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| 06:55.13 | Cope | morning |
| 07:20.38 | murb | not really. |
| 07:27.11 | morsing | 'morning |
| 07:34.04 | morsing | murb: Tea? |
| 07:39.25 | murb | trinken. |
| 07:45.23 | Cope | mmm tea |
| 08:36.04 | George | haha |
| 08:36.13 | George | spam "What is OEM software and why do you care?" |
| 08:36.19 | George | "I don't care, you utter bastard" |
| 08:49.38 | Cope | isn't she really really old? |
| 08:51.46 | George | Cope: hah. |
| 08:51.53 | George | Cope: that would be Julie Andrews you div :P |
| 08:52.13 | George | Cope: but seriously, the set is amazing, the songs are excellent |
| 08:52.22 | George | Cope: and some guy tap dances across the ceiling |
| 08:53.56 | George | time for an applied maths lesson |
| 08:53.56 | George | bye |
| 09:09.47 | Cope | leeds? |
| 09:09.50 | Cope | bah |
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| 09:16.42 | Cope | morning SlayerXP |
| 09:17.03 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 09:17.15 | SlayerXP | <whatswithumans> Does anyone know how to set up the apache2 http server configuration file??????? |
| 09:22.09 | Cope | SlayerXP: no, no-one in this 1000 person channel knows how to set up apache. We all blunder around in the dark. |
| 09:22.44 | SlayerXP | <chaun> Anyone Know How To Enable uPnP Port Forwarding In Debian? |
| 09:23.12 | Cope | cor |
| 09:23.14 | Cope | polls are us |
| 09:32.41 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:13.58 | wethrin | Err, yes, and? |
| 10:14.14 | wethrin | 1/n tends towards 0 as n->\infty |
| 10:24.14 | wethrin | morning z00 |
| 10:24.19 | z00dax | hey wethrin |
| 10:25.00 | SlayerXP | morning inspired open source enthusiasts, and redhat users. |
| 10:26.19 | wethrin | Hey, who you calling a Redhat user? |
| 10:27.07 | Erwin | I use RHEL :-) |
| 10:27.11 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 10:27.12 | SlayerXP | wethrin: Erwin |
| 10:27.17 | wethrin | Okay :) |
| 10:27.42 | SlayerXP | z00dax: *prod* *poke* |
| 10:28.34 | z00dax | I use CentOS! |
| 10:28.46 | z00dax | SlayerXP, reply in the smtp proces to you |
| 10:28.46 | SlayerXP | no, not that. the _other_ thing. |
| 10:28.51 | SlayerXP | right |
| 10:32.41 | z00dax | did you make the 1k ? |
| 10:32.50 | SlayerXP | you're 1103 |
| 10:33.00 | z00dax | so this is 1103 active in the last 7 days |
| 10:33.07 | SlayerXP | not quite |
| 10:33.16 | SlayerXP | it works like this |
| 10:33.22 | z00dax | you are not running the 7+ days expire thing ? |
| 10:33.26 | SlayerXP | 1----2------------------------3 |
| 10:33.28 | SlayerXP | 1 is now |
| 10:33.33 | SlayerXP | 2 is now plus 10 minutes |
| 10:33.39 | SlayerXP | 3 is now plus 7 days |
| 10:34.01 | SlayerXP | between 1 and 2 your mail server will be blocked |
| 10:34.30 | SlayerXP | any time your mail server connect between 2 and 3, 3 gets updated to be then() plus 7 days |
| 10:35.03 | SlayerXP | as soon as now()>3, then record gets purged and we go back to square one |
| 10:35.10 | SlayerXP | then the |
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| 10:41.08 | SlayerXP | z00dax: makse sense? |
| 10:41.11 | SlayerXP | makes |
| 10:41.15 | z00dax | SlayerXP, yup |
| 10:41.26 | SlayerXP | z00dax: (all those 1105 records are <7 days) |
| 10:42.06 | z00dax | out of how many unique smtp inbound sources ? |
| 10:42.21 | z00dax | i.e. how many grey' listed hosts never came back to delivery anything ? |
| 10:45.01 | Cope | hi all |
| 10:45.15 | Cope | z00dax: interview with company two went very well, I am told |
| 10:45.41 | z00dax | Cope, cool cool. |
| 10:45.58 | z00dax | is company 2 where you were looking at iron'ed shirt + tie everyday ? |
| 10:46.17 | Cope | i do that anyway |
| 10:46.21 | Cope | out of choice |
| 10:46.32 | Cope | but no, neither would require such a dress code |
| 10:46.47 | Cope | 2 is the solaris + linux shop |
| 10:47.03 | Cope | which is kinda nice, as I didn't really want to stop admin'ing solaris |
| 10:47.13 | z00dax | :) |
| 10:47.21 | z00dax | <--- prefers jeans and T's to work |
| 10:47.31 | Erwin | it's 11 degrees. 2 days ago I was in Copenhage with -5 degrees and blizzards. yarr. |
| 10:47.44 | Cope | depends on my mood, but i feel more productive in suit and tie, for somne silly reason |
| 10:47.47 | z00dax | but I did that whole Tie thing for 2 years, since it was required. prolly do it again if there is a requirement |
| 10:48.01 | SlayerXP | z00dax: average about 200 to 300 per day |
| 10:48.33 | z00dax | SlayerXP, right... i suppose thats the statistic that is more interesting than the number of whitelisted folks |
| 10:50.30 | Cope | Erwin: waht is your natiionality? |
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| 10:53.02 | Erwin | Cope: I'm a Danish citizen. |
| 11:02.29 | SlayerXP | z00dax: node0000.antibodymx.net is now configured for that domain, feel free to test before moving your MX records. |
| 11:05.11 | z00dax | SlayerXP, ty |
| 11:05.16 | SlayerXP | np |
| 11:26.18 | murb | Erwin: we can still hang you for treason if we feel like it though. |
| 11:27.46 | *** part/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk) |
| 11:41.01 | Erwin | unfortunate morbid humour on Guiness world records site -- http://www.bbspot.com/News/BBloopers/2006/03/2052.php |
| 11:41.12 | Erwin | They've removed the "Break this Record" link now on that particular page |
| 11:41.53 | Erwin | And on most in the "War & Weapons" category too.. Except this one http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=56012 |
| 12:40.45 | boudiccas | SlayerXP; can i ask you a question please about spamassassin? |
| 12:40.58 | SlayerXP | you can ask any question you like. |
| 12:42.27 | boudiccas | where does spammassassin store its logs under redhat-type systems please? [i'm using centos] |
| 12:42.50 | Cope | boudiccas: did you install from an rpm? |
| 12:43.00 | boudiccas | Cope; yes |
| 12:43.08 | Cope | boudiccas: then you can query the rpm |
| 12:43.43 | boudiccas | Cope; how? [still a relative newbie] |
| 12:44.03 | Cope | boudiccas: rpm -ql <short name of rpm> |
| 12:44.10 | boudiccas | Cope; ty |
| 12:46.23 | boudiccas | there is nothing in the output which shows anything like /var/log/*** , and thats hwat i really want to know# |
| 12:46.34 | boudiccas | *what |
| 12:47.30 | Cope | what does the output look like? |
| 12:47.54 | boudiccas | a long list showing where various files are |
| 12:49.06 | Cope | right, well if there's no dedicated log file, it will log to syslog, I expect |
| 12:49.09 | Cope | check the config file |
| 12:49.18 | Cope | it will tell you :) |
| 12:49.25 | Cope | or indeed the documentatiomn |
| 12:50.50 | SlayerXP | boudiccas: I haven't a clue. debian's package logs to /var/log/mail.log |
| 12:50.56 | boudiccas | i've looked at ll the relevant man pages and they all say to syslog, but there is nothign showing from SA in maillog |
| 12:51.05 | boudiccas | *all |
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| 12:51.44 | boudiccas | maybe the logging isn't 'turned' on? |
| 13:13.41 | boudiccas | k, thanks anyway |
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| 14:25.09 | LeedsTreo | yo |
| 14:36.03 | Cope | woo |
| 14:36.06 | Cope | oh |
| 14:36.08 | Cope | :( |
| 14:40.20 | wethrin | wibble |
| 14:40.56 | Cope | yay |
| 14:44.01 | wethrin | hello George |
| 14:44.27 | George | hi |
| 14:50.02 | Cope | hello George |
| 14:50.32 | George | hi |
| 15:00.34 | JAV | hello |
| 15:00.50 | JAV | http://www.yomolo.com/basura/pollos.jpg --> sfw |
| 15:02.00 | JAV | "This is not funny!" |
| 15:02.19 | stephen | hehe |
| 15:05.56 | Cope | JAV: umm |
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| 15:10.47 | Cope | yay Erwin |
| 15:11.44 | Erwin | hi |
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| 15:48.17 | SlayerXP | Cope: you wanted me to do something? |
| 15:55.18 | Cope | SlayerXP: yeah... |
| 15:55.26 | Cope | but i got someone else to do it |
| 15:55.38 | SlayerXP | righty-ho |
| 15:55.40 | Cope | was just i needed someone to try a remote connection |
| 15:55.45 | Cope | all sorted |
| 16:50.18 | Cope | http://www.haxxxor.com/dvd.html |
| 16:50.22 | Cope | v funny |
| 16:50.29 | Cope | [semi sfw] |
| 16:52.01 | George | #define bad_p0rn = "Porn that promises one thing, but all you get are drunk bimbos not doing that one thing"; |
| 16:52.04 | George | rofl |
| 17:11.39 | Cope | it away then the ventilator should be removed, and god should decide, rather than doctors forcing the baby to live" |
| 17:11.54 | Cope | -Enofuckingcluw |
| 17:12.04 | Cope | s/uw/ue/ |
| 17:21.59 | skugg | hahahah |
| 17:22.10 | skugg | how clever is that thing? |
| 17:22.41 | skugg | s/(thing)/"$1-thong " x 10/e |
| 17:22.52 | skugg | not _that_ clever then. |
| 17:23.06 | skugg | s/(thing)/thang-$1/ |
| 17:23.29 | skugg | or do you need some special fairy dust sprinkled all over you to do that? |
| 17:25.16 | Erwin | s/./`echo hi there`/e |
| 17:47.31 | wethrin | Hm. iPlanet. There's something I haven't used for a bit |
| 17:47.42 | George | iPlanet? |
| 17:50.17 | Cope | George: yes |
| 17:50.25 | Cope | Thank you for choosing Sun(tm) ONE Web Server Products. |
| 17:50.26 | Cope | You'll find Installation Instructions and Release Notes for the |
| 17:50.26 | Cope | Sun ONE Web Server at: |
| 17:50.26 | Cope | http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/817-1828-10/ |
| 17:50.31 | Cope | erm.... |
| 17:50.38 | Cope | Not Found |
| 17:50.39 | Cope | The requested object does not exist on this server. The link you followed is either outdated, inaccurate, or the server has been instructed not to let you have it. |
| 17:51.42 | wethrin | Oops. |
| 17:51.56 | wethrin | Well done, Sun, for rearranging your webshite |
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| 18:01.30 | stephanb2 | hello everybody |
| 18:03.55 | stephanb2 | im building a new Athlon64 and im having no luck |
| 18:05.10 | stephanb2 | BIOS doesnt come up, drives are not powered, cpu fan spins |
| 18:05.26 | stephanb2 | im very confised |
| 18:05.34 | stephanb2 | s/fised/fused |
| 18:06.02 | George | the boeing x32 is a fucking ugly plane |
| 18:06.19 | murb | stephanb2: does it require extra mobo power? |
| 18:06.25 | murb | does the board have atleast a power led? |
| 18:06.39 | murb | did it require a 24 pin power supply etc? |
| 18:07.30 | stephanb2 | murb: yes it requires an ATX_12V, and i am confused whether it needs 2b connected as well as the 24-pin ATX |
| 18:07.50 | stephanb2 | initially i connected everything e.g. ATX_12V && 24-pin |
| 18:07.57 | murb | that should be correct. |
| 18:08.00 | murb | connecting all. |
| 18:08.10 | stephanb2 | the power led lights up, the drive leds lights up even without a drive |
| 18:08.15 | murb | sometimes you need extra power for the 2nd video card etc. |
| 18:08.25 | murb | stephanb2: does it have a bios jumper you have to move? |
| 18:08.54 | stephanb2 | murb: hmm dunno about that, but there is a way to clear the CMOS values |
| 18:09.04 | stephanb2 | maybe that would be a good thing 2 do |
| 18:09.26 | murb | stephanb2: also does your bios support the cpu you are connecting? |
| 18:09.37 | murb | some times you require a bios upgrade for the newer amd proccessors |
| 18:09.47 | murb | is it def. compatible with the board without further updates? |
| 18:10.32 | stephanb2 | im using an Athlon-64 the bios upgrade is required for opterons |
| 18:11.00 | stephanb2 | anyway i cant update the bios if the bios doesn't even show up ;-) |
| 18:11.14 | murb | have you put the memory in the correct banks? |
| 18:11.51 | stephanb2 | murb: NO! well done !!! |
| 18:12.13 | stephanb2 | i idiotically assumed that 1 module meant bank #1 |
| 18:12.37 | stephanb2 | let me fix that... |
| 18:14.43 | stephanb2 | hmm actually the manual is very badly written it lists the config that will *fail* to boot :-( |
| 18:29.17 | stephanb2 | murb: no luck with the RAM, tried same module in other bank, and other module in bank1, and tried dual module |
| 18:33.30 | stephanb2 | i dont like this. im afraid that one of the components is faulty. cpu or mobo |
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| 18:58.07 | stephanb2 | murb: how can i debug this? take the cpu & memory 2 a friend who has another A64 system? |
| 18:58.23 | murb | stephanb2: would be an idea. |
| 18:59.03 | stephanb2 | murb: can it even be the PSU ? |
| 19:02.49 | murb | i don't know. |
| 19:03.14 | murb | maybe |
| 19:04.40 | Cope | kickass |
| 19:04.56 | wethrin | You got a job? |
| 19:05.00 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 19:07.07 | SlayerXP | godawful software running on top of pointless software |
| 19:07.15 | SlayerXP | and vice-versa |
| 19:13.10 | Cope | SlayerXP: iPlanet is very good :) |
| 19:17.42 | SlayerXP | at....? |
| 19:17.56 | George | Cope: what's wrong with the real planet? |
| 19:18.02 | George | Cope: like uranus? |
| 19:18.13 | George | s/the real/a real/ |
| 19:18.48 | stephanb2 | brb |
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| 19:21.38 | Cope | SlayerXP: integration with weblogic; provides an outstanding web-interface; very easy to manage; excellent distribuited admin with ldap back-end; granular control of virtual hosts; powerful and easy proxying config. |
| 19:21.42 | Cope | just for starters |
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| 19:36.26 | Cope | see you all tomorrow, between 06:30 and 07:00 |
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| 20:50.58 | George | hey ldnblk |
| 20:51.44 | ldnblk | hey george how ya doing ? |
| 20:53.28 | George | bit crap |
| 20:56.28 | George | :( |
| 20:57.36 | ldnblk | z00dax go for a fish pizza with plenty of anchovies |
| 20:57.51 | ldnblk | u too george ! |
| 20:58.02 | z00dax | a fish pizza ? |
| 20:58.43 | ldnblk | no not a fish pizza a fish pizza with plenty of anchovies |
| 20:58.50 | George | ? |
| 20:59.19 | z00dax | i like my pizza unhealthy |
| 20:59.30 | George | I generally choose the cheapest possible |
| 20:59.37 | eye69 | Evening folks. |
| 20:59.41 | George | 2x15" pizzas for £10.65 |
| 20:59.50 | z00dax | :) |
| 21:00.32 | ldnblk | unhealthy z00dax then go for an anchovie only piizza and ask george to suply u with some water |
| 21:01.09 | ldnblk | my my george u got a big apitiete |
| 21:02.11 | George | ldnblk: nah, I share with a friend normally |
| 21:02.55 | SlayerXP | z00dax: i see no mail flow. |
| 21:03.14 | z00dax | SlayerXP, been really busy all day today - not had the chance to setup on my end. |
| 21:03.22 | z00dax | SlayerXP, will make it happen before end of day today |
| 21:03.30 | SlayerXP | z00dax: *nods* |
| 21:03.59 | ldnblk | z00dax can u build a package for me ? |
| 21:04.54 | z00dax | ldnblk, try me |
| 21:05.17 | ldnblk | mplayer for suse 10.0 ? |
| 21:05.59 | George | suse < * |
| 21:06.37 | ldnblk | george suse <* what that all about ? |
| 21:08.11 | George | ldnblk: I don't like suse anymore |
| 21:08.12 | z00dax | very unlikely |
| 21:08.18 | George | since they hit version 8 it's sucked a bit |
| 21:08.24 | z00dax | to elaborate. its very unlikely I would do that pkg |
| 21:08.45 | ldnblk | why z00dax |
| 21:08.48 | ldnblk | ? |
| 21:08.54 | z00dax | i hate suse |
| 21:09.12 | z00dax | hate maybe the wrong word |
| 21:09.16 | ldnblk | u hate suse but love linux ? |
| 21:09.20 | z00dax | yes |
| 21:09.48 | ldnblk | I love linux also :-) can u help me ? |
| 21:09.57 | George | ldnblk: linux is great :DF |
| 21:10.03 | George | I've been using it for over half my life |
| 21:10.18 | George | actually, maybe a bit less |
| 21:12.08 | ldnblk | ldnblk dreams of z00dax building mplayer on linux that he absolutely adores :-) |
| 21:12.43 | ldnblk | z00dax what linux distro do u use ? |
| 21:13.16 | z00dax | http://svn.rpmforge.net/svn/trunk/rpms/mplayer/mplayer.spec |
| 21:13.34 | z00dax | ldnblk, CentOS - everywhere |
| 21:13.52 | ldnblk | oh redhat |
| 21:14.37 | z00dax | well, sort of - but not really. |
| 21:14.54 | ldnblk | sort of but really ? |
| 21:14.59 | ldnblk | :-) |
| 21:16.32 | ldnblk | z00dax so whats this website about ? as it makes no sense to me |
| 21:17.48 | SlayerXP | "centos: because you're dumb enough to use redhat, but not dumb enough to pay for it" |
| 21:17.49 | SlayerXP | :) |
| 21:17.51 | z00dax | thats the .spec file you can use to build a mplayer rpm set from |
| 21:18.12 | z00dax | centos: because it works, works well, and you dont need brain dead pkg managers like apt |
| 21:18.17 | z00dax | :) |
| 21:19.06 | ldnblk | if only i was as clued up as u r to building packages it would really make sense to me :-( |
| 21:20.10 | z00dax | ldnblk, drop into #opensuse and ask the people there - pascal or someone else might already have the pkgs you want |
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| 21:24.14 | z00dax | angelchild, ! |
| 21:24.44 | angelchild | hai |
| 21:26.01 | z00dax | howse life down the bleeding edge of cross platform game development |
| 21:32.26 | z00dax | humm |
| 21:42.36 | George | z00dax with a sausage |
| 21:42.42 | George | harharharh I'm funny today |
| 21:45.11 | SlayerXP | i find that hard to beleive |
| 21:45.19 | SlayerXP | what's so special about today? |
| 21:45.34 | SlayerXP | you've never been funny before, why start now? |
| 22:03.43 | SlayerXP | a telling silence |
| 22:13.26 | ldnblk | hey slayerxp r u still here ? |
| 22:13.35 | SlayerXP | yes. |
| 22:13.55 | ldnblk | what distro of linux do u use ? |
| 22:14.05 | SlayerXP | debian, of course. |
| 22:14.17 | ldnblk | why of course ? |
| 22:16.39 | ldnblk | is debian the cream de la cream of linux distros ?? |
| 22:16.48 | ldnblk | slayerxp |
| 22:16.58 | SlayerXP | yes. |
| 22:17.04 | SlayerXP | sorry, other channels to attend to |
| 22:19.13 | SlayerXP | debian is maintainable and supportable with unsurpassed quality of packages. |
| 22:20.21 | ldnblk | is it also best in class with regards to stablity ?? |
| 22:20.42 | SlayerXP | debian has three trees known as stable, testing and unstable |
| 22:20.47 | SlayerXP | they are all badly named |
| 22:21.37 | SlayerXP | stable is really "maintenance". it's a version of debian in which all 10,000 packages on 11 architectures have no known bugs or security problems |
| 22:21.53 | SlayerXP | read that again |
| 22:22.09 | SlayerXP | 10,000+ bits of software, all packages, all ready to go and _no known bugs whatsoever_ |
| 22:22.52 | ldnblk | well i've never used debian before, does it have a nice gui like redhat and suse ?? |
| 22:23.30 | Erwin | 10,000 bits! Wow, they've really slimmed it down. |
| 22:24.05 | SlayerXP | i don't recall exactly how many packages are in stable, but it's over 10k |
| 22:24.11 | SlayerXP | ldnblk: if you want one, yes. |
| 22:26.30 | ldnblk | slayerxp: do you use other linux distros ? |
| 22:26.32 | SlayerXP | stable will never get new versions of software |
| 22:26.37 | SlayerXP | ldnblk: I have no need to |
| 22:27.07 | SlayerXP | stable gets bug and security fixes - it never gets new versions |
| 22:27.45 | SlayerXP | testing is next |
| 22:27.53 | SlayerXP | testing is better thought of as "current" |
| 22:28.07 | SlayerXP | it contains currently about 16,000 packages |
| 22:28.24 | SlayerXP | all these packages are recent versions are are thought to have few bugs |
| 22:28.30 | SlayerXP | and are |
| 22:29.02 | SlayerXP | before getting into testing, packages have to be in "unstable" for a certain amount of time and have no problems discovered |
| 22:29.55 | SlayerXP | testing is frequently updated, and you can be sure that the software has been extensively tested. |
| 22:30.20 | ldnblk | slayterxp : why do packages have to be in ustable before getting into testing ? |
| 22:31.09 | ldnblk | slayerxp: why can testing not take place in stable/unstable state ? |
| 22:31.42 | ldnblk | as you can get bugs in both cases |
| 22:31.47 | SlayerXP | because stable does not change bar bugs and security fixes |
| 22:31.52 | SlayerXP | that's why it's stable |
| 22:32.03 | SlayerXP | stable _has no known bugs_ |
| 22:32.33 | SlayerXP | if you want bullet proof software, guranteed to work, then you use stable |
| 22:32.47 | SlayerXP | the downside is that the software will be older |
| 22:32.53 | ldnblk | or microsoft ? |
| 22:32.55 | SlayerXP | you can't help that, stability takes time |
| 22:34.22 | SlayerXP | testing is safe to use, but you'll want to keep an eye on the bug tracking database before upgrading packages you rely on |
| 22:35.03 | SlayerXP | lastly we have "unstable" |
| 22:35.10 | SlayerXP | this is bleeding edge stuff |
| 22:35.25 | SlayerXP | very recent versions, all the new features |
| 22:35.32 | ldnblk | slayerxp: do you get involved in testing ? |
| 22:35.46 | SlayerXP | ldnblk: yes, I run production servers on testing |
| 22:36.17 | SlayerXP | unstable is actually the equivalent of what most other distros kick out on CD every couple of months |
| 22:36.19 | ldnblk | slayerxp: whats a production server ? |
| 22:36.44 | SlayerXP | ldnblk: usually a server doing work that ensures cashflow into my bank account |
| 22:36.55 | SlayerXP | if it's not working then the cash stops flowing |
| 22:39.08 | ldnblk | slayerxp: u sound like a real profesional, even though i still am none the wiser as to what a production server is |
| 22:39.14 | SlayerXP | i dislike it when that happens. |
| 22:39.35 | SlayerXP | ldnblk: a production server is a machine that is performing a critical task |
| 22:40.28 | ldnblk | slayerxp: like an asterisk server, processing multiple calls simultaneosuly ? |
| 22:40.35 | SlayerXP | if you can point at a machine and say "if that stopped working then my business would be adversley affected" then you're pointing at a production machine |
| 22:41.47 | ldnblk | slayerxp: so you are supplying a server for people to test on that u charge for ? |
| 22:42.03 | SlayerXP | i don't understand the question |
| 22:44.27 | ldnblk | slayerxp: i am trying to figure out in simplistic terms the service that u provide on your production server(s), do people subscribe to your sevices ? |
| 22:44.41 | SlayerXP | errm, it can be |
| 22:45.13 | SlayerXP | a production server is _any_ server that performs a business-critical function |
| 22:46.12 | SlayerXP | DNS servers are a good example of that. they don't make money for you directly, but you'll start losing money if your DNS servers aren't working. |
| 22:46.30 | George | moooooo |
| 22:47.19 | ldnblk | hello george its nearly your bed time ! have u had your horlicks yet ? |
| 22:49.35 | George | bedtime? |
| 22:49.36 | George | wtf? |
| 22:49.43 | George | it's at least 2 hours until bedtime |
| 23:29.17 | Erwin | Hmm. Another restaurant that I've visited loses a Michelin star. |
| 23:30.59 | wethrin | :-) |
