| 00:01.42 | djw | It only seems like five minutes ago when Leeds went to bed |
| 00:02.06 | rhowe | Ah, passport |
| 00:07.20 | wethrin | rhowe: :-) |
| 00:07.39 | Leeds | djw: dpm |
| 00:07.44 | Leeds | don't say things like that |
| 00:08.19 | wethrin | Leeds: Do you remember the metro closest to the Grand Place? |
| 00:08.42 | djw | Leeds: mmmm, it does mean I've not done anything whilst you've been sleeping |
| 00:10.25 | djw | it's also weird that I live near a city called Leeds too |
| 00:12.12 | Leeds | djw: uh, I think you'll find it's the same Leeds I'm nicked after |
| 00:12.23 | wethrin | rhowe: So from the London lot wanting the youth hostel, I've got new2unix, you, Henrik, pdr and formi. Yes? |
| 00:12.28 | wethrin | Plus Cope who can't come |
| 00:13.37 | djw | Leeds: yeah |
| 00:13.57 | Leeds | wethrin: Bourse, isn't it? from a quick look at the map... |
| 00:15.02 | Leeds | or possibly De Brouckere |
| 00:15.58 | rhowe | wethrin: You've got me, that's for sure |
| 00:16.00 | wethrin | Leeds: Thanks |
| 00:16.11 | wethrin | rhowe: I just checked. That is the London lot |
| 00:16.16 | wethrin | rhowe: You're driving with pdr, yes? |
| 00:16.18 | rhowe | wethrin: Yes |
| 00:16.40 | wethrin | Right. Give a shout when you get to Brussels |
| 00:16.47 | wethrin | Are you going to be heading straight to the hostel? |
| 00:16.49 | rhowe | wethrin: Willdo. I'll have my mobile on me |
| 00:17.06 | rhowe | wethrin: No idea.. I'll only have that smallish black bag with me, so no trouble to head straight to the pub :P |
| 00:17.51 | wethrin | rhowe: Yeah, but things about checking into the hostel |
| 00:18.49 | rhowe | wethrin: *nod* |
| 00:19.07 | rhowe | wethrin: I'll just follow the others :P |
| 00:19.19 | Leeds | y'all will think of me, stuck here in the tropics, with nothing but a week in Australia to look forward to, while you're out freezing bits off in Brussels, right? |
| 00:19.21 | rhowe | wethrin: I guess pdr'll drive straight to the hostel and find a parking space, but I dunno |
| 00:19.32 | rhowe | Leeds: Sure will - the snow last year was lovely |
| 00:19.40 | rhowe | Leeds: Even if I don't quite remember all of it |
| 00:20.47 | wethrin | Leeds: We will think of you |
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| 00:31.18 | djw | Leeds: where abouts from Leeds do you come from? |
| 00:32.41 | JAV | Solaris to Linux Migration: A Guide for System Administrators ---> IBM making friends |
| 00:32.46 | JAV | http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg247186.html?Open |
| 00:39.05 | Leeds | djw: Alwoodley, if you know it... |
| 00:41.15 | djw | Leeds: I knew where it is, just don't know it that well |
| 00:46.49 | Leeds | growisofs -use-the-force-luke=dao |
| 00:47.42 | wethrin | Okay. I have Funny-money, flight confirmation number, clothes, passport. What else do I need to take with me? |
| 00:49.11 | wethrin | Oh, I also have the hostel booking reference |
| 00:49.20 | Leeds | laptop? |
| 00:49.23 | wethrin | No |
| 00:49.30 | Leeds | phone |
| 00:49.30 | wethrin | I don't do that at Fosdem |
| 00:49.34 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 00:49.39 | wethrin | Never leave without it :) |
| 00:49.43 | Leeds | shoes? |
| 00:49.55 | wethrin | Will wear them tomorrow |
| 00:50.01 | djw | condoms |
| 00:50.18 | wethrin | Heh. |
| 00:50.27 | Leeds | you'll wear condoms tomorrow? |
| 00:50.27 | wethrin | Like that's gonna happen at Fosdem :-P |
| 00:50.40 | wethrin | Leeds: Most unlikely |
| 00:50.56 | Leeds | some hot Belgian chick with a thing for ivory-tower geeks? |
| 00:51.11 | wethrin | Hence I said 'most unlikely', rather than impossible |
| 00:51.12 | djw | yeah, you never know |
| 00:51.24 | djw | there might be some hardcore geek-groupies hanging around |
| 00:51.34 | Leeds | actually, I think I'd lean towards impossible... |
| 00:52.09 | wethrin | Ah, but surely Fosdem is a great place for meeting geeks? :) |
| 00:52.18 | Leeds | well, yes |
| 00:52.34 | djw | I think I've wasted most of today looking at geek girl websites |
| 00:52.50 | Leeds | uh... |
| 00:53.17 | wethrin | djw: At least one of them is going to be talking at Fosdem.... |
| 00:53.24 | djw | see! |
| 00:53.33 | djw | bet she already has a boyfriend though |
| 00:53.47 | wethrin | Probably. Although rumours were that she was single last year |
| 00:54.06 | djw | SINGLE! |
| 00:54.39 | wethrin | :-) |
| 00:55.44 | wethrin | Probably not for very long |
| 00:58.17 | djw | I don't know, these serial geek daters |
| 00:59.09 | George | night |
| 01:02.33 | wethrin | night George, you antisocial bastard |
| 01:02.36 | wethrin | :) |
| 01:20.03 | wethrin | night all |
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| 01:51.07 | JAV | night |
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| 02:22.55 | z00dax | LeedsHK, know if the eurostar has plugpoints for laptops ? |
| 02:24.22 | Erwin | I'm pretty sure the Leisure section did.. though I was busy drinking champagne :-) |
| 02:24.50 | z00dax | humm i got those tickets for the way back, but on the way out - think its cattle class |
| 02:25.46 | z00dax | zzzzzzzzzzz |
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| 06:52.19 | morsing | ping Cope or z00dax |
| 06:52.43 | murb | moin |
| 06:52.52 | murb | morsing: will you be in the pub this evening? |
| 06:54.07 | morsing | murb: |
| 06:54.09 | morsing | Yes |
| 06:54.20 | morsing | Is z00dax awake yet? |
| 06:54.24 | morsing | I overslept |
| 06:54.39 | morsing | Had to book new ticket. 149 pounds :-( |
| 06:55.17 | murb | morsing: eurostar? |
| 06:55.43 | morsing | Yes |
| 06:56.02 | morsing | Cope |
| 06:56.03 | morsing | ? |
| 06:57.00 | murb | morsing: any chance you could pop into a supermarket etc, and collect some PG tips loose leaf tea before you leave? |
| 06:57.33 | morsing | murb: I'll try |
| 06:57.39 | morsing | loose leaf tea?!? |
| 06:57.46 | morsing | Not Earl Grey? |
| 06:58.30 | murb | not earl grey |
| 06:58.41 | murb | as in pg tips tea leaves. |
| 07:18.57 | morsing | Are you the only one here? |
| 07:28.02 | morsing | Hello? |
| 07:29.50 | popey | moo |
| 07:29.57 | pawel | :> |
| 07:30.04 | pawel | morning. |
| 07:33.22 | murb | i'm here. |
| 07:37.01 | morsing | Can someone get a message to kbsingh for me please? |
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| 08:26.37 | mozrat | Morning |
| 08:34.30 | highbury | morning! |
| 08:39.16 | gregj | too many Poles, ha ? |
| 08:39.17 | gregj | ;) |
| 08:39.54 | George | hey |
| 08:40.10 | mozrat | highbury: moving is stressful |
| 08:40.17 | George | hey mozrat |
| 08:40.19 | George | moving-- |
| 08:40.21 | mozrat | hey George |
| 08:40.55 | George | note to self: don't send emails at 1am |
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| 09:40.26 | Leeds | bah, all going to Brussels and leaving me here all alone |
| 09:41.46 | Cope | i am here |
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| 09:47.02 | Leeds | they were in Canadia, they saw a Mac, they liked, today is a birthday, we bought, I installed, they gaped |
| 09:48.18 | stephanb2 | And they are now happy with Fedora PPC on a (non-intel) mac mini :-) |
| 09:49.32 | Leeds | nope, they're learning to be happy with MacOS on an Intel iMac |
| 09:50.27 | stephanb2 | oh they should b able to cope with that |
| 09:51.32 | stephanb2 | i imagine OS-X on Intel is as buggy as the first PPC release ? |
| 09:54.40 | Leeds | seems to work rather well |
| 09:54.59 | rhowe | Leeds: I didn't realise they were already shipping x86 boxes |
| 09:55.36 | Leeds | yeah, the iMacs went out a few weeks ago, and the the first PentiumBooks went out this week |
| 09:56.30 | Leeds | and for the record, Front Row - the going-to-be-a-media-player-when-they-finish-it thing - is pretty nice and very gape-inspiring |
| 09:57.47 | Leeds | not sure when it was on, but did anyone see this Dawkins anti-religion show? |
| 09:58.42 | rhowe | I saw a trailer for it a while back |
| 09:58.45 | rhowe | Channel 4, right? |
| 09:59.25 | Leeds | dunno - doesn't make much of a difference to me ;-) seems like ch4 or bbc2+ though |
| 09:59.42 | stephanb2 | Leeds: well apple needs to polish Front Row in order to start selling movies on the iTunes Music Store, innit ? |
| 10:00.06 | Leeds | stephanb2: right |
| 10:00.12 | stephanb2 | are there no Intel Mac minis ? |
| 10:00.46 | Leeds | "Isn't this the beginning of that slippery slope which leads to young men with rucksacks blowing themselves up on the Tube?" |
| 10:00.51 | Leeds | not until next week, no |
| 10:01.38 | stephanb2 | Leeds: next week come the young men in rucksacks, or the mac minis ? ;-) |
| 10:02.01 | Leeds | mac minis, I hope |
| 10:02.33 | Leeds | this program is *very* anti-religion... I saw it referenced online as something which couldn't be shown in the US |
| 10:03.04 | stephanb2 | Leeds: do mac minis use laptop hard drives ? |
| 10:03.46 | Leeds | at the moment they do |
| 10:04.12 | Leeds | there isn't really space for a 3.5inch drive |
| 10:04.49 | stephanb2 | hmm, so drive performance is more sluggish than on a normal desktop :-( |
| 10:05.03 | Leeds | yes... |
| 10:06.54 | gregj | mac mini sux |
| 10:07.08 | gregj | I have one, and have to admit this is piece of sluggish poo |
| 10:07.16 | rhowe | Laptop drives tend not to be specced for continuous operation, either |
| 10:07.21 | gregj | not even that |
| 10:07.27 | gregj | it is based on eMac board |
| 10:07.39 | gregj | so the memory is slower, and the whole "chipset" thing is |
| 10:07.41 | Leeds | I have one and I'm pretty happy with it |
| 10:07.50 | Leeds | as a headless machine |
| 10:07.59 | gregj | as long as you put 1GB of ram in it, it's fine |
| 10:08.11 | gregj | and what drives me insane is lack of audio input and midi |
| 10:08.18 | gregj | I have to use external card |
| 10:08.36 | gregj | I dream about iMac |
| 10:08.45 | gregj | but my goldsack is empty for now |
| 10:10.27 | Leeds | I gave it a bunch of swap and I don't run heavy stuff on it... vpn, bt, ssh mainly |
| 10:11.20 | gregj | I have apple mail, iTunes, safari, and garageband quite often |
| 10:11.33 | gregj | for the latter to behave propertly I have to shut down all others first |
| 10:11.44 | gregj | but I only have 512MB for now, need to feed it with 1G |
| 10:11.46 | Leeds | oh, I don't run MacOS on mine |
| 10:12.12 | gregj | :) |
| 10:12.12 | Leeds | never intended to - I run slackintosh on it |
| 10:12.25 | gregj | I am happy with mac os x |
| 10:12.31 | gregj | and I am running linux on my PC laptop |
| 10:12.49 | gregj | I have mail and music on one, and development on linux |
| 10:13.07 | gregj | althrough I am working on Cocoa software now, so I need mac os x for development too |
| 10:13.30 | gregj | Leeds: any chance you can give a spin on my little example apps, that are universal binaries on intel mac ? |
| 10:13.41 | gregj | I bet they will work, but just don't have intel mac to try |
| 10:15.03 | Leeds | possibly |
| 10:15.58 | gregj | http://gj.pointblue.com.pl/projects/theStrlen.app.zip http://gj.pointblue.com.pl/projects/socketsTest.app.zip |
| 10:16.01 | gregj | ;] |
| 10:16.03 | Cope | rhowe: any joy with flights? Don't want to duplicate your inquiries! |
| 10:16.22 | Leeds | can't do it now - Sunday, maybe... email me the links |
| 10:17.21 | Leeds | to gmail |
| 10:17.46 | gregj | it's nothing that important, I thought you have those iMacs somewhere near now |
| 10:18.31 | Leeds | nah, I'm at home, it's at the cousins' |
| 10:24.53 | Leeds | this is great - Dawkins attacking an American nutter preacher, who is trying to tell him there are people who know more about evolution than he does... |
| 10:29.29 | Leeds | hmm... Google, Apple, Wikipedia, BBC onscreen in quick succession |
| 10:29.52 | stephanb2 | Leeds: u run slackintosh on a PPC mac mini coz it's faster than OSx i presume ? |
| 10:30.52 | z00dax | <-- is *also* not on the train! |
| 10:30.54 | z00dax | I am at a client site, something came up last night and I've had to come into work today for a few hours |
| 10:31.20 | Cope | annoyin |
| 10:31.20 | Cope | g |
| 10:31.24 | z00dax | I am now on the 17:29 out from Ashford later today |
| 10:31.44 | z00dax | Cope, work pays for new ticket. but yes - I was hoping for the extra time in brusseles |
| 10:32.01 | z00dax | Cope, thanks for the msg earlier |
| 10:32.26 | Leeds | stephanb2: because I don't need any of the MacOS, but I like slackware |
| 10:34.12 | Cope | "but its unix!" |
| 10:34.24 | SlayerXP | there's certainly no _technical_ reason to use osx |
| 10:34.45 | Cope | "but its pretty!" |
| 10:35.09 | stephanb2 | Cope: i dont find macs "cool". I find them style over substance, like Bang and Olufsen. |
| 10:35.28 | Cope | skugg has advanced the best 'its the best tool for the job' arguments so far |
| 10:35.28 | z00dax | Cope, I use Mac's - but I run Linux on them |
| 10:35.48 | Cope | I use whatever is lying around |
| 10:36.06 | Cope | which atm is an old ultra 10, an old dell, and a thinkpad |
| 10:36.10 | SlayerXP | z00dax: you use Mac's _what_ ? |
| 10:36.39 | z00dax | SlayerXP, :) machines... |
| 10:36.47 | SlayerXP | does he know? |
| 10:37.15 | z00dax | cant afford to fork out for an openpower 720 or something such, so the PowerMac's my ppc platform |
| 10:37.48 | SlayerXP | explain select count(*),to_char(timestamp 'now' - interval '1 week','HH24:MI:SS, FMDay, FMMon FMDDth, YYYY') from abdata where source='kunnskapsparken' and to_domain='hinterlands.org' and is_spam and is_infected is false and time_in >= timestamp 'now' - interval '1 week'; |
| 10:38.00 | SlayerXP | errr, this isn't my postgres console |
| 10:38.12 | SlayerXP | nevertheless, kindly explain why that query hogs. |
| 10:38.13 | z00dax | am waiting for the intel based powermac's to make an entry, then will go and get me a nice juicy PowerMac G5... and maybe wont need to pay the Apple brand premium then |
| 10:39.13 | stephanb2 | yes they are "pretty", but as I see them as mostly "locked" machines I don't see myself buying any soon |
| 10:40.01 | SlayerXP | i seem them as mostly being bought by the same idiots who get fooled into buying dell kit |
| 10:40.47 | SlayerXP | the end result being amusing for the rest of us: idiots having their wallets emptied in exchange for underpowered overpriced tat |
| 10:40.56 | z00dax | stephanb2, if you can get them at a decent price - they are very well built machines and performance is also very good |
| 10:41.19 | z00dax | I have a dual opteron 1.8Ghz machine and a dual G5 2.0Ghz machine sitting on my desktop at work ( well, my workstations ) |
| 10:41.56 | z00dax | and performance is very similar for most of the jobs - in some cases the G5 makes the opteron look like a wannabe |
| 10:43.00 | z00dax | although, if it was a 'general purpose computer desktop' for anyone doing most usual stuff, I'd opt for the opteron mostly |
| 10:46.11 | z00dax | I'd like to say 'sits in the corner humming away' ... but its more like.. sits in the corner 'thundering' away |
| 10:47.43 | stephanb2 | why do i have the *illusion* that dell is value-for-money and apple is high-street fashion rip-off ? |
| 10:48.44 | z00dax | thats kinda like BrandEquity and USP coming together for you |
| 10:49.06 | z00dax | dell isnt really value for money beyond the lower end spectrum |
| 10:49.38 | z00dax | Apple, however, does like to be seen as a high street sort of brand - which will ( like sony ) charge a brand premium |
| 10:50.27 | stephanb2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:50.35 | stephanb2 | s/tem/them |
| 10:51.13 | z00dax | stephanb2, cloned h/w ? the only other company I've ever heard of doing that was pegasos - and i think they are still doing G4 based machines |
| 10:51.40 | stephanb2 | no, in the days of G2 PPC, we bought 2 Umax clones |
| 10:51.42 | z00dax | personally - i think Apple is wanting to go down the route of a consumer electronics company and be just that |
| 10:51.53 | z00dax | ah, i remember umax now. |
| 10:52.01 | mozrat | morning z00dax |
| 10:52.07 | stephanb2 | well they will succed where M$ is desperate to go |
| 10:52.09 | mozrat | and everyone |
| 10:52.09 | z00dax | heya mozrat |
| 10:52.54 | stephanb2 | also isnt apple now in the business of selling music and soon movies, and devices to listen/watch them |
| 10:53.20 | stephanb2 | hey mozrat |
| 10:54.57 | mozrat | heyho |
| 10:58.54 | stephanb2 | executive summary: leeds buys imac 4 his cousins. performance of mac mini. generic discussion on the merits of dell and apple hardware. |
| 11:02.06 | SlayerXP | you forgot "slayer points and laughs at those how buy mac/dell hardware" |
| 11:02.09 | SlayerXP | who |
| 11:04.26 | stephanb2 | right sorry SlayerXP |
| 11:04.44 | z00dax | http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0037 |
| 11:04.46 | z00dax | hummm |
| 11:05.01 | SlayerXP | it's warmer here in norway |
| 11:05.17 | stephanb2 | fyi my next machine is planned to be a homebuilt Athlon64 / Gigabyte mobo |
| 11:05.29 | z00dax | SlayerXP, while I've never really been a dell fan ( have 1 dell machine ) - they do seem to sell a lot of machines |
| 11:05.44 | stephanb2 | z00dax: already finished plugging those 24 drives :-o |
| 11:05.51 | z00dax | stephanb2, what chipset ? if you plan on using sata raid etc, make sure it works |
| 11:06.17 | z00dax | stephanb2, taking a break |
| 11:06.59 | z00dax | I demand a PFY |
| 11:08.16 | stephanb2 | z00dax: no i plan to use onboard sound, video and usb. Chipset nVidia nForce430, graphics nVidia 6100 |
| 11:08.56 | z00dax | should mostly work, you might want the livna.org's nvidia drivers - or just get them from nvidia directly |
| 11:09.45 | stephanb2 | so far i have had a very good experience building nvidia modules from their source |
| 11:14.30 | z00dax | here is an interesting one - maybe someone can shed some light |
| 11:14.43 | z00dax | If I run a mailing list - do i then need to be registered with the DPR ? |
| 11:14.53 | z00dax | or is an Email Addy not the same as a Postal addy ? |
| 11:19.20 | SlayerXP | you don't |
| 11:19.56 | SlayerXP | the DPR is only required if you will expose your customer data in such a way that a cusomter could be identified |
| 11:19.59 | SlayerXP | you are not. |
| 11:20.14 | George | BLARGH |
| 11:20.29 | Erwin | So, don't put everyone's email on one big CC list :-) |
| 11:20.37 | SlayerXP | basically. |
| 11:21.18 | z00dax | so i can actually 'rent' this info without needing a dpr id ? |
| 11:21.45 | z00dax | I know most people's names and their email addy - and hey - *everyone* wants to know about v14gr4 right ? |
| 11:34.02 | eye69 | rhowe: Just read about the Verify job type in Bacula. Very useful. |
| 11:46.12 | Marios_ | does anybody have a web multiple schema XML validator ? |
| 11:47.33 | George | anyon/win 32 |
| 11:47.34 | George | woops. |
| 11:48.35 | stephanb2 | George: i don't have cyrillic characters installed on this machine |
| 11:48.36 | z00dax | George, ? |
| 11:48.47 | George | z00dax: yo |
| 11:48.55 | z00dax | sun giving away niagra boxen . humm |
| 11:52.09 | Erwin | Useful only if you have 32 simultanous threads on your fat java app |
| 11:52.38 | Erwin | Otherwise... that 8-core processor runs at a feeble speed |
| 11:52.41 | z00dax | Erwin, might make gentoo usable |
| 11:52.59 | z00dax | emerge world with -j32 |
| 11:53.01 | Erwin | I'm not sure if a 32-way compile would be much good :) |
| 11:53.12 | stephanb2 | guys i have a question |
| 11:53.21 | z00dax | lots of bigass crap like OOo1.1.2 does not even like -j2 |
| 11:53.50 | stephanb2 | i would like to write an old-school (2d limited colours) pinball game |
| 11:54.02 | stephanb2 | is java a good platform for this? |
| 11:54.26 | z00dax | I can safely tell you that prolog is not very good for this sort of an app |
| 11:54.37 | stephanb2 | :-D |
| 11:54.57 | stephanb2 | oh I was dabbling between Lisp, Pascal and Ada |
| 11:55.13 | z00dax | (lisp)++ |
| 11:55.19 | z00dax | or even better (smalltalk)++ |
| 11:55.29 | z00dax | but in this case, we'll let you get away with Java |
| 11:55.58 | Erwin | ITYM (+ 'lisp 1) |
| 11:56.01 | stephanb2 | will java play some sound ? |
| 11:58.12 | Erwin | Windows insists on setting my clock to non-GMT but time with DST.. every time I boot to Windows and return to Linux it's one hour ahead. Any idea how I can fix that? |
| 11:58.23 | George | gentoo is fantastic |
| 11:58.35 | z00dax | Erwin, stop using winduze |
| 11:58.51 | z00dax | I bet that fix's the problem |
| 11:59.17 | z00dax | faster.. faster.. faster... |
| 11:59.26 | Erwin | No, I'm not going to stop playing World of Warcraft :) |
| 11:59.59 | z00dax | is there no linux client as yet ? |
| 12:00.22 | Erwin | Hmm, I installed ntp-server but it seems it didn't run at start |
| 12:00.28 | Erwin | Or maybe it doesn't like the time being off by 1 hour |
| 12:02.15 | Erwin | And I have UTC=no in my /etc/default/rcS. Hmm. |
| 12:06.15 | z00dax | damn |
| 12:06.41 | z00dax | this backup is going to take another 2 hrs, which means i wont make the fosdem train |
| 12:36.36 | z00dax | awrite, i am off - l8r all |
| 12:39.23 | gregj | l8r aligater |
| 12:41.55 | George | anyone here good at maths? |
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| 12:44.34 | zachary | moin/afternoon |
| 12:45.25 | mozrat | Yes, George *YOU* are good at maths, seeing as you study it |
| 12:45.27 | mozrat | hey zachary |
| 12:45.32 | George | mozrat: shush |
| 12:45.40 | George | mozrat: I can't integrate (x^2 + 4)^(1/2) |
| 12:46.14 | mozrat | George: are you using open source or closed drivers for your Thinkpad ATI card? |
| 12:46.53 | George | mozrat: closed |
| 12:46.54 | George | mozrat: beta |
| 12:47.11 | mikejw | hmm beta eh |
| 12:47.19 | George | 8.23.03 |
| 12:47.37 | mozrat | ok |
| 12:47.42 | George | and I'm under NDA so probably can't tell you much more |
| 12:47.59 | mozrat | I don't need to (want to) know any more |
| 12:48.03 | George | :P |
| 13:18.52 | stephanb2 | back from lunch |
| 13:34.14 | stephanb2 | George: that's something using the fundamental theorem. ive forgotten about all this |
| 13:37.41 | mozrat | How can I tell if glx is loaded correctly? |
| 13:38.59 | mozrat | http://pastebin.com/570214 << glxinfo and Xorg.0.log |
| 13:39.16 | mozrat | it appears to be but I'm getting messages saying it isn't |
| 13:39.24 | mozrat | and I get fairly slow FPS in glxgears |
| 14:00.40 | George | ok, it was done by substituting x=2cosht |
| 14:00.50 | George | you all are useless |
| 14:05.03 | George | sausages are cool |
| 14:05.38 | mozrat | Cope! |
| 14:05.43 | mozrat | George: glx? |
| 14:05.53 | George | glx? |
| 14:05.55 | George | what about it? |
| 14:06.01 | mozrat | help me |
| 14:06.05 | mozrat | Leeds! hello |
| 14:06.09 | Leeds | mozrat! |
| 14:07.14 | Leeds | mozrat: you would appear to be using accelerated GL, but with 18-month-old drivers |
| 14:07.30 | mozrat | Leeds, oh |
| 14:07.31 | Leeds | and with AGP 1x |
| 14:07.39 | mozrat | oh (again) |
| 14:07.55 | mozrat | I'm using stock SUSE10 packages |
| 14:08.04 | Leeds | may or may not help |
| 14:09.05 | George | mozrat: ok... |
| 14:13.33 | Leeds | can I be bothered to go out again this evening? |
| 14:14.01 | mozrat | Leeds, no |
| 14:14.31 | George | there's an 'out'? |
| 14:15.00 | Leeds | there is an out... I've been there once this evening, I was there last night, I'll be there tomorrow night... |
| 14:28.12 | mozrat | ok - so epoch is the number of seconds since 1/1/70... |
| 14:28.18 | mozrat | what is this time called http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/adschema/adschema/a_pwdlastset.asp |
| 14:28.30 | mozrat | This value is stored as a large integer that represents the number of 100 nanosecond intervals since January 1, 1601 (UTC). |
| 14:29.04 | Cope | mozrat: how odd |
| 14:29.13 | mozrat | Cope, very strange |
| 14:29.18 | Cope | something someone made up in the pub |
| 14:29.50 | mozrat | of course some lovely person has written a Python function for this already |
| 14:29.55 | mozrat | http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/ActivePython/2.2/PyWin32/html/com/help/active_directory.html |
| 14:30.04 | Blapto | Hi |
| 14:30.06 | mozrat | so - I don't really care - but it is a strange one |
| 14:30.07 | mozrat | hi Blapto |
| 14:30.15 | Blapto | mozrat |
| 14:34.02 | George | join the club |
| 14:34.24 | mozrat | We have 2 tyres and an exhaust |
| 14:34.27 | Blapto | his big. |
| 14:34.29 | Blapto | his bag |
| 14:34.31 | Blapto | That tired! |
| 14:34.44 | Blapto | Got to school, 0840, "Shit. forgot my bag." |
| 14:34.57 | Blapto | 0950 it sinks in "SHIT! My bag has things in it that I might need!" |
| 14:35.05 | George | haha school. |
| 14:37.11 | Blapto | As do I, I left a good hour ago |
| 14:37.19 | Cope | forever? |
| 14:37.25 | Blapto | Nope |
| 14:37.33 | Blapto | But I don't actually remember what I did today. |
| 14:38.00 | Blapto | Except being shook awake in physics, murming something about flux and electromotive force and falling back asleep again |
| 14:54.03 | Leeds | ah, no work tomorrow (shopping and karaoke) and some decent nightlife... going down to the pub in a few minutes in Wanchai (one of the nightlife districts) |
| 14:54.20 | Blapto | Karaoke/ |
| 14:54.34 | Leeds | it's a birthday party |
| 14:54.48 | Blapto | Ah, ok |
| 14:55.06 | Leeds | the girl I fell out with last week who apparently isn't bothered enough about it that she doesn't want me at her birthday party |
| 14:55.14 | mozrat | thats good |
| 14:55.35 | Leeds | yup |
| 14:55.55 | Leeds | although my nasty side keeps making noises like "that's because she's got a goldfish memory" |
| 14:56.16 | mozrat | Grrrrr - just had an autodialer offering me a holiday to Florida and then an argument when I got through to a human |
| 14:56.25 | mozrat | "Can I speak to your manager?" |
| 14:56.32 | mozrat | "I *AM* a manager, sir" |
| 14:56.37 | mozrat | fscker |
| 14:56.50 | Leeds | are you on TPS? |
| 14:56.58 | mozrat | Leeds, I'm at work |
| 14:57.08 | mozrat | it has never happened before |
| 14:57.52 | Leeds | ah, TPS doesn't apply to non-residential lines, AFAIK |
| 14:59.28 | mozrat | I can't believe he asked to speak to my manager - cheeky sod |
| 14:59.35 | mozrat | :) |
| 15:09.13 | Cope | mozrat: you are a manager? |
| 15:09.18 | Cope | shhh |
| 15:09.23 | mozrat | Cope, no. I asked that to him |
| 15:09.43 | mozrat | I was being silly |
| 15:09.56 | mozrat | he is a manager of an autodialling spamming company in Florida |
| 15:10.02 | Cope | ah |
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| 15:15.29 | Cope | yay wethrin |
| 15:30.19 | mozrat | why? |
| 15:30.28 | Cope | wethrin isn't really here |
| 15:30.37 | mozrat | ah yeah |
| 15:30.42 | Cope | :`( |
| 15:30.49 | mozrat | is he not travelling to FOSDEM |
| 15:30.53 | Cope | he is |
| 15:38.50 | *** join/#gllug Erwin (n=erwin@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Erwin) |
| 15:39.37 | Cope | A fake grandmother clock, the time reads 3:38 pm. |
| 15:42.48 | *** join/#gllug angelchild (n=Catalyst@jamesmorse.plus.com) |
| 15:42.56 | Blapto | lo angelchild |
| 15:43.09 | angelchild | hiya :) |
| 15:43.14 | mozrat | hey |
| 15:43.18 | Blapto | I waited last night... |
| 15:43.20 | Blapto | :( |
| 15:44.04 | angelchild | sorry, you didn't give me an address :) |
| 15:44.07 | angelchild | plus like |
| 15:44.10 | Blapto | Wooops |
| 15:44.10 | angelchild | my bed was closer |
| 15:44.13 | Blapto | Ah, true |
| 15:44.23 | mozrat | wow - what did I miss last night? |
| 15:44.32 | Blapto | Cross dressing |
| 15:44.33 | Blapto | Flirting |
| 15:44.34 | Blapto | the works! |
| 15:44.36 | Cope | tart |
| 15:44.37 | angelchild | :D |
| 15:44.56 | Cope | bet you did v.well! |
| 15:44.58 | Blapto | I take it you did well |
| 15:48.27 | angelchild | 85% average :) |
| 15:48.28 | Cope | Blapto do you also live nr angelchild |
| 15:48.36 | Cope | angelchild: I think 85% is better than average |
| 15:48.54 | Cope | \o/ |
| 15:49.12 | stephanb2 | well done anglechild |
| 15:49.25 | Cope | George would never let his average dip into the 90s. |
| 15:49.41 | Cope | stephanb2: difficult stuff |
| 15:49.48 | Cope | angelchild is v.clever. |
| 15:50.23 | Cope | You look at your watch and discover that its 3:50 pm. |
| 15:50.27 | stephanb2 | mass spectrometry and phase change chromatography ? |
| 15:50.33 | Cope | nah that's easy |
| 15:51.00 | *** join/#gllug murb (n=murbix@blue.danu.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 15:51.52 | Cope | Passengers' overall satisfaction has jumped six per cent, from last spring, to 84%. |
| 15:51.53 | angelchild | Computational Systems (functional programming - scheme) - 91%, Human Computer Interaction - 82%, Software Analysis and Design - 75%, Compiler Engineering - 81%, Intelligent Algorithms - 95%, Operating systems... not in yet. Because the lecturer is a bit crazy (also my tutor O_o) |
| 15:52.12 | Cope | angelchild: isn't "human computer interaction" just irc? |
| 15:52.34 | Cope | boo, software analysis and design needs a resit |
| 15:52.45 | angelchild | more about the physical interfaces to systems, use of different colours, concepts on screen interfaces, etc |
| 15:52.53 | Cope | sounds v.dull |
| 15:52.59 | angelchild | well, SAD was a 50% exam, 50% group coursework thing |
| 15:53.03 | Cope | ah |
| 15:53.09 | Cope | did you have crap people in your team? |
| 15:53.15 | angelchild | Cope: it's actually quite interesting (well, I think so), though the lecturer was dull |
| 15:53.33 | angelchild | no, i just don't think we understood quite what we were doing :) though our group coursework for this semester is going really really well |
| 15:53.41 | Cope | yay |
| 15:53.50 | angelchild | well, HCI is mostly psychology as much as anything else :) |
| 15:53.57 | Cope | someone please teleport me home |
| 15:54.02 | Cope | i just want to be home |
| 15:54.05 | Cope | that's all i want |
| 15:55.36 | stephanb2 | please someone enlighten me |
| 15:55.48 | stephanb2 | i just want to be enlightened |
| 15:55.55 | stephanb2 | that's all i want |
| 15:58.28 | Blapto | Cope, i don't even know where you and angelchild are! |
| 16:00.26 | Cope | in the shower |
| 16:00.32 | Blapto | Cunning |
| 16:00.34 | Cope | with waterproof irc-ing kit |
| 16:00.47 | angelchild | ^ |
| 16:00.58 | stephanb2 | like those gorgeous toshiba toughbooks used by british gas |
| 16:02.11 | Cope | hrm |
| 16:02.23 | Cope | 1st of March is pretty late for a 'happy new year' drink |
| 16:02.38 | stephanb2 | even for the chinese new year ;-) |
| 16:02.41 | angelchild | Blapto: southampton actually ;p |
| 16:03.16 | Cope | indeed |
| 16:03.48 | Cope | s/in/ing/ |
| 16:03.51 | Cope | twat |
| 16:04.20 | stephanb2 | no dringk |
| 16:04.51 | Cope | and hand cream |
| 16:05.54 | mozrat | angelchild: call an emergency GLLUG social |
| 16:06.05 | angelchild | hehe, I'm going home to my parents actually :) |
| 16:06.05 | Blapto | I'll be there |
| 16:06.20 | Blapto | Just came from there... |
| 16:06.32 | mozrat | afk |
| 16:06.45 | angelchild | eh |
| 16:08.12 | George | DIE ANGELCHILD DIE |
| 16:08.44 | Blapto | oh god |
| 16:08.47 | Blapto | Here we go |
| 16:08.54 | angelchild | you're late George |
| 16:09.21 | George | you're retarded, which is derived from the French for late. |
| 16:09.22 | George | HAH |
| 16:09.33 | Cope | astonishing |
| 16:09.36 | angelchild | yes, you are :) |
| 16:10.14 | George | YOU SUCK |
| 16:11.08 | angelchild | you blow |
| 16:11.17 | George | and you're FEMALE |
| 16:11.57 | George | time for a further maths test |
| 16:11.58 | George | byeeeeeeee |
| 16:12.03 | George | love you all (except angelchild) |
| 16:12.15 | angelchild | good luck! (you'll need it) |
| 16:13.54 | Cope | George is still on children's maths |
| 16:14.33 | Cope | he can't integrate (x^2 + 4)^(1/2) |
| 16:14.45 | angelchild | awww |
| 16:14.59 | angelchild | what about double integration? :) |
| 16:15.53 | Cope | structural analysis, you understand |
| 16:15.57 | Cope | civil engineering |
| 16:16.07 | stephanb2 | meaning the integration |
| 16:16.22 | Cope | ibot stephanb2 |
| 16:16.52 | Cope | ibot stephanb2 is getting old and can't get an erection any more |
| 16:16.55 | ibot | Cope: okay |
| 16:16.56 | stephanb2 | ya i understand. stress, deformation, is it in tension or in compression... |
| 16:17.20 | Cope | ~stephanb2 |
| 16:17.22 | ibot | stephanb2 is probably getting old and can't get an erection any more |
| 16:17.26 | stephanb2 | :-D |
| 16:18.11 | Cope | 6 minutes till i leave |
| 16:18.16 | Cope | see if i can catch the 1705 |
| 16:18.50 | Cope | angelchild: are your results out just because your dept has published results, or are all uni results out simultaneously? |
| 16:20.13 | *** join/#gllug wethrin (i=dankolb@ipv6.eco.li) |
| 16:20.30 | angelchild | Cope: they've just got round to releasing them |
| 16:22.48 | Cope | home |
| 16:23.00 | Cope | ttfnetchandbrbfoad |
| 16:23.36 | angelchild | what an acronym |
| 16:24.11 | Erwin | I think it's the name of a town in Wales. |
| 16:24.43 | Blapto | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.58 | Blapto | I think that's in the A level spec... |
| 16:25.12 | angelchild | chain rule for the win |
| 16:25.34 | angelchild | sort of |
| 16:25.57 | Blapto | Yeah, that's chain rule |
| 16:26.30 | Blapto | -x(x^2+4)^-(1/2) |
| 16:26.32 | Blapto | Or something |
| 16:29.24 | stephanb2 | int (a^2 - x^2)^1/2 dx = (1/2) [a^2 arcsin (x/a) + x (a^2 - x^2)^1/2] + C |
| 16:30.08 | stephanb2 | http://www.alcyone.com/max/reference/maths/integrals.html |
| 16:30.14 | Blapto | ah, I read differentiate |
| 16:30.40 | stephanb2 | differentiate feels easier to me |
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| 16:34.20 | Blapto | It is, it's lovely |
| 16:34.45 | Blapto | A2 maths: put a 2 down before the bracket, and cross out that two. (5 marks) |
| 16:47.10 | *** part/#gllug zachary (n=zachary@ip68-228-134-15.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 16:48.09 | Blapto | Just bought an SSL cert. |
| 16:48.12 | Blapto | I feel dirty. |
| 16:58.12 | *** part/#gllug stephanb2 (n=chatzill@64.236.9.165) |
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| 17:00.31 | z00-mobile | Hello |
| 17:03.33 | *** join/#gllug z00-mobile (n=kbs@212.183.134.66) |
| 17:06.58 | z00-mobile | Not a lot of people around |
| 17:21.30 | *** join/#gllug ldnblk (n=ldnblk@host217-34-122-211.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 17:21.36 | mozrat | hey ldnblk |
| 17:21.39 | mozrat | how are you? |
| 17:22.37 | ldnblk | hi there mozrat guess what ? I am now surffing the internet via linux |
| 17:23.17 | ldnblk | I am fine thanx I am now looking to get that lives application up and working. |
| 17:24.16 | mozrat | yay |
| 17:24.20 | mozrat | that's excellent |
| 17:24.23 | ldnblk | I down loaded the asterisk@home application but I have not yet had time to evaluate it yet, its definitely on my list of things to do |
| 17:24.34 | mozrat | good |
| 17:27.17 | mozrat | did you get the regular Asterisk@Home or the VMWare one? |
| 17:27.40 | mozrat | it would be good to play with it in VMWare before you install it - research the config options etc |
| 17:29.19 | ldnblk | I got the regular Asterisk@home , and yes I agree with you it is better that I mess around with the vmware one but I did not see a vmware version on the site that I went to ! |
| 17:30.33 | mozrat | http://www.vmwarez.com/2006/01/asteriskhome-voip-opensource-pbx.html |
| 17:30.44 | mozrat | it is about a 500MB zipped download |
| 17:31.03 | mozrat | rebooting - brb |
| 17:34.26 | mozrat | back |
| 17:35.35 | ldnblk | mozrat I am at the site but where on the site can I down load the application ? |
| 17:36.01 | mozrat | there is a link to a zip file |
| 17:39.05 | mozrat | http://dl.vmwarez.com/virtual-machines/vmwarez.com-aah25.zip is the direct link |
| 17:40.49 | ldnblk | thanks I'll go there now |
| 17:42.24 | Leeds | *hic* |
| 17:43.31 | ldnblk | hi there leeds how's things going with you ?? |
| 17:43.46 | mozrat | Leeds - are you as drunk as some tinkle pick you are? |
| 17:44.30 | Leeds | actually only slightly drunk - just had a couple of beers |
| 17:45.10 | Leeds | I gather morsing is in the pub though - got an SMS from him saying "Mmm... Kriek" :-) |
| 17:45.20 | mozrat | heh |
| 17:45.27 | mozrat | how was that ladyperson? |
| 17:45.39 | Leeds | what? |
| 17:46.13 | Leeds | oh, Gricelda? didn't see her, saw Craig (English/American) and Kira (Dutch) |
| 17:47.07 | Leeds | and now, zzzzz |
| 17:47.12 | Leeds | g'night all :-) |
| 18:00.08 | mozrat | nn Leeds |
| 18:00.16 | mozrat | catch you later ldnblk - HOMETIME!!!! |
| 18:00.22 | mozrat | TFI-FRIDAY |
| 18:01.14 | ldnblk | c ya mozrat have a goodweekend |
| 18:02.34 | *** part/#gllug ldnblk (n=ldnblk@host217-34-122-211.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 18:35.15 | Cope | home! |
| 18:48.13 | Cope | look! tits! |
| 18:54.44 | Blapto | What? Where? |
| 18:58.37 | George | you all suck |
| 18:58.41 | George | Cope: ok, you integrate that, fool |
| 19:01.43 | mozrat | hello |
| 19:14.15 | George | woo |
| 19:14.21 | George | letter from corpus asking me what room I want |
| 19:14.22 | George | anyway, br |
| 19:14.23 | George | brb |
| 20:02.44 | George | DOH |
| 20:02.51 | George | that's why my computer's been a bit unresponsive |
| 20:02.56 | George | been running it at 800MHz |
| 20:23.33 | z00dax | brain dead hotel network - smtp blocked! |
| 20:27.58 | George | harhar |
| 20:28.01 | George | reasonable |
| 20:28.05 | George | cambridge blocks smtp |
| 20:29.00 | z00dax | but how do you send email in that case ? they dont seem to offer a smtp |
| 20:29.13 | George | ssh tunnelling :D |
| 20:29.59 | z00dax | thats what i am doing at the moment, will ssh tunnel my imap connx into the home machine |
| 20:54.02 | George | sausages |
| 21:20.31 | Blapto | change the port to 26 |
| 21:47.08 | pawel | :> |
| 22:18.53 | George | I need help. |
| 22:19.01 | George | I just fucked up some guy's computer |
| 22:19.33 | George | anyone know how to fix a winxp install which bluescreens (STOP error) and then reboots every time it tries to boot? |
| 22:19.38 | George | same happens in safe mode too |
| 22:19.40 | pawel | George: you need a girl. |
| 22:19.43 | George | and also last known good config |
| 22:19.47 | George | I don't care about girls |
| 22:20.03 | pawel | so you end up fucking PCs. |
| 22:20.03 | George | what I do care about is the fact that I've just royally fucked up one of my friend's computers |
| 22:20.06 | pawel | ;-S |
| 22:25.16 | *** join/#gllug angelchild (n=angelic@host86-131-35-229.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:32.22 | George | HAHAHAHA ANGELCHILD |
| 22:33.41 | angelchild | hi2u2georgypantsplzgrowupandactmorethan4yrsoldkthxbai |
| 22:34.03 | George | georgy pants? |
| 22:37.22 | Blapto | Hi |
| 22:39.43 | angelchild | hey Blapto :) |
| 22:45.02 | Blapto | Where are you now then? |
| 22:45.06 | Blapto | Trapped in Waterloo? |
| 22:49.31 | pawel | :-S |
| 22:49.39 | pawel | ice ice baby. |
| 22:50.05 | Blapto | vanilla |
| 22:50.10 | pawel | ice |
| 22:50.16 | pawel | ice baby. |
| 22:50.17 | pawel | :> |
| 22:50.21 | Blapto | too cold too cold |
| 22:50.38 | Blapto | Word to your mother |
| 22:50.46 | Blapto | shout out to HOOOOMEEEBASE! |
| 22:51.51 | Blapto | Awww |
| 22:53.24 | George | morotatos ei! |
| 22:53.35 | Blapto | I think this is his way of flirting. |
| 22:53.37 | Blapto | But I'm not sure |
| 22:53.55 | George | why would I want to flirt with angelchild ? |
| 22:53.56 | pawel | vanila ice has never been released in Poland, then I went in early nineties to a friend of my parents and got a copy on the tape from thier son. heh. that was so much diffrent. ;> |
| 22:54.08 | George | for all I know angelchild could be a 60 year old catholic priest |
| 22:54.51 | pawel | ah. |
| 22:54.55 | pawel | we went to florida. |
| 22:54.57 | pawel | ;> |
| 22:55.07 | George | I went to sausageland |
| 22:55.16 | pawel | nevermind. |
| 22:55.17 | pawel | ;> |
| 22:55.32 | pawel | my personal stories... bah... |
| 22:55.44 | pawel | some change. |
| 22:56.04 | Blapto | pawel, do you like Vanilla Ice? |
| 22:56.42 | pawel | Blapto: sort of, rather memories. |
| 22:57.03 | pawel | Blapto: I remember when I was maybe 7 or 8 and was listing to it. |
| 22:57.19 | George | I need a new computer |
| 22:57.27 | pawel | Blapto: my mom hated it at that time. |
| 22:57.29 | Blapto | Ah, ok |
| 22:57.33 | Blapto | Yeah, I can't stand it either |
| 22:57.44 | pawel | Blapto: all that shagging on the tape. |
| 22:57.58 | pawel | Blapto: and I was just a kid. ;> |
| 22:59.24 | pawel | Blapto: when you are young you do often things that you regret in the future, but still you have wonderful memories, not only Vanila Ice. I have just logged it to All of Mp3 and started to boy some old records and those bring me memories back. |
| 22:59.46 | pawel | s/boy/buy/ |
| 22:59.53 | Blapto | Ah, I suppose so |
| 23:00.11 | Blapto | angelchild, George has a point, are you a member of the clergy? |
| 23:00.12 | pawel | I just bought a Marusha's record. ;> |
| 23:01.20 | pawel | oh. and some of the prodigy. ;> |
| 23:01.54 | pawel | I think they are bigger for britain then the beatles. |
| 23:01.58 | pawel | :> |
| 23:02.17 | angelchild | eh? no I'm not a member of the clergy O_o |
| 23:02.35 | Blapto | OK, just checking, you know. |
| 23:02.38 | Blapto | You at your parents? |
| 23:02.41 | angelchild | yeah |
| 23:02.43 | angelchild | in amersham |
| 23:02.46 | pawel | well, maybe they have taken to much at the end. but still records that they have made.. men... |
| 23:03.27 | Blapto | Ah, I know Amersham |
| 23:03.29 | Blapto | ish |
| 23:03.33 | Blapto | Zone C or something? |
| 23:04.29 | Blapto | is all of mp3 actually legal? |
| 23:05.10 | pawel | it is in Russia. |
| 23:05.28 | angelchild | Zone Q or whatever the farthest one out is |
| 23:05.31 | Blapto | I didn't know zenadsl operate in Russia ;) |
| 23:05.32 | Blapto | D |
| 23:05.38 | pawel | :> |
| 23:07.36 | pawel | well, as far as the law in Europe works, you are able to have music/movies as long as you do not make money on it. |
| 23:07.51 | Blapto | OK |
| 23:08.27 | pawel | and also the law that apply to me when I buy online is the law of the country where the server is and where the transaction is taking place. |
| 23:08.29 | pawel | :> |
| 23:09.26 | pawel | ok, the firefox is fucked. |
| 23:09.42 | pawel | it starts to be quite annoying. |
| 23:10.11 | pawel | .. i've got the poison! |
| 23:10.13 | pawel | :> |
| 23:11.29 | poison | :> |
| 23:51.47 | *** join/#gllug ldnblk (n=Just@212.183.128.185) |
| 23:52.31 | ldnblk | hello all :-) |
| 23:53.25 | George | hey |
| 23:53.31 | George | how's the aircraft carrier? :) |
| 23:58.16 | ldnblk | what aircraft carrier is this george ? |
| 23:58.31 | Blapto | The CVF in your kitchen sink. |
| 23:58.34 | George | ldnblk: your laptop |