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00:40.54*** join/#gllug Brown0101 (n=celso@cpc1-seve3-4-0-cust35.popl.cable.ntl.com)
00:41.26Brown0101sup ppl
01:01.17rhowenot a great deal
03:57.52morsing'morning all
03:58.02morsingWhere did Leeds go?
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07:35.03mozratmorning all
07:37.49mozratLet the UK bank holiday season begin
07:37.53mozrat:)
07:38.35mozratheres to random days off with variable weather
07:48.36AndrewBlackgrrr - I have some systems work to do over the BH weekend. Seemed like a good idea when I volunteered to do it
08:07.33LeedsAndrewBlack: doubletime?
08:27.26*** join/#gllug mikejw (n=mikejw@81-179-73-217.dsl.pipex.com)
08:44.22Leedsafternoon mikejw
08:45.16mozrathey guys
08:46.45Leedsit's almost an imap client!
08:46.58Leedswebmail, etc. - in 100 lines of python
08:53.13mikejwhey guys
09:26.56*** join/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk)
09:27.01cbzhello
09:28.50mozrathi
09:28.58cbzhi mozrat
09:51.51mozratcan someone do me a favour (I am IRCing from my phone )..... what line is Finsbury Park station on?
09:55.30mikejwmozrat: picadilly/victoria
09:56.45mozratthanks mikejw
09:57.45mikejw:)
09:57.58mikejwwelcome
10:00.15mozrati have to get a train from there on Monday - going to be fun getting there with all of the closures
10:01.36mikejw:S
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10:47.42Georgemozrat: HI
10:48.03z00daxwelcome to the $WEEKEND
10:48.18Georgeyo z0000000000dax
10:48.49z00daxhey Georgeie
10:49.06George"Georgeie"?
10:49.26z00daxkinda hicup'ed there near the end ....
10:49.50Georgeheh
10:51.15Georgeit's far too early.
10:55.53z00daxrhowe, is that legal ?
10:56.00z00daxbeing work productive on the BankHoliday ?
10:56.04rhowez00dax: heh
10:56.14rhowez00dax: Free home phone calls =)
10:57.14z00daxah well in that case...
11:05.07Georgeyay.
11:14.13*** join/#gllug z00dax (n=z00dax@kbsingh.plus.com)
11:35.24mozratjust torrential rain
11:35.32mozratso very very english
11:35.53mozratpeople queuing for hours in the rain to go on rides
11:37.14z00daxmozrat, sounds like a BankHoliday to remember
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11:40.09mozratz00dax, as always :-)
11:42.11arika-chanahoy
11:42.45mozrathey
11:42.58z00daxarika-chan, !
11:43.32Georgeragh, it's arika-chan
11:44.28arika-chanz00dax!
11:44.43Georgearika-chan!
11:44.49arika-chanGeorge!
11:45.11Georgeewwwwwwwwwwww
11:45.15Georgedead skin--
11:46.27z00daxyay!
11:46.30arika-chanyay!
11:46.41z00daxhumm... not to dead skin, but yay! to holiday in the sun
11:46.50arika-chant'was most relaxing
11:46.56arika-chanespecially since my parents paid :)
11:47.08Georgerich bastard.
11:47.20Georgeyes you are
11:47.22arika-chanmy parents are
11:47.38Georgerich.
11:50.37z00daxI have 5, hungover, people in my house.
11:50.44Georgewtf.
11:51.17z00daxfriends, came over yesterday evening - ended up drinking too much and decided to stay back
11:51.33GeorgeFRIENDS?
11:51.59arika-chanhehe
11:52.32Georgearika-chan: I was sociable on wednesday, that's enough for the whole year.
11:52.42Georgeif taking a laptop to a pub counts as sociable.
11:53.08arika-chanclose
11:53.15z00daxGeorge, yes I have friends. most of whom drink too much - which kinda makes up for the fact that i hardly drink at all.
11:53.19arika-chanso long as you weren't conversing with people in the same building over IRC
11:53.26Georgearika-chan: of course I was.
11:53.55z00daxarika-chan, same building ? there was irc chatter between people, over the table
11:54.13z00dax(arika-chan)++
11:54.27Georgez00dax: yup
11:54.27z00daxthese sort of things usually only happen accidentally
11:54.34Georgez00dax: me, mozrat, cpufreak and some randoms
11:54.45arika-chanoh well :)
11:54.48Georgez00dax: did you get the orange thing?
11:55.13z00daxGeorge, not yet, am thinking of getting a new upgrade on my vodafone mobile, and using the p900 for the orange pay-as-you-go
11:55.21Georgeis PIPEX good?
11:55.29z00daxi suppose all the shops will be closed on Monday ... or i could have done this then
11:55.31z00daxpipex sux
11:56.07Georgewhy
11:56.42z00daxthey were quite bad to start with - in terms of support and prduct capability, then they bought into nildram
11:57.16z00daxwhich in turn was a good isp, rather than nildram dubbing off on pipex, it went the other way, now avoid both
11:57.26Georgehrmm, ok...
11:57.32GeorgeI'm on Bulldog at the moment
11:58.10z00daxooohhhh
11:58.51z00daxis zen an option ? or plus.net ? ( problem with plus.net is that they can never make up their mind on how much to charge and what for )
12:00.14Georgeplus.net have bandwidth capping
12:00.35z00daxonly for some hours in the day
12:00.40Georgethat SUCKS
12:00.42z00daxI use way over that - never had a problem
12:00.53z00daxi average between 100 - 120gb/month
12:00.58GeorgeROFL
12:01.04Georgethey say 15GB a month
12:01.11z00daxno they dont..
12:01.15z00daxnot for the premier account
12:01.22z00daxor do they ?
12:01.40Georgeyes they do
12:02.23Georgethey all have fucking bandwidth capping
12:02.30Georgein taiwan we have 8Mbit internet... COMPLETELY UNLIMITED
12:02.33Georgefor 16 pounds a month
12:02.37George8192/640
12:02.54z00daxyea, but the commute to work in the city would sux
12:02.56Georgeeven came with a router w/4 port switch and 802.11b AP
12:03.09Georgez00dax: ?
12:03.28z00daxi work in the docklands, commute from .tw to docklands everyday might not be good for me
12:04.58z00daxhow about aaisp ?
12:05.20Georgez00dax: :P
12:05.39z00daxthey do ipv6 as well, and everyone i know seems to think much of them
12:06.03arika-chanwork from home
12:06.16Georgearika-chan: you suck
12:06.19z00daxarika-chan, find me such a job
12:06.36arika-chaneasy
12:06.47Georgez00dax: prostitution
12:06.52arika-chanso long as you don't specify a job you'd actually enjoy or have an interest in
12:07.17z00daxand aaisp does channel bonding as well :)
12:07.40z00daxGeorge can i pimp you ?
12:07.43Georgez00dax: no.
12:07.46Georgetry pimping arika-chan
12:08.05arika-changood luck
12:08.26z00daxGeorge, you'r the freak - we're likely to make much more off you
12:08.30z00daxmuch much more
12:08.48GeorgeI'm a freak?
12:09.05z00daxwe could find a bunch of rich 60' something's who like round, hairy, toyboy's
12:09.37z00daxin other news, i cant make any sense out of this page : http://aaisp.net.uk/adslother.html
12:10.04arika-chan# Think i'd better run, run, run, run, think I'll catch me falling, falling, falling, falling, falling, falling #
12:10.17GeorgeDIE
12:10.23arika-chankinky
12:10.33Georgeyou sick bastard.
12:10.36arika-chanalso
12:10.36z00daxSIGFOOD, fellow gllug'ers
12:10.42arika-chanwhat does <z00dax> (arika-chan)++ mean?
12:10.50Georgearika-chan: he fancies you.
12:10.53arika-chan(aside from the obvious increment)
12:10.57Georgewhereas I fancy my shiny new thinkpad
12:11.02arika-chan(incrementation of what)
12:11.04arika-chanto be fair
12:11.06z00daxjust bigg'in you up arika-chan
12:11.10Georgearika-chan: karma, fool!
12:11.19Georgeibot tell arika-chan about karma
12:11.39arika-chan[13:11] <ibot> george wants you to know: somebody said karma was $1 has power karma
12:11.44arika-chanthat's really uninformative :)
12:11.57Georgearika-chan: you suck then.
12:12.11Georgearika-chan: now fix my new thinkpad.
12:12.40Georgearika-chan: go into tech support then
12:12.45arika-chanhell no
12:12.59Georgebut you get to speak to people all day on the phone
12:13.01Georgetelemarketing too
12:13.38arika-chan"woo yay"
12:14.04Georgeno more troubles.
12:14.18Georgez00dax: did you get that torrent down in the end?
12:14.54z00daxGeorge, i've got the .torrent - but not started it up as yet, had to resync my repository up - 25 gigs or so, its going to take me a few days @ 22k/sec
12:15.02Georgeto be honest, ADSL is a moot point as I'll have 1000Mbit come October
12:15.03z00dax<-- b/w challenged
12:15.51Georgefor a whole three years
12:27.37GeorgeI.. am a fat bastard.
12:28.41Georgehooray for battenburgs
12:29.03arika-chanbattenburgs are indeed to be praised
12:33.25GeorgeDIE
12:33.26GeorgeDIE!!!
12:34.04arika-chanI have no intentions of dying yet :)
12:37.10Georgewhy the hell not?
12:37.33arika-chanwhy should I? :)
12:38.04Georgebecause I want you to!!!
12:38.31arika-chanlet's see... nah xD
12:38.41arika-chanI wish you'd live :)
12:39.19Georgewtf?
12:39.20Georgewhy?
12:39.21Georgeyou hate me
12:39.54arika-chanI don't hate you at all and you know it :P
12:40.29Georgeyou do hate me
12:40.31Georgelies.
12:41.31arika-chanstubborn brat :)
12:41.38Georgedie
12:41.52arika-chanooh, that's a new one
12:41.57arika-chanwonder how much I'll go for :)
12:42.00Georgedunno
12:42.05Georgenecrophiliacs aren't normally that rich
12:43.00arika-chanintriguing )
12:43.05Georgearika-chan: you suck
12:43.29arika-chanfor the right price :D
12:43.36Georgearika-chan: you suck
12:43.41arika-chanfor the right price :D
12:43.43Georgearika-chan: you suck
12:43.49arika-chan:)
12:43.55Georgearika-chan: you suck
12:58.39*** part/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk)
13:00.16boudiccas"The trouble with eating Italian food is that five or six days later, you're hungry again."  
13:01.04wethrin:-)
13:03.16Georgeargh it's wethface
13:04.00wethrin:)
13:09.12arika-chanhi wethrin :)
13:09.25wethrinHi AC!
13:09.32wethrin'ow's life?
13:09.57arika-chans'awesome, just got back from a 2 week holiday in the caribbean :)
13:10.01wethrinwoot!
13:10.05wethrinGood time had by all?
13:10.17Georgewhy would anyone want to go to the carribbean?
13:11.21wethrinTo get away from you
13:11.32Georgefool
13:11.38Georgethe carribbean is closer to taiwan than england is
13:13.34arika-chanwethrin: majorly relaxing time had by all :)
13:14.30wethrinHurrah!
13:14.40wethrinBah. propan-2-ol is better
13:15.19GeorgeI need a bigger battery for this X40
13:15.34George4.5 hours when doing solid compiling and with wireless on just isn't good enough
13:16.16wethrinDon't do compiling when on battery, then
13:16.34Georges/wethrin/robotnik/
13:16.49Georgeho ho ho
13:16.49wethrin:)
13:16.55Georgewethrin: are you in Durham?
13:17.26wethrinNo
13:17.30wethrinSigh. CUNTS on the phone
13:17.42George?
13:17.43wethrinPhone rings. I pick up. "Hi there, this is a recorded messa"*click*
13:17.55Georgewethrin: phone sex?
13:18.02rhowewethrin: 1471
13:18.15wethrinrhowe: Can't be arsed. Most likely will be withheld
13:18.20rhowewethrin: Does it say 'caller witheld their number' or 'number was unavailable?
13:18.31rhowewethrin: Are you registered on the TPS?
13:18.49GeorgeClainsynar: What if all numbers were multiples of pi and our integer system was wrong? TokMor: stop having such irrational thoughts
13:20.25wethrinrhowe: No, we're not
13:20.43George<Chcherrycola>I hid my weed in my PSP carrying case. So I get up to go get some and I can't find it anywhere, then I realise my little brother must have taken it with him on the plane to Florida with my family... O_O
13:21.12wethrinHeh
13:21.14rhowewethrin: You should be
13:21.32wethrinrhowe: Eh. It's normally @parents problem
13:22.10wethrinThey're just not in ATM, so I answered the phone
13:22.37rhowewethrin: Well, they should probably register
13:23.24wethrinProbably they should :)
13:24.40arika-chanto spite you :)
13:24.44Georgearika-chan: I HATE YOU
13:25.06arika-chanthat must be a great burden for you to bear :)
13:31.24boudiccas"What is the definition of good wine? It should start and end with a smile."  
13:33.39boudiccaswhat are you doing in Staplehurst! Looking for £20,000,000????
13:47.52z00daxboudiccas, sort of - someone told me there was a bunch of it burried under a tree :)
13:47.55z00daxwethrin, !
13:48.24boudiccaslots of trees, lots of digging then :)
13:48.49Leedsnow, that could be an interesting document - just got my 2005/2006 UK tax return through :-)
13:48.56Leedsoh, and evening all
13:49.32z00daxhey Leeds
13:49.57z00daxboudiccas, well - $Friend+wife came over last evening - had too much to drink, I had to drive them back here. now heading back home
13:50.31z00daxwife as in Friends wife, not my wife. dont have one of those myself
13:51.58LeedsI'm told - this evening - that I should go to Israel to find one
13:52.30z00daxoh ?
13:52.52Leedsassuming I want a nice Jewish one - which I do
13:53.10z00daxnot the nasty Jewish one then ?
13:53.33Leedsnasty Jewish one could be possible too :-)  there just aren't many single young Jews in Hong Kong
13:55.06Georgeibot 12036-11390
13:55.07ibot646
13:55.41boudiccasgeorge gets ibot to do his maths homework
13:56.59z00daxok, off home now - bbl
13:57.39Leedsbye
13:57.52Leedsboudiccas: that's because ibot can count...
13:58.48boudiccaslol
14:11.57Leedshmm... what day does Doctor Who start up again?  I know it's some time over this weekend
14:24.09Leedshttp://www.strategypage.com/gallery/articles/military_photos_20064611181.asp
16:06.46mozratafternoon guys
16:07.03wethrinLeeds: Dr Who starts on Saturday
16:07.04wethrinhi mozrat
16:07.47mozratthe torrential rain at chessington has gone - a bit of sun has come out
16:07.59wethrinIt's been sunny here for a few hours
16:10.04Leedswethrin: thanks
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16:37.14Georgehi mozrat
16:41.53Georgehrmm
17:22.49Georgehttp://www.carphonewarehouse.com/commerce/servlet/gben-pd-ProductDisplay?PN=CLEARANCE.2006.APRIL.TMOBILE.MOTL71199FXT&origin=SPECIALOFFER&tabname=
17:22.53Georgedoes that look like a good deal?
17:22.59Georgeit averages out at 14 GBP per month
17:39.30Georgez00dax: ping
18:35.51mozrathello
18:42.05GeorgeMOZRAT
18:42.08GeorgeI GOT SLEEP TO WORK ON M X40
18:42.13Georges/M/MY/
18:45.14z00daxGeorge, pong
18:46.18Georgez00dax: t-mobile do a unlimited gprs deal for 7.50 GBP per month
18:48.14Georgesubject to a "fair use" clause
18:48.32wethrinWhich is normally about 1GB/month
18:50.04wethrinI'm a GIGABYTE, ME!
18:50.31GeorgeFair use policy applies: Relax web 'n' walk and Flext web 'n' walk price plans provide unlimited internet surfing on mobile handsets in the UK. To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, they are not to be used for other activities such as (but not limited to): modem access for computers, internet based video/audio streaming services, peer to peer file sharing, internet based video download and internet based telephony.
18:50.38Georgeok, that sucks
18:51.49Georgegot to use the phone, no modem use
18:51.50Georgethat stinks
18:54.31z00daxtechnically, use as a modem - or use from a phone might be the same thing
18:54.41z00daxsince you can use ssh or irc clients from a mobile phone as well
18:54.47Georgehah
18:54.54z00daxor even a conventional'ish browser like opera
18:54.56Georgeindeed
18:55.20z00dax1 GB/month does not sound like a lot - but for irc + ssh only, its a crapload
18:56.20Georgeheh
18:57.47z00daxis that Byte or Bit ?
18:58.48z00daxcause at 40kbit/sec - you'd need to be online saturating the link for 18 days and 3 hrs to make 1 GBit of traffic
18:59.00z00daxhumm... or did i screw up the math somewhere
19:00.59z00daxyeah. badly - like missed a 60 in there :)
19:11.57George?
19:12.15GeorgeI have sleep working on my thinkpad
19:12.16Georgeyay
19:14.31Georgecan you get your network to unlock your contract phone after the contract expires?
19:18.16Georgehrmm
19:18.36Georgeat least I have sleep working on my X40
19:18.41Georgewhat more could anyone ask for
19:18.42Georgehah
19:18.49Georgegod damnit why am I talking to myself
19:18.52Georgey'all are boring
19:18.52George:(
19:34.11arika-chanI'd talk but you'd just kill me again :)
19:35.10GeorgeDIE
19:35.19arika-chansee? :D
19:36.08GeorgeDEATH!!!
19:36.40arika-chan"Save the whales campaign cancelled due to boat-ramming whale."
19:41.48Georgethis is a fantastic way of finishing an argument:
19:41.49George20:40:46 <Alex> i will end on this: Jesus Existed. Enjoy hell and enternal suffering. bye
20:10.36Georgemoo.
20:14.11AndrewBlackHi there.  I came across the statement in a comment "the following line should be commented in"
20:14.25mozratevening
20:19.46Georgemozrat!
20:20.43mozratGeorge?
20:20.58GeorgeMOZRAT
20:21.05mozratHave you been on IRC all day again?
20:26.37GeorgeYES
20:27.02mozratluser?
20:27.11Georgenot as much as you
20:27.14mozratreally?
20:27.37Georgeyes
20:27.38Georgeduh
20:27.41Georgemozrat sucks!
20:28.28mozrat"there you go"
20:29.01Georgeharhar!
20:29.12Georgemozrat: know much about mobiles?
20:29.18Georgemozrat: I want to try and unlock my 6630
20:29.29Georgemozrat: wondering if three will do it as my contract's over
20:29.58mozratI don't care
20:30.07George:(
20:30.28mozratSeriously
20:30.57Georgemeany
20:32.08Georgeibot 12090-11403
20:32.09ibot687
20:32.14Georgemozrat: harharhar
20:32.28mozratharhar-I can count-harhar?
20:32.34George?
20:32.44Georgemozrat: har har har har
20:33.27Georgeho ho ho
20:33.29Georgewhy?
20:33.31Georgewhere are you going?
20:33.58mozratMiddlesbrough
20:34.05Georgewhy?
20:34.21mozratTo watch West Ham vs Middlesbrough
20:34.29Georgehrmm
20:34.33Georgefootball?
20:34.41mozrat...
20:34.42mozratyes
20:34.50Georgewhy the ...?
20:34.52Georgeyou bastard.
20:35.01mozratwhat other possibilities were running through your mind before you asked "football"?
20:35.34Georgedunno
20:35.36Georgerugby?
20:35.45mozrat*boggle*
20:35.56mozratGod, you are posh
20:36.03George?
20:40.18GeorgeArcturus is the name of a commander in the Protoss campaign in Starcraft...
20:40.26GeorgeArcturus Mengsk
20:40.50mozratI don't hate you George
20:41.00Georgeohwait, he was Terran
20:41.02Georgeyay.
20:47.15Georgemozrat: still thinking of catching up with me?
20:48.53GeorgeSOC 2006 is on
20:49.19rhowemm, that's cold
20:50.13rhoweGeorge: Fancy a burger?
20:50.42Georgerhowe: YES
20:50.48mozratGeorge: how do you mean?
20:51.10Georgehrmmm
20:51.12Georgemozrat: ?
20:51.17Georgemozrat: Summer of Code..
20:51.34Georgehrmm, if I want to do SOC I can't do an internship at google
20:51.37Georgescrew that, I'll just do SOC
20:51.39Georgeit's easier
20:51.45mozrat21:47 < George> mozrat: still thinking of catching up with me?
20:51.51mozratWhat do you mean?
20:52.17Georgemozrat: irc logs
20:52.28mozratah right
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21:08.55rhoweGeorge: How old are you?
21:10.22Georgerhowe: 18
21:19.57Georgerhowe: why?
21:26.45rhoweGeorge: Can you prove it?
21:26.53Georgerhowe: I have a passport
21:27.03Georgerhowe: and I'm bigger than you.
21:27.25rhoweGeorge: Make sure you bring your passport next time we go for food
21:27.37Georgerhowe: no
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22:56.36Georgeldnblk!
22:57.39ldnblkhi there george, whats up
22:57.41ldnblklol
22:57.53ldnblkits not a bad film
22:58.08Georgeyeah
22:58.09Georgeback to school on tuesday
22:58.48ldnblku could always play the wag :-)
22:59.13Georgewag?
23:00.01ldnblkwhen u choose not to go in, but your parents think that u r at school :-)
23:01.07Georgeerm
23:01.09ldnblksuppose thats not such a good idea if u plan on getting your straight A's
23:01.11GeorgeI'm at boarding school
23:01.45ldnblkoh so u have to organise a colditz style breakout ?
23:01.56Georgehaha
23:04.02ldnblkr u going to be watching cool runings on dvd or tv ?
23:04.10ldnblkif tv what channel ?
23:04.47Georgenot tv
23:25.06z00daxGeorge, yes - the network provider are obliged under law to give you the unlocking code for your mobile phone
23:25.18z00daxonce you have done the minimum required time on contract with them
23:25.45z00dax( replying to your message from a few hours back since i wasent here then - and just got back into the house )
23:25.56Georgez00dax: are you sure about that?
23:26.02z00daxGeorge, yes
23:26.22Georgez00dax: ok
23:26.30Georgez00dax: do I just phone them up and ask for the unlock code?
23:26.33z00daxi have no idea on how this works with pay as you go, but thats how it works on contract monthly payments thing
23:26.43GeorgeI don't use PAYG
23:26.58z00daxyes, they usually either tell you there and then on the phone ( you need to give them your phone's IMEI number ) - or they mail a letter with the unlock code on it
23:27.19z00daxmake sure you get the details right, a wrong number - and you can zap the firmware on the phone
23:27.37Georgereally?
23:27.45Georgehow?
23:33.02Georgez00dax: can 3g phones use 2g simcards?
23:33.30z00daxdunno about 3g 2g simcards
23:33.53z00daxbut the unlock code is usually a SP-Lock function in the fireware that needs unlocked. and its a XOR in most cases.
23:34.00ldnblki would be supprised if that were possible george, it would be a bit like mixing apples and pears
23:34.23z00daxXOR the wrong code in..... and its the end of that phone
23:34.44Georgez00dax: hrmm, that's a bit crap
23:35.07z00daxjust get the details correctly, and you should be ok

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