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`00:17.23`	`*** part/#gllug zachary (n=zachary@ip68-228-134-15.hr.hr.cox.net)`
`00:19.38`	`George`	`hello`
`00:51.50`	`mikejw`	`hey`
`00:57.39`	`George`	`moo`
`01:00.42`	`mikejw`	`:S`
`01:07.50`	`George`	`mikejw: what's this about the wmin compsoc then?`
`01:08.27`	`George`	`mikejw: and will I have my arse kicked for not being a student at wmin? :P`
`01:10.12`	`mikejw`	`no I sincerely hope not :)`
`01:10.30`	`George`	`:P`
`01:10.34`	`George`	`good`
`01:10.35`	`George`	`lol`
`01:11.07`	`George`	`I HATE SCHOOL`
`01:11.07`	`George`	`lol`
`01:11.32`	`mikejw`	`:D`
`01:11.42`	`George`	`A levels are getting more boring by the day`
`01:11.52`	`George`	`I got 6/42 in my last further maths test :D`
`01:12.39`	`mikejw`	`I took to me a while to realise the value of education :)`
`01:12.45`	`George`	`heh`
`01:12.56`	`George`	`I have plans to stay at university for a long long time`
`01:13.00`	`George`	`like wethrin, but longer :P`
`01:13.20`	`mikejw`	`sounds good`
`01:13.24`	`George`	`yeah`
`01:13.35`	`George`	`academia++`
`01:13.36`	`George`	`job--`
`01:14.05`	`mikejw`	`it's an appealing prospect`
`01:14.12`	`George`	`yes`
`01:16.11`	`George`	`mikejw: are you the guy who had the X21?`
`01:16.20`	`mikejw`	`yeah :D`
`01:16.26`	`George`	`mikejw: nice`
`01:16.33`	`mikejw`	`thanks`
`01:16.42`	`George`	`mikejw: do those ones have extended life batteries that can clip on the bottom like a docking station?`
`01:16.48`	`George`	`or are those only the x30/x40 series?`
`01:16.54`	`mikejw`	`hmmm I've no idea`
`01:17.11`	`George`	`I've decided I'm going to buy myself a subnotebook just before I go to uni`
`01:17.21`	`mikejw`	`an X40?`
`01:17.25`	`George`	`probably`
`01:17.42`	`George`	`by the summer they'll probably be around 500 pounds on eBay`
`01:18.21`	`mikejw`	`wicked :)`
`01:18.45`	`George`	`they currently go for 600`
`01:18.52`	`mikejw`	`ok`
`01:19.06`	`George`	`won't be anywhere near as nice as my T43p, but it'll be portable and have a nice battery life :)`
`01:19.45`	`George`	`either that or I could wait until my second year to buy one, as I think the lectures are just across the road from where I'll be living`
`01:19.48`	`George`	`lol`
`01:19.56`	`mikejw`	`lol`
`01:20.07`	`mikejw`	`that's handy`
`01:20.11`	`George`	`yeah`
`01:20.17`	`George`	`roll out of bed`
`01:20.38`	`George`	`or get a parabolic microphone and stick it out of the window`
`01:21.03`	`mikejw`	`:)`
`01:21.10`	`George`	`:)`
`01:21.30`	`George`	`hrmm, time to charge my mouse`
`01:21.35`	`mikejw`	`ok`
`01:21.45`	`mikejw`	`I think I'll hit the sack`
`01:22.20`	`mikejw`	`I'm not sure sure but I may wake up early enough to attend a psychology society meeting :)`
`01:22.48`	`George`	`psychology?`
`01:22.53`	`George`	`who are you trying to manipulate?`
`01:22.57`	`mikejw`	`lol`
`01:23.26`	`George`	`anyway, I'd better be off and read some books`
`01:23.27`	`George`	`or something`
`01:23.30`	`George`	`(for once)`
`01:24.00`	`mikejw`	`books are good`
`01:25.46`	`George`	`s/buy/buying/`
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`02:22.03`	`morsing`	`This sucks :-(`
`02:22.09`	`morsing`	`LeedsHK!`
`02:25.18`	`LeedsHK`	`what sucks?`
`02:25.29`	`LeedsHK`	`being awake at 2:40 in the morning?`
`02:25.33`	`LeedsHK`	`uh, 2:24`
`02:25.38`	`LeedsHK`	`morsing: what?`
`02:25.50`	`LeedsHK`	`cock it...`
`02:28.46`	`morsing`	`LeedsHK: That I'm awake`
`02:29.30`	`LeedsHK`	`why are you awake?`
`02:29.45`	`morsing`	`Don't know...`
`02:30.07`	`LeedsHK`	`worried about life, the universe and everything?`
`02:30.12`	`LeedsHK`	`drunk, but not drunk enough?`
`02:30.14`	`LeedsHK`	`women?`
`02:30.25`	`morsing`	`02:30 < LeedsHK> worried about life, the universe and everything?`
`02:30.39`	`LeedsHK`	`there's an easy answer to that one`
`02:31.20`	`LeedsHK`	`you know the answer, right?`
`02:31.56`	`morsing`	`Sleep?`
`02:32.00`	`LeedsHK`	`nope`
`02:32.12`	`LeedsHK`	`the answer to the great question of life...`
`02:32.14`	`LeedsHK`	`the universe...`
`02:32.17`	`LeedsHK`	`and everything!`
`02:33.02`	`LeedsHK`	`you're not going to like it`
`02:33.20`	`LeedsHK`	`42!`
`02:35.36`	`morsing`	`What are you doing?`
`02:36.39`	`LeedsHK`	`telling you the Answer`
`02:36.46`	`LeedsHK`	`and quoting from a book in the process`
`02:39.24`	`morsing`	`No are you at work?`
`02:39.36`	`LeedsHK`	`yes`
`02:39.42`	`morsing`	`Why can't I sleep :-(`
`02:40.37`	`LeedsHK`	`how long have you been at Camelot?`
`02:43.16`	`morsing`	`2.4 years`
`02:43.44`	`LeedsHK`	`is that a short time or a long time for you to be in one job?`
`02:44.50`	`morsing`	`Unfortunately that's a long time :-(`
`02:45.07`	`morsing`	`I really want to find a good job and hold on to it`
`02:45.48`	`morsing`	`Well, I'm going to bed again to watch some TV`
`02:45.50`	`morsing`	`G'night`
`02:45.54`	`LeedsHK`	`what I was going to say was...`
`02:45.55`	`morsing`	`See you in the morning`
`02:45.59`	`morsing`	`Yes?`
`02:46.23`	`LeedsHK`	`if you've been in the job for a long time, starting the process of moving on with the physical act of writing and submitting your resignation is a major life step`
`02:46.36`	`morsing`	`Yes`
`02:46.47`	`LeedsHK`	`so a sleepless night isn't exactly unsuprising`
`02:47.00`	`morsing`	`No - you're right`
`02:47.18`	`morsing`	`But I've had a number of them over the last two months`
`02:47.40`	`LeedsHK`	`you mean during the period leading up to the physical act of writing and submitting your resignation?`
`02:48.26`	`morsing`	`No - not really. Maybe just stress in general`
`02:48.43`	`LeedsHK`	`life sucks`
`02:49.07`	`morsing`	`Mmm...`
`02:49.11`	`morsing`	`G'night`
`02:49.25`	`LeedsHK`	`g'night`
`06:39.02`	`LeedsHK`	`ibot change 5280 hkd to gbp`
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`07:59.58`	`LeedsHK`	`SlayerXP: what are your thoughts on the matter?`
`08:00.19`	`SlayerXP`	`Leeds: it's a disgrace.`
`08:00.42`	`LeedsHK`	`unfortunately, I think you're probably right`
`08:00.53`	`SlayerXP`	`what are we talking about?`
`08:01.16`	`LeedsHK`	`nothing in particular`
`08:01.49`	`LeedsHK`	`http://simonworld.mu.nu/archives/158834.php is not paintball pictures`
`08:05.28`	`LeedsHK`	`neither is http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A4%D7%A2_%D7%94%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%A2_%D7%A9%D7%9C_%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A7%D7%99`
`08:33.05`	`mozrat`	`morning`
`08:33.40`	`LeedsHK`	`I just got a Jewish joke from fortune...`
`08:34.53`	`mozrat`	`Leeds, my friend used to have a flat overlooking that airport`
`08:36.05`	`LeedsHK`	`I've been at the end of the runway on a boat`
`08:36.14`	`mozrat`	`heh`
`08:36.19`	`mozrat`	`surprised they allow that`
`08:36.35`	`LeedsHK`	`uh, you do know they closed the airport years ago?`
`08:36.48`	`mozrat`	`yes - they moved it right?`
`08:37.00`	`mozrat`	`I see your point :)`
`08:37.17`	`LeedsHK`	`well, they closed it and opened a new one... much as property development in Hong Kong resembles a game of Populous, they didn't actuall transplant it :-)`
`08:37.59`	`LeedsHK`	`when I say it resembles Populus, the standard development technique is "We want to build X (airport, Disneyland, etc.) but we can't find a good spot - so we'll build a bunch of land over there, out of the sea, then build on it"`
`08:39.04`	`mozrat`	`sounds fair enough`
`08:43.28`	`LeedsHK`	`uh, no`
`08:44.49`	`LeedsHK`	`they took two small islands off the north of Lantau and made a single 12.48km^2 island out of them`
`08:45.27`	`LeedsHK`	`almost all the flat land on the north side of Hong Kong island was once harbour... at the rate they're going, they could close the harbour up within the next 100 years - seriously`
`08:45.47`	`mozrat`	`isn't it regulated?`
`08:46.07`	`LeedsHK`	`yes and no`
`08:46.45`	`LeedsHK`	`Hong Kong is very 'business-friendly' - which usually translates as 'property developers have to do something monumentally bad for the government to care'`
`08:46.57`	`mozrat`	`right`
`08:47.06`	`LeedsHK`	`some of the numbers behind the Disney development are stunning`
`08:47.07`	`mozrat`	`is there a big "green" campaign against it?`
`08:47.30`	`LeedsHK`	`small but growing`
`08:48.00`	`LeedsHK`	`Disney got the equivalent of something amazing like $20,000 (HK) for every person in HK in the form of subsidies and land grants`
`08:48.52`	`LeedsHK`	`I'm sorry - $42,000`
`08:49.28`	`LeedsHK`	`http://www.webb-site.com/articles/hkdisney.htm - okay, this is a pretty anti-government site, but he is making an interesting point`
`08:49.36`	`LeedsHK`	`plus, his site has a cool name :-)`
`08:51.49`	`LeedsHK`	`for the record, 1GBP ~= 13.5 HKG`
`08:51.51`	`LeedsHK`	`HKD`
`08:56.45`	`mozrat`	`that is a awful lot of money`
`08:57.12`	`LeedsHK`	`that is including the estimated market value of the reclaimed land`
`08:57.28`	`LeedsHK`	`it's only $3600 in actual cash... per person...`
`09:03.04`	`*** join/#gllug z00dax (n=z00dax@kbsingh.plus.com)`
`09:03.13`	`LeedsHK`	`z00dax!`
`09:08.47`	`*** join/#gllug gregj (n=gj@195.225.250.34)`
`09:08.48`	`*** join/#gllug floo (n=gary@host-84-9-83-158.bulldogdsl.com)`
`09:09.04`	`LeedsHK`	`floo!`
`09:11.25`	`LeedsHK`	`"Estimated amount of glucose used by an adult human brain each day, expressed in M&Ms: 250"`
`09:13.37`	`LeedsHK`	`I wonder how much disk space, memory, bandwidth, etc. is wasted by people who don't realise that Excel creates three worksheets by default, and if you're just using 3 lines of the first one, you can delete the others...`
`09:14.50`	`SlayerXP`	`Leeds: not very much, I imagine`
`09:15.51`	`floo`	`hi leeds`
`09:15.54`	`floo`	`how's it oging?`
`09:16.13`	`LeedsHK`	`SlayerXP: in aggregate?`
`09:16.23`	`LeedsHK`	`floo: not bad... you?`
`09:16.58`	`SlayerXP`	`Leeds: compared to the amount wasted by fuckwits using html email, it's insignificant`
`09:17.14`	`LeedsHK`	`true`
`09:19.32`	`murb`	`what is wrong with non plain text emails?`
`09:19.50`	`*** join/#gllug George (i=george@host-83-146-61-45.bulldogdsl.com)`
`09:20.30`	`SlayerXP`	`murb:`
`09:20.31`	`SlayerXP`	`err`
`09:20.38`	`SlayerXP`	`http://www.hinterlands.org/gllugfaq/#id2482278`
`09:20.52`	`murb`	`SlayerXP: in somecases it might be appriate.`
`09:21.13`	`mozrat`	`" This is stupidity compounding stupidity." :_`
`09:21.15`	`murb`	`should i send an invoice as text or pdf?`
`09:21.15`	`mozrat`	`:)`
`09:21.31`	`LeedsHK`	`SlayerXP: in my firefox, text can clash with the floating logo`
`09:21.44`	`LeedsHK`	`murb: pdf`
`09:22.01`	`SlayerXP`	`LeedsHK: jolly good.`
`09:23.09`	`LeedsHK`	`and I'm not quite sure that "Consider joining a Linux User Group (LUG)." is the sanest advice in a LUG's FAQ - at least, not unqualified like that`
`09:24.35`	`murb`	`consider buying SlayerXP beer and paying for other "proffesional services" would be better advice?`
`09:24.41`	`*** join/#gllug morsing_ (n=morsing@emil.morsing.cc)`
`09:24.44`	`LeedsHK`	`yes`
`09:24.50`	`mozrat`	`woo morsing_`
`09:24.53`	`LeedsHK`	`ibot wake morsing_`
`09:25.03`	`SlayerXP`	`LeedsHK: not everyone reading that will be in london`
`09:25.11`	`SlayerXP`	`gllug is alos not the only LUG in london`
`09:25.13`	`SlayerXP`	`also`
`09:25.32`	`LeedsHK`	`hence, qualifying it might be a good idea`
`09:25.49`	`morsing_`	`Hello`
`09:25.49`	`SlayerXP`	`send your patch to: martin@hinterlands.org`
`09:26.11`	`LeedsHK`	`no`
`09:26.38`	`SlayerXP`	`i dunno`
`09:27.03`	`SlayerXP`	`these people talk about open source freedom and the collaboration of people from all round the world`
`09:27.16`	`SlayerXP`	`but ask them to send in a teeny tiny patch and what do you get?`
`09:27.18`	`SlayerXP`	`tsk`
`09:27.42`	`LeedsHK`	`I could send you a few yards of fabric and you could cut your own patch from it?`
`09:27.57`	`SlayerXP`	`sure. mail to Martin A. Brooks, Vegmo, 7710 Sparbu, Norway`
`09:27.58`	`LeedsHK`	`yes, people still sell/price fabric by the yard`
`09:28.33`	`morsing_`	`Crap`
`09:28.34`	`SlayerXP`	`an experiment with a postcard proved that "Brooks, Sparbu, Norway" will get to me, too`
`09:28.40`	`murb`	`oh norway, isn't that in some kind of lesser known customs union?`
`09:29.08`	`LeedsHK`	`my email is behaving a little strangely`
`09:29.17`	`murb`	`reboot it.`
`09:29.39`	`SlayerXP`	`installms exchange`
`09:29.44`	`LeedsHK`	`no`
`09:30.32`	`SlayerXP`	`lotus notes?`
`09:30.36`	`morsing_`	`Check it!`
`09:30.59`	`LeedsHK`	`argh!`
`09:31.06`	`LeedsHK`	`morsing_: sleep well?`
`09:31.06`	`murb`	`he said email, not groupware!`
`09:31.25`	`SlayerXP`	`oh, just install AOL then`
`09:31.26`	`morsing_`	`LeedsHK: No! And I over slept and didn't get any breakfast`
`09:38.04`	`LeedsHK`	`morsing: shall I get you some bagels?`
`09:38.12`	`morsing`	`Thanks :-)`
`09:49.09`	`LeedsHK`	`hmm... lebsian Linux limmerick...`
`09:55.06`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Did you get the money?`
`10:12.59`	`wethrin`	`morsing: Don't know. It normally takes 3 days to clear`
`10:14.29`	`LeedsHK`	`something is very strange at bytemark`
`10:14.44`	`LeedsHK`	`my vm keeps forgetting how to spawn shells...`
`10:16.52`	`LeedsHK`	`to the extent that while backing stuff up, just now, in preparation for a reinstall, sudo hung...`
`10:18.36`	`murb`	`LeedsHK: memory shortage?`
`10:19.44`	`LeedsHK`	`I doubt it - dmesg would have reported something... I had another shell active, and could still run other commands - apache/exim/etc still running fine - then I stupidly ran sudo again and lost that shell`
`10:22.56`	`morsing`	`How can a bank not have �5800? I have to order it in for tomorrow!`
`10:23.54`	`LeedsHK`	`small-ish branch, doesn't keep as much cash as it used to...`
`10:24.58`	`murb`	`morsing: I've not had problems drawing 10000 before from hsbc in wycombe.`
`10:25.17`	`murb`	`although i did have to explain that they couldn't refuse to give it to me just because they didn't like my passport photo...`
`10:25.19`	`morsing`	`murb: Maybe not but you're rich`
`10:25.43`	`murb`	`morsing: i'm not rich, i was just doing a bank transfer.`
`10:27.04`	`LeedsHK`	`hometime`
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`10:28.59`	`stephanb2`	`yo`
`10:33.46`	`morsing`	`stephanb2!`
`10:33.50`	`mozrat`	`yoyo stephanb2`
`10:33.55`	`morsing`	`mozrat!`
`10:34.01`	`mozrat`	`morsing!`
`10:41.39`	`SlayerXP`	`is that like "taking tea with the parson" ?`
`10:41.52`	`mozrat`	`Goodness`
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`10:49.04`	`morsing`	`z00-mobile!`
`10:49.11`	`z00-mobile`	`Hello`
`10:49.21`	`mozrat`	`hey z00-mobile`
`10:49.36`	`z00-mobile`	`back @ the embassy!`
`10:50.05`	`mozrat`	`z00-mobile: you have to do this marlarky for every country you go to?`
`10:50.12`	`stephanb2`	`ok can i ask you guys about usb booting ?`
`10:50.40`	`morsing`	`No!`
`10:51.29`	`z00-mobile`	`mozrat - pretty much - but in most cases its a few hours process`
`10:51.47`	`z00-mobile`	`not including the US`
`10:52.16`	`z00-mobile`	`The US guys take upto 10 to 45 days`
`10:52.20`	`mozrat`	`yikes`
`10:53.09`	`z00-mobile`	`The next time I go there it will be on a 10 year visa - so it gets better`
`10:54.39`	`z00-mobile`	`a spanking new bentley parked outside`
`10:54.48`	`morsing`	`Mmm... Bentley Turbo R`
`10:55.36`	`stephanb2`	`already bored with this sportscar u bought yesterday off ebay ?`
`10:55.47`	`morsing`	`sportscar?`
`10:55.56`	`stephanb2`	`what is it again, it's a 1970 model and its red`
`10:55.58`	`morsing`	`No - I'm having problems arranging picking it up`
`10:56.05`	`morsing`	`Chevelle`
`10:56.05`	`mozrat`	`yay - opensuse have RPMs for xgl and compiz`
`10:56.22`	`z00-mobile`	`I can picture the scene - someone is refused a visa on some doggy grounds - dude buys a can of spray paint - bently gets some makeup`
`10:56.40`	`morsing`	`doggy grounds?`
`10:57.24`	`stephanb2`	`ah the owner has to empty the cocaine off the boot`
`10:57.49`	`z00-mobile`	`if blondie thinks u r running away from cops etc`
`10:59.01`	`z00-mobile`	`its Time -`
`10:59.39`	`mozrat`	`good luck`
`11:00.15`	`z00-mobile`	`damn! a queue`
`11:00.52`	`morsing`	`Does my openplan woolwich card work at Barclays`
`11:00.56`	`z00-mobile`	`mozrat - tried those rpms ?`
`11:01.04`	`mozrat`	`z00-mobile: doing so now :)`
`11:02.47`	`z00-mobile`	`might want to rpm -Vv them once- just to make sure none of the skeletons from ur last build attempt get in the way`
`11:03.10`	`mozrat`	`z00-mobile: I built everything under /opt/fdo last time so I hope it will be OK`
`11:03.14`	`SlayerXP`	`better still, install devian`
`11:03.16`	`SlayerXP`	`debian`
`11:03.21`	`mozrat`	`deviant?`
`11:04.19`	`z00-mobile`	`deviant linu x for the freaks`
`11:11.24`	`stephanb2`	`devian or davian what a great name for a distro`
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`11:11.59`	`z00-mobile`	`back!`
`11:12.22`	`stephanb2`	`when booting, davian plays this sound sample from Stan Kubrick's 2001 "Good morning Dave..."`
`11:13.01`	`z00-mobile`	`looks like I m going to Fosdem after all`
`11:13.08`	`mozrat`	`yay`
`11:16.32`	`Cope`	`:$`
`11:18.23`	`morsing`	`Mmm... $`
`11:20.44`	`mozrat`	`Sad, terrible news from our Hong Kong office :(. They came back from lunch earlier today to find that the office crab had a fight with the office lobster and lost all but one of it's legs`
`11:20.54`	`mozrat`	`There are pictures`
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`11:31.09`	`comiccpunk`	`hai`
`11:32.06`	`wethrin`	`hello`
`11:33.09`	`comiccpunk`	`hai`
`11:35.54`	`morsing`	`comiccpunk!`
`11:37.46`	`mikejw`	`comiccpunk: hey :)`
`11:37.46`	`mozrat`	`hello`
`11:38.42`	`comiccpunk`	`:)`
`11:39.31`	`comiccpunk`	`heo`
`11:41.42`	`comiccpunk`	`maybe`
`11:49.59`	`morsing`	`-bash: ptime: command not found`
`11:53.49`	`*** part/#gllug comiccpunk (n=user09@202.73.108.82)`
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`12:20.38`	`SlayerXP`	`what does ptime do?`
`12:22.15`	`rhowe`	`Reminds Henrik to go to the toilet regularly?`
`12:36.14`	`mozrat`	`hey kbsingh - so you are good to go?`
`12:36.40`	`kbsingh`	`mozrat, yea - the jokers gave me a freaking 1 month visa, I was hoping for a year or 2 years`
`12:37.15`	`kbsingh`	`but, looks like I will be at Fosdem`
`12:37.17`	`mozrat`	`oh well - solves the immeadiate problem`
`12:38.08`	`kbsingh`	`mozrat, yea - I suppose the next time I apply it would be easier + longer time period`
`12:39.05`	`mozrat`	`yes`
`12:53.10`	`morsing`	`kbsingh!`
`12:55.00`	`kbsingh`	`morsing!`
`12:59.06`	`Leeds`	`evening all`
`12:59.11`	`kbsingh`	`hey Leeds`
`12:59.42`	`Leeds`	`so, I go to the tailor... and he asked me how the concert was...`
`13:00.37`	`Leeds`	`I've only been to one concert recently - Franz Ferdinand - and I didn't see him here, but I guess he saw me... pulls out a photo of him with the band, points out which clothes of his they are wearing, shows me his backstage pass and says "I was going to give it to you..."`
`13:01.57`	`morsing`	`Cool`
`13:03.53`	`Leeds`	`this is a guy with a wall full of photos of him with celebs who've popped in for a suit - including such luminaries as Maggie, Prince Charles, Cliff Richard...`
`13:04.33`	`Leeds`	`nice bloke, too`
`13:10.23`	`mozrat`	`interesting guy`
`13:10.48`	`Leeds`	`http://www.time.com/time/asia/2004/boa/boa_body_tailor.html`
`13:11.47`	`Leeds`	`because?`
`13:11.53`	`Leeds`	`BTW, you bought that car?`
`13:13.35`	`kbsingh`	`heh, he's a melwani!`
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`13:14.35`	`Leeds`	`kbsingh: he certainly is... and?`
`13:14.44`	`Leeds`	`angelchild: good evening`
`13:14.54`	`*** join/#gllug pie (n=pie@browse.net-serv.co.uk)`
`13:14.54`	`angelchild`	`good afternoon :)`
`13:14.56`	`pie`	`Hola!`
`13:15.07`	`Leeds`	`http://www.viiphoto.com/detail-story3.php?news_id=324 and many other pages`
`13:15.10`	`Leeds`	`pie: good evening!`
`13:15.12`	`angelchild`	`I just won a 5-a-side football cup game 4-0 :D`
`13:15.22`	`pie`	`Does Linux work with PCI-E`
`13:15.23`	`pie`	`?`
`13:15.25`	`Leeds`	`angelchild: there are 5 of you?`
`13:15.26`	`angelchild`	`(the electronics & computer science department undergrad team ;))`
`13:15.37`	`pie`	`specifically nvidia gfx cards`
`13:15.41`	`angelchild`	`okay, we won :)`
`13:15.58`	`Leeds`	`pie: in theory, I think yes, in practice, I chickened out and bought AGP (actually, a hybrid board with both)`
`13:16.51`	`kbsingh`	`Leeds, iirc one of the big named tailors in India is also Melwani - based out of bombay`
`13:17.15`	`pie`	`Bah!`
`13:17.22`	`Leeds`	`well, he's the second generation of Sam in Hong Kong`
`13:17.25`	`pie`	`How do you mean in theory?`
`13:17.55`	`Leeds`	`although the idea of a tailor with a stage name is slightly funny`
`13:18.16`	`Leeds`	`pie: well, I think the bus should work - it's just whether, say, X works as well...`
`13:19.22`	`pie`	`Hmmm, I could do with something a bit more concrete, any ideas where to look?`
`13:20.16`	`mozrat`	`angelchild: yay`
`13:20.21`	`Leeds`	`kbsingh: I see mention of his dad having come from bombay`
`13:20.41`	`Leeds`	`pie: I'd start by digging around x.org things - you could always try #xorg :-)`
`13:23.34`	`pie`	`I think I will checken out :)`
`13:23.46`	`pie`	`I will get a 2nd HD instead`
`13:25.27`	`pie`	`What would people recommend, Asus, Gigabyte or MSI motherboards?`
`13:27.40`	`Leeds`	`I've always liked Asus - got an ASRock now`
`13:30.20`	`pie`	`What is the difference between sata and sata2?`
`13:33.02`	`SlayerXP`	`pie "2"`
`13:33.45`	`Leeds`	`speed AFAIK`
`13:34.17`	`Leeds`	`on the other hand, I believe that SATA drives still can't saturate their busses`
`13:34.42`	`morsing`	`Who cares anyway...`
`13:35.09`	`Leeds`	`morsing: did you buy the car?`
`13:35.13`	`morsing`	`Leeds: We are in discussions about my leaving date`
`13:35.27`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Yes - Sunday morning`
`13:35.45`	`Leeds`	`morsing: they are offering to set you up with someone if you stay longer?`
`13:35.45`	`eye69`	`morsing: What car?`
`13:36.25`	`Leeds`	`eye69: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4612860917&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D4612860917%26fvi%3D1`
`13:37.53`	`Leeds`	`pie: I have http://www.asrock.com/product/939Dual-SATA2.htm`
`13:38.06`	`eye69`	`Cool`
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`13:42.25`	`Leeds`	`evening Erwin`
`13:43.22`	`kbsingh`	`weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee`
`13:43.25`	`kbsingh`	`snowing!`
`13:43.37`	`Leeds`	`kbsingh: what? where?`
`13:43.46`	`kbsingh`	`docklands!`
`13:43.59`	`Leeds`	`whoa`
`13:44.46`	`kbsingh`	`that didnt last long`
`13:45.45`	`pie`	`thanks Leeds. Is sata ATA150 and sata2 ata300 ?`
`13:46.00`	`Leeds`	`something like that, eys`
`13:47.20`	`Leeds`	`the sata2 controller isn't (wasn't?) supported under Linux at all`
`13:47.41`	`pie`	`Ick, better not get one of those then :)`
`13:47.58`	`Leeds`	`I'm using the sata1 very happily`
`13:47.59`	`pie`	`is software raid as easy to do with sata as with IDE?`
`13:48.15`	`Leeds`	`hmm... #lugradio is a bit mad`
`13:48.26`	`Leeds`	`it just shows up as scsi`
`13:48.31`	`morsing`	`How do I get this to work?`
`13:48.33`	`morsing`	`$filename="$out_dir/$machine_$func.out";`
`13:48.41`	`morsing`	`I've spent two days on this now!`
`13:48.52`	`pie`	`cool`
`13:48.53`	`Erwin`	`In what language?`
`13:48.58`	`morsing`	`Perl`
`13:49.06`	`Leeds`	`I don't know about software raid, but I brought three drives - two pata, one sata - back with me from the UK, with an lvm-ed filesystem on them, and they're working perfectly`
`13:49.17`	`morsing`	`It says $machine_ isn't defined`
`13:49.22`	`Erwin`	`${machine}`
`13:49.32`	`morsing`	`Erwin: It's not shell scripting`
`13:49.36`	`SlayerXP`	`morsing: correct.`
`13:49.41`	`Leeds`	`morsing: I'm sure we've gone through this before`
`13:49.52`	`Leeds`	`$machine+"_"+$func+".out"`
`13:50.03`	`SlayerXP`	`$filename="$outdir/" . $machine . "_" . "$func.out"`
`13:50.09`	`pie`	`Leeds, when you say 'the sata2 controller isn't (wasn't?) supported under Linux at all', do you mean it shows up as a sata1 controller, or not at all?`
`13:50.18`	`Leeds`	`okay, . concatenation instead of + concatenation`
`13:50.38`	`Erwin`	`${foo} works too. The {} can be used to disambiguate in a case exacty like this.`
`13:50.40`	`Leeds`	`pie: not at all - doesn't exist in the Linux universe... doesn't help that it's on the pci-e bus :-)`
`13:50.55`	`pie`	`:)`
`13:51.00`	`morsing`	`Leeds: We have and it's not working`
`13:51.05`	`pie`	`OK, I had better be careful then :)`
`13:51.24`	`Erwin`	`"${out_dir}/${machine}_${func}.out"`
`13:51.28`	`morsing`	`Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) at ./check-last-1.0.sh line 29.`
`13:51.30`	`Erwin`	`There, it's clear what the variable names are`
`13:51.40`	`morsing`	`Erwin: Yes but then I get that error!`
`13:51.48`	`Erwin`	`Then something is unitialized. doh.`
`13:52.24`	`Erwin`	`did you assign to $out_dir ? $machine? $func?`
`13:54.43`	`morsing`	`Erwin: $machine comes from the command line and I hadn't set it`
`13:55.10`	`Leeds`	`pie: the point about that board, in case you hadn't noticed, is that it has both AGP and PCI-E, so you should be able to upgrade more easily... also, in theory, it should be able to have support for the next-gen AMD socket added in a daughterboard, although I've got no idea how well that will work`
`13:57.04`	`Erwin`	`morsing: How does it "come" from the command line?`
`14:00.20`	`pie`	`Leeds, It does look nice, but I am limited to a spplier that doesn't stock that board...`
`14:00.41`	`pie`	`What do you make of this one: http://smallr.com/1en`
`14:01.15`	`Leeds`	`pie: I should point out that the asrock one is pretty cheap'n'cheerful - works well for me, might not work for everyone`
`14:02.49`	`Leeds`	`pie: I would want to confirm support for the onboard stuff - particularly network and sata2 - if you're intending to use them`
`14:02.53`	`pie`	`It could be free, but I can't get it if microdirect don't stock it (it is a work thing).`
`14:04.00`	`Leeds`	`http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=10165&GroupID=1091`
`14:04.58`	`pie`	`:)`
`14:05.06`	`pie`	`And that works fine for you?`
`14:05.27`	`Leeds`	`if it's going to be free, you might want to go for something better, but it works well for me`
`14:05.49`	`pie`	`It also has to be 'not excessive'.`
`14:06.12`	`pie`	`Hmmm, I want something that will work primarily :)`
`14:06.19`	`Leeds`	`well, it's one of the cheapest there...`
`14:06.32`	`pie`	`If I save some wad I can get a second HD and raid them.`
`14:06.50`	`Leeds`	`I've only got a week of uptime because there was a power cut last week, but otherwise this machine has been running 24/7 for a few weeks now`
`14:07.06`	`SlayerXP`	`well gosh, that makes it super reliable`
`14:07.12`	`SlayerXP`	`quick! I must oracle and install it!`
`14:07.57`	`Leeds`	`it's a cheap desktop machine because I was tired of living out of a suitcase - i.e. a laptop`
`14:09.19`	`pie`	`Awww, knackers, it doesn't do ECC RAM...`
`14:09.24`	`pie`	`it would seem`
`14:09.34`	`Leeds`	`the whole machine, excluding monitors, cost me about 250 quid - for a decent processor, decent amounts of hard drive and memory`
`14:09.41`	`Leeds`	`nope, it's a cheap'n'cheerful desktop m/b`
`14:10.47`	`pie`	`I had better look at a different board then.`
`14:10.56`	`pie`	`I really hate hardware, I wish everything was software`
`14:11.25`	`pie`	`There could be 'real' VM's that didn't need hardware...`
`14:12.50`	`stephanb2`	`pie: i have been looking at gigabyte 737 mobo's + Athlon64. but i end up with a £300 system excluding hard drive and monitor`
`14:13.44`	`stephanb2`	`this is for a non-gaming desktop that can double as a PVR, and therefore has a silent case and silent cpu cooler`
`14:13.57`	`pie`	`Well, I can spend up to about £400 at a push (without monitor).`
`14:14.14`	`pie`	`This is for a work development machine, it will have 2Gb ram :)`
`14:15.01`	`stephanb2`	`pie: i would imagine my config could suit you. unless you do OpenGL stuff and u need fast graphics`
`14:15.44`	`pie`	`No, just 2d`
`14:16.36`	`Leeds`	`silence would be golden...`
`14:17.45`	`stephanb2`	`Leeds: it's not expensive if u build from scratch. u start with a silent case`
`14:18.32`	`stephanb2`	`pie: i intend to build around a GA-K8N51GMF-9 mobo`
`14:19.01`	`stephanb2`	`http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=3VZ4`
`14:19.52`	`stephanb2`	`Leeds: Antec Sonata II http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=3SPW`
`14:20.52`	`stephanb2`	`Leeds: CPU cooler Thermaltake golden orb`
`14:21.04`	`pie`	`Should I drop the ECC RAM, is it really necessary?`
`14:25.38`	`stephanb2`	`no idea bout this`
`14:27.17`	`pie`	`from #xorg: pie: works fine, although hardware acceleration of at least some r300 pci express chips doesn't work`
`14:27.23`	`pie`	`re: PCI-E`
`14:28.08`	`Leeds`	`I have a r300, and it's accelerated but slow`
`14:31.37`	`pie`	`slow 2d?`
`14:32.38`	`Leeds`	`nah, 2d is fine, and xvideo, which I care about, works well, except that I can't split it over 2 heads`
`14:33.49`	`pie`	`Hmmm, should I go for PCI-E? I just can't choose...`
`14:34.04`	`Leeds`	`do you care about 3d at all?`
`14:34.28`	`kbsingh`	`mozrat, xgl joy ?`
`14:35.16`	`pie`	`no`
`14:36.50`	`rhowe`	`hm, Jetty++`
`14:36.51`	`mozrat`	`kbsingh: not yet`
`14:37.00`	`mozrat`	`it relies on something in my regular xorg.conf`
`14:37.07`	`rhowe`	`7 minutes later, the website was updated :)`
`14:37.10`	`mozrat`	`I don't seem to be able to load the xgl module`
`14:38.43`	`Leeds`	`http://bugs.bitlbee.org/bitlbee/ticket/91`
`14:39.37`	`Leeds`	`to quote: "Bunch of fucking CUNTS."`
`14:40.31`	`mozrat`	`heh`
`14:41.31`	`rhowe`	`haha "BTW, just wondering, do you use Gentoo? :-)"`
`14:42.15`	`rhowe`	`"resolution set to id10t"`
`15:25.07`	`morsing`	`Check it!`
`15:29.14`	`stephanb2`	`pie: well yes it seems that apg is on the way out.`
`15:29.53`	`stephanb2`	`pie: my choice is video on the mobo (nvidia 6100 or 6150) + pci-e slot`
`15:30.06`	`stephanb2`	`pie: so u can upgrade the video if necessary`
`15:30.16`	`stephanb2`	`s/apg/agp`
`15:36.45`	`Leeds`	`my fingers smell`
`15:36.59`	`Leeds`	`in a good way...`
`15:37.31`	`Leeds`	`of guitar`
`15:38.48`	`Leeds`	`specifically, of metal-cased guitar string`
`15:42.18`	`Leeds`	`in the meantime, ever had the urge to order custom-packed 48-piece boxes of Yorkshire crisps? http://www.seabrookcrisps.com/orderform.htm`
`15:44.25`	`rhowe`	`"Please contact me regarding Seabrook Crisps news"`
`15:44.42`	`Leeds`	`absolutely`
`15:45.14`	`Leeds`	`bloody southerners wouldn't know a real Yorkshire crisp if it came up and "bit them"`
`15:47.24`	`Leeds`	`this is hilarious! http://www.digitalhome.plus.com/tube/sponsors.pdf`
`15:48.08`	`rhowe`	`heh`
`15:48.44`	`Leeds`	`one of the funniest things I've seen for ages!`
`15:49.27`	`rhowe`	`"Redkennington"`
`15:49.44`	`Leeds`	`"Portaloo & City - closed April-September 2006 for cleaning"`
`15:50.29`	`Leeds`	`"Channel 4ingdon"`
`15:50.41`	`rhowe`	`"Aldigate East"`
`15:51.35`	`rhowe`	`"B&Q Gardens" - heh`
`15:51.35`	`Leeds`	`I prefer "Marks & Spencery Lane" - better food`
`15:52.06`	`Leeds`	`"Shredded Wheatstone"`
`15:52.11`	`rhowe`	`"Canon Street" - d'oh`
`15:52.24`	`rhowe`	`"IBMbankment"`
`15:52.53`	`Leeds`	`for that matter, "St. John Lewis"`
`15:53.13`	`Leeds`	`"Actimel Town"`
`15:53.29`	`rhowe`	`"Rentokilburn Park"`
`15:53.47`	`Leeds`	`"WimbleDonkey Kong" and "WimbleDonkey Kong Country"`
`15:54.18`	`Leeds`	`and "South WimbleDonkey Konga"`
`15:54.21`	`Cope`	`eurgh`
`15:54.28`	`rhowe`	`"Weetabixton"`
`15:54.53`	`rhowe`	`haha "Kappam {Sount,North,Common}"`
`15:55.06`	`Leeds`	`"Diet Coke with Limehouse"`
`15:55.09`	`rhowe`	`"Dial-4-a-Loan Square"`
`15:55.14`	`Leeds`	`evening Cope :-)`
`15:55.30`	`rhowe`	`"iPoddington"`
`15:55.37`	`Cope`	`ello`
`15:55.46`	`Leeds`	`Cope: this really is rather funny`
`15:55.52`	`rhowe`	`"Baker's Complete"`
`15:55.57`	`Cope`	`Leeds: what is?`
`15:56.18`	`Leeds`	`Cope: the Tube, sponsored...`
`15:56.28`	`Leeds`	`http://www.digitalhome.plus.com/tube/sponsors.pdf`
`15:57.08`	`Erwin`	`Hehe. iPoddington.`
`15:57.35`	`Cope`	`hehe`
`15:58.09`	`Leeds`	`"MSNdon Central"`
`15:58.29`	`Cope`	`rhowe ----> #william`
`15:59.55`	`Cope`	`rather good`
`16:00.15`	`Cope`	`lol ivmbankment`
`16:00.24`	`Cope`	`s/vm/bm/`
`16:04.22`	`morsing`	`Check it!`
`16:04.45`	`Cope`	`morsing: thankfully, its still there and in one piece`
`16:06.11`	`pie`	`fap fap fap fap fap: ruby -e"puts eval('0b' + (1.to_s*31)).to_i"`
`16:10.14`	`stephanb2`	`so about booting on a usb drive with a bios that doesn't support usb booting...`
`16:11.01`	`Leeds`	`stephanb2: boot floppy/CD?`
`16:11.10`	`stephanb2`	`do i need the content of /boot to be on a cdrom or on an ide partition`
`16:11.29`	`stephanb2`	`+ a special initrd to support usb and usb-scsi`
`16:12.12`	`Leeds`	`in theory, I think you could get away with just a bootloader which speaks USB`
`16:12.25`	`Leeds`	`in practice, yes, the kernel/initrd is probably easier`
`16:12.57`	`stephanb2`	`Leeds: hmmm would grub do that?`
`16:13.23`	`stephanb2`	`i thought grub only saw the drives detected by the bios`
`16:13.30`	`pie`	`Hmmm, grub.`
`16:14.41`	`stephanb2`	`http://www.livefoodsdirect.co.uk/products.asp?dept=1047`
`16:14.58`	`pie`	`I am not going there...`
`16:15.20`	`stephanb2`	`it's not a medical website, it's not scary`
`16:16.38`	`mozrat`	`heh http://fishbowl.pastiche.org/2006/02/19/the_perils_of_metadata`
`16:16.41`	`pie`	`I suspect it has something to do with 'live', 'grubs', and 'food'.`
`16:16.44`	`stephanb2`	`this is more scary http://www.dfes.gov.uk/consultations/conResults.cfm?consultationId=1225`
`16:16.55`	`stephanb2`	`no pictures, only words`
`16:17.01`	`mozrat`	`spammer/hacker does interview with Washington Post on the condition they protect his anonymity`
`16:17.14`	`mozrat`	`they give the game away in the EXIF data of his photo`
`16:23.59`	`Cope`	`william waves.`
`16:26.07`	`mozrat`	`hi william!!`
`16:30.20`	`mozrat`	`cope - hello`
`16:30.22`	`mozrat`	`one sec`
`16:36.29`	`stephanb2`	`Leeds: but you do need a modified initrd to support usb don't you ?`
`16:37.38`	`Leeds`	`um, an initrd is just a filesystem image appended to your kernel so it's available at boot time from whatever medium you're using - you can put whatever you like in one`
`16:40.47`	`mozrat`	`nn Leeds`
`16:41.53`	`stephanb2`	`\|=----\| Leeds`
`16:46.32`	`Cope`	`\| o \|`
`17:01.00`	`Blapto`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:01.26`	`mozrat`	`\| o`
`17:01.43`	`mozrat`	`( Quiet day on teh mailing list today )`
`17:01.43`	`Blapto`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:01.45`	`Blapto`	`I give up.`
`17:06.04`	`pawel`	`\|-o-\|`
`17:06.12`	`pawel`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:06.17`	`pawel`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:06.27`	`stephanb2`	`playing ping with emoticons ?`
`17:06.32`	`stephanb2`	`s/ping/pong`
`17:06.32`	`mozrat`	`(Arghh = Tie fighters)`
`17:07.14`	`pawel`	`;>`
`17:08.21`	`pawel`	`btw. have you guys seen this one? http://electronic.idilis.ro/uploaded_images/tie_fighter_case_mod-740605.jpg`
`17:15.55`	`George`	`interesting`
`17:16.04`	`George`	`DNS has stopped working`
`17:16.08`	`George`	`ibot: nslookup google.com`
`17:20.05`	`stephanb2`	`cu guys l8r`
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`17:22.25`	`George`	`those weirdos at St Andrews have asked me if I want to apply for a scholarship for computer science`
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`17:59.40`	`George`	`my internet is being evil`
`18:15.30`	`mozrat`	`hometime`
`18:15.37`	`George`	`mooo!`
`18:15.38`	`George`	`hey mozrat`
`18:58.44`	`mozrat`	`hey George`
`18:58.55`	`George`	`hey`
`18:59.01`	`George`	`woo`
`18:59.25`	`mozrat`	`how is school?`
`18:59.30`	`George`	`boring as hell`
`19:00.02`	`mozrat`	`good. as expected then`
`19:00.52`	`George`	`moooo`
`19:07.32`	`mozrat`	`baaa`
`19:08.06`	`mozrat`	`George, i might dual boot with Gentoo - what is your advice?`
`19:08.18`	`George`	`mozrat: gentoo is FUCKING COOOOOL if you have a good cpu :P`
`19:08.43`	`mozrat`	`define good.... mine processes stuff`
`19:08.52`	`George`	`what do you want it for?`
`19:09.16`	`mozrat`	`dunno really`
`19:09.27`	`mozrat`	`i could either dualboot my laptop`
`19:09.36`	`mozrat`	`or on a spare box under my desk`
`19:09.59`	`George`	`I tend to prefer using Gentoo on slower systems`
`19:10.05`	`George`	`because I find it is a million times more responsive`
`19:10.09`	`George`	`but that may just be me :P`
`19:10.17`	`mozrat`	`but the spare box will just sit there doing nowt`
`19:10.24`	`George`	`my 667MHz PowerBook running Gentoo was more responsive than SuSE 9.1 on an Athlon XP 2700+`
`19:10.45`	`mozrat`	`anyway - that wasnt advice. it was a statement. what is your advice?`
`19:11.25`	`George`	`wellll`
`19:11.29`	`George`	`what sort of advice are you looking for?`
`19:11.53`	`mozrat`	`You're advice on using Gentoo!`
`19:12.01`	`mozrat`	`ummm`
`19:12.05`	`mozrat`	`your`
`19:12.11`	`George`	`HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA`
`19:12.17`	`George`	`way to go - highlight your retardedness :D`
`19:12.25`	`mozrat`	`yes :(`
`19:12.36`	`George`	`still on the district line?`
`19:12.39`	`mozrat`	`dammit`
`19:12.42`	`mozrat`	`yes`
`19:12.47`	`George`	`what station?`
`19:13.01`	`mozrat`	`Just gone past East Ham heading out of town`
`19:13.28`	`George`	`woo`
`19:13.41`	`mozrat`	`where the "downmarket" people live, geoRge :-)`
`19:13.49`	`mozrat`	`thanks /me hungry`
`19:13.52`	`George`	`heh`
`19:13.53`	`George`	`erm`
`19:13.54`	`George`	`anyway`
`19:13.57`	`George`	`Gentoo is fantastic`
`19:14.12`	`mozrat`	`^-- statement`
`19:14.57`	`mozrat`	`Is it a source based install or a binary install?`
`19:16.24`	`mozrat`	`stupid question, ignore that`
`19:16.47`	`George`	`what?`
`19:16.53`	`mozrat`	`how long does it take on your thinkpad?`
`19:17.05`	`George`	`erm`
`19:17.08`	`George`	`to install?`
`19:17.13`	`mozrat`	`yeah`
`19:17.33`	`George`	`2 days?`
`19:17.35`	`George`	`including kDE`
`19:17.37`	`George`	`KDE`
`19:17.46`	`mozrat`	`wow`
`19:26.05`	`Blapto`	`Gentoo...`
`19:26.09`	`Blapto`	`emerge foo --rice`
`19:27.13`	`George`	`Gentoo++`
`19:27.29`	`mozrat`	`DistrictLine--`
`19:27.35`	`Blapto`	`Oh god`
`19:27.38`	`Blapto`	`The district line sucks`
`19:27.52`	`Blapto`	`It's actually terrible.`
`19:28.00`	`mozrat`	`Blapto. I can confirm your statement`
`19:28.15`	`Blapto`	`I've been known to get off the line and bloody walk it instead.`
`19:28.42`	`Blapto`	`Especially around the kensington/olympia area. It's about 20 minutes to walk about 5 stops, yet takes the district line up to 30...`
`19:28.50`	`mozrat`	`the stations are a bit too spaced out for that this end`
`19:29.22`	`Blapto`	`Where are you`
`19:29.28`	`mozrat`	`anyway - my stop next.`
`19:29.32`	`Blapto`	`East Ham still, knowing the district line...`
`19:29.54`	`mozrat`	`Blapto, read the sidebar on beerandspeech.org`
`19:30.08`	`mozrat`	`bye everyone!!!!`
`19:30.17`	`Blapto`	`Bye`
`19:30.59`	`Blapto`	`The central line is fine`
`19:47.12`	`George`	`what is the cheapest fanless agp dual dvi nvidia graphics card there is? :)`
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`20:54.41`	`AndrewBlack`	`Has anyone noticed the British rail signs that have appeared on Google maps. How long have they been there`
`20:55.03`	`AndrewBlack`	`They mainly sem to be on Nat Rail stations taht are also tube stations.`
`21:26.09`	`George`	`mooo`
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`22:07.12`	`George`	`I CAN'T SEEEEEEEE`
`22:08.40`	`Blapto`	`Look in a mirror again, George`
`22:08.58`	`George`	`Blapto: I just looked into the flame of burning magnesium`
`22:09.08`	`Blapto`	`Silly boy.`
`22:09.11`	`George`	`:D`
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`23:48.21`	`mozrat`	`Good evening`
`23:49.30`	`George`	`moo`
`23:50.30`	`mozrat`	`oom`
`23:52.42`	`George`	`sleepy time`
`23:52.48`	`George`	`or rather, get-off-the-bloody-internet-time`
`23:52.50`	`George`	`byeeeeeeee`
`23:57.02`	`mozrat`	`nn`
`23:57.12`	`mozrat`	`Who is left to talk to?`
`23:57.20`	`mozrat`	`angelchild?`
`23:57.42`	`pawel`	`:-S`
`23:58.21`	`pawel`	`<?`
`23:58.24`	`pawel`	`die;`
`23:58.30`	`pawel`	`?>`

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