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07:57.12 | morsing | 'morning |
07:57.14 | morsing | Leeds! |
07:58.37 | morsing | Hello? |
08:01.51 | George | bleh |
08:02.08 | George | TOO EARLY |
08:02.21 | George | thank goodness i only have two lessons today |
08:02.25 | George | and they start at 10:30 |
08:27.49 | mozrat | Hello |
08:29.34 | George | hey mozrat |
08:29.40 | George | mozrat: back on the mainland again? :P |
08:29.48 | mozrat | George: yes - back in the motherland now |
08:30.31 | George | ok |
08:30.34 | George | right gotta dash |
08:30.39 | George | be back in half an hour |
08:30.40 | mozrat | have fun |
08:33.29 | morsing | mozrat! |
08:33.38 | mozrat | Hi morsing ! |
08:41.10 | morsing | Excuse me for asking a stupid question but how are SlammerXP and Blapto related? |
08:42.19 | mozrat | are they? |
08:44.35 | morsing | What's SlammerXP's name? |
08:45.17 | mozrat | Mr Martin A Brooks Esq |
08:46.02 | morsing | 06:53 -!- Blapto [n=Martin@brookscity.plus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 |
08:46.06 | morsing | ?? |
08:47.23 | mozrat | oh |
08:47.36 | mozrat | Just a coincidence I think |
08:48.10 | morsing | So Blapto's name is Martin Brooks? |
08:49.10 | mozrat | no? |
08:49.14 | mozrat | His name may be Martin |
08:51.56 | mozrat | heeeey Leeds! |
08:51.58 | mozrat | hello there |
08:52.12 | mozrat | How was Oz? |
08:52.50 | Leeds | pretty good! |
08:52.57 | mozrat | Did the wedding go well? |
08:53.06 | SlammerXP | morning |
08:53.10 | mozrat | Hey SlammerXP |
08:53.12 | Leeds | http://bigboy.vmlinuz.org/photos/ |
08:53.25 | Leeds | yes, I am aware that this is yet another place I am posting photos... |
08:53.36 | mozrat | nice weather!! |
08:53.53 | mozrat | http://beerandspeech.org/photos/NYC_2006/ |
08:54.15 | Leeds | it was - that day.. it varied, overall, from lovely, "half an hour on a ferry and you're sunburnt" to "grey, damp, only warm" |
08:54.16 | mozrat | Mine aren't so good :( |
08:54.33 | mozrat | Bought a cheap camera and it isn't so good in dark conditions |
08:55.22 | Leeds | I put mine in 'beach mode' for the wedding, since... it was on a beach :-) |
08:55.38 | mozrat | Fair enough! |
08:55.51 | Leeds | they do seem to have come out nice |
08:56.16 | George | back |
08:56.19 | Leeds | for the record, there was a wedding, *and* a set of someone else's wedding photos, on that beach that afternoon |
08:57.26 | Leeds | hmm.. f-spot, huh? |
08:58.48 | Leeds | mozrat: it's Rockefeller |
09:00.58 | mozrat | Leeds: I wasn't sure |
09:01.07 | mozrat | despite having been there :) |
09:01.23 | Leeds | I only went at about 1am, when it was all closed up and quiet |
09:03.11 | SlammerXP | the lass int he white is pretty hot |
09:04.34 | Leeds | SlammerXP: you mean my cousin, the bride? |
09:04.42 | SlammerXP | apparently. |
09:04.48 | Leeds | I'll tell her you said that... |
09:05.08 | SlammerXP | please do |
09:06.10 | SlammerXP | wow |
09:06.26 | SlammerXP | the mail cluster processed its 10,000th email last night and it's 11,000th this morning |
09:09.47 | Leeds | mozrat: I did the ferry during the day - I only had Saturday, until my plane left about 5pm, to sight-see, so I didn't have much time to stop and *look* at anything |
09:12.44 | mozrat | Leeds: you mean in NYC? |
09:13.08 | mozrat | or a ferry in Oz |
09:14.48 | Leeds | NYC |
09:15.41 | Leeds | didn't take any photos from the ferry in Oz - just got sunburnt on it :-) |
09:16.07 | Leeds | oh, and I hate to tell you, but long distance night photos without a very long exposure and very stable tripod-type-thing? Nothing worth seeing... |
09:16.45 | mozrat | Leeds: yep :) |
09:17.03 | mozrat | I just dumped them off the camera and straight up to the web quickly |
09:17.11 | mozrat | I haven't gone through them yet |
09:17.13 | morsing | Check it! |
09:17.19 | Leeds | you may notice that a couple of mine could do with being rotated... |
09:17.22 | Leeds | morning morsing |
09:19.11 | Leeds | and now, the end is near... hometime |
09:49.19 | morsing | Leeds? :-( |
10:28.25 | z00dax | morning |
10:28.31 | mozrat | Hi z00dax |
10:28.36 | z00dax | hey mozrat |
10:36.11 | SlammerXP | slow list week this week |
10:36.52 | SlammerXP | though I think someone needs to investigate Chris Hunter |
10:38.10 | morsing | z00dax! |
10:47.22 | mozrat | SlammerXP: someone should correct his clock |
10:47.48 | SlammerXP | perhaps he's really emailling from the future |
10:48.38 | mozrat | maybe :-) |
10:50.12 | morsing | Check it! |
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11:36.36 | stephanb2 | ni |
11:38.13 | wethrin | Hm. Rapid-cooled ice has an odd texture |
12:14.59 | stephanb2 | hence the book "in praise of slow" |
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12:20.20 | Leeds | evening all! |
12:20.33 | mozrat | Hello Leeds |
12:21.11 | Leeds | mozrat: so, f-spot? |
12:21.30 | mozrat | Leeds: aii |
12:21.37 | mozrat | it is quite nice |
12:22.08 | Leeds | iphoto-ish? |
12:22.18 | SlammerXP | bored. |
12:22.32 | mozrat | Leeds: I would say better than iPhoto - although I haven't really played with iPhoto that much |
12:22.37 | mozrat | the tagging of images is nice |
12:23.32 | Leeds | I'll have to look at it... ISTR that it had some dependencies which put me off - like GNOME |
12:23.38 | mozrat | and Mono |
12:23.51 | mozrat | but it came installed with the distro |
12:23.57 | Leeds | I already have Mono installed |
12:23.58 | mozrat | so.. *shrug* |
12:24.20 | SlammerXP | slow mail day, slow contracts offered day, slow people-wanting-their-mail-despammed day |
12:24.22 | Leeds | yeah... |
12:24.33 | mozrat | SlammerXP: I like Spam |
12:24.56 | Leeds | never tasted it |
12:30.56 | JAV | hello! |
12:38.33 | z00dax | ibot, convert USD 495.75 to GBP |
12:42.43 | wethrin | That's not right |
12:42.50 | wethrin | ~change 495.75 USD to GBP |
12:44.34 | SlammerXP | ~change 80000 white anglo-saxon protestants to buddhism |
12:45.10 | wethrin | ITYM convert :) |
12:45.32 | SlammerXP | ~convert 80000 white anglo-saxon protestants to buddhism |
12:45.44 | z00dax | so who know something about hos customs works in the uk :) |
12:45.44 | SlammerXP | <ibot> Unknown unit `white' |
12:45.48 | SlammerXP | *tsk* racism |
12:45.54 | SlammerXP | z00dax: I know a little |
12:46.11 | z00dax | SlammerXP, I've got a donated machine from $BigAss 'merican company, sent to me |
12:46.46 | z00dax | just had a fax from a freight company, asking for my 'customs clearence instructions' |
12:47.05 | SlammerXP | merkin company or uk company? |
12:47.16 | z00dax | a company thats everywhere |
12:47.35 | z00dax | but the box came from the us |
12:47.36 | z00dax | US |
12:47.47 | SlammerXP | you least you'll need to pay is 17.% on top of the declared value of the hardware |
12:47.51 | SlammerXP | 17.5% |
12:48.16 | SlammerXP | i think the figure has changed, but I paid about 22% duty on importing hardware from penguin computing |
12:48.50 | z00dax | so umm.. i need to cough up 600 odd pounds to get delivery of this |
12:49.05 | SlammerXP | your freight company will usually bill you for the duty, and you'll often have to pay it before the good are released to you |
12:49.14 | z00dax | nice of them to also say that they are charging me £10 a day for the stuff to sit in their storage area |
12:49.23 | SlammerXP | that's fairly normal. |
12:53.45 | Leeds | see, this is where I get pissed off... |
12:54.15 | z00dax | can i not pay somehow ? |
12:54.32 | SlammerXP | yes, you canpay in cash, or by cheque :) |
12:54.45 | SlammerXP | or credit card, of course. |
12:54.45 | z00dax | :) |
12:54.45 | Leeds | it's a gift? |
12:54.56 | z00dax | Leeds, its a donation ? |
12:55.01 | z00dax | could we say its a Gift ? |
12:55.07 | Leeds | are you paying for it? |
12:55.10 | z00dax | nope |
12:55.17 | SlammerXP | you're way over the gift value |
12:55.38 | Leeds | see, to me, you should pay - if at all - on the purchase price |
12:55.55 | z00dax | Leeds, this is from Sun |
12:56.03 | Leeds | niagra? |
12:56.07 | z00dax | you'd think the idiots would ship from one of their local setup's |
12:56.35 | Leeds | is it a niagra? |
12:56.47 | z00dax | no, its a x64 |
12:56.59 | Leeds | can I ask who it came from? |
12:57.15 | z00dax | your friends |
12:57.22 | Leeds | name? :-) |
12:58.43 | Leeds | in private, if you prefer... |
13:00.20 | Leeds | well, you have my permission to tell him from me as a former Janus engineer to sort it out :-) |
13:00.32 | z00dax | lol |
13:00.34 | z00dax | ok, willdo |
13:03.40 | z00dax | the shipping company's official import customer services line is a mobile number! |
13:04.19 | Leeds | that's a bad sign |
13:10.43 | mozrat | leeds, http://beerandspeech.org/tmp/fspot/ |
13:11.10 | Leeds | mozrat: nice, thanks |
13:11.48 | mozrat | The version I have is a bit crashy - but I think they have fixed a lot of it recently |
13:11.58 | mozrat | and it hasn't crashed on me for a while, now I think of it |
13:12.22 | Leeds | these your pics? |
13:12.24 | mozrat | Leeds, from my gallery, yes |
13:12.31 | mozrat | that is my pooch |
13:12.54 | Leeds | very cute :-) |
13:13.04 | mozrat | She is a good doggy |
13:13.31 | Leeds | that was, of course, why I was asking... |
13:15.28 | mozrat | Leeds, http://beerandspeech.org/tmp/doggy/ :-) |
13:15.39 | mozrat | f-spot exports nice and fast :-) |
13:16.12 | z00dax | i tried f-spot a few weeks back, it pulled in all my pics from the normal place into its own tree... didnt like that much |
13:16.42 | mozrat | z00dax: really? It doesn't do that for me.. was that part of a distro or did you build it yourself? |
13:16.57 | Leeds | cat's I'm not so keen on... |
13:17.03 | Leeds | cats too |
13:17.07 | wethrin | yay dog! |
13:17.09 | wethrin | And yay cat! |
13:17.17 | z00dax | mozrat, part of FC5 |
13:17.22 | mozrat | I prefer dogs myself.. |
13:17.24 | z00dax | mozrat, but i thought it did that anyway ? |
13:17.30 | z00dax | yeah, dogs ++, cats -- |
13:17.32 | mozrat | z00dax: I wonder if they changed that as a preference |
13:17.38 | mozrat | z00dax: Mine doesn't AFAIK |
13:17.45 | mozrat | in fact - it doesn't |
13:17.48 | z00dax | its something you can set in pref's - i didnt know about it at the time |
13:18.23 | mozrat | z00dax: do you know which version you were playing with? |
13:18.46 | z00dax | the one that takes half a year to load |
13:19.14 | z00dax | 0.1.10 |
13:19.25 | mozrat | ok |
13:19.31 | Leeds | 0.1.11 released yesterday :-) |
13:19.45 | z00dax | ah, maybe re-try in a day or so then |
13:19.50 | mozrat | mine says 0.1.2 and I've had it for a while.. |
13:20.05 | mozrat | maybe the site is out of date - my version comes packaged with OpenSUSE10 |
13:20.20 | Leeds | I assume 0.1.2, 0.1.3, 0.1.9, 0.1.10, 0.1.111 |
13:20.25 | Leeds | s/1$// |
13:20.38 | mozrat | oh, duh |
13:20.42 | mozrat | of course |
13:20.49 | mozrat | *smacks head* |
13:22.08 | mozrat | plus it is integrated with Beagle if you use that |
13:22.12 | mozrat | which is nice |
13:22.34 | Leeds | I don't... |
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13:42.05 | gary_ | good afternnon people |
13:42.55 | mozrat | hi gary_ |
13:43.11 | Leeds | hey gary_ |
13:44.03 | gary_ | how's it all going? |
13:44.17 | Leeds | not bad... you? |
13:44.47 | gary_ | I've had a few health issues, but otherwise not too bad |
13:45.07 | gary_ | had an operation postponed last Weds |
13:45.30 | Leeds | ugh... nothing too serious, I hope? |
13:47.17 | z00dax | mozrat, beagle is nice... you know if there is an easy way to get thunderbird email indexed using beagle |
13:50.06 | gary_ | Leeds: Well I've got a head like concrete a lot of internal pressure on my eyes leaving me with blurred, fluctuating vision and i seem to be losing the ability to hear properly |
13:50.29 | Leeds | ugh, ugh |
13:50.34 | gary_ | all tests done so far have turned up as normal |
13:50.39 | mozrat | z00dax: I dunno - someone was working on that |
13:50.48 | Leeds | I don't seem to have enough gnome installed to run f-spot |
13:51.02 | gary_ | except for my hearing, which i apprently have sustained hearing nerve damage |
13:51.05 | Leeds | gary_: best of luck, anyway |
13:51.09 | Leeds | ugh ugh ugh |
13:51.11 | mozrat | gary_: yes, good luck |
13:51.19 | gary_ | thamnks |
13:53.31 | Leeds | poor guy |
13:55.09 | mozrat | yes |
13:55.16 | mozrat | is s/gary/floo/? |
13:56.12 | Leeds | yeah, I think so |
13:57.02 | z00dax | also be nice to have a xchat logfile input into beagle |
13:57.29 | z00dax | i suppose this also means that beagle index's are now another history-that-Govt-agency-can-look-through |
13:57.34 | mozrat | z00dax: I was thinking that - I was going to rsync my irssi logs to my laptop for beagle |
13:58.19 | Leeds | battlestar galactica is rather good |
13:58.36 | SlammerXP | the 2nd series hasn't been as good |
13:58.46 | SlammerXP | though the last episode is a big improvement |
13:58.50 | Leeds | I'm still working on the 1st |
14:00.55 | mozrat | z00dax: I have *a lot* of PDF files indexed using Beagle - great for searching for functions and error messages etc |
14:01.29 | z00dax | mozrat, i use google for that :) |
14:01.39 | mozrat | :) |
14:01.46 | z00dax | my hdd' on workstation + laptop are choked with VM's |
14:02.20 | Leeds | VMs? |
14:02.24 | z00dax | two things I want, thunderbird and xchat index's - that would be good, the Gaim log and filesystem index's are awesome as it is |
14:02.36 | z00dax | Leeds, loads of Xen and VMware Virtual Machines |
14:02.43 | Leeds | ah |
14:03.07 | z00dax | if anyone is interested http://www.karan.org/mock/Blank_Image.tar.gz |
14:03.35 | z00dax | thats a blank image you can throw under vmplayer, and just install your own os into it, no need for vmware workstation or server to create the Vm |
14:03.47 | mozrat | cool |
14:11.21 | Leeds | hmm... my router just rebooted... I wonder why |
14:27.47 | morsing | Hey - I won a years subscrition to Linux Magazine from FOSDEM! |
14:27.50 | morsing | :-) |
14:27.52 | mozrat | yay! |
14:28.03 | morsing | and mozrat |
14:28.28 | SlammerXP | morsing: you have my sympathies. |
14:28.48 | mozrat | Man, you excel at being a objectionable character |
14:28.50 | morsing | Ha ha - the website they've setup for it has broken down :-D |
14:28.54 | morsing | http://www.linux-magazine.com/Fosdem |
14:29.03 | SlammerXP | mozrat: me? :) |
14:29.12 | mozrat | SlammerXP: yep :-) |
14:29.19 | SlammerXP | i'm cute and cuddly really |
14:29.27 | morsing | No you're not! |
14:29.31 | SlammerXP | am too |
14:29.42 | SlammerXP | gerroff :) |
14:29.46 | morsing | SlammerXP: Do you and your brother Blapto cuddle? |
14:29.57 | SlammerXP | what's a blapto? |
14:30.05 | morsing | mozrat: Back me up here! |
14:30.38 | morsing | mozrat: Yes he is! |
14:31.46 | wethrin | heh |
14:32.01 | SlammerXP | bored. |
14:32.02 | wethrin | morsing: You won the subscription? |
14:32.03 | SlammerXP | slow day. |
14:34.21 | SlammerXP | tons of mail, just none for me |
14:35.22 | mozrat | ibot SlammerXP |
14:35.55 | mozrat | ibot SlammerXP is an objectionable character and brother of Blapto |
14:35.56 | ibot | okay, mozrat |
14:36.02 | mozrat | ibot Blapto |
14:36.03 | ibot | i guess blapto is the love of money |
14:36.18 | mozrat | ibot Blapto is also the brother of SlammerXP |
14:36.20 | ibot | okay, mozrat |
14:36.24 | mozrat | done |
14:36.30 | mozrat | It's official |
14:50.35 | wethrin | Apparently there's a dual Xeon 733 6U server being offered on London Freecycle |
14:50.58 | SlayerXP | no doubt some fool will think it's a bargin |
14:52.11 | SlayerXP | then they'll realise just how big 6u is :) |
14:53.36 | mozrat | fridge sized :) |
14:54.05 | wethrin | Only if it's a small fridge |
14:54.09 | SlayerXP | probbaly the sam cubic capacity as a small fridge, yes |
14:54.21 | SlayerXP | about the same effective processing power, too |
14:54.35 | wethrin | SlayerXP: So you're purely an amd64 man? |
14:54.43 | SlayerXP | yep |
14:54.54 | SlayerXP | except for appliance-format stuff |
14:55.45 | wethrin | right |
14:56.28 | SlayerXP | even then, someone's going to stick a turion onto a mini-itx board before long |
15:06.50 | stephanb2 | SlayerXP: are mini-itx'es only running on VIA C3s for the moment ? |
15:07.24 | SlayerXP | stephanb2: exclusively, afaik |
15:07.37 | SlayerXP | i don't recall seeing mini-itx format anything else |
15:08.59 | stephanb2 | i remember being tempted by that but then reading a 1GHz C3 was pretty much like a 400MHz PIII |
15:09.27 | stephanb2 | so i thought i would end up with a desktop machine running like a lousy laptop |
15:12.00 | SlayerXP | actually, they have a surprising amount of grunt |
15:14.26 | stephanb2 | `:-) |
15:14.51 | morsing | wethrin: Yes :-) |
15:15.02 | stephanb2 | so a C3 mobo with the MPEG-2 decoding chip can make a decent PVR |
15:15.14 | stephanb2 | i read there was support for that |
15:16.01 | stephanb2 | but then what's the advantadge vs. a Shuttle PC? cost? power consumption? |
15:16.23 | wethrin | morsing: Yes? |
15:16.37 | George | HELLO WETHRIN MY LOVELY |
15:16.47 | wethrin | Hello |
15:16.50 | morsing | 14:32 < wethrin> morsing: You won the subscription? |
15:16.59 | morsing | ibot sidle |
15:17.00 | George | wethrin: you're useless |
15:17.04 | wethrin | Muahaha |
15:17.10 | morsing | All students are useless |
15:17.12 | wethrin | morsing: Lucky you! |
15:17.25 | morsing | Drain on society |
15:17.37 | wethrin | Oi :-P |
15:20.33 | stephanb2 | SlayerXP: hmm looking at www.mini-itx.com there seems to b mobos 4 all sorts of cpus |
15:39.51 | SlayerXP | stephanb2: yes, but not for sale, yet |
15:40.15 | stephanb2 | aah |
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15:59.24 | morsing | puckman! |
16:09.49 | puckman | morsing! |
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16:10.01 | cbz | yuh |
16:14.02 | z00dax | errr |
16:14.13 | z00dax | the max allowance for 'gift' items in terms of value is £38 |
16:14.29 | z00dax | so anything > toothbrush is now custom's tax'd and/or VAT tax'ed |
16:32.04 | stephanb2 | so this designer thought she could put 40minutes of broadcast video footage on the server |
16:32.16 | stephanb2 | and now nobody can work |
16:33.02 | stephanb2 | the idea of chopping it into 10 mins files didnt obviously come across her brain |
16:33.15 | stephanb2 | or even borrowing a firewire drive for that job |
16:46.45 | stephanb2 | some people just have a 486 processor in their brainz |
16:58.38 | stephanb2 | gotta go in a minute |
16:58.49 | stephanb2 | sorry for ranting on the chan |
16:59.48 | cbz | No worries. We'll just increment the ETOOMUCHINFO count |
17:02.16 | stephanb2 | :-) |
17:02.23 | stephanb2 | gotto go |
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17:06.12 | z00dax | when's the next meetup ? |
17:07.05 | wethrin | When you organise one :) |
17:08.14 | z00dax | right, fishing trip out to sea of whitstable next friday then ? |
17:08.29 | z00dax | s/a of w/a off w/ |
17:08.45 | z00dax | 24th |
17:08.50 | z00dax | any takers for that ? |
17:08.58 | SlayerXP | i like whitstable |
17:09.05 | SlayerXP | i would, but I'm in the wrong country |
17:09.07 | z00dax | me too |
17:09.23 | z00dax | me too as in me too like it, but i am in the right country |
17:09.26 | cbz | what sort of fish? |
17:09.28 | SlayerXP | the used to be a great fish restaurant on the sea front, right by the port |
17:09.33 | SlayerXP | now there's a shit one |
17:09.38 | SlayerXP | the crab & winkle |
17:09.44 | cbz | and can i stay on shore and drink instead? |
17:09.52 | z00dax | heh, yeah - i know that place |
17:10.27 | SlayerXP | went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay downhill |
17:11.11 | SlayerXP | a man should not have to fetch his own cutlery in a restaurant |
17:11.42 | cbz | A man should have his cutlery brought to him by a hotje! |
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20:41.50 | z00dax | hey George, AndrewBlack |
20:47.02 | George | hey |
20:48.08 | AndrewBlack | hi there. I am about to do a practice exam question, so see you later :-) |
20:52.32 | George | exam??? |
20:54.21 | z00dax | AndrewBlack, take it easy |
20:54.35 | z00dax | George, know anyplace to get a cheap rack from ? |
20:54.56 | George | z00dax: the local brothel? |
20:56.52 | z00dax | not that kinda rack |
20:57.57 | George | z00dax: :P |
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21:10.21 | AndrewBlack | Done it - thats the easy bit. Difficult bit is the essay due in on Sat .... |
21:11.08 | George | AndrewBlack: are you at university? |
21:17.13 | AndrewBlack | Sort of - doing an open university course (Post grad diploma in computing) |
21:17.30 | George | heh |
21:17.30 | George | what's your main degree in? |
21:17.51 | AndrewBlack | I did maths, mainly pure |
21:18.27 | George | oooh |
21:18.29 | George | maths is good |
21:18.31 | George | which uni? |
21:18.46 | AndrewBlack | Cambridge (King's). |
21:18.52 | AndrewBlack | Rmeind we what you are planning to read |
21:18.56 | George | Computer Science |
21:19.18 | George | AndrewBlack: ah, so you're a tab unlike that wethrin filth |
21:19.19 | George | :) |
21:19.20 | AndrewBlack | Comp sci used to be a 3rd year only course. |
21:19.36 | George | heh |
21:19.49 | George | AndrewBlack: you must be heinously good at maths |
21:19.55 | AndrewBlack | They probably know 3 times as much now as they did |
21:20.10 | AndrewBlack | s/b/have been/ |
21:20.34 | George | AndrewBlack: :) |
21:20.36 | AndrewBlack | s s was for georges statement not mine ! |
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21:20.58 | George | AndrewBlack: my physics teacher did maths at cambridge and he's shit at maths :) |
21:21.18 | George | he got three thirds |
21:21.18 | George | lol |
21:22.05 | AndrewBlack | I did better than that ! |
21:22.09 | George | hehe |
21:22.12 | George | first? |
21:23.37 | AndrewBlack | One of the guys at the Perl workshop said Maurice Wilkes still lectures on history of computing. He must be about 90 |
21:26.26 | George | yeah |
21:26.29 | George | he's old. |
21:53.13 | George | 93 apparently |
21:53.17 | George | er, 92 |
21:53.30 | George | I'm 18 next week |
22:06.26 | z00dax | George, where's the drinks ? |
22:06.45 | George | z00dax: I'll be on a plane |
22:06.47 | z00dax | are you even likely to be in the area and able to make it into someplace sane so we can get lots of b33r into you |
22:06.49 | George | z00dax: bound for the east |
22:06.51 | z00dax | humf |
22:07.01 | z00dax | chicken |
22:07.01 | George | z00dax: flying out to taiwan on the night of the 23rd |
22:07.16 | George | z00dax: birthday on the 24th |
22:07.35 | z00dax | should we have drinks on the 22nd then ? |
22:07.45 | George | nah |
22:07.51 | George | still at school :) |
22:07.53 | George | school finishes on the 23rd :P |
22:08.08 | z00dax | hummm |
22:08.13 | z00dax | shame |
22:08.39 | z00dax | make sure you take enough sausages with you on your trip east |
22:09.05 | George | haha |
22:24.38 | morsing | George! |
22:25.03 | George | hey |
22:25.23 | morsing | George: Beer is on you next Friday then? |
22:25.48 | George | morsing: I'm not in the country you moron |
22:27.37 | morsing | George: Fucktwit |
22:52.10 | George | twitfuck |
22:53.44 | wethrin | *hic* |
22:59.03 | George | *cih* |
23:07.46 | cbz | soapy |
23:31.39 | z00dax | who uses uknova.com ? |
23:31.42 | wethrin | Me |
23:32.01 | z00dax | ok, my torrents wont start downloading ? |
23:32.11 | wethrin | Why not? |
23:32.12 | z00dax | i am behind a nat, do i need to get out and beyond that ? |
23:32.26 | wethrin | Yes. You need to port-forward ports 6881-6889 to your torrenting machine |
23:32.34 | cbz | http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/mickmariner/theplacetobe.jpg |
23:33.31 | z00dax | damn..... lemme try |
23:33.34 | wethrin | That'd be Penrith Station? |
23:33.39 | cbz | yuh |
23:33.42 | wethrin | Old news :) |
23:33.55 | cbz | heh, everyone is a critic |
23:34.41 | Leeds | you shouldn't need to forward the ports - I can't |
23:35.08 | z00dax | I've not need to do the ports previously - but then I'm not a big torrent user either |
23:35.30 | z00dax | could there be a client issue ? I am using bittorrent-3.something, the last one that ran with py2.2 |
23:35.36 | cbz | you can choose not to forward ports - your transfer rate will then be very slow though. |
23:35.48 | Leeds | you will normally get significantly better performance on torrents if you forward the ports, but it's not (normally) necessary |
23:35.58 | wethrin | z00dax: It should just work |
23:36.08 | wethrin | Does your torrent client give any errors? |
23:36.08 | George | and you can use any ports, not just 6881-6889 |
23:36.14 | Leeds | how long does it take for firefox to quit? |
23:36.15 | wethrin | George: Shush |
23:36.24 | wethrin | Leeds: ONE MEEEEELION SECONDS |
23:36.32 | George | wethrin: penis |
23:36.41 | wethrin | Whatever turns you on |
23:36.49 | George | wethrin: laptop |
23:36.52 | z00dax | wethrin, just that 'bad torrent file' |
23:37.14 | z00dax | so the torrent is either dead or the tracker has gone away |
23:38.36 | wethrin | z00dax: How old is the torrent file? |
23:38.48 | wethrin | uknova removes trackers after a month |
23:38.50 | Leeds | z00dax: I assume there's a particular reason you're using a pre-historic python? |
23:39.02 | z00dax | Leeds, thats a rhel2.1 machine |
23:39.07 | wethrin | George: You're using a laptop as a penis-warmer? |
23:39.13 | z00dax | Leeds, this weekend i'll upgrade that box to something newer |
23:39.17 | George | wetwtf? |
23:39.23 | George | wethrin: wtf? |
23:39.24 | Leeds | z00dax: I assume there's a particular reason you're using a prehistoric RHEL? :-) |
23:39.25 | wethrin | HA. |
23:39.33 | Leeds | (firefox is still quitting) |
23:40.15 | cbz | upgrading is what windows users do. |
23:40.46 | z00dax | Leeds, yeah - it was setup a few years back, and since its still getting security updates etc, i just let it run... |
23:40.55 | z00dax | plus its a k6-2 550,mhz machine |
23:41.04 | z00dax | i586 support is a big pain in the rear end these days |
23:41.28 | Leeds | <insert standard rant about people who rely on rpm so much that they're incapable of compiling a package themselves when the time comes> |
23:41.41 | Leeds | (firefox is still quitting) |
23:41.54 | cbz | s,rpm,deb, |
23:42.08 | Leeds | cbz: implied... |
23:42.25 | z00dax | :) - well, with an uptime of 400days, and i know its got all security updates ( minus kernel reboots ) - kinda gives me a semi warm fuzzy feeling |
23:42.28 | SlayerXP | ? |
23:42.42 | cbz | oh nothing .. |
23:42.56 | Leeds | z00dax: and that stops you upgrading python why? |
23:43.16 | cbz | whats wrong with slackware? |
23:43.47 | Leeds | will we hit a total of 5 minutes for firefox to quit? |
23:43.58 | Leeds | uh, 10 minutes - it's already pver 5 |
23:44.08 | SlayerXP | slackware is an excellent tool for new sysadmins |
23:44.08 | wethrin | cbz: Nothing. Slackware rocks |
23:44.19 | wethrin | Slackware will teach you about Unix |
23:44.29 | z00dax | Leeds, well, upgrading python on that machine would mean i no longer use the python specific fix's being sent out of redhat, also other apps - lots and lots of them - rely on that python |
23:44.41 | z00dax | i suppose i could build a newer python into /opt/py24/ or something.. |
23:44.41 | SlayerXP | "this is how we used to do things before we grew up and used debian" |
23:45.08 | Leeds | z00dax: are there really that many fixes in rhel's python 2.2 which aren't in the real 2.4? and if so, why? |
23:45.23 | SlayerXP | bed& |
23:45.28 | cbz | why upgrade? |
23:46.34 | z00dax | Leeds, upstream dont maintain py2.2 anymore really ? |
23:46.44 | z00dax | plus i meant more like all the redhat tools and the other apps on that box |
23:46.46 | Leeds | no, of course they don't |
23:46.51 | cbz | never upgrade unless you are forced to |
23:47.24 | cbz | To do otherwise exposes gentoo tendancies |
23:47.26 | Leeds | uh, in the modern world, it's perfectly possible and sane to have py2.2 for the legacy rh tools which require it, and py2.4 for anything vaguely modern |
23:47.42 | Leeds | (firefox is still quitting) |
23:47.44 | z00dax | Leeds, right. |
23:48.01 | wethrin | Leeds: Time to kill -9 |
23:48.16 | Leeds | nah, it is quitting... just being really really really slow about it |
23:48.18 | cbz | in the modern world one can get firefox to run for more than ten minutes |
23:48.32 | cbz | but yet also quit fast :) |
23:49.12 | Leeds | the problem on this machine (laptop) is that the disk appears to be pretty slow, so as soon as I start swapping performance falls through the floor, and as soon as I start thrashing, it loses about 90% of its speed |
23:49.42 | Leeds | plus, you know, firefox leaky memory like a sieve with very very big holes |
23:50.48 | Leeds | the machine is currently - according to top - spending something between 85% and 95% of its time waiting for IO |
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23:51.57 | Leeds | morning ldnblk |
23:52.25 | ldnblk | good evening leeds |
23:53.07 | ldnblk | how r thing over where u are ? |
23:53.29 | George | hey |
23:53.40 | Leeds | oh, firefox died! |
23:53.40 | George | Leeds: I'll be in Hong Kong next friday |
23:53.55 | Leeds | George: more than passing through the airport? |
23:53.58 | George | Leeds: nope |
23:54.00 | cbz | get the firefox build with the boem gc |
23:54.04 | George | Leeds: transiting on the way to taiwan |
23:54.22 | cbz | boehm |
23:54.23 | Leeds | George: ah, an internal Chinese flight to the rogue province... |
23:54.28 | George | heh |
23:54.41 | Leeds | how long will you be in the airport and when? |
23:54.51 | George | Leeds: no idea - why? |
23:54.58 | Leeds | just wondering... |
23:55.12 | George | sometime on friday I guess |
23:55.24 | Leeds | well, yes... who are you flying with? |
23:55.29 | George | parents |
23:55.33 | George | oh |
23:55.35 | George | cathaty |
23:55.37 | George | blah |
23:55.42 | George | cathay pacific |
23:56.11 | wethrin | To celebrate him legally being allowed to booze |
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23:57.00 | George | wethrin: if you want to waste money then go ahead |
23:57.03 | George | I won't be there |
23:57.28 | Leeds | from LHR, I assume |
23:57.40 | George | yeah |
23:57.45 | wethrin | Booze is not wasting money! |
23:57.52 | Leeds | that doesn't help - they have about 6 flights a day :-) |
23:58.07 | George | :P |
23:58.21 | Leeds | cbz: does that actually help? |
23:58.44 | George | wethrin: yes it is |
23:58.52 | wethrin | isn't! |
23:58.56 | George | is not |
23:59.01 | George | I'd much rather go to the theatre |
23:59.37 | psnl | wethrin: why haven't you beaten sense into George yet? |
23:59.42 | wethrin | psnl: I've tried! |
23:59.46 | ldnblk | for more of a spoon full of sugar george ? |
23:59.48 | George | theatre++ |
23:59.51 | George | ldnblk: nah |
23:59.54 | wethrin | But I can't beat him because he's neveer sociable enough to leave his ivory tower |
23:59.57 | George | ldnblk: billy elliot next probably |