02:03.22 | LeedsHK | so, at 2am on Tuesday, there was a brief power cut in my building... my main PC, which I leave on all the time at the moment, rebooted... |
| 02:03.51 | LeedsHK | my router appears to have rebooted yesterday... |
| 02:04.06 | LeedsHK | my Mac mini, which is also on all the time, appears to have stayed up through the power outage... |
| 02:14.42 | JAV | hello |
| 02:15.53 | JAV | I'm trying to understand the way amazon.uk.co calculates VAT |
| 02:16.17 | Erwin | There's no VAT on books -- in UK |
| 02:16.50 | Erwin | Generally if shipping to a EU country, a company must charge the VAT of that country if it sells over 100,000 euro or so a year to it |
| 02:17.09 | JAV | I just saw it, I thought it was 17.5 |
| 02:17.28 | Erwin | If under, then you as a citizen have a duty to pay the VAT yourself -- that's why as a non-Brit you can buy some books cheap if using a sufficiently obscure shop, i.e. not amazon |
| 02:17.40 | Erwin | well, you would pay the Spanish (?) VAt |
| 02:18.06 | JAV | that's what amazon says.... |
| 02:18.21 | JAV | Items: £8.24 |
| 02:18.21 | JAV | Postage & Packing: £4.98 |
| 02:18.21 | JAV | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.21 | JAV | Total before VAT: £13.22 |
| 02:18.21 | JAV | VAT:£0.53 |
| 02:18.33 | JAV | Total: 13.75 |
| 02:18.45 | Erwin | The VAT is probably on p&p only |
| 02:19.09 | LeedsHK | what is VAT in Spain? |
| 02:19.10 | Erwin | Or maybe just the packaging part |
| 02:19.16 | JAV | 16% in spain |
| 02:19.45 | LeedsHK | so I see... |
| 02:20.16 | LeedsHK | IVA |
| 02:20.58 | JAV | yes |
| 02:21.04 | Erwin | http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/502578/ref%3Dcs_hd_lp_1/203-7462720-3790354 |
| 02:21.09 | Erwin | Claims Spain has 4% vat on books |
| 02:21.24 | LeedsHK | yup |
| 02:21.43 | LeedsHK | which would come to 0.53GBP including the P&P |
| 02:21.43 | Erwin | >>> print 13.22*.04 |
| 02:21.46 | Erwin | 0.5288 |
| 02:22.13 | LeedsHK | Erwin: you don't need the print in the interpreter :-) |
| 02:23.09 | JAV | ok, now I understand! It's 3:23 here |
| 02:23.27 | Erwin | It's 02:23 here, that's why. |
| 02:24.15 | JAV | I read that VAT table several times XD |
| 02:24.17 | LeedsHK | 1023 here... |
| 02:24.34 | LeedsHK | oh, and 0% VAT here too... |
| 02:25.14 | JAV | so 4% shipping too? |
| 02:26.35 | LeedsHK | I guess either it should be 16% for the shipping but they're being nice, or it's something like if the order only contains goods taxed at 4%, the shipping is also 4% |
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| 03:45.04 | Erwin | There seems to be some fire on the SE part of the Isle of Dogs, at least there's huge amounts of smoke coming out of there |
| 03:47.08 | LeedsHK | what *did* you do? |
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| 08:00.29 | LeedsHK | fucking access |
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| 08:19.27 | morsing | AIX rules! |
| 08:19.28 | LeedsHK | morsing: fucking access! |
| 08:19.37 | morsing | LeedsHK: Excuse me?! |
| 08:20.19 | SlammerXP | morning |
| 08:20.26 | LeedsHK | access! it sucks |
| 08:20.38 | LeedsHK | if you're going to use a local file-based database, use something sane like sqlite |
| 08:27.05 | mozrat | Good morning |
| 08:34.23 | LeedsHK | mozrat: is it? |
| 08:34.33 | mozrat | I should say so! |
| 08:37.42 | LeedsHK | great! |
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| 09:00.58 | morsing | XPSlammer! |
| 09:01.22 | XPSlammer | morning |
| 09:15.32 | morsing | How is it I shift in the first command line option? (Perl) |
| 09:26.16 | LeedsHK | bah, perl |
| 09:26.33 | XPSlammer | morsing: my $cmdvar1=$ARGV[0]; |
| 09:27.03 | XPSlammer | for more intelligent processing use the GetOpts module |
| 09:35.26 | XPSlammer | no, not at all, you're welcome |
| 09:39.36 | morsing | XPSlammer: my $input = shift; did the trick |
| 09:44.54 | XPSlammer | errm, that's not safe |
| 09:45.09 | morsing | XPSlammer: Don't care. Why's it not safe then? |
| 09:45.28 | XPSlammer | in the context of a subroutine, that would give you the first paramater passed to the sub |
| 09:46.17 | LeedsHK | yeah, sys.argv[0] is better |
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| 09:49.16 | mozrat | w00 kbsingh |
| 09:49.39 | kbsingh | hello! |
| 09:49.41 | kbsingh | mozrat, ! |
| 09:51.02 | morsing | kbsingh! |
| 09:51.05 | morsing | mozrat! |
| 09:51.16 | kbsingh | morsing! |
| 09:55.27 | mozrat | Now the introductions are over.... |
| 09:56.49 | LeedsHK | are they? |
| 09:56.58 | XPSlammer | mozrat! |
| 09:57.04 | XPSlammer | agk! |
| 09:57.04 | mozrat | XPSlammer! |
| 09:57.05 | XPSlammer | andrew! |
| 09:57.07 | LeedsHK | I don't see ranner being introduced |
| 09:57.09 | XPSlammer | boudiccas! |
| 09:57.13 | XPSlammer | Leeds! |
| 09:57.14 | XPSlammer | LeedsHK! |
| 09:57.29 | LeedsHK | ibot |
| 09:58.11 | XPSlammer | morsing: you've been at this for _days_ and still not managed to write Hello World in perl? |
| 09:59.02 | LeedsHK | that's Perl for you... |
| 10:00.43 | LeedsHK | http://www.torontoist.com/archives/2006/02/comedy_gold.php |
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| 10:01.37 | mozrat | stephanb2! |
| 10:01.53 | stephanb2 | mozrat: wolfgang amadeus! |
| 10:02.01 | mozrat | :) |
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| 10:03.02 | stephanb2 | btw i solved all my fc4 problems by removing an exotic firewire pci from my box :-) |
| 10:03.47 | stephanb2 | i thought doing rmmod of all the iee1394 modules would achieve the same result. but obviously it didnt |
| 10:06.52 | kbsingh | stephanb2, blacklist them ? |
| 10:08.25 | morsing | XPSlammer: Yes! |
| 10:08.26 | XPSlammer | i solve all fc4 problems by removing fc4 and using something that works and is supported properly instead. |
| 10:08.37 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: wdym blacklist ? add alias ieee1394 off to modules.conf ? |
| 10:08.59 | stephanb2 | XPSlammer: like OS/2 Warp ? |
| 10:09.09 | XPSlammer | stephanb2: close. |
| 10:11.04 | kbsingh | XPSlammer, windowsXP ? |
| 10:11.15 | XPSlammer | home edition, yes |
| 10:11.25 | kbsingh | humm... i should try my OS/2 media one of these days... |
| 10:11.35 | LeedsHK | XPSlammer: just use ubuntu - it just works |
| 10:11.58 | kbsingh | 'supported properly' and 'linux' in the same phrase pretty much narrows you down to either SuSe / Mandriva / RedHat |
| 10:12.18 | kbsingh | depending on who you speak to the 'supported properly' might not include 'properly' for them either |
| 10:13.08 | XPSlammer | kbsingh: errm, no, debian. |
| 10:13.19 | kbsingh | debian is supported ? |
| 10:13.24 | LeedsHK | by who? |
| 10:13.30 | kbsingh | progeny ? |
| 10:13.57 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: mandriva gave me a lot of irritation when it was called mandrake |
| 10:14.05 | XPSlammer | debian has been a community supported distro since day 1 |
| 10:14.13 | LeedsHK | stephanb2: there are creams for that sort of thing |
| 10:14.34 | XPSlammer | 10 years of continous support in exchange for no money |
| 10:14.38 | XPSlammer | I call that a pretty good deal |
| 10:14.43 | kbsingh | stephanb2, I've never really got onto the mandrake scene of things. but Connectiva had a good set of guys, and an ( imho ) excellent support setup |
| 10:14.56 | murb | what redhat + kde? |
| 10:14.57 | XPSlammer | over 15,000 officially supported packages, too. |
| 10:15.03 | kbsingh | unfortunately most of the good guys seem to have head off post-mandrake merger / takeover / whatever that was |
| 10:15.27 | stephanb2 | so <candid question> what is "wrong" with fedora ? |
| 10:15.39 | XPSlammer | it's unsupported clicky tosh |
| 10:15.47 | kbsingh | XPSlammer, new to linux ? |
| 10:16.00 | kbsingh | hrm |
| 10:16.03 | kbsingh | :) |
| 10:16.33 | kbsingh | stephanb2, once you've used it for a while - you come to the realisation that you run linux. the distro wars are just mostly fluff |
| 10:17.03 | kbsingh | use a few, settle in with whatever works for you ( in terms of file layout's - where the config's do - what the admin tools look like etc ) |
| 10:17.10 | SlayerXP | kbsingh: once you get to support a server room full of a few hundred production servers, you quickly realise why redhat's free offerings just don't cut the mustard |
| 10:17.12 | LeedsHK | hence my affection for slackware - it's the closest I've seen to 'bare' Linux |
| 10:17.20 | ranner | fedora is nice for a home machine if you use RHEL at work |
| 10:17.31 | kbsingh | SlayerXP, CentOS ? |
| 10:17.44 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: oh i agree with that 100%. that's why mandrake did my head in "why do thay put xxx in this yyy folder?" |
| 10:17.44 | SlayerXP | kbsingh: "unsupported clicky tosh" |
| 10:18.01 | SlayerXP | kbsingh: come back when it has 15,000 officially supported packages |
| 10:18.07 | kbsingh | SlayerXP, much better supported than debian is |
| 10:18.19 | kbsingh | the patch to market for security issues is more relaible and faster than debian is |
| 10:18.28 | SlayerXP | kbsingh: come back when it has 15,000 officially supported packages |
| 10:18.35 | kbsingh | plus, forcing upgrades to get security fix's in isnt really backend server room mindset |
| 10:18.42 | kbsingh | SlayerXP, thats bullshit |
| 10:18.47 | kbsingh | how many of the 15k do you use ? |
| 10:18.53 | SlayerXP | any of them I want to |
| 10:19.11 | kbsingh | I dont know a single 500 machine + install where there are more than a dozen real 'apps' in deployment - everthing around it is just OS layers |
| 10:19.12 | SlayerXP | knowing that none of them will break, and i'll always have a seamless upgrade path |
| 10:19.33 | kbsingh | anyway, rate of growth at this time says that gentoo is pretty much upto where most people want it to be |
| 10:19.46 | stephanb2 | SlayerXP: hold on dude, im not filling a server room. im filling a flat with "desktops". and doing pretty much with linux what M$ claims to do with it's "windoze media edition" |
| 10:19.52 | SlayerXP | kbsingh: if you think debian "forces upgrades", then you fundamentally misunderstand how debian works. |
| 10:20.07 | SlayerXP | stephanb2: so come back when you have some real world server room experience. |
| 10:20.17 | stephanb2 | except that with linux the tv card doesn't screw up dvd playback ;-) |
| 10:20.25 | kbsingh | SlayerXP, i dont see the xmlrpc php fix go into php-4.0.1 on debian - feel free to point it out to me |
| 10:21.01 | kbsingh | SlayerXP, i also done see 2.6.14+ libata sata drivers being ported back into 2.4 by anyone at debian |
| 10:21.03 | SlayerXP | kbsingh: bear with me a mo |
| 10:21.32 | LeedsHK | SlayerXP: get off your fucking high horse |
| 10:21.43 | kbsingh | s/done/dont |
| 10:22.39 | LeedsHK | 2 files containing exactly the same information: |
| 10:22.43 | LeedsHK | -rw-r--r-- 1 richardc users 233 2006-02-16 18:21 20060216.csv |
| 10:22.43 | LeedsHK | -rwxr-xr-x 1 richardc users 14336 2006-02-16 17:49 20060216.xls |
| 10:23.15 | kbsingh | wow. |
| 10:23.41 | kbsingh | LeedsHK, i wonder how large that would be in a xml'ish format |
| 10:23.50 | LeedsHK | bear with me... |
| 10:23.50 | ranner | sxc? |
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| 10:24.39 | LeedsHK | 8604 bytes as ods |
| 10:25.27 | SlammerXP | my Bob there are a lot of php exploits to go through... |
| 10:26.10 | morsing | Check it! |
| 10:26.49 | SlammerXP | if it's the one that's most obvious, then the fix was integrated into debian on august 29th, 2005 |
| 10:28.20 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: so, without starting a flaming distro conversation, how do i "blacklist" a device ? |
| 10:29.22 | kbsingh | mozrat, you should have email |
| 10:30.07 | mozrat | thanks :) |
| 10:30.33 | SlammerXP | gosh, I've been sent a zero day virus, i think |
| 10:31.30 | kbsingh | stephanb2, in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 10:31.57 | kbsingh | you should have a blacklist file - you can blacklist modules there, just make sure you get the entire dep tree for the module, otherwise a dep on something else might pull it in anyway |
| 10:32.48 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: ok. i imagine this can also b used to disable ipv6, or any "unwanted" module ? |
| 10:34.39 | SlammerXP | buy a Yukelali instead. |
| 10:34.48 | SlammerXP | "where's me washboard?!" |
| 10:34.51 | kbsingh | stephanb2, for ipv6 add these two lines to modprobe.conf : |
| 10:34.52 | LeedsHK | I can't play the Yukelali... |
| 10:34.59 | kbsingh | alias ipv6 off |
| 10:35.00 | stephanb2 | LeedsHK: for those barbecue evenings in the server room ? |
| 10:35.00 | mozrat | LeedsHK: electric or acoustic? |
| 10:35.01 | SlammerXP | can you play the guitar? |
| 10:35.07 | kbsingh | alias net-pf-10 off |
| 10:35.34 | kbsingh | I have no idea what a Yukelali is, wikipedia time! |
| 10:35.47 | LeedsHK | mozrat: classical/spanish |
| 10:35.48 | SlammerXP | i may be spelling it wrong, see also Geroge Formby |
| 10:35.52 | SlammerXP | George |
| 10:35.55 | mozrat | Leeds, excellent |
| 10:35.59 | LeedsHK | SlammerXP: doesn't he make grills? |
| 10:36.18 | SlammerXP | the other one |
| 10:36.45 | LeedsHK | I believe it starts with a U, anyway |
| 10:36.50 | SlammerXP | "Ukulele" |
| 10:37.44 | LeedsHK | I have played almost no guitar for years, but I was slightly decent at one point |
| 10:38.18 | LeedsHK | I suspect having an attractive, young, blonde female teacher helped in the early days... |
| 10:38.32 | SlammerXP | I am to guitars what redhat users are to server rooms |
| 10:38.36 | LeedsHK | hometime |
| 10:38.46 | kbsingh | heh |
| 10:48.53 | mozrat | kbsingh: Excellent photos :-) |
| 10:49.20 | kbsingh | mozrat, online yet ? |
| 10:49.34 | mozrat | Not yet.. :) |
| 10:51.28 | kbsingh | mozrat, you should get exif info as well in the pic's |
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| 11:04.01 | stephanb2 | btw did anybody go to this video editing thing on wednesday ? |
| 11:04.38 | rhowe | Do these screenshots look like crap to anyone else? http://support.citrix.com/kb/entry.jspa?entryID=9035&categoryID=685 |
| 11:05.11 | kbsingh | stephanb2, yes |
| 11:05.14 | SlammerXP | " You don't have permission to do the requested action. You need to login to the system before you can continue." |
| 11:05.16 | SlammerXP | yes, utter crap |
| 11:05.26 | kbsingh | stephanb2, mozrat + George + me ( that I knew ) and mikejw was there too |
| 11:06.00 | rhowe | SlammerXP: Ah.. |
| 11:06.56 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: so what's this thing? holiday filmmaker tool or a clone of Avid Xpress ? |
| 11:07.38 | kbsingh | stephanb2, none of the above. its an inprocess video clip + reprocess + refactor + add effects etc kind of tool |
| 11:08.13 | kbsingh | personally, if I was doing Video editing, LiVeS would be a 'tool' to go along with other stuff... |
| 11:08.20 | rhowe | SlammerXP: e.g. http://support.citrix.com/kb/html/images/CTX108542-1.gif |
| 11:08.47 | SlammerXP | that's a tad ugly, yes |
| 11:09.23 | rhowe | Don't forget -2 and -3 |
| 11:10.00 | stephanb2 | rhowe: if you captured that from the room next to the monitor, u could contact Qinetiq straight away |
| 11:10.34 | rhowe | SlammerXP: I'm glad we don't have software written by these guys open to the internet.. oh, wait... |
| 11:10.37 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: so it's a gui for transcode ? |
| 11:15.30 | kbsingh | stephanb2, humm... yes, maybe - but it has a lot of plugins and other work done to make things easier |
| 11:20.40 | kbsingh | go for it |
| 11:21.12 | Leeds | yeah, I think so |
| 11:27.24 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: can u actually do proper editing with a 2 monitors interface, trim mode, etc ? |
| 11:28.47 | kbsingh | stephanb2, he said that dual-head setup's is something he wants to work on for the 1.0 release. |
| 11:29.18 | kbsingh | depending on how you setup your display - you should be able to do editing on one, and preview on the other |
| 11:29.26 | kbsingh | its a small'ish install - why not try it out stephanb2 ? |
| 11:30.22 | mozrat | kbsingh: http://beerandspeech.org/index.php?/archives/19-Not-so-fanatical-after-all.html |
| 11:31.08 | stephanb2 | kbsingh: i will, and give them feedback. it seems less nonsense than cinerella |
| 11:31.26 | kbsingh | mozrat, hahahahaha good one :) |
| 11:31.32 | wethrin | Hehe |
| 11:32.10 | mozrat | kbsingh: give me all your listengnome goodness! |
| 11:32.29 | kbsingh | mozrat, @home, will upload somewhere and url you later today |
| 11:32.41 | mozrat | btw - that is ldnblk over Georges right shoulder |
| 11:32.46 | kbsingh | in the second pic, note mozrat giving iwconfig the middle finger :) |
| 11:32.51 | mozrat | kbsingh: cool ty |
| 11:33.09 | mozrat | yeah - that is a weird way of pointing at things - must stop doing that |
| 11:35.40 | mozrat | kbsingh: I asked Dean Wilson to add you to planet.gllug.org.uk this morning |
| 11:39.11 | kbsingh | morsing, cool - thanks :) |
| 11:39.57 | kbsingh | s/morsing/mozrat/ |
| 11:40.14 | morsing | ibot slap ibot |
| 11:40.15 | ibot | ACTION slaps ibot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 11:40.19 | mozrat | when did ibot start doing that.. it really sucks |
| 11:40.22 | mozrat | s/sucks/rocks |
| 11:40.26 | mozrat | s/sucks/rocks/ |
| 11:40.28 | mozrat | bah |
| 11:40.31 | mozrat | it rocks |
| 11:40.40 | kbsingh | :) |
| 11:57.06 | morsing | Does it?! |
| 11:58.24 | mozrat | I think so |
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| 12:45.50 | George | blargh |
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| 13:05.03 | LeedsTreo | I have a guitar, and I've stopped at an organic deli/cafe on the way home for a veggieburger... |
| 13:07.02 | LeedsTreo | their 'dhal of the day' is lentil |
| 13:07.35 | LeedsTreo | sorry, green lentil... |
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| 13:10.52 | LeedsTreo | boudiccas! |
| 13:11.21 | boudiccas | Leeds; :) |
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| 13:31.08 | Leeds | boudiccas: sorry about that |
| 13:31.37 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 13:34.21 | George | why has House got a bunsen on his desk? |
| 13:34.33 | Leeds | to show he's a science-type-person |
| 13:35.22 | George | hahaha |
| 13:35.42 | Leeds | now, let's see what this burger is like... |
| 13:48.54 | morsing | Check it! |
| 13:50.15 | mozrat | Good afternoon |
| 13:50.30 | mozrat | You bought the g-tar Leeds ? |
| 13:50.39 | mozrat | congratulatiosns |
| 13:50.58 | mozrat | hi George |
| 13:51.23 | Leeds | indeed :-) |
| 13:51.35 | Leeds | now, haven't played for years... |
| 13:53.42 | Leeds | seems I do remember a little... |
| 13:53.59 | George | HOUSE HIRED A HOOKER |
| 13:57.27 | George | mozrat: ping |
| 13:57.37 | mozrat | pong |
| 13:57.45 | George | mozrat: which blackberry do you have? |
| 13:57.49 | mozrat | George: a rugby player? |
| 13:57.55 | George | mozrat: woot |
| 13:58.17 | George | oh well, I'm going to watch Reginald Perrin |
| 13:58.30 | mozrat | Blackberry 7230 |
| 13:58.37 | George | mozrat: ok |
| 13:58.47 | mozrat | there are loads of better ones |
| 13:58.55 | George | lol |
| 13:59.08 | mozrat | George - seen my blog today? |
| 13:59.13 | George | no |
| 13:59.42 | George | esteemed? |
| 14:00.32 | George | mozrat: hrmm, how do you want to die today? |
| 14:01.18 | mozrat | George: I quite fancy the old "strapped to a metal table with a lazer beam slowly threatening to cut me in half starting with my bollocks" James Bond thing |
| 14:01.28 | George | laser |
| 14:01.35 | mozrat | Do you posses such a laser? |
| 14:01.39 | mozrat | possess |
| 14:01.40 | George | no |
| 14:01.53 | mozrat | shame |
| 14:02.35 | morsing | `date '+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S'` [$$] - *** Finished Security Audit *** |
| 14:09.08 | George | 14:09:23 -!- George was kicked from #kde-devel by ivor [for using gnome. ever.] |
| 14:09.19 | mozrat | YES! |
| 14:09.21 | mozrat | excellent |
| 14:09.29 | George | shut up mozrat |
| 14:09.40 | mozrat | why did you show him then?? hahahaha |
| 14:10.06 | kbsingh | result! |
| 14:10.18 | George | DIE |
| 14:11.56 | JAV | Leeds: gtkguitune - Guitar and other instruments tuner |
| 14:12.08 | mozrat | hey JAV |
| 14:12.23 | morsing | mozrat: You have a blackberry?! |
| 14:12.32 | mozrat | morsing: yeah - you've seen it??? |
| 14:12.33 | morsing | mozrat: Is it nearly broken yet? |
| 14:12.40 | George | no, he has a raspberry |
| 14:12.43 | mozrat | it is a social disease |
| 14:12.47 | mozrat | crackberry |
| 14:12.55 | kbsingh | all these berries reminds me of something sorta funny. |
| 14:13.13 | kbsingh | while in the US - a mexican friend used to call me CranBerry Sauce |
| 14:13.18 | kbsingh | it kinda rhymed with my name |
| 14:13.24 | George | SAUSAGEBERRYTREE |
| 14:13.32 | kbsingh | we never did go out for a second date |
| 14:13.44 | mozrat | # WPP’s Sir Martin Sorrell wins CrackBerry addict of the year. He is rarely seen without the device, ensuring he is always available to respond to messages. |
| 14:13.51 | mozrat | He is the big boss here |
| 14:13.55 | George | I got lost last night after leaving the pub |
| 14:14.00 | George | I ended up at oxford circus... |
| 14:14.03 | mozrat | and he won that "award" |
| 14:14.33 | Leeds | the question is will firefox 1.5.0.1 finish compiling before 1.5 eats all the RAM on my system |
| 14:18.27 | mozrat | George: how did you get lost? |
| 14:18.33 | mozrat | where were you trying to get to? |
| 14:18.57 | mozrat | You didn't turn right down Cleveland Street again did you??? |
| 14:19.00 | Leeds | George: what on earth were you doing in the pub, and where you drunk? |
| 14:19.07 | Leeds | s/where/were |
| 14:19.17 | George | mozrat: warren street |
| 14:19.29 | George | Leeds: only a pint of ice and a couple of drops of lemonade |
| 14:19.42 | Leeds | I beg your pardon? |
| 14:19.44 | mozrat | Yes - that lemonade was a ripoff |
| 14:19.51 | mozrat | Leeds, he is being literal |
| 14:20.19 | Leeds | mozrat: is he tactfully trying to suggest that maybe there was more ice than strictly necessary in his lemonade? |
| 14:21.13 | mozrat | leeds, he is and there was |
| 14:21.20 | mozrat | a whole pint of ice |
| 14:22.00 | Leeds | well, I remember one melody, at least |
| 14:22.31 | Leeds | the tips of my fingers are far too soft |
| 14:22.32 | George | Leeds: there was certainly more ice than lemonade |
| 14:24.28 | George | and mozrat's weird |
| 14:25.46 | mozrat | weird |
| 14:25.52 | George | hah |
| 14:28.38 | Leeds | so, the next two goals are to get hold of some music, and re-learn how to read it |
| 14:28.54 | George | and to acquire a sausage tree! |
| 14:30.13 | Leeds | no, I have no desire for a sausage tree... I already have lucky bamboo |
| 14:32.24 | mozrat | George - and you call me weird? |
| 14:32.48 | George | mozrat: yes |
| 14:33.00 | mozrat | oh |
| 14:33.29 | George | "muffin" is such an amusing word |
| 14:33.39 | George | there is something intrinsically funny about the word "muffin" |
| 14:33.43 | mozrat | "cheesecakes" is funnier |
| 14:33.48 | George | nah |
| 14:34.12 | George | kbsingh: what do your ATI patches do, btw? |
| 14:34.24 | kbsingh | George, make them work |
| 14:34.33 | morsing | How does ksh concatenate strings? |
| 14:34.49 | morsing | If I have $MACHINE and $REF and want to do |
| 14:34.50 | kbsingh | basically, fool the xorg ver detection bit's to make it think its running a 6.9.x |
| 14:34.54 | morsing | $MACHINE_$REF |
| 14:35.00 | morsing | It doesn't work |
| 14:35.05 | Leeds | kbsingh: this is for the binary drivers? |
| 14:35.08 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 14:35.09 | George | kbsingh: hrmm |
| 14:35.13 | Leeds | morsing! |
| 14:35.15 | George | kbsingh: well it works fine here without any modifications |
| 14:35.23 | George | kbsingh: oh, I think I may have applied some Gentoo patches though |
| 14:35.50 | kbsingh | Leeds, well kind of - the thl and the livna.org guys work is what i built on |
| 14:36.01 | kbsingh | George, yeah - i think its those gentoo patches that make it so slow |
| 14:36.13 | George | kbsingh: well, I am running in a higher res than you |
| 14:36.19 | George | kbsingh: and my laptop doesn't suck. :P |
| 14:37.00 | kbsingh | higher res ? |
| 14:37.10 | kbsingh | that would not make it 1/5th the speed would it ? |
| 14:37.16 | kbsingh | i am running at 1680x1050 |
| 14:37.21 | George | heh |
| 14:37.23 | George | I dunno! |
| 14:37.31 | kbsingh | George, my laptop sucks. and ooooooooooohhhhhh baby i like it! |
| 14:37.49 | George | ewwwww |
| 14:37.52 | kbsingh | hahahaha |
| 14:38.03 | George | I prefer my laptop |
| 14:38.14 | kbsingh | btw, so everyone knows - George + KDE + IBM gets 1700fps in glxgears |
| 14:38.30 | kbsingh | I get more like 8600 - 8700 with Gnome |
| 14:38.45 | George | 10528 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2105.487 FPS |
| 14:38.46 | George | liar |
| 14:38.50 | kbsingh | not that Wm has anything to do with it.. but never miss a chance at taking a swipe at George |
| 14:39.14 | kbsingh | George, yeah - but you need to run it when its 'VISIBLE', minimising the window is considered naughty |
| 14:39.34 | George | 43839 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8767.698 FPS |
| 14:40.03 | kbsingh | 58968 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11793.600 FPS |
| 14:40.07 | George | you suck |
| 14:40.12 | George | oh wait |
| 14:40.15 | George | you're on amd64 aren't you? |
| 14:40.26 | kbsingh | *cough* yes *cough* |
| 14:40.32 | George | 64-bit has much faster 3d rendering |
| 14:40.39 | morsing | Check it! |
| 14:40.42 | kbsingh | does that I mean I win win ? |
| 14:40.54 | George | kbsingh: no, it means you have a disgusting ugly red computer |
| 14:41.01 | George | and I have a lovely black box |
| 14:41.11 | George | which has a stupidly high res, and stupidly small fonts |
| 14:41.29 | kbsingh | its actually mostly black, with a few red bits to make it look nicer, and it has a nice soft galvanised rubber finish, and a titanium frame |
| 14:41.41 | George | I prefer mine |
| 14:42.09 | George | mr clevo |
| 14:42.25 | kbsingh | that laptop was actually faster than this one |
| 14:42.41 | George | it was not a laptop. |
| 14:43.04 | kbsingh | it was a portable workstation |
| 14:43.15 | kbsingh | and that qusimo that you were playing with - had 2 sata hdd's as well |
| 14:43.32 | mozrat | George - you can play with my Thinkpad tablet when I get oen |
| 14:43.33 | mozrat | one |
| 14:44.08 | kbsingh | I want one too |
| 14:44.12 | George | mozrat: I'm going to buy one soonish |
| 14:44.21 | kbsingh | just need to find someone else to pay for it though |
| 14:44.30 | George | loser |
| 14:44.31 | George | :P |
| 14:44.31 | kbsingh | George, m birthday is not far... |
| 14:44.46 | George | harharhar |
| 14:44.52 | George | I'm skint |
| 14:44.59 | George | anyway, LUNC! |
| 14:45.05 | George | with an H! |
| 14:46.53 | *** join/#gllug Blapto (n=Martin@brookscity.plus.com) |
| 14:47.31 | morsing | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0271219/ |
| 14:47.41 | George | mozrat: what did you think of ldnblk's laptop? |
| 14:47.47 | George | if, indeed, it could be called a laptop |
| 14:48.09 | mozrat | it was about the size of my car |
| 14:48.14 | George | hah |
| 14:48.21 | George | it was HUGE |
| 14:48.28 | George | didn't much like the glossy plastic coating though |
| 14:48.35 | Leeds | up to 3 and a bit tunes... |
| 14:49.05 | George | Leeds: /nick iTunes |
| 14:49.48 | Leeds | evening Blapto |
| 14:56.36 | George | Leeds: quick question, do you know what Cope's degree is in? |
| 14:56.51 | Leeds | George: yes, I do |
| 14:57.02 | George | good :P |
| 14:57.17 | George | anyway |
| 14:58.31 | George | hah |
| 15:01.02 | Leeds | I do find it quite amazing that, having not picked up a guitar in years, I can still remember anything |
| 15:01.54 | morsing | Mmm... tadpole |
| 15:02.02 | George | sparcbook! |
| 15:04.08 | mozrat | kbsingh: Woo - check planet.gllug.org.uk |
| 15:04.28 | George | hrmm |
| 15:04.41 | George | three weeks today I get my A level module results |
| 15:05.34 | George | mozrat: I'm listening to the not-so-dylexic composer |
| 15:06.59 | kbsingh | mozrat, :) |
| 15:08.03 | George | z00dax for teh suck! |
| 15:08.27 | kbsingh | George, z00dax gonna get mad ait u |
| 15:09.14 | George | har |
| 15:24.15 | Leeds | okay, I remember yesterday as well |
| 15:25.42 | kbsingh | Leeds, is that not a normal occurance ? |
| 15:26.33 | Leeds | kbsingh: how to play the melody to the song Yesterday on the guitar :-) |
| 15:26.47 | kbsingh | ah! |
| 15:26.56 | Leeds | 'All my troubles seemed so far away..." |
| 15:27.08 | kbsingh | I thought you were going slow on the alcohol today ( hence you remembered more stuff from history ) |
| 15:27.50 | Leeds | no drinking today, just walking and music |
| 15:37.39 | Leeds | George: were you asking if I knew what Cope's degree was, or were you asking me to tell you what it was? |
| 15:38.45 | mozrat | George ==> * George accuses mozrat of being a BT engineer <== hahahaha |
| 15:39.32 | Leeds | ah well, feels like an early night... |
| 15:41.35 | Blapto | Leeds, I'll start playing it on the harp if you want |
| 15:42.11 | Leeds | Blapto: you're welcome to - but I won't hear it from here... |
| 15:42.33 | Blapto | I can play quite loud |
| 15:42.46 | George | Leeds: I know what it is |
| 15:43.11 | Blapto | wethrin about? |
| 15:44.49 | Leeds | George: then why did you ask me? |
| 15:45.27 | George | Leeds: because mozrat didn't know |
| 15:45.39 | morsing | ping Blapto |
| 15:47.11 | Leeds | does mozrat know now? |
| 15:47.36 | George | yeah |
| 15:47.49 | George | we were talking about cope last night :) |
| 15:47.51 | Leeds | and how does mozrat feel about this? |
| 15:47.59 | George | dunno |
| 15:48.04 | George | ask him :) |
| 15:48.11 | George | we were talking about universities, and cope |
| 15:48.13 | George | not sure why |
| 15:48.14 | George | lol |
| 15:48.29 | Leeds | I am trying to ask mozrat without being too direct |
| 15:48.36 | George | kbsingh said it explained Cope's weird apps of choice :) |
| 15:49.02 | Leeds | heh |
| 15:51.37 | Blapto | Hey morsing |
| 15:52.57 | George | is that the voyage of the dawn treader? |
| 15:53.08 | Leeds | sorry, pre-penultimate |
| 15:53.14 | Leeds | horse and his boy |
| 15:53.19 | George | oh |
| 15:53.20 | George | ok |
| 15:53.22 | mozrat | Sorry - was away |
| 15:53.47 | gregj | anyone here with expierence on symbian development ? |
| 15:53.52 | mozrat | I wasn't surprised being an uneducated oaf who didn't go to uni - you all seem to have done some strange degrees |
| 15:54.00 | mozrat | and besides Cope is a darling anyway |
| 15:55.00 | George | haha |
| 15:55.25 | Leeds | what's stange about computer science? |
| 15:55.35 | Leeds | strange |
| 15:55.37 | Blapto | Leeds, silly question. |
| 15:55.42 | George | Leeds: I was wrong, Voyage of the Dawn treader is the 3rd last book |
| 15:55.50 | George | Leeds: horse and his boy is the third book |
| 15:56.44 | Blapto | http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=zLElfJ9YCh0 (SFW) you've all seen this, yes? |
| 15:58.05 | Leeds | George: there are two different chronologies |
| 16:00.30 | George | Leeds: yes, the publication chronologies, and the REAL chronologies :P |
| 16:00.38 | George | s/chronologies/chronology/ |
| 16:00.45 | George | SHUT UP IBOT |
| 16:04.20 | morsing | Blapto: If I have $machine and $func and want $somevar=$machine_$func |
| 16:04.26 | morsing | How to do that? |
| 16:04.45 | morsing | It complains that $machine_ doesn't exist |
| 16:04.54 | Blapto | Why do you expect me to know? |
| 16:05.36 | morsing | Well, how to do it?! |
| 16:05.40 | Blapto | I don't know! |
| 16:05.46 | Blapto | I'm no programmer... |
| 16:06.06 | Erwin | morsing: "${machine}_${func}" |
| 16:06.14 | morsing | Erwin: It's Perl |
| 16:06.16 | kbsingh | George, is there really someone called 'woo' in your class - or is that 'woo' = george ? |
| 16:06.19 | Erwin | morsing: I know. |
| 16:06.26 | Blapto | Hmm, I might grab my perl book. |
| 16:06.30 | Blapto | If I can find it. |
| 16:06.46 | George | kbsingh: Sang Woo Han |
| 16:06.56 | George | or rather, Sang-Woo Han |
| 16:06.59 | George | and yes, he does exist |
| 16:07.03 | morsing | Bareword found where operator expected at ./time.pl line 18, near "${machine}_" |
| 16:07.29 | Leeds | $machine+"_"+$func |
| 16:07.29 | Erwin | What exactly is your line? |
| 16:08.01 | Leeds | morsing: use a friendly language, not Perl |
| 16:08.22 | Erwin | $ perl -w -e 'use strict; my $foobar = 42; print "${foobar}_xx\n"' |
| 16:08.22 | Erwin | 42_xx |
| 16:09.09 | morsing | Leeds: Thanks, that works |
| 16:09.21 | morsing | Erwin: That doesn't work however |
| 16:09.24 | Leeds | oh lord... I'm on the 3rd floor of this building... they've been working on the street outside, and they've left some metal sheets over a hole in the road, and it makes a noise whenever a car drives over it :-( |
| 16:09.30 | morsing | Erwin: Thanks for trying though |
| 16:09.42 | Erwin | morsing: How doesn't it work? as you can see, it works fine for me. |
| 16:12.14 | Blapto | Leeds, steal them! |
| 16:14.48 | Leeds | Blapto: going to shoot a friend in the face? |
| 16:15.51 | Erwin | Clinton did that too, are they going to impeach Cheney? |
| 16:17.07 | Leeds | "2 game wardens, 7 hunters, and a cow" |
| 16:17.11 | Leeds | zzzz |
| 16:17.21 | JAV | Erwin: :) |
| 16:31.05 | Leeds | riight, all I've got left now is creation and judgement day |
| 16:32.39 | Cope | rhowe: ping |
| 16:33.33 | George | woo, it's Cope |
| 16:33.37 | George | we were talking about you, Cope |
| 16:33.51 | Cope | that's nice |
| 16:33.55 | George | :D |
| 16:34.30 | George | Cope: me, mozrat, z00dax |
| 16:34.41 | Cope | George: a fine triumvirate |
| 16:34.46 | George | lol |
| 16:38.33 | Cope | grr @ rhowe |
| 16:40.20 | George | Cope: is it true that your web browser of choice is lynx (or some homonym of)? |
| 16:40.47 | Cope | used to be elinks |
| 16:40.51 | Cope | these days I like w3m |
| 16:40.56 | George | what is it now? |
| 16:41.00 | Cope | w3m |
| 16:41.07 | George | heh |
| 16:41.10 | Erwin | I abandoned Mozilla/Firefox for Opera. No more 3 crashes a day. |
| 16:41.23 | George | lovely little konqi |
| 16:41.26 | George | mmmm |
| 16:41.26 | George | konqi! |
| 16:41.47 | Cope | unless i need pictures, in which case I use firefox; although there is now a very good keyboard-driven firefox clone that fits my approach |
| 16:42.11 | Cope | Erwin: haven't used opera for ages - I used to like it very muc |
| 16:42.12 | wethrin | Blapto: ping |
| 16:42.13 | Cope | h |
| 16:42.25 | George | Cope: KONQUEROR!!!!!!!! |
| 16:43.02 | mozrat | Cope!! |
| 16:43.08 | George | mozrat!!! |
| 16:43.09 | Cope | George: on the occasions I've used kde (eg vanilla suse install or knoppix) I've very rapidly found konqueror to be annoying and slow |
| 16:43.17 | mozrat | did you fix your weirdness last night? |
| 16:43.21 | mozrat | George: :D |
| 16:43.21 | Cope | mozrat: no :( |
| 16:43.26 | Cope | mozrat: got too tired |
| 16:43.29 | George | Cope: that's because most distros have a stupidly slow KDE |
| 16:43.33 | Cope | and had no one to talk to |
| 16:43.34 | George | Cope: use my machine. it's REALLY fast :D |
| 16:43.37 | Cope | George: yes, probably right |
| 16:44.01 | George | Cope: my Konqueror is absolutely instant even when my CPU is running at 800MHz |
| 16:44.30 | Cope | jolly good |
| 16:44.36 | Cope | what does it do that firefox can't? |
| 16:44.51 | Cope | and I don't count kde integration |
| 16:45.00 | Cope | given that I don't use kde and never will |
| 16:45.06 | George | Cope: lots |
| 16:45.15 | wethrin | All web browsers suck |
| 16:45.16 | George | Cope: it's faster than firefox for a start :P |
| 16:45.23 | George | wethrin: the web sucks. IRC > *! |
| 16:45.26 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:45.48 | Cope | George: that's not a very scientific statement. How was it measured? On what systems? Using what benchmarks? |
| 16:45.50 | George | Cope: kparts means it read pretty much anything |
| 16:45.57 | George | KMozilla means it can use the Gecko rendering engine |
| 16:46.20 | George | Cope: Konqueror takes about half a second to coldstart on my laptop |
| 16:46.25 | George | Cope: firefox takes 10 seconds |
| 16:46.30 | George | Cope: same with my athlon64 |
| 16:46.34 | morsing | Check it! |
| 16:46.51 | George | I run KDE though, it may affect stuff :P |
| 16:49.06 | Cope | lol |
| 16:49.23 | George | KDE for the win! |
| 16:49.26 | George | GNOME SUCKS! |
| 16:49.36 | wethrin | We have pictures that prove otherwise |
| 16:49.39 | George | have to say that to combat the LIBEL which mozrat has been spreading |
| 16:49.57 | George | death to non-KDE fanatics! |
| 16:50.34 | Cope | lol |
| 16:50.34 | mozrat | Cope |
| 16:50.38 | Cope | mozrat: yes? |
| 16:50.51 | George | Cope just can't cope with Konqueror |
| 16:50.55 | mozrat | it returns Content-Type: text/plain on the first one |
| 16:50.57 | George | (hohohoho) |
| 16:51.03 | Cope | mozrat: indeed, i changed it |
| 16:51.07 | mozrat | the second URL you gave returns Content-Type: text/html |
| 16:51.17 | mozrat | oh |
| 16:51.19 | Cope | mozrat: which is which? |
| 16:51.21 | mozrat | you changed it after |
| 16:51.22 | mozrat | ? |
| 16:51.27 | Cope | mozrat: which is www2? |
| 16:51.32 | mozrat | http://www2.aegon.com/annual_report/2003/index.shtml << text/plain |
| 16:51.41 | Cope | right... |
| 16:51.45 | mozrat | http://www.aegon.com/annual_report/2003/index.shtml << text/html |
| 16:51.46 | George | Cope: why weren't you at the thingy last night, btw? |
| 16:51.56 | mozrat | so it must be the MIME handler |
| 16:52.12 | wethrin | Different Apache configurations? |
| 16:52.16 | Cope | wethrin: yes |
| 16:52.20 | George | mozrat: are you going to join the wmin compsoc? |
| 16:52.23 | wethrin | Cope: ? |
| 16:52.24 | Cope | wethrin: but I don't admin the www one |
| 16:52.27 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 16:52.31 | wethrin | d'oh |
| 16:52.35 | mozrat | George: I much prefer weekday evening events |
| 16:52.35 | Cope | wethrin: and the www one works |
| 16:52.38 | wethrin | I thought mozrat was asking the question |
| 16:52.44 | mozrat | so if that is what they do then yes |
| 16:52.45 | George | mozrat: yeah, but then we get internet! |
| 16:52.51 | wethrin | Have you added the handler for .shtml? |
| 16:53.06 | George | MIME is evil |
| 16:53.09 | Cope | while on an akamai call |
| 16:54.27 | George | it was a very cool app |
| 16:54.31 | mozrat | George: it was |
| 16:54.33 | George | even if the UI was a bit of a bitch |
| 16:54.43 | kbsingh | does someone want to record the Brit Awards tonite ? and .torrent them over ? |
| 16:54.52 | George | wtf is "scanelf"? |
| 16:55.04 | George | kbsingh: only if you stop spelling "tonight" as "tonite" :) |
| 16:55.24 | kbsingh | George, thats an extra keystroke |
| 16:55.34 | George | kbsingh: there we go, I've installed newer ATI drivers than you |
| 16:55.37 | morsing | kbsingh: Check it! |
| 16:56.08 | Cope | DefaultType text/plain |
| 16:56.15 | kbsingh | George, i bet its still slower |
| 16:56.16 | morsing | Restarting smokeping: ### fping seems to report in 1 milliseconds |
| 16:56.21 | Cope | is the only time tex/plain appears |
| 16:57.11 | Cope | AddType text/html shtml |
| 16:57.11 | Cope | AddHandler server-parsed shtm |
| 16:57.14 | Cope | is present |
| 16:57.25 | mozrat | should there be a . in there? |
| 16:57.50 | kbsingh | hey Cope |
| 16:57.56 | Cope | which is in the <Directory "/local/apache/content/default"> container |
| 16:57.57 | mozrat | /etc/apache2/mod_mime-defaults.conf:#AddType text/html .shtml |
| 16:58.11 | Cope | mozrat: hmm |
| 16:58.51 | Cope | ok try now |
| 16:59.28 | mozrat | same thing |
| 16:59.32 | mozrat | let me start ethereal again |
| 16:59.33 | George | 10730 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2145.867 FPS |
| 16:59.36 | George | slight improvement :) |
| 17:00.09 | George | my card is apparently a "MOBILITY FireGL V3200 Pentium 4 (SSE2) (FireGL) |
| 17:00.57 | kbsingh | what do you get from fgl_glxgears |
| 17:01.14 | George | kbsingh: don't have it |
| 17:01.35 | mozrat | still text/plain Cope |
| 17:01.59 | Cope | mozrat: that's the defaulttype |
| 17:02.03 | mozrat | Cope - you don't have conflicting directives somewhere do you? |
| 17:02.04 | Cope | isn't that normal? |
| 17:02.14 | mozrat | default type is text/plain on mine yeah |
| 17:03.34 | Cope | right - gotta go; hopeuflly can triubleshoot later tonight |
| 17:04.13 | George | which, incidentally, is a fantastic game :) |
| 17:04.19 | mozrat | bye cope |
| 17:04.29 | George | cya Cope |
| 17:05.12 | George | kbsingh: installing fgl_glxgears |
| 17:05.22 | George | kbsingh: just to prove that I'm leeter than you! |
| 17:05.52 | George | 459 frames in 5.0 seconds = 91.800 FPS |
| 17:05.54 | George | that is NOT typical :D |
| 17:07.22 | George | Mem: 2073300 2001804 71496 0 10020 1716384 |
| 17:07.23 | George | argh |
| 17:07.32 | George | oh, ok, 1.7GB is cached |
| 17:07.33 | George | phew |
| 17:10.01 | kbsingh | George, I usually get 850 - 870 on fgl_glxgears |
| 17:10.51 | George | 2567 frames in 5.0 seconds = 513.400 FPS |
| 17:11.17 | George | 5473 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1094.600 FPS |
| 17:11.19 | George | hah! |
| 17:11.58 | George | 12835 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2567.000 FPS |
| 17:12.01 | George | that's the highest I can get it |
| 17:13.37 | mozrat | me goes away - catch you later all |
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| 17:51.04 | Marios_ | hello |
| 18:31.35 | Blapto | Hi |
| 18:47.28 | JAV | http://barcelona.cnt.es/pccity/IMG/ATT389291.gif (SFW) |
| 18:48.05 | Blapto | Paco? |
| 18:49.36 | rhowe | Paco? |
| 18:50.25 | JAV | a spanish common name |
| 18:50.49 | Blapto | ok |
| 18:51.32 | Blapto | Lo rhowe |
| 18:51.48 | Blapto | Does anybody fancy a swift drink Saturday |
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| 18:54.50 | wethrin | Mmm. Booze. |
| 18:54.50 | wethrin | Blapto: You pung me earlier? |
| 18:56.25 | rhowe | Blapto: Hm, can't afford it this month or next :P |
| 18:58.45 | wethrin | rhowe: Wimp :-P |
| 19:00.04 | Blapto | wethrin, Hi |
| 19:00.12 | Blapto | Just got back from CERN! |
| 19:00.14 | Blapto | Well |
| 19:00.17 | Blapto | got back yesterday |
| 19:00.21 | wethrin | How was it? |
| 19:00.48 | Blapto | gooood |
| 19:01.50 | wethrin | Played with any of their big colliders? |
| 19:02.34 | Blapto | Played with a little one |
| 19:02.49 | wethrin | Showed them little atoms what's what, eh |
| 19:02.55 | Blapto | The big one is being tooled until next year for some hot proton on proton action. |
| 19:03.08 | Blapto | Made some antimatter out of banging little things together |
| 19:03.13 | wethrin | nice |
| 19:03.21 | wethrin | Collect it in sample chambers :) |
| 19:03.28 | Blapto | Errr. |
| 19:03.31 | Blapto | Collect antimater? |
| 19:03.39 | Blapto | What do you propose I keep it in/ |
| 19:03.46 | wethrin | George :) |
| 19:04.08 | wethrin | Alternatively giant magnetic fields if it's charged |
| 19:04.22 | Blapto | Yes, but you'd also need to cool it to 0K |
| 19:04.30 | Blapto | Otherwise it would drift. |
| 19:04.38 | Blapto | Or keep it in a perfect vacuum, that would work. |
| 19:05.09 | wethrin | Meh. Vacuums suck |
| 19:05.36 | George | wethrin: ? |
| 19:06.06 | wethrin | You suck. Therefore you must be a moral vacuum |
| 19:06.17 | George | you're an idiot |
| 19:06.28 | wethrin | oi |
| 19:11.21 | Blapto | So yeah, you in london Dan? |
| 19:12.01 | wethrin | Nope. I'm in Durham |
| 19:12.08 | Blapto | Bah |
| 19:12.12 | wethrin | sorry |
| 19:12.20 | Blapto | I'm going to a party Saturday night |
| 19:12.24 | wethrin | woot? |
| 19:12.25 | Blapto | and I ought to turn up drunk |
| 19:13.18 | wethrin | Half a bottle of rum ought to do the trick |
| 19:14.06 | Blapto | Heh |
| 19:14.09 | Blapto | In CERN |
| 19:14.11 | Blapto | got a little drunk |
| 19:14.27 | Blapto | 2/3 nights there |
| 19:14.57 | Blapto | Anyway, last night, I bought a bottle of whisky |
| 19:15.12 | Blapto | and it was only me drinking it without mixers. |
| 19:15.19 | Blapto | Teacher comes into room. |
| 19:15.27 | rhowe | Yeah baby! |
| 19:15.31 | rhowe | Thankyou Virgin Money |
| 19:15.33 | Blapto | *sniff* *sniff* "What you drinking lads?" |
| 19:15.59 | Blapto | Looks around, sees glasses full of coke "I hope that's just coke, yeah." |
| 19:16.09 | Blapto | Looks at me "But what's that?" |
| 19:16.22 | rhowe | "Your current balance is six pounds, thirty nine pence. Credit" |
| 19:16.23 | Blapto | I down what equates to about 6 measures in my glass |
| 19:16.28 | rhowe | Thankyou Virgin Money :D |
| 19:16.34 | Blapto | (wheezing) "Apple juice... Sir" |
| 19:16.42 | Blapto | He just turned around and walked out :D |
| 19:16.50 | Blapto | rhowe, you got a loan to... pay off your loan? |
| 19:18.09 | rhowe | Blapto: Yeah, a 0% for 6 months loan |
| 19:18.09 | Blapto | Or have I missed half the story? |
| 19:18.15 | rhowe | er, 9 months |
| 19:18.26 | rhowe | Blapto: After which time I'll have saved the money to pay it off |
| 19:18.33 | Blapto | You keep telling yourself that ;) |
| 19:18.43 | rhowe | Blapto: I've already set up the standing order :) |
| 19:19.09 | Blapto | :D |
| 19:20.00 | wethrin | Surely the teacher should know what whisky is... |
| 19:20.07 | wethrin | And how it smells |
| 19:20.20 | Blapto | Yeah |
| 19:20.23 | Blapto | He didn't actually care. |
| 19:20.25 | wethrin | heh |
| 19:20.27 | Blapto | Just wanted a laugh. |
| 19:20.39 | wethrin | They normally don't, on trips |
| 19:20.48 | wethrin | Was it nice whisky? |
| 19:20.54 | Blapto | there was an empty bottle of vodka on the table, someone was trying to climb out of a window, and there were two empty bottles of wine in the sink. |
| 19:21.02 | Blapto | It was rough, which was why I was drinking it as fast as possible. |
| 19:21.24 | wethrin | some blend, then? |
| 19:21.26 | Blapto | Got through half the bottle in about 20 minutes, and apparently I drank the rest over the course of the night. |
| 19:21.29 | wethrin | heh |
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| 19:25.16 | Blapto | How much is a bottle of whisky, 750ml normally? |
| 19:29.30 | wethrin | 70cl |
| 19:29.39 | wethrin | Maybe 750 |
| 19:35.06 | Erwin | 70cl looking at the empty bottles here |
| 19:35.17 | Blapto | ok |
| 19:39.27 | mozrat | Good evening comrades |
| 19:46.43 | Cope | hello mozrat |
| 19:46.45 | Cope | i am home now |
| 19:46.50 | Blapto | Greetings, Tavarish! |
| 19:47.14 | Cope | gah no rhowe |
| 19:47.22 | Cope | rhowe |
| 19:47.24 | Cope | ? |
| 19:47.31 | Blapto | He's just gone out to spend his loan |
| 19:48.16 | Cope | i see |
| 19:48.24 | Cope | cheap whisky-- |
| 19:49.49 | Blapto | Yay! |
| 19:51.14 | mozrat | hi Cope |
| 19:51.29 | George | Copeycope! |
| 19:51.35 | George | alcohol-- |
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| 19:51.53 | Blapto | mozrat, they interesting in buying it or just nosey? |
| 19:52.40 | mozrat | Blapto: hopefully interested in buying |
| 19:53.02 | rhowe | Cope: ? |
| 19:53.09 | Cope | rhowe: |
| 19:53.11 | Cope | ah! |
| 19:53.12 | Cope | yay |
| 19:53.18 | Cope | rhowe: are you able to /msg |
| 19:53.40 | rhowe | Cope: Nope |
| 19:53.46 | Cope | hrm |
| 19:53.48 | Cope | icq? |
| 19:54.08 | Cope | good old fashioned phone? |
| 19:54.38 | rhowe | Cope: Call your mobile #? |
| 19:54.54 | Cope | kk |
| 19:59.00 | Cope | rhowe: now would be great - have finished up with colleague |
| 20:01.32 | Cope | rhowe: gah - now no longer a good time - food has arrived |
| 20:01.36 | Cope | will poke you later |
| 20:01.39 | Cope | or call you |
| 20:02.25 | Blapto | just create an empty channel... |
| 20:07.27 | pawel | :> |
| 20:07.30 | pawel | hi. |
| 20:10.48 | rhowe | Cope: 'k |
| 20:11.10 | pawel | mozrat: what is the house that you have on sale? |
| 20:15.51 | pawel | it started picking up around x-mas and never went down. |
| 20:24.52 | eye69 | This is weird. Trying to get LIRC working, but I can't get any reaction from the receiver. It's working fine in Windows. It's an irman that doesn't require a kernel driver. |
| 20:25.27 | eye69 | /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 |
| 20:26.04 | eye69 | It's properly setup in the BIOS too (3f8, 4) |
| 20:28.24 | eye69 | I seem to remember having this problem a few years ago (have had the receiver for a long time) but I can't remember how I solved it. |
| 20:30.27 | eye69 | Hmmmm...shouldn't /proc/interrupts show the port? |
| 20:32.47 | eye69 | I'll try compiling serial support as a module instead. |
| 20:33.30 | eye69 | Wow, this monolog stuff is fun. |
| 20:39.26 | eye69 | Nope, that didn't work. |
| 21:01.44 | mozrat | pawel: I'm not really here but => http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-10802390.rsp?pa_n=1&tr_t=buy |
| 21:03.07 | rhowe | Cope: Free? |
| 21:03.37 | mozrat | ooh, Free Copes? Where can I get one? |
| 21:16.30 | mozrat | eye69: how are you (monologue man) :-) |
| 21:16.45 | George | it's mozart! |
| 21:16.45 | mozrat | ibot spell monolog |
| 21:16.53 | George | monologue |
| 21:16.58 | mozrat | Mmm |
| 21:24.20 | z00dax | anyone know about an 'ignore thread' sort of a plugin for thunderbird ? |
| 21:26.56 | George | z00dax: is that anything like your "annoy the fuck out of people on gaim" plugin? |
| 21:27.41 | z00dax | George, no - this one is for me. considering i've finally stopped using netscape navigator 3.01 gold and moved to thunderbird - might as well get some functionality too |
| 21:30.18 | mozrat | z00000000000000000000000000dax |
| 21:30.33 | George | mozart! |
| 21:30.39 | mozrat | GEORGE! |
| 21:31.13 | mozrat | George, I was trying to find a log of #kde-dev to see when you were kicked this afternoon |
| 21:31.45 | z00dax | mozraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttt! |
| 21:32.44 | mozrat | hey-hey |
| 21:33.01 | z00dax | lemme find that code for you |
| 21:33.50 | mozrat | thank you |
| 21:49.24 | z00dax | maybe i dont have it after all. :( |
| 21:49.29 | z00dax | lemme ask |
| 21:50.51 | mozrat | bummer |
| 21:50.53 | mozrat | nevermind |
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| 22:34.19 | mozrat | bugger |
| 22:34.33 | mozrat | beerandspeech.org <<broken |
| 22:35.03 | z00dax | ooops |
| 22:35.16 | mozrat | that beta software maybe wasn't such a great idea |
| 22:35.29 | mozrat | problem is... upgrading altered my SQL database |
| 22:35.42 | z00dax | looks like a broken db |
| 22:35.44 | mozrat | I don't know what downgrading is going to do |
| 22:35.47 | mozrat | arse |
| 22:35.53 | z00dax | and backups were not done |
| 22:35.59 | mozrat | of course they are done :-) |
| 22:36.09 | z00dax | to /dev/null ? |
| 22:36.13 | mozrat | tar'd, gpg'd, ftp'd |
| 22:36.44 | z00dax | gpg'd ? you sign your own backups ? |
| 22:36.47 | mozrat | I've been caught out recently - my backups are done now :) |
| 22:36.55 | mozrat | encrypted - I ftp them offsite to work |
| 22:37.00 | z00dax | ah ok |
| 22:37.16 | mozrat | Don't particulary want people knowing what they are. |
| 22:38.45 | mozrat | I can still get into the admin interface, strange |
| 22:41.09 | George | z00dax: hah, you don't get a hug because you use 00 |
| 22:41.12 | mozrat | George: don't upgrade s9y |
| 22:41.23 | George | mozrat: broken? |
| 22:41.31 | mozrat | yeah - just 10 minutes ago |
| 22:41.35 | mozrat | I was uploading some images |
| 22:41.35 | George | hah |
| 22:41.43 | George | so my blog entry is... dead? |
| 22:41.46 | mozrat | went to click the homepage - gone! |
| 22:41.53 | George | :D |
| 22:42.04 | mozrat | no-one in #s9y either |
| 22:42.08 | George | :( |
| 22:42.24 | z00dax | George, i have the content in my rss reader |
| 22:42.29 | mozrat | reckon I need to drop the database before reinstalling it? |
| 22:42.34 | George | I have random people from random universities telling me to go to their random university |
| 22:42.38 | George | on my blog |
| 22:42.45 | mozrat | z00dax: for some reason I can go into the admin interface and edit todays entries |
| 22:42.47 | mozrat | so I have them |
| 22:42.49 | mozrat | thanks |
| 22:42.50 | George | z00dax: yeah, but you suck because you have a ferrari laptop and a 00 in your nick :) |
| 22:43.07 | George | BASTARD |
| 22:43.08 | mozrat | I might restore to a separate database and repoint s9y |
| 22:43.59 | George | hrmm |
| 22:44.04 | George | I don't like ye |
| 22:44.11 | z00dax | George, :) |
| 22:45.28 | mozrat | Hmph |
| 22:46.03 | George | sorry, you're on my "bitch until he submits" list today |
| 22:48.18 | mozrat | goddamn it |
| 22:48.32 | mozrat | just decrypted my backup file to STDOUT and trashed my tty |
| 22:49.01 | Cope | mozrat: more /bin/sh |
| 22:49.09 | George | I've decided to create my own religion |
| 22:49.15 | George | it shall be called sausaganity |
| 22:49.26 | George | and it is the belief that sausages are the one true food |
| 22:49.45 | George | and holds the belief that one day the one true sausage will come and redeem the world of the non-sausage-believers |
| 22:49.53 | George | we also don't believe in capital letters |
| 22:50.37 | z00dax | how about numbers ? |
| 22:50.43 | George | they're ok |
| 22:50.47 | z00dax | i am good then |
| 22:50.52 | George | hah! |
| 22:51.05 | George | but we don't like the colour red |
| 22:51.33 | z00dax | from my point of view - i see only black actually |
| 22:51.55 | z00dax | brb in a bit, stuff needs doing |
| 22:52.10 | George | lol |
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| 23:03.03 | mozrat | man - it's screwed |
| 23:03.07 | mozrat | just downgraded |
| 23:03.09 | mozrat | and it is fucked |
| 23:03.12 | Cope | :( |
| 23:03.26 | mozrat | thanks Cope |
| 23:03.39 | mozrat | I have mysqldumps going back for a few months |
| 23:03.48 | mozrat | will have to rol *right* back |
| 23:03.53 | Cope | grr |
| 23:03.55 | mozrat | s/rol/roll/ |
| 23:04.09 | mozrat | food first - afk *sulking* |
| 23:15.06 | mikejw | hey guys :) |
| 23:18.54 | mozrat | god-fucking-damnit |
| 23:18.58 | mozrat | run out of space on /tmp |
| 23:19.00 | George | hey mikejw |
| 23:19.05 | mozrat | thats why it is broken |
| 23:19.06 | George | mozrat: haha, you need more disks :D |
| 23:19.21 | mozrat | no - Bytemark need to give me more than 40Mb in /tmp |
| 23:19.35 | George | hahaha, you need to get a colo |
| 23:19.57 | mozrat | George - you need a haircut - I'm not baiting you about that :) |
| 23:20.06 | George | mozrat: true, I'm getting one tomorrow |
| 23:20.11 | George | you still need a colo though |
| 23:20.14 | George | and a shave |
| 23:21.56 | z00dax | mozrat, i have a machine with about a TiB of drive space sitting on a 100mb link in the US - need some space ? |
| 23:22.01 | mozrat | and if by magic ... http://beerandspeech.org/ |
| 23:22.03 | mozrat | it works |
| 23:22.14 | mozrat | man - first rule of restoring stuff. DELETE NOTHING |
| 23:22.52 | mozrat | z00dax: thanks for the offer - I need to get a script warning me of less than 10% space |
| 23:22.56 | mozrat | right - now food |
| 23:23.21 | z00dax | if you were using centos, the nightly cron would have told you :) |
| 23:23.39 | mozrat | :) |
| 23:23.39 | rhowe | whee, new credit card's arrived |
| 23:23.48 | mozrat | food food food |
| 23:23.51 | mozrat | night all - |
| 23:23.54 | rhowe | in a lovely garish shade of pink |
| 23:23.56 | z00dax | mozrat, enjoy your meal while its still today |
| 23:24.00 | mozrat | :) |
| 23:24.41 | mozrat | morning/good night Leeds |
| 23:24.47 | rhowe | 'night mozrat |
| 23:25.07 | Erwin | Nintendo DS is fun. Next game I hope to get involves you playing a laywer and having to yell Hold it! Objection! Take that! into the microphone while in the courtroom (and solving the case, too) |
| 23:25.08 | Leeds | morning/night mozrat |
| 23:26.19 | Leeds | Erwin: Pheonix Wright (or something similar) |
| 23:26.57 | Erwin | Yeah, though it seems it isn't released in UK until next month. |
| 23:28.51 | Cope | :( |
| 23:29.16 | Leeds | and chicken soup |
| 23:29.16 | mikejw | good call |
| 23:30.11 | Cope | isn't an xml parser? |
| 23:30.40 | Cope | anyway |
| 23:30.42 | Cope | shattered |
| 23:30.45 | Cope | night night |
| 23:30.51 | Leeds | there's beautifulsoup |
| 23:30.53 | Cope | wfh tomorrow |
| 23:30.55 | Leeds | Cope: g'night |
| 23:30.59 | mikejw | Cope: night :) |
| 23:31.06 | Cope | Leeds: ah yeah, knew it was some sort of suop |
| 23:33.16 | Leeds | mmm... soup... |
| 23:51.28 | gregj | :D |
| 23:51.38 | gregj | and it works, after 2h of bug hunting, and docs reading |
| 23:51.39 | wethrin | yay |
| 23:51.44 | gregj | http://gj.pointblue.com.pl/projects/socketsTest.app.zip |
| 23:51.46 | gregj | :] |
| 23:51.58 | gregj | http://gj.pointblue.com.pl/projects/socketsTest.zip <- xcode project |
| 23:52.14 | gregj | yeah |
| 23:54.34 | gregj | ;] |
| 23:55.52 | wethrin | gregj: You coming to Fosdem? |
| 23:56.33 | gregj | nope |
| 23:56.39 | gregj | -EIMBROKE |
| 23:56.51 | wethrin | :( |
| 23:57.14 | gregj | 5 projects, loads of debts to pay off, including one fellow from here, no perspectives |
| 23:58.58 | wethrin | :( |
