| 00:05.52 | pawel | other question, what do you guys think of jfs? |
| 00:15.30 | George | it's jfslike |
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| 01:05.00 | George | Leeds: hey |
| 01:05.07 | George | Leeds: that ADSL modem you gave me... does it work with linux? |
| 01:14.50 | pawel | no, only windows. :/ |
| 01:15.20 | pawel | pitty. |
| 01:26.37 | George | er. |
| 01:26.38 | George | pawel |
| 01:39.27 | Leeds | George: do you honestly think I would have had a device which didn't work with Linux? |
| 01:41.12 | George | Leeds: nope |
| 01:41.31 | George | Leeds: I'll rephrase, does it work with kernel 2.6, preferably x86_64 |
| 01:41.53 | George | it's the PCI BeWAN card |
| 01:45.29 | George | ah well, it's amoot point anyway as I'm now installing SuSE 10.0 x86 |
| 01:49.08 | Leeds | ah, AMD64 could be slightly harder |
| 02:03.04 | George | Leeds: what are you up to today then? |
| 02:03.45 | George | z00dax: go to bed |
| 02:03.53 | z00dax | George, not yet. not yet. |
| 02:04.01 | z00dax | George, a happy birthday, belatedly |
| 02:04.09 | George | :) |
| 02:04.12 | z00dax | cake ? |
| 02:04.33 | George | ooh, GB isn't in GMT anymore |
| 02:04.48 | z00dax | no... the clocks went forward on us |
| 02:05.56 | pawel | :-S |
| 02:06.07 | pawel | George: yes my son. |
| 02:06.09 | pawel | ;> |
| 02:06.54 | George | moo |
| 02:08.28 | pawel | my stomach hurts. |
| 02:08.30 | pawel | ;/ |
| 02:08.39 | pawel | too much red bulls and peanuts. |
| 02:10.52 | George | fatty |
| 02:12.06 | pawel | oh, and snickers. |
| 02:12.10 | pawel | and tuna... |
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| 03:49.39 | Leeds | so the UK is in GMT+1? |
| 03:50.56 | Leeds | George: in a couple of minutes, I'm going to get dressed, go to Tsim Sha Tsui, buy a shaver charging cable, take my knife in for servicing, then head to Causeway Bay to meet the Sri Lankans in Times Square for dim sum, followed by tech shopping... |
| 03:51.57 | Leeds | George: you? |
| 04:05.46 | Leeds | please yourself - /me gone |
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| 07:45.22 | George | Leeds: hey |
| 08:52.28 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 08:53.05 | morsing | ibot! |
| 09:06.47 | morsing | Check it! |
| 09:12.39 | morsing | Leeds? |
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| 11:38.51 | Blapto | morsing, are you OK? |
| 11:42.51 | Leeds | evening all |
| 11:49.30 | *** join/#gllug wethrin (n=dankolb@ipv6.eco.li) |
| 11:50.49 | Leeds | so I bought a little speaker set - a small subwoofer/amp and a couple of little regular speakers - to put by my bed for night-time listening... didn't realise that all three boxes had a blue LED on the bottom |
| 11:51.05 | wethrin | Ahh. Modern chic |
| 11:53.46 | Leeds | indeed... but, I say again... for night-time listening... as in, when I want the room to be dark, not have even more LEDs lighting it up |
| 11:56.16 | Leeds | decent-sounding speakers though |
| 12:20.34 | z00dax | Leeds, a hammer, at the right angle with the right amount of force - should fix the led problem |
| 12:20.48 | wethrin | z00dax: Duct tape would be easier |
| 12:22.57 | z00dax | but, smashing things is fun! |
| 12:23.05 | wethrin | well, yes |
| 12:23.16 | z00dax | wethrin, how are you doing ? |
| 12:23.31 | wethrin | I just had breakfast |
| 12:23.38 | z00dax | i just had lunch |
| 12:23.43 | wethrin | It involved venison sausages |
| 12:29.17 | Leeds | I already have some bits of paper taped over some LEDs around the room... |
| 12:35.29 | Leeds | and now, dinner |
| 12:47.44 | Blapto | Any sharepoint geeks here? |
| 12:48.06 | Blapto | Or even IIS? |
| 12:48.37 | wethrin | hahahhahahahaha :) |
| 12:48.49 | z00dax | sharepoint and geeks ? didnt quite sound right |
| 12:49.56 | Blapto | Bloody thing. |
| 12:49.57 | Blapto | Installed it |
| 12:50.02 | Blapto | On a brand new fresh Server 2003 |
| 12:50.14 | Blapto | And I get a 404 when trying to browse the admin interface. |
| 12:50.20 | Blapto | IIS says that the files are there. |
| 12:50.33 | Blapto | The Virtual Server bit is set up properly. |
| 12:50.35 | Blapto | Arrgghh. |
| 12:53.37 | wethrin | Is it me, or do open-sores projects get worse as they continue to be developed? |
| 12:54.00 | wethrin | VLC 0.8.4 is being horribly unstable. 0.8.1 worked fine |
| 13:08.02 | George | Leeds: care to help me with this adsl modem? |
| 13:08.25 | George | "start_device: Failed to initialize PCI memory,status=-16" |
| 13:08.51 | George | "PCI: Unable to reserve mem region #1:10000@ea000000 for device 0000:00:0b.0" |
| 13:21.11 | Leeds | if you will use binary drivers... |
| 13:22.24 | George | I compiled them myself |
| 13:22.27 | Leeds | mmm... curry |
| 13:24.19 | Kitty | curry? |
| 13:24.20 | Kitty | where? |
| 13:24.21 | Kitty | when? |
| 13:24.23 | Kitty | mmmmm |
| 13:24.35 | Leeds | here'n'now |
| 13:24.42 | Kitty | bah |
| 13:25.28 | George | Leeds: any suggestions? :( |
| 13:26.16 | Leeds | this is the unicorn driver, right? |
| 13:26.50 | George | yes |
| 13:27.11 | George | this happens when I try to modprobe unicorn_pci_atm |
| 13:27.43 | Leeds | do you have io_apic support in your kernel? |
| 13:27.57 | George | no idea |
| 13:28.29 | George | hang on |
| 13:28.30 | Leeds | checj |
| 13:28.42 | George | ok |
| 13:28.51 | George | this is a stock opensuse 10.0 install |
| 13:29.47 | George | Leeds: local apic support is compiled in |
| 13:29.57 | George | but it's disabled by default |
| 13:30.03 | George | io-apic is also enabled |
| 13:30.08 | George | but disabled by default |
| 13:30.33 | Leeds | you may need to compile one or both out, IIRC |
| 13:30.57 | Leeds | may be nothing to do with your problem, of course |
| 13:31.09 | George | ok |
| 13:31.43 | George | CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y |
| 13:31.43 | George | CONFIG_X86_APIC_OFF=y |
| 13:31.43 | George | CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y |
| 13:31.44 | George | CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y |
| 13:31.44 | George | CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y |
| 13:31.52 | George | that's what it's at the moment |
| 13:32.07 | George | (zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i apic) |
| 13:34.55 | George | Leeds: shall I just all to N |
| 13:35.07 | z00dax | Leeds, hummm... sammies... |
| 13:38.23 | Leeds | z00dax: ? |
| 13:39.05 | z00dax | Leeds, sammies == samosas |
| 13:39.23 | Leeds | ah! I thought you were referring to my regular takeaway joint in Hendon :-) |
| 13:39.57 | George | lol |
| 13:39.59 | z00dax | :) |
| 13:40.10 | George | Hendon++ |
| 13:40.48 | George | Leeds: are you staying in HK permanently then? |
| 13:43.32 | Leeds | indefinitely |
| 13:44.24 | George | ok |
| 13:44.27 | George | kernel still compiling... |
| 13:44.44 | murb | George: you need a faster computer. |
| 13:45.04 | George | murb: I've got several, they're all in London though |
| 13:45.35 | George | except the thinkpad |
| 13:45.38 | George | which I'm typing on |
| 13:45.48 | George | this is a cheap sempron64 machine I picked up yesterday |
| 13:45.51 | z00dax | so today will be the day, i find out how to move / re-provision a running machine -> VM |
| 13:47.12 | Leeds | saag aloo paneer |
| 13:47.12 | George | wow |
| 13:47.17 | George | ebuyer are selling linux laptops these days |
| 13:48.12 | George | comes with ubuntu 5.10 |
| 13:48.53 | murb | z00dax: should be pretty trivial. |
| 13:49.23 | z00dax | murb, should be yes. thinking about whats the best way to do this |
| 13:49.31 | z00dax | vmplayer is the only vm host i have |
| 13:49.34 | z00dax | cant use Xen |
| 13:49.48 | murb | get both instaunces up, halt all services, rsync data, start services on new machine, nat forward from old machine until dns settles down. |
| 13:50.15 | z00dax | err.. no |
| 13:50.23 | z00dax | this is going to be a live move, with zero downtime |
| 13:50.49 | Leeds | z00dax: moving from a machine to a virtual machine? |
| 13:50.49 | murb | not seconds of downtime? |
| 13:51.28 | George | still. fucking. compiling. |
| 13:51.30 | murb | i think i managed my migration from old server to new server with 5 minutes and 25 minutes downtime. |
| 13:51.41 | z00dax | the plan is to have zero downtime |
| 13:51.43 | z00dax | Leeds, right |
| 13:51.45 | murb | (5 minutes whilst doing final rsync, enabled services.) |
| 13:51.56 | murb | then had to move replace the original server and bring up the new one. |
| 13:52.11 | z00dax | murb, this isnt that critical - this is just 2 old freaking laptops that run 24/7 here at my place, moving into vm's on my home server. |
| 13:52.14 | murb | z00dax: well if you don't care about logs and you are not doing email etc. |
| 13:52.56 | wethrin | a few minutes downtime on email shouldn't really cause a problem |
| 13:53.54 | z00dax | one is going to be easy, is already running a drbd instance, so the other vm needs to come up, sync under that and then maybe rsync /etc bits over, should work. |
| 13:54.12 | z00dax | does vmplayer let you spoof MAC add's ? |
| 13:54.35 | murb | wethrin: well once you've done the copy from old machine to new machine you need all smtp/pop3/imap etc to go to new machine otherwise things get strange. |
| 13:55.04 | wethrin | True |
| 13:55.05 | murb | z00dax: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 hw ether my:ne:ma:ad:re:ss |
| 13:55.16 | murb | i got this to work with some evil nat rules. |
| 13:56.04 | z00dax | thats what i am thinking, sync up both machines, then let the new vm pretend its the old machine and everything carries on.... |
| 13:56.23 | z00dax | however, first things first, this is not going to happen with 256megs of ram on the home server. |
| 14:03.01 | George | still compiling. Woohoo. |
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| 14:24.02 | George | Leeds: ok, new kernel installed and booted |
| 14:24.30 | George | still says initialisation failed |
| 14:24.54 | George | and all APIC stuff is disabled |
| 14:39.52 | Leeds | dunno, really |
| 14:56.30 | wethrin | ha |
| 14:57.03 | wethrin | oof |
| 14:57.21 | George | :) |
| 15:05.13 | wethrin | go away |
| 15:05.46 | George | :) |
| 15:07.17 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 15:08.03 | wethrin | morsing: It's okay. Pooh's solved my problem |
| 15:08.47 | morsing | Yeah - just saw |
| 15:11.27 | wethrin | :) |
| 15:31.36 | Leeds | anyone, off the top of their head, got any idea on a find command-line to find files about the same age as another file? |
| 15:55.55 | Leeds | bedtime |
| 16:02.32 | George | night |
| 17:12.52 | morsing | George: Where's your parents? |
| 17:13.54 | George | next door |
| 17:14.09 | morsing | Do they know what you're doing? |
| 17:14.26 | George | ? |
| 17:15.13 | morsing | Are they happy with that? |
| 17:15.32 | George | what? |
| 17:15.39 | George | they know I'm fighting with the adsl |
| 17:15.50 | morsing | Ok |
| 17:16.03 | morsing | What have you spend the day doing with them? |
| 17:16.09 | morsing | s/spend/spent/ |
| 17:17.11 | George | nothing |
| 17:18.01 | morsing | George: And how do you feel about that? |
| 17:18.10 | George | fine |
| 17:18.13 | George | I'm jetlagged |
| 17:18.53 | morsing | Jetlagged? |
| 17:19.51 | George | yes |
| 17:20.22 | morsing | What is the time where you are? |
| 17:21.48 | George | 1:21am |
| 17:22.10 | morsing | Have you got any plans for the day? |
| 17:22.53 | George | no |
| 17:23.01 | morsing | Do your parents? |
| 17:23.35 | George | probably |
| 17:24.44 | morsing | Probably? |
| 17:26.25 | George | yeah |
| 17:27.15 | morsing | George: Why are you upset? |
| 17:29.50 | morsing | George: Do you have any brothers or sisters? |
| 17:32.20 | George | yes |
| 17:32.21 | George | one brother |
| 17:32.44 | morsing | How old is he? |
| 17:33.52 | George | 27 |
| 17:34.20 | morsing | Do you get along? |
| 17:34.52 | George | yes |
| 18:12.45 | morsing | What's the key for moving between tabs in Firefox? |
| 18:13.11 | z00dax | ctrl+pgUp and Ctrl+PgDown |
| 18:13.42 | morsing | Thanks |
| 19:33.43 | morsing | George? |
| 19:36.38 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 19:36.49 | wethrin | hm? |
| 19:38.12 | morsing | wethrin: What? |
| 19:38.20 | wethrin | You called? |
| 19:38.38 | morsing | Tomorrow is my first day at work... |
| 19:39.06 | wethrin | ooh |
| 19:39.10 | wethrin | Looking forward to it? |
| 19:39.18 | morsing | Yes :) |
| 19:39.25 | wethrin | yay! |
| 19:39.26 | morsing | Mmm... work |
| 19:39.33 | wethrin | Can you remove my credit card balance? |
| 19:39.48 | morsing | Yes |
| 19:39.54 | wethrin | yay! |
| 20:07.17 | morsing | Mmm... meat |
| 20:13.27 | wethrin | Meat++ |
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| 22:15.37 | Erwin | Hello from SFO |
| 22:17.26 | z00dax | Erwin, ! |
| 22:18.52 | Erwin | I was on luxurious Premium Economy on my way over with United, I could stretch my legs all the way out! |
| 22:20.20 | wethrin | How did you get that? Just ask nicely? :) |
| 22:23.47 | Erwin | Nah, I think they upgraded a lot of people, I could see some people in Business and they did not look like the people that usually travel business |
| 22:24.05 | wethrin | all good fun |
| 22:24.22 | Erwin | But I'm actually fresh after 10.5 hours -- I think the engine noise so far ahead is much less than way in the back |
| 22:24.23 | wethrin | incidentally, where's SFO? I take it you're not appearing from the Serious Fraud Office? |
| 22:24.36 | Erwin | The San Francisco airport |
| 22:24.39 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 22:24.40 | wethrin | Right |
| 22:25.25 | Erwin | Apparently every Japenese grows up reading HC Andersen stories, I've just been told by the Japanese lady working for T-mobile whose hotspot I'm using. Odd. |