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| 08:28.15 | Leeds | hello any/all |
| 08:29.34 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 08:29.45 | morsing | JAV! |
| 08:31.07 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 08:31.15 | morsing | Anyone seen wethrin around lately? |
| 08:31.22 | morsing | ~seen rhowe |
| 08:31.27 | ibot | rhowe <i=rhowe@xiao.siksai.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 16d 18h 57m 32s ago, saying: 'bye bye siksai.co.uk'. |
| 08:31.33 | Leeds | he was around yesterday, I think |
| 08:31.38 | Leeds | wethrin, that is, not rhowe |
| 08:31.52 | Leeds | ~seen wethrin |
| 08:31.53 | ibot | wethrin is currently on #gllug (16h 43m 33s) #classiccmp (16h 43m 33s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 12h 3m 41s, last said: 'If the machine was working, maybe'. |
| 08:32.21 | Leeds | anyway, it's nice to see that my windows loathing is actually not 100% irrational |
| 08:33.34 | morsing | Cool |
| 08:33.36 | Leeds | one of the girls in the office has been looking for the windows guy - who is out in the field for the afternoon - because her XP machine keeps blue-screening and she's getting frustrated/upset at it - would like to go back to 2k, which she had before and which was more stable |
| 08:33.37 | morsing | Why? |
| 08:34.20 | Leeds | I think there is a PC replacement programme going on - a couple of machines are being replaced each month with newer, XP-running Dell machines... I think she got replaced and isn't happy |
| 08:36.54 | morsing | Did you make her happy? |
| 08:37.04 | morsing | What does she look like? |
| 08:37.55 | Leeds | I didn't make her happy, and she looks like http://www.wanderingjew.co.uk/newphotos/sorted/HK/picture93.html in the dark top |
| 08:38.48 | morsing | How come you have pictures of everyone down there? |
| 08:38.58 | morsing | Can you get me a picture of Faye? |
| 08:39.05 | Leeds | I don't know Faye |
| 08:39.12 | morsing | Works for Camelot |
| 08:39.22 | Leeds | I know that much about her, yes |
| 08:42.48 | SlayerXP | every single time I've seen XP bluescreen, it's been either a) a hardware fault or b) people installing unsigned drivers. |
| 08:43.03 | SlayerXP | 95% of cases being "a" |
| 08:47.59 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 08:48.08 | SlayerXP | yes? |
| 08:48.35 | morsing | 'morning |
| 08:48.44 | SlayerXP | it is |
| 08:48.47 | morsing | How's the weather where you are? |
| 08:48.58 | morsing | And what did you have for breakfast? |
| 08:48.59 | SlayerXP | bright sunshine, clear blue skies |
| 08:49.06 | SlayerXP | i don't eat breakfast |
| 08:49.07 | morsing | Nice |
| 08:49.10 | SlayerXP | -1.3c |
| 08:49.11 | morsing | Poor you |
| 08:49.12 | Leeds | 'foggy' here... what they call smog in most of the world |
| 08:49.25 | morsing | Leeds: what did you have for breakfast? |
| 08:49.27 | Leeds | 90% humidity, 21C |
| 08:49.35 | Leeds | weetabix and a couple of toasted bagels |
| 08:49.52 | morsing | Mmm... Bagel |
| 08:50.26 | SlayerXP | should get email #15,000 today |
| 08:56.02 | Leeds | and I had a takeaway beefburger for lunch :-) |
| 09:15.15 | *** join/#gllug cup (n=alex@netvoya-adsl.demon.co.uk) |
| 09:40.29 | Leeds | and apparently my little cousin got a black mark on her report card from school today... |
| 09:41.21 | Leeds | she's failing jigsaw... |
| 09:48.55 | George | lol |
| 09:49.23 | George | how old is your cousin? |
| 09:49.35 | Leeds | 2.5 |
| 09:49.39 | George | ah |
| 09:49.44 | George | they have report cards for 2.5 year olds? |
| 09:50.08 | Leeds | THAT'S SORT OF THE POINT OF THE STORY |
| 09:50.09 | Leeds | oops |
| 09:50.51 | SlayerXP | may as well throw her in prison now |
| 09:51.02 | SlayerXP | she's cleary a wrong 'un |
| 09:51.05 | SlayerXP | clearly |
| 09:51.13 | Leeds | nah, they're going to get her a tutor, make sure she gets her grades up by the end of the year |
| 09:52.17 | SlayerXP | she got a black mark in German? or string theory? or helicopter piloting? |
| 09:52.31 | George | string theory is a load of bollocks |
| 09:52.59 | SlayerXP | George: oh? what's your objection to it? |
| 09:53.10 | George | it's boring :) |
| 09:53.23 | Leeds | SlayerXP: no, in jigsaw puzzles |
| 09:53.23 | SlayerXP | or that basis, george, you're a load of bollocks |
| 09:53.30 | George | SlayerXP: yes, yes I am |
| 09:54.55 | SlayerXP | so, why are you not all signing up for my mail filtering service? |
| 09:57.06 | Leeds | SlayerXP: because I'm in the middle of trying to setup my own mail system at the moment? |
| 09:57.31 | Leeds | I would happily run it all through you if I wasn't concerned you'd start charging at some point... |
| 10:00.31 | SlayerXP | of course I'll start charging |
| 10:00.51 | SlayerXP | jsut not very much |
| 10:00.52 | SlayerXP | just |
| 10:01.28 | George | I HATE MATHS |
| 10:03.22 | wethrin | hello |
| 10:05.18 | Leeds | wethrin: really? |
| 10:05.23 | wethrin | what? |
| 10:13.52 | wethrin | but it worked? |
| 10:14.28 | Leeds | seems to |
| 10:17.55 | Leeds | on the other hand, I really shouldn't laugh when I see a back-and-forth email thread about buying a license for Adobe Acrobat (i.e. PDF publisher) for Sri Lanka - apparently the agent is going to get back to them tomorrow, because it takes them overnight to find out how much to charge for off-the-shelf software... |
| 10:18.38 | Leeds | I do have to restrain myself from trying to rig something up with cups and ghostscript... :-) |
| 10:18.44 | wethrin | heh |
| 10:18.53 | wethrin | Distiller has a lot of features that ghostscript doesn't |
| 10:19.24 | Leeds | oh sure... but do you think these monkeys are using any of them? |
| 10:21.41 | Leeds | the other thing is that... hmm... one mo |
| 10:21.43 | wethrin | I guess not :) |
| 10:22.31 | morsing | wethrin: I can't come this weekend - sorry :-( |
| 10:22.48 | wethrin | that's okay |
| 10:22.49 | Leeds | no, I'll give them credit... |
| 10:23.28 | Leeds | I guess the only-containing-a-few-bytes-of-data hundreds of kB spreadsheets going around aren't entirely the fault of Excel |
| 10:23.37 | wethrin | True |
| 10:24.56 | Leeds | partly the fault of the people who don't realise that Excel always creates 3 sheets in one file, but you should really delete the other two most of the time |
| 10:25.05 | Leeds | or who realise that and just don't care |
| 10:26.32 | morsing | *sigh* |
| 10:27.16 | Leeds | morsing: so did you buy that car in the end? |
| 10:29.10 | morsing | Leeds: Which car? |
| 10:29.40 | Leeds | ebay |
| 10:29.47 | morsing | This one? |
| 10:29.48 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/billed.php?STED=Chevelle |
| 10:29.50 | morsing | Yup |
| 10:30.22 | Leeds | and it's not blown up yet? |
| 10:30.51 | morsing | No?! Why would it? |
| 10:31.42 | Leeds | because it's a banger bought on ebay? |
| 10:32.05 | SlayerXP | Jason Clifford buys cars on ebay |
| 10:32.11 | Leeds | 'nuff saifd |
| 10:32.11 | SlayerXP | he spends no more the £100 |
| 10:32.18 | morsing | Leeds: It's not a banger |
| 10:32.25 | SlayerXP | and when it goes bang, he throws it away and buys another one |
| 10:32.53 | Leeds | SlayerXP: which is all well and good until it goes bang when you're doing 40 mph with your son in the car |
| 10:33.03 | morsing | My BMW was bought on ebay as well |
| 10:33.13 | morsing | It's not a banger either |
| 10:33.53 | Leeds | hometime... |
| 10:34.05 | Leeds | (that's wishful, not actual) |
| 10:39.21 | Leeds | my laptop came out of suspend over 560 minutes ago... |
| 10:50.40 | morsing | Leeds: Thank god... |
| 10:53.08 | Leeds | ? |
| 10:57.19 | morsing | Leeds: ? |
| 10:58.42 | Leeds | morsing: for what are you thanking the creator of the universe? |
| 10:58.56 | morsing | 10:39 < Leeds> my laptop came out of suspend over 560 minutes ago... |
| 10:59.18 | Leeds | translation: I've now been at work for 9 and a half hours |
| 11:00.08 | Leeds | and I fancy going home |
| 11:00.12 | morsing | Ahh... |
| 11:00.15 | morsing | beer |
| 11:00.39 | wethrin | beer? |
| 11:00.45 | Leeds | possiblu |
| 11:00.58 | Leeds | uh, possibly :-) |
| 11:13.23 | *** join/#gllug puckman (n=gerard@penguin.thebrewery-london.com) |
| 11:14.48 | Leeds | puckman! |
| 11:22.41 | morsing | Oi Leeds ! |
| 11:23.35 | morsing | Leeds: You never answered my question yesterday |
| 11:23.55 | Leeds | what was your question yesterday? |
| 11:24.19 | morsing | Should a door fitter charge 350 pounds to fit a door in 6 hours? |
| 11:24.45 | Leeds | how many doors can a door fitter fit if a door fitter fits doors? |
| 11:25.04 | SlayerXP | morsing: sounds about right. I was charged 300 to fit two once |
| 11:25.11 | morsing | Two? |
| 11:25.16 | SlayerXP | took him about 9 hours in total |
| 11:25.24 | Leeds | doesn't sound appalling out, for UK prices |
| 11:25.26 | morsing | Well, he fitted an external door and a small window |
| 11:25.37 | morsing | More than 50 /hour? |
| 11:25.43 | SlayerXP | and it was $bloke plus assistant |
| 11:25.44 | morsing | I'm in the srong proffession |
| 11:25.45 | puckman | Ello |
| 11:25.52 | morsing | puckman! |
| 11:26.07 | puckman | morsing! |
| 11:26.24 | puckman | Oh yeah? |
| 11:26.37 | Leeds | morsing: you must have heard the jokes about doctors quitting to become plumbers? |
| 11:27.04 | morsing | Leeds: Clearly not a joke! |
| 11:28.06 | Leeds | doctor calls a plumber... when he sees the bill, he tells the plumber he's amazed that the plumbers bill is bigger than his, as a doctor... the plumber replies that yes, it's more than he used to charge back when he was a doctor as well |
| 11:29.48 | morsing | What education do I need to become a door fitter? |
| 11:30.08 | z00dax | morsing, make sure you do a HOWTO when you're done... i am next in queue |
| 11:31.46 | morsing | So, roughly 400/day, 2000/week, 10000/mth (incl. some weekend work), 120k/year |
| 11:33.05 | Leeds | but you're self-employed, so insurance (national and private), tax, etc. etc. |
| 11:33.24 | SlayerXP | holidays are very expensive when you're self employed |
| 11:33.27 | SlayerXP | as is being ill |
| 11:34.16 | SlayerXP | as are days when you're not earning |
| 11:34.47 | Leeds | SlayerXP: so how is the spam business then? |
| 11:34.59 | SlayerXP | slow |
| 11:35.08 | Leeds | strange, really |
| 11:35.14 | SlayerXP | I'm thinking of begina really big mailing list and sending out a bunch of emails advertising the service |
| 11:35.23 | SlayerXP | begina? |
| 11:35.30 | SlayerXP | getting |
| 11:35.58 | SlayerXP | i have, err, about 10 people trying it out |
| 11:36.01 | Leeds | I saw an ad for that sort of thing today... 5 million email addresses for a couple of hundred $, I think |
| 11:40.14 | Leeds | SlayerXP: at some point soon I may make a serious effort to turn my work into a customer of yours... |
| 11:40.33 | SlayerXP | do so today, on a free trial basis |
| 11:40.56 | SlayerXP | 2 weeks for nothing. |
| 11:41.12 | Leeds | I can't - I don't have access to the DNS... I probably could do, but the guy who knows the details has gone home... it's heading for 8pm here... |
| 11:41.24 | SlayerXP | phone him up and ask |
| 11:41.43 | Leeds | I don't have his number |
| 11:41.53 | Leeds | as a serious question, what would happen after the 2 weeks? |
| 11:41.54 | SlayerXP | tsk |
| 11:42.11 | Leeds | I could *get* his number, but I'm not that bothered right now |
| 11:42.25 | SlayerXP | you stay paying me money, or I kidnap all your mail and sell the content yo your competitors |
| 11:42.32 | SlayerXP | s/stay/start/ |
| 11:42.40 | SlayerXP | s/yo/to/ |
| 11:42.47 | SlayerXP | bah |
| 11:43.02 | Leeds | if you can't get a regex right, why should I trust you with my mail? :-) |
| 11:43.12 | SlayerXP | cos mail servers don't use regex |
| 11:43.22 | Leeds | they could do |
| 11:43.31 | SlayerXP | true |
| 11:43.31 | Leeds | anyway, I meant, seriously, what sort of money? |
| 11:43.42 | SlayerXP | for what volume of mail? |
| 11:44.18 | Leeds | numbers-wise, maybe a couple of 1000 per day |
| 11:44.43 | SlayerXP | 50 per month, is a fair ballpark |
| 11:45.00 | Leeds | 50 what? :-) |
| 11:45.02 | Leeds | HKD? |
| 11:45.05 | SlayerXP | gbp |
| 11:45.15 | SlayerXP | plus VAT |
| 11:45.31 | Leeds | you charge VAT to a non-EU customer? |
| 11:45.56 | SlayerXP | plus VAT where applicable |
| 11:48.15 | Leeds | ah |
| 11:48.49 | Leeds | hometime... but we may talk about this further... |
| 11:48.54 | SlayerXP | okay. |
| 11:49.34 | Leeds | the boss would like to do something about the spam... I mentioned that there's not much I can do if they want to keep using the exchange server here, as they do... |
| 11:49.47 | Leeds | I really don't want to get into setting-up and maintaining a local filtering proxy |
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| 12:45.48 | wethrin | Ooh. Gllug meeting on the 22nd. I might even be able to make it. Just not for much of the pub... |
| 12:46.12 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 12:46.23 | wethrin | er. Might be an Gllug meet on the 22nd |
| 12:46.25 | morsing | 22nd? That's a Wednesday?! |
| 12:46.27 | wethrin | (April) |
| 12:46.32 | morsing | Ahh... |
| 12:46.42 | morsing | Anyone going to London.pm this week? |
| 12:47.32 | wethrin | quite a few people |
| 12:48.13 | morsing | You? |
| 12:48.14 | MacRohard | what is london.pm? another open source drinking group? |
| 12:48.49 | morsing | mozrat: You going? |
| 12:48.58 | morsing | wethrin: What happened to rhowe? |
| 12:51.10 | wethrin | He's moved in with his other half |
| 12:51.17 | wethrin | MacRohard: London Perlmongers |
| 12:51.27 | morsing | wethrin: So no more IRC? |
| 12:51.32 | wethrin | MacRohard: This Thursday is their tech meet |
| 12:51.37 | wethrin | morsing: He should be on from work |
| 12:51.39 | morsing | ping mozrat |
| 12:51.46 | morsing | ~seen rhowe |
| 12:51.49 | ibot | rhowe <i=rhowe@xiao.siksai.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 16d 23h 17m 54s ago, saying: 'bye bye siksai.co.uk'. |
| 12:53.04 | puckman | Poor mozzer is worked to the bone as he's alone at work, other guys have holiday or sick, cant remember which one :P |
| 12:54.56 | wethrin | Ahhh. Maybe he can't IRC directly from work |
| 12:59.55 | puckman | Yes he can but i reckon hes in a meeting or just not checking as hes swamped |
| 13:00.23 | morsing | ~mozrat |
| 13:00.25 | ibot | rumour has it, mozrat is a geek, or pissed, or not morsing ALIVE!!! |
| 13:00.31 | morsing | ~seen mozrat |
| 13:00.34 | ibot | mozrat is currently on #gllug (1d 10h 35m 21s). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 1d 3h 15m 44s, last said: '...and no wiser'. |
| 13:00.45 | morsing | ibot wake mozrat |
| 13:00.46 | ibot | mozrat: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 13:07.02 | mozrat | hello morsing |
| 13:07.06 | morsing | Hi :-) |
| 13:07.11 | mozrat | :) |
| 13:07.13 | morsing | You going to london.pm? |
| 13:07.20 | mozrat | on thursday> |
| 13:07.21 | mozrat | ? |
| 13:07.24 | morsing | Yes |
| 13:07.34 | mozrat | No, but only because I have the day off that day |
| 13:07.35 | wethrin | lunchtime! |
| 13:07.40 | mozrat | Sorry :( |
| 13:07.43 | morsing | :( |
| 13:07.53 | morsing | So where are you going? |
| 13:08.11 | mozrat | Dunno yet - might go somewhere - still trying to decide |
| 13:08.19 | mozrat | might do some stuff at home |
| 13:08.23 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 13:08.26 | morsing | London Eye? |
| 13:08.30 | morsing | JAV! |
| 13:12.09 | mozrat | morsing: did you start your new job yet? |
| 13:29.05 | morsing | Next Monday |
| 13:29.17 | mozrat | so you are off at the moment? |
| 13:30.53 | morsing | Yes |
| 13:31.21 | mozrat | nice |
| 13:31.37 | mozrat | been watching daytime TV in your pants all day? |
| 13:31.48 | morsing | Mmmm... Ricky Lake |
| 13:31.58 | mozrat | :) |
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| 13:53.08 | stephanb2 | hello everybody |
| 13:53.08 | mozrat | hey stephanb2 |
| 13:53.26 | stephanb2 | hey mozrat |
| 13:53.33 | stephanb2 | hey z00dax |
| 14:01.47 | morsing | stephanb2! |
| 14:01.57 | stephanb2 | morsing! |
| 14:04.11 | SlayerXP | that's why I use skype |
| 14:04.15 | SlayerXP | it just works |
| 14:05.17 | stephanb2 | SlayerXP: thats true for voice. however no video support on Linux or Win2k yet. |
| 14:06.17 | stephanb2 | i imagine there will never be video on Win2k as it is the case with Windowz Messenger |
| 14:07.19 | z00dax | stephanb2, hey |
| 14:07.33 | stephanb2 | z00dax: hey, hows asterisk ;-) |
| 14:08.06 | z00dax | stephanb2, didnt get around to finishing what i wanted it to do.. |
| 14:08.11 | z00dax | maybe this weekend if i get the time |
| 14:09.14 | stephanb2 | im researching how to get ekiga (ex. gnomemeeting) to talk to windows messenger behind NAT |
| 14:10.06 | stephanb2 | so far it doesnt look easy. i may try to do it through VPN |
| 14:15.14 | mozrat | stephanb2: I have SIP working with NAT |
| 14:15.57 | mozrat | http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/03/18/using-ekiga-with-sipgate-uk |
| 14:16.07 | stephanb2 | mozrat: how does your router open the UDP ports dynamically? |
| 14:16.47 | mozrat | stephanb2: I didn't need any special router configuration but you need to tell your phone which method you are using for NAT, and also that it is indeed NAT'd |
| 14:17.08 | mozrat | it makes a difference to the way it registers with the SIP proxy |
| 14:17.24 | z00dax | mozrat, did you use asterisk@home or did you get asterisk yourself ? |
| 14:17.35 | mozrat | so I think you need to look at the phone config rather than the firewall |
| 14:18.00 | mozrat | z00dax: when I installed it for a private job I used the full version |
| 14:18.11 | mozrat | but asterisk@home is great |
| 14:18.19 | stephanb2 | mozrat: interesting |
| 14:18.24 | mozrat | with the CRM integration and the web admin stuff |
| 14:18.54 | z00dax | not many people, i know, need CRM at home... |
| 14:19.19 | mozrat | z00dax: no, but you get the ability to import your addressbook and phone people by clicking on a link |
| 14:19.24 | mozrat | rather than punching numbers etc |
| 14:20.06 | z00dax | true |
| 14:20.31 | mozrat | stephanb2: are you calling this windows messenger client via a SIP proxy or directly to that client? |
| 14:22.08 | stephanb2 | mozrat: sip gate will only operate with audio though, i won't get video calls through |
| 14:22.26 | morsing | Check it! |
| 14:22.29 | mozrat | stephanb2: yeah, I scrolled up after seeing you say about SIP and NAT |
| 14:22.46 | morsing | Check it! |
| 14:22.48 | mozrat | I think your task is going to be tougher than just plain SIP |
| 14:30.21 | stephanb2 | mozrat: so far i solved the problenm in H.323 by setting up a VPN |
| 14:30.57 | stephanb2 | mozrat: i thought SIP would make my life easier, but it seems that, like H.323, it hasnt been designed with NAT in mind :-( |
| 14:31.43 | stephanb2 | this why i understand that skype is so popular |
| 14:40.58 | mozrat | yes |
| 14:41.17 | mozrat | shame it is potentially monopolistic |
| 15:02.05 | z00dax | would STUN come in handy here ? |
| 15:03.15 | morsing | Paul Gawthorpe is leaving |
| 15:03.28 | SlayerXP | :) |
| 15:03.39 | SlayerXP | z00dax: btw, still no mail flow. |
| 15:03.47 | z00dax | ooh.. lets check that mail thing now |
| 15:04.06 | stephanb2 | z00dax: STUN is always handy, but unfortunately windoze clients don't support it (netmeeting win-messenger) |
| 15:04.26 | stephanb2 | z00dax: i just wish there was a port of gnomemeeting/ekiga for win32 |
| 15:04.47 | z00dax | run vmware, and run linux! |
| 15:05.11 | stephanb2 | not sure the webcam would work through vmware |
| 15:06.51 | z00dax | might be worth checking is vmware lets you share usb now, there was a time when it didnt |
| 15:07.13 | stephanb2 | let's face it, skype have done it at the right moment. everybody's on adsl but behing firewalls or nat routers |
| 15:07.30 | stephanb2 | only shame they use proprietary stuff |
| 15:08.22 | stephanb2 | also microsoft portrait was a move in the right direction (fixed udp ports = easy config), but afaik not supporting an open video codec |
| 15:09.09 | George | hello people |
| 15:09.15 | stephanb2 | hello George |
| 15:21.00 | boudiccas | how do i drop to init level 3 please? |
| 15:21.56 | wethrin | init 3 |
| 15:22.21 | boudiccas | presumably as su? :) [btw, ty] |
| 15:29.45 | SlayerXP | z00dax: I see mail. |
| 15:33.07 | z00dax | SlayerXP, hehe, and rejects at the other end ? |
| 15:33.55 | SlayerXP | z00dax: with greylisting enabled, very little will get as far as the spam and virus checkers. |
| 15:34.27 | z00dax | SlayerXP, ok... I've not setup relay at the other end as yet - doing that in a min, hope you machine hangs onto mail that long |
| 15:34.34 | SlayerXP | z00dax: I can turn it off for you for starters, so you can see how much is being caught. Stuff prevented by greylisting will not show up on the domain reports. |
| 15:39.56 | *** part/#gllug boudiccas (n=boudicca@88-108-121-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 15:44.23 | z00dax | SlayerXP, nope - just clean it all up |
| 15:44.38 | SlayerXP | okay. |
| 15:44.52 | z00dax | lets see what makes it over to the other end... nothing, beyond greylisting, is suppressed right ? just marked ? |
| 15:45.24 | SlayerXP | spam and viruses are rejected. |
| 15:46.37 | *** join/#gllug boudiccas (n=boudicca@88-108-121-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 15:47.08 | SlayerXP | barely 3% of spam and viral mail will make it that far, though |
| 15:49.13 | z00dax | humm ? |
| 15:49.30 | z00dax | I dont want spam or viri to be rejected, i want them to come through - but marked as spam or virus |
| 15:49.39 | z00dax | except whats dropped by the greylisting setup |
| 15:49.56 | SlayerXP | I'm afraid we can't do that, yet. |
| 15:50.15 | z00dax | o^O |
| 15:50.27 | SlayerXP | well, let's look at your motivations |
| 15:50.34 | SlayerXP | why do you want a copy of a virus? |
| 15:50.36 | z00dax | while in this case, i dont really care that much |
| 15:51.09 | z00dax | but no business worth anything, is ever really going to trust someone else to make the decision on whats really spam - and just reject it outright |
| 15:51.31 | z00dax | SlayerXP, a report be nice, the sort that mailscanner does out of the box |
| 15:51.32 | SlayerXP | z00dax: err, yes, they do. |
| 15:52.00 | z00dax | no one that i know, does that thing. even messagelabs clients mostly get a lot of their email through |
| 15:52.10 | z00dax | once you build a level of trust, an option might be turn it off later |
| 15:52.10 | SlayerXP | from experience, the reports generated quickly get boring to the person getting them |
| 15:52.46 | z00dax | only if you are going for the soho setup |
| 15:52.59 | z00dax | sme and larger, will have a job role for comms' |
| 15:53.14 | z00dax | if someone's own job is boring, he can leave :) |
| 15:53.19 | SlayerXP | then ABMX might not be for you. |
| 15:53.41 | SlayerXP | tthe appliances do that, but thehosted service can't right now. |
| 15:53.41 | z00dax | but anyway, this is just my thoughts. i am sure you've done more groundwork in there |
| 15:54.18 | SlayerXP | i've had that conversation about 40 times over the past 3 years :) |
| 15:55.02 | SlayerXP | it's very simple: mail that gets rejected gets returned to the sender. |
| 15:55.11 | SlayerXP | if the sender is real, it's their problem anyway |
| 15:55.25 | SlayerXP | if the sender isn't real, why do you care anyway? |
| 15:57.04 | SlayerXP | afk |
| 16:06.57 | morsing | Mmm... Play |
| 16:19.10 | morsing | Ha ha |
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| 16:22.05 | morsing | eye69! |
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| 16:39.35 | morsing | arika-chan! |
| 16:39.42 | arika-chan | morsing! |
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| 16:42.07 | cbz | yuh. |
| 16:42.07 | morsing | cbz! |
| 16:42.10 | morsing | ldnblk! |
| 16:42.12 | cbz | morsing! |
| 16:42.28 | ldnblk | hi morsing how ya doing ? |
| 16:42.49 | morsing | Fine thank-you |
| 16:42.52 | morsing | You? |
| 16:43.03 | ldnblk | hi there mozrat how was the big apple ?? |
| 16:43.30 | ldnblk | morsing: things are ok |
| 16:44.53 | z00dax | morsing, arika-chan, cbz, ldnblk |
| 16:45.32 | arika-chan | hi z00dax \o/ |
| 16:46.21 | z00dax | arika-chan, ! |
| 16:47.06 | ldnblk | hi there z00dax waashup |
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| 16:52.07 | Leeds | Marios_! |
| 16:53.00 | cbz | zz00daz! |
| 16:55.47 | Marios_ | Hello |
| 16:55.48 | morsing | cbz: Why? |
| 16:55.59 | Marios_ | how is it going Leeds? |
| 16:56.05 | morsing | mozrat: Did you get a handbag? |
| 16:56.18 | morsing | Marios_! |
| 16:56.37 | Leeds | going well... going to bed :-) |
| 16:56.41 | Leeds | 'night all... |
| 16:56.44 | Marios_ | hehehe |
| 17:09.17 | cbz | why what? |
| 17:13.47 | stephanb2 | gotto go |
| 17:13.49 | stephanb2 | cu all l8r |
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| 17:34.46 | cup | sweet |
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| 18:24.02 | morsing | Anyone still here? |
| 18:24.02 | morsing | http://www.mx5club.org.nz/events/300599_photo_rally/kiwiana_on_mx5.jpg |
| 18:24.33 | SlayerXP | sort of |
| 18:25.07 | morsing | Everyone left so I thought I'd follow |
| 18:35.52 | SlayerXP | ! |
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| 21:10.52 | formi | hi everybody |
| 21:46.19 | wethrin | hi |
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| 21:59.03 | morsing | formi! |
| 21:59.05 | morsing | zx80user! |
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