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07:45.13mozratMorning
08:25.26LeedsHKibot hello
08:25.27ibotHowdy Bub
08:25.46LeedsHKibot why are you ignoring my private messages?
08:25.48ibotLeedsHK: what are you talking about?
08:26.00LeedsHKibot why is a jamjar?
08:26.03ibotI think you lost me on that one, LeedsHK
08:26.48mozratibot die
08:26.50ibotACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
08:27.10murbi find /ignore ibot to be rather effective.
08:27.31mozratNah, I find her charming
08:28.03LeedsHKmozrat: you think it's a her?
08:29.01mozratLeedsHK: I thought we discussed this a while ago
08:29.05mozratibot is a female, yah
08:29.09mozratand a hot one at that
08:29.45LeedsHKI get a strong male dog vibe from it
08:29.55mozratibot sex
08:29.56ibotupdatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/
08:30.16LeedsHKin the meantime I've just had to convert something from ounces/square yard... bloody Yanks
08:30.34murbunits!
08:31.10LeedsHKprecisely
08:31.29LeedsHKI was using ibot's units-like support, but since he's ignoring me
08:32.14LeedsHKI still find it amazing that someone is using units like ounces per square yard in 2006 for business purposes
08:34.05murbLeedsHK: i thought the point of that was to protect the domestic us market?
08:35.23LeedsHKthey are dealing with a supplier in Hong Kong - i.e. the modern world
08:37.46murbare they using imperial yards or USian yards/ounces?
08:38.15LeedsHKUSian... are there different yards?
08:38.40murbaccording to units yes
08:39.26murbunits UKyard USyard
08:39.32murb* 0.99999644
08:39.32murb/ 1.0000036
08:58.05LeedsHKso it turns out you can't easily convert a value in pounds (lb) to a value in cm
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09:14.01mozrathey skugg
09:25.21wethrinmorning
09:25.31mozratHi @wethrun
09:25.43wethrin:)
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10:06.39LeedsHKbusy here today...
10:17.40wethrinIt is
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12:37.46JAVhello
12:39.27skuggcan somebody make ChanServ stop the onjoin messages please?
12:39.31skugg*please*?
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12:42.49stephanb2hello everybody
12:50.45z00daxstephanb2, hi
12:50.53stephanb2z00dax: yo
12:51.41stephanb2i will have to write a webpage on fedora on x86_64 and nForce4 + 6150
12:52.03z00daxare you using the s/w raid as well ?
12:52.17stephanb2i thought that once the hardware modules would b sorted, everythin else would be as for i386. it is *not*
12:52.29stephanb2z00dax: no, nothing fancy, no raid, no sata
12:53.09stephanb2z00dax: but im discovering how this and that doesn't work with the x86_64 packages, eg. flash && java in firefox
12:53.54z00daxthere is no x86_64 flash, if you want to use it - install the firefox.i386 and use plugins that way
12:54.00stephanb2and i have to learn to tell make or ld to load i386 libraries rather than x86_64 to compile some stuff
12:54.22z00daxhumm.... usually, the best way to do that is to use a chroot - and/or mock with setarch
12:54.27stephanb2z00dax: oh yeah i found about that, but most of the stuff i found on the web is *incomplete*
12:54.49z00daxstephanb2, add this info you come across into the fedoraproject wiki pages
12:55.35stephanb2z00dax: well the setarch thing is probably very useful
12:56.07z00daxalso, you need to play with /etc/rpm/platform - sometimes
12:56.16z00daxbe careful with that thougg
12:56.43z00daxI just use chroots to build stuff - that way i can gurantee the linkage and version's of everything
12:57.27stephanb2z00dax: im trying to find my way through the fedoraproject website and im a bit lost
12:57.48z00daxstephanb2, #fedora-docs might help ?
12:58.07stephanb2i thought i could pass a command line argument to "make" to tell it to use i386 libs
12:58.13z00daxerrr
12:58.21z00daxthe usual idea is to build rpms
12:58.36z00daxand rpm will handle such issues in a sane manner.
12:59.19stephanb2z00dax: yeah that's exactly wot baffled me, install from a fc2 i386 rpm on f4 x86_64 works, compile doesnt :-o
13:02.26z00daxhummm Grand National just around the bend
13:02.36z00daxshould we do a Glugg'ers sweepstakes ?
13:18.15stephanb2betting is not for me
13:18.35z00daxstephanb2, ah thats easy then - quick give me all your money
13:19.20stephanb2that's different that's extortion
13:20.11z00dax:(
13:22.55stephanb2z00dax: don't be sad. u just have to improve your skills in crime. maybe get a BTEC  in small financail crime ?
13:24.21z00daxi always wanted to goto college... now i have a reason!
13:24.31murbz00dax: don't be silly BTECs where a technical whastis he'll want an NVQ for that.
13:24.47murbs/z00dax/stephanb2/
13:25.39stephanb2well NVQs are for burglary, petty crime, robberies.
13:26.43z00daxi wan bigtime!
13:26.50z00daxs/wan/want/
13:26.58z00daxis speeling essential in crime ?
13:27.10z00daxsppeling
13:27.12z00daxspelling
13:27.14z00dax!
13:27.28stephanb2z00dax: in financial crime it can be, especially in identity crime.
13:27.29boudiccasno, just not owning a dyslexic keyboard
13:28.05z00daxyeah i need one of those, first thing to get post-first-heist
13:28.46stephanb2z00dax: if your literacy and numeracy r not up for it, u better do a diploma in drugs dealership
13:29.33stephanb2but there is a fair amount of physiology and pharmacology on this one
13:29.50z00daxthink I look ugly enough to pull off G4nGst4
13:29.51murbstephanb2: can you use previous convictions in leu of course work?
13:30.20boudiccasooh! pharmacology! my favourite subject :)
13:30.50stephanb2murb: nope. basically the career is 1. get a diploma, NVQ, BTEC. 2.practice as a criminal for a few years 3.get caught
13:31.01stephanb2onec ure in jail is the time for you to do more training
13:31.29stephanb2then you either go back to crime and get caught again, as many times as you want
13:31.39z00daxdid you know that JailTime is actually counted in your residency years in the UK ?
13:32.11murbz00dax: so you can get deported half way through your sentence?
13:32.12stephanb2or you branch in training to become a counsellor and work in drugs-rehab, prison service, etc.
13:33.55z00daxmurb, i would think so ...
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13:37.56cbzaftermorgen
13:38.09z00daxcbz,
13:40.30cbzz00dax.
13:59.20stephanb2cbz: nachmittag
14:00.38murbmittagessen what a good idea.
14:05.14cbzyuh
14:48.40murbhave tea instead.
14:49.36wethrinThat still requires the trolley
14:52.06murbno it just requires some water and tea leaves.
15:01.08wethrinI have no tea leaves to hand. Nor water.
15:01.18wethrinSo that's twice as bad as not having the serving trolley around
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15:12.49*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG - http://www.gllug.org.uk and http://planet.gllug.org.uk | Next Event: 18th April - Jono Bacon (OpenAdvantage) and Ted Haeger (Novell) speaking
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16:19.17gregjhttp://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39044164,39348879,00.htm
16:19.35gregjyeah, they are making sure windows works better with open source software - my arse
16:34.10stephanb2ok guys, time to go home. cu l8r.
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19:13.41Georgehi
19:14.25Jorenhi
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19:58.10z00daxGeorge, !
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22:57.19Leedsmy body clock appears to have switched to summer time... which is a little inconvenient, because the rest of Hong Kong hasn't followed suite
22:59.51ErwinI spent the last week in CA, was doing fine, this week I've been deadly tired. Probably because I didn't sleep full 16 hours after spending 2 days awake flying home
23:00.46Leedsyeah, that's liable to mess things up
23:01.15LeedsI'm not so horribly tired - just waking up an hour early every day... I suppose I should stick with it and become an earlier riser :-)

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