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00:22.45*** join/#gllug mnvl (n=mnvl@host86-129-171-246.range86-129.btcentralplus.com)
00:23.12*** part/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk)
00:33.47wethrin~change 8 GBP to CAD
00:34.17wethrinWhat?
00:36.42*** join/#gllug wethrin (n=dankolb@ipv6.eco.li)
00:40.20wethrinhi George
00:49.18Leedstime to go to work
00:53.17Georgesleep time
00:53.50wethrinoh, yes
00:54.25z00daxits only 1
00:54.35z00daxnot nearly sleep time as yet
00:54.39wethrinI have labs in the morning
00:54.45wethrinNeed to be in department for 9
00:54.55wethrinThe sacrifices I have to make to educate the undergrads...
01:08.24psnlwethrin: you might see me leaving then
01:08.40wethrinpsnl: Leaving labs at 9?
01:10.12psnlwethrin: thats what happened last friday
01:10.30wethrinAh. Are you stuck in CM131a again?
01:14.22psnlyes
01:14.46wethrinboh. That sucks
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01:16.28wethrinAC! SHouldn't you be asleep?
01:16.37wethrinOr are you being a typical student and pulling an all-nighter?
01:20.23angelchild:D
01:20.25angelchildI'm sleeping shortly
01:20.30psnlpulling an all nighter
01:20.33angelchildbut I'm doing two presentations tomorrow
01:20.40angelchildso I've been finishing them off
01:21.12wethrinFun :)
01:21.23wethrinRight. I think I ought to sleep
01:21.24wethrinnight all
01:22.44angelchildnight!"
01:22.48psnlnight
01:24.13*** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@202.82.163.139)
02:09.42Leedsw313r57r455: what?
08:58.08Leedsanyone in (virtual) London awake?
08:58.26SlammerXPperhaps
09:13.57AndrewBlackyep - I am awake
09:23.54Leedsargh, fucking freebsd
09:24.07SlayerXPfreebsd has its uses
09:24.21SlayerXPfor comparing to a system that works properly, for example.
09:24.26LeedsI have a machine... which is going away soon...
09:25.02Leedssomething is wrong with it - either hardware or software - such that every now and again it completely saturates its disk bus and stops responding to anything which needs a disk access for a while
09:25.24SlayerXPthat sounds hardware-ish to me
09:26.10Leedsunfortunately, the hardware is in Texas
09:26.41Leedsmeanwhile I know I have new mail, I can see the header, but I can't connect to download the actual mail
09:27.12SlayerXPaha, sounds like a nice secure mail server
09:27.39Leedssecurity is an illusion
09:29.12Leedsit wasn't an immensely exciting mail, it says: "ok, I have changed the DNS on plum. "
09:30.19SlayerXPsounds like some kind of secret code
09:30.29SlayerXPyou'll be meeting up in St James' park later?
09:34.13Leedsnot really - it's a bit far to go
09:47.42morsing'morning
09:47.49morsingSlayerXP: What's happening there?
09:48.27SlayerXPmorsing: no idea, ask Leeds.  he's the one arranging covert meetings.
09:50.40pieThe Leeds are flying east this winter!
09:51.20morsingMmm... pie
09:55.36George"GoboLinux does not requires a packages database to be kept, since /Programs stores the files from each installed program version in a separate subdirectory. Contributed by André Detsch."
09:55.53Georgethat sounds really fucking nasty
10:09.32*** join/#gllug sn22_ (n=sn@m000073.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp)
10:57.48pieHowever this sounds cool: http://www.ext3cow.com/
11:00.50*** join/#gllug puckman (n=gerard@penguin.thebrewery-london.com)
11:03.20morsingpuckman!
11:04.40puckmanmorsing!
11:04.55SlayerXPi appear to be bored.
11:08.02pieOh?  What diameter?
11:08.24pieInterest yourself with this: http://www.ext3cow.com/
11:41.42*** join/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk)
11:41.54morsingcbz!
11:42.15cbzmorsing!
11:42.39morsingMmm... Faye
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11:46.47cbzfaye?
11:47.14arika-chanNot I
11:47.30cbzsomething that morsing said
11:47.36cbz11:42 <morsing> Mmm... Faye
11:47.36cbz11:46 *** arika-chan [n=Catalyst@jamesmorse.plus.com] has joined #gllug
11:47.47arika-chanah
11:47.49arika-chanI see
11:48.00arika-chanmorsing!
11:49.11morsingarika-chan!
11:49.23z00daxmorsing!
11:49.28morsingz00dax!
11:49.33z00daxarika-chan!
11:49.39piemorsing!
11:49.47arika-chanz00dax!
11:49.49arika-chanpie!
11:49.53piearika-chan!
11:49.59piez00dax!
11:50.11z00daxpie!
11:50.14morsingpie!
11:50.20morsingwethrin!
11:50.24arika-chanwethrin!
11:50.26morsingz00dax!
11:50.30morsingcbz!
11:50.33arika-chanSlayerXP!
11:50.37arika-chancbz!
11:50.43cbzpie!
11:50.45cbzarika-chan!
11:50.47cbzmorsing!
11:50.49arika-chanEveryone but George!
11:50.54cbzBlapto!
11:51.01pie!George
11:51.08z00daxmorsing!
11:51.10z00daxwethrin!
11:51.18piecbz!
11:51.22z00daxcbz!
11:51.27cbzz00dax!
11:52.40morsingarika-chan: :-D
11:54.13wethrinhello!
11:55.07arika-chanthat was fun :D
11:55.26wethrinIndeed
12:15.49morsingwethrin: Is it cold up north?
12:16.56wethrinIt's currently snowing
12:39.04morsingDoes anyone want some 72 pin memory?
12:39.31wethrinWhat sort?
12:39.46morsing72 pin
12:39.58wethrinWhat sort?
12:39.59wethrin:)
12:40.03arika-chandead memory is useful for stirring things
12:40.03wethrinEDO? FPM?
12:40.06morsing?
12:40.13wethrin60ns? 70ns?
12:40.15morsingFPMI believe but not sure
12:40.23morsingProbably 60 but I'm not sure
12:40.57wethrinIf the chip number ends in -6, it'll be 60ns
12:43.37morsingOk, 2 stick of 60ns Kingston
12:43.50wethrinHmm
12:44.06morsingDon't know if EDO or not or what size but I believe they must be either 16 or8 MB
12:44.26wethrinHmm. Don't think I can make use of them, then
12:44.43z00daxmorsing, what spec ?
12:45.18morsingz00dax: Don't know
12:45.36morsingThe other two are SEC 70ns
12:45.45morsing2Mx32?
12:47.23morsingAnyone interested in a Pentium 100MHz or a PPro 200MHz?
12:47.26morsingCPU
12:47.42morsingAnd I'm scrapping my PowerPC as well
12:47.52wethrinPowerPC, you say?
12:47.55wethrinTell me more...
12:48.16z00daxppc ?
12:48.49morsingSlightly defective, 601e CPU and 64MB memory
12:48.50*** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@ipvpn095206.netvigator.com)
12:48.56morsing1GB 50pin SCSI disk
12:48.59morsingLeeds!
12:49.17Leedsmorsing:
12:49.51wethrinmorsing: SCSI disk would be useful for me
12:49.59wethrinmorsing: Is the PPC an old Mac?
12:50.10morsingwethrin: No
12:50.17z00dax601 prolly a rs6k
12:50.24morsingIndeed
12:50.59morsingThe PPro has 64MB 72 pin memory as well. 60ns EDO I think
12:51.18wethrinMmm. RS6k :)
12:51.37wethrinBut I already have an rubbish RS6k at home
12:51.49Leedsand I have a rubbish sparc at home...
12:51.54wethrinI think I might convert it into a serial terminal machine
12:51.55wethrinUm
12:51.57wethrinserial console
12:51.59morsingwethrin: Please let me know very soon and I can bring some of this stuff with me next week
12:52.12morsingwethrin: The rs6k might not work.
12:54.18wethrinmorsing: When do you plan to come next week?
12:54.25wethrinThere's a UKUUG conference going in in the middle of it
12:54.58wethrinI can use the SCSI disk. I think I'll pass on the RS6k, though
14:10.32morsingwethrin: When the weather is good
14:32.46psnlmorsing: I'm interested, but I live a long way away
14:34.35cbzsssss.
14:35.15cbzwhat was the PowerPc originally?
14:35.20cbzboxwise
14:39.08cbzOh .. RS6K
14:52.29wethrinmorsing: I have no idea when the weather's going to be good
14:52.33wethrinJune, probably :)
14:52.38wethrinmorsing: How large is the RS6k?
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15:16.56morsingwethrin: It's a desktop
15:18.49wethrinOoh
15:18.50wethrinbiab
15:29.08Leedsblah
15:29.30Leedssomeone fancy doing me a favour?
15:29.35arika-chandepends what it involves
15:30.00arika-chansorry, i think I'm a bit too dead to do favours :(
15:30.32Leedsjust a quick look at http://www.pictures365.co.uk and http://new.pictures365.co.uk and let me know if you see any differenceis
15:31.39arika-chancan't see any immediately
15:31.58Leedsand they both seem equally alive?
15:32.03new2unixleeds: new.pictures365.co.uk does not resolve
15:32.04arika-chanyup
15:32.26Leedsah, fscking DNS
15:35.23Georgehrmm
15:35.44Leedsnew2unix: any better?
15:40.06new2unixLeeds: nope.
15:40.35Leedshmm... TTL...
15:42.24Leedsnew2unix: what do you get if you dig new.picture365.co.uk ns0.j-colo.net and ns1.j-colo.net
15:43.14z00daxLeeds, did you update the serial on zone ?
15:43.21Leedssorry, that's pictures365.co.uk
15:43.43z00daxthat resolves to 67.18.166.18
15:43.45Leedsz00dax: yes, I did, but there's a nameserver move going on at the same time, *and* it looks like named wasn't actually running on one of the nameservers...
15:45.04Leedsboth the nameservers should now be serving the right data, but there is a third nameserver which may still be seen by some people, which may be serving the wrong data
15:55.07SlayerXPi'll hos tyour dns for you :)
16:02.34z00daxi think its already hos'ed
16:03.43new2unixLeeds: ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> new.picture365.co.uk
16:03.44new2unix;; global options:  printcmd
16:03.44new2unix;; Got answer:
16:03.44new2unix;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 41947
16:03.44new2unix;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
16:03.44new2unix;; QUESTION SECTION:
16:03.46new2unix;new.picture365.co.uk.          IN      A
16:03.48new2unix;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
16:03.50new2unixco.uk.                  10800   IN      SOA     ns1.nic.uk. hostmaster.nominet.org.uk. 1142524941 7200 300 2419200 172800
16:03.53new2unix;; Query time: 1030 msec
16:03.55new2unix;; SERVER: 192.168.101.1#53(192.168.101.1)
16:03.57new2unix;; WHEN: Thu Mar 16 16:03:06 2006
16:13.06Leedsnew2unix: as I said - pictures365.co.uk not picture365.co.uk
16:24.26*** part/#gllug stephanb2 (n=chatzill@64.236.9.165)
16:32.13Leedsg'night all
16:34.43mozratHello
16:35.28mozratdoes anyone else see that www.gllug.org.uk has fallen out of DNS?
16:35.49wethrinAhhh
16:35.50wethrinIt's hit you too
16:36.01wethrinIt happened here (Durham)
16:36.32mozratanyone doing anything about it?
16:36.48wethrinAlthough I can still get to it from hades
16:37.11mozratthe MX records still seem to be there (unless my work DNS server is still caching them)
16:37.24wethrinCould be - query the .org servers
16:38.37wethrinhost -t ns gives dns[01].positive-internet.com as the authoritative nameservers for the gllug.org.uk domain
16:52.15z00daxmozrat, it gives me an A record...
16:52.24mozratz00dax: www ?
16:53.23z00dax[kbsingh@base ~]$ dig www.gllug.org.uk | grep IN
16:53.23z00dax;www.gllug.org.uk.              IN      A
16:53.23z00daxwww.gllug.org.uk.       10800   IN      CNAME   www.gllug.ukfsn.org.
16:53.23z00daxwww.gllug.ukfsn.org.    60      IN      A       217.158.120.142
16:53.31mozrathmm
16:53.49mozratHMM!
16:53.51mozratworks now
16:53.55mozratmaybe it was me
16:54.19mozratcan you get planet.gllug.org.uk in a browser?
16:54.35z00daxja
16:54.41mozratI suck
16:55.30z00daxif you say so
16:55.37z00dax:p
16:55.45mozrat:)
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17:04.36Blaptowethrin, you about?
17:04.38wethrinYes
17:04.45BlaptoHow was ignobel?
17:04.52wethrinGreat!
17:04.58BlaptoExcellent
17:05.02BlaptoSeeing it tomorrow :D
17:05.03wethrinA good laugh
17:05.06wethrinGood man!
17:05.09wethrinTwice, isn't it? :)
17:05.45BlaptoWell, yes.
17:05.47BlaptoAnd lunch
17:06.19wethrinMmm.Lunch
17:07.17BlaptoMmmmm
17:26.15morsingbeer
17:26.30morsingmozrat?
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23:53.38morsingLeeds!
23:54.10morsingWell, bed time
23:58.26Leedsgood morning and good night

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