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10:26.19 | JAV | morning |
10:28.22 | z00dax | JAV, |
11:12.22 | George | moo |
11:23.31 | George | wtf. |
11:23.45 | z00dax | so you can moo some more moo's |
11:24.01 | George | is the royal mail working today? |
11:24.06 | z00dax | nope |
11:24.14 | George | not for delivering, but are they picking up mail today? |
11:24.24 | z00dax | nope |
11:24.37 | George | flaming death. |
11:24.47 | z00dax | why's that ? |
11:25.00 | z00dax | bike it over :) |
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11:25.43 | z00dax | arika-chan, |
11:25.52 | arika-chan | z00dax |
11:25.53 | arika-chan | ! |
11:28.32 | George | what about city-link? |
11:29.11 | boudiccas | doubtful |
11:29.32 | z00dax | George, give them a call - not sure what their setup is like on a Bank holiday, there might be legal issues involved when a non-Govt company, and non essential services, decides to stay working - only some retail outlets are allowed i think |
11:29.37 | z00dax | i might be wrong |
11:29.42 | boudiccas | basically everything [except for the emergency services] has shut down for along weekend |
11:29.57 | boudiccas | *a long |
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11:54.48 | George | wethrin: you suck at English, fyi |
11:54.50 | George | hey Leeds |
11:55.16 | Leeds | hello |
12:06.18 | George | how effective is greylisting? |
12:07.21 | z00dax | George, it breaks SMTP |
12:08.27 | George | so? |
12:08.38 | z00dax | so i dont like it |
12:09.02 | George | I wonder if anyone's ever lost any legitimate email through greylisting |
12:10.17 | z00dax | I have, from brain dead Exchange servers. i think exchange 5.5 never did retry properly |
12:10.34 | George | hrmm |
12:10.39 | z00dax | also, since i prefer email to IM, its nice to get email when its sent over |
12:30.34 | z00dax | btw, what time ETA on Tuesday 18th ? |
12:33.52 | morsing | George! |
12:33.57 | morsing | z00dax! |
12:33.59 | morsing | Leeds! |
12:34.04 | morsing | I'm back :) |
12:34.25 | z00dax | welcome back morsing ! |
12:34.27 | Leeds | evening morsing |
12:42.16 | mozrat | Can someone with ops modify the topic and insert the word TOMORROW in the appropiate place please? |
12:52.56 | George | no |
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13:09.23 | Leeds | mozrat: you do it |
13:24.44 | Leeds | mozrat: hello! |
13:24.50 | George | how do I filter email into various email boxes when I'm using IMAP? |
13:24.54 | George | on postfix |
13:24.57 | George | ie - I want to filter different mailing lists into different folders |
13:25.21 | Leeds | I use procmail - I don't know if postfix has any native filtering... I know exim does |
13:25.28 | Leeds | and qmail has some |
13:25.59 | George | Leeds: ok |
13:30.51 | George | Leeds: procmail is really crap when it comes to logging |
13:31.06 | Leeds | not at all - it's very good |
13:31.10 | George | where? |
13:31.39 | Leeds | wherever you tell it to |
13:32.56 | Leeds | rtfm |
13:43.35 | George | ex-girlfriend@some_host.net 554 Get a life and move on. |
13:43.35 | George | lol |
13:49.15 | mozrat | sorry guys - was away finding stadium |
13:49.29 | mozrat | i cant really do it now as im on my blackberry |
13:54.19 | George | OP ME |
14:19.52 | morsing | mozrat: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! |
14:23.54 | rhowe | Anyone else feel a bump then? |
14:24.14 | rhowe | It just felt like there was a slight earth tremor |
14:28.43 | morsing | rhowe: In Aylesbury? |
14:33.44 | George | rhowe: that's god's way of saying "you fucked up george's burger" |
14:35.00 | wethrin | foo |
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14:35.28 | George | wethrin: op me op me op me |
14:35.31 | wethrin | No :-P |
14:35.40 | George | why not? |
14:36.19 | morsing | wethrin! |
14:36.31 | morsing | George: Because you suck! |
14:36.39 | *** topic/#gllug by wethrin -> Greater London LUG - Next event TOMORROW (Tuesday): Jono Bacon (OpenAdvantage) and Ted Haeger (Novell) speaking | There's a Saturday event too! | http://www.gllug.org.uk and http://planet.gllug.org.uk |
14:36.43 | wethrin | hi morsing |
14:36.44 | wethrin | How was Haye? |
14:36.53 | morsing | wethrin: Fun :-) |
14:37.01 | wethrin | Rar! |
14:37.07 | wethrin | Did you give EvilDave his bottle of whisky? |
14:37.19 | morsing | wethrin: I did indeed |
14:37.28 | wethrin | Was he pleased? |
14:37.33 | morsing | Very much so |
14:38.04 | wethrin | Hurrah! |
14:38.33 | morsing | Hay is actually in Wales |
14:39.30 | wethrin | Yes, it is |
14:39.31 | wethrin | Just about |
14:39.42 | George | I don't like you wethrin |
14:39.48 | George | you are a horrible, fat, bald, ugly bastard |
14:39.55 | wethrin | oh, shush |
14:40.01 | George | heh |
14:40.26 | morsing | George: I hate you! |
14:41.20 | morsing | wethrin: Are you going to the Gllug meeting |
14:41.46 | wethrin | morsing: I plan to be, yes |
14:41.50 | wethrin | Where is your new job? |
14:41.56 | wethrin | (location) |
14:46.42 | George | morsing: why? |
14:58.12 | morsing | wethrin: Staines |
14:58.18 | morsing | wethrin: How do I get there? |
14:58.25 | morsing | George: Because you suck! |
14:58.53 | wethrin | morsing: Drive |
14:59.13 | wethrin | If you try public transport, you have to go into and back out of London |
15:00.41 | George | morsing: I don't suck as much as wethrin does |
15:01.16 | morsing | wethrin: I'm NOT driving in London! |
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15:02.19 | stephanb2 | hello everybody |
15:02.19 | wethrin | morsing: It's not London. It's suburbs |
15:02.33 | wethrin | Near Heathrow |
15:02.38 | wethrin | hi stephanb2 |
15:02.53 | George | fatty |
15:03.32 | stephanb2 | yo wethrin |
15:04.09 | stephanb2 | i am wondering wether im not better off running 32bit fedora on an amd64 |
15:04.26 | morsing | wethrin: Is it?! |
15:04.30 | morsing | stephanb2! |
15:04.31 | stephanb2 | so many things are not running on 64bits for the desktop |
15:04.41 | morsing | wethrin: Huh!??! |
15:04.53 | stephanb2 | morsing: yes i know... i hear the sound of defeat in that |
15:06.20 | wethrin | morsing: Yeah |
15:06.24 | wethrin | Goooogle Maps! |
15:07.23 | stephanb2 | morsing: but if i read on every messageboard that x,y,z didnt manage to compile this on 64bits |
15:07.32 | stephanb2 | morsing: why do i stick to 64 bits |
15:07.55 | stephanb2 | if im not running a server, using 2GB of ram and stuff ? |
15:08.03 | George | ibot change 4500 USD to GBP |
15:08.42 | morsing | wethrin: Where is this Gllug meet then? |
15:09.00 | morsing | stephanb2: 64 bit sucks |
15:09.07 | George | morsing: WMIN |
15:09.19 | morsing | ibot WMIN |
15:09.49 | Leeds | running in 64 bit mode is - as I understand it - significantly faster, simply from the increase in registers if nothing else |
15:10.04 | Leeds | on the other hand, I have 3 Althon64 machines, all running slackware 32bit |
15:10.31 | stephanb2 | :-o |
15:11.05 | stephanb2 | Leeds: for the same reason as me, or because there is no slack x86_64 ? |
15:11.56 | Leeds | a combination... there is at least one slack64 port that I know of, but I don't want to take the risk of instability, cut myself off from 32bit-only stuff, etc. |
15:12.28 | Leeds | of those three machines, one is dead and offline in the UK, one is a desktop machine, and one is a new server - the server is the most likely to get 64 bit-ified in the forseeable future |
15:12.40 | George | morsing: westminster university cavendish campus |
15:12.47 | wethrin | morsing: Westminster Uni |
15:12.53 | wethrin | Same as most Gllug meets |
15:13.01 | George | morsing: http://gllug.ukfsn.org/index.php?/archives/11-GLLUG-Meeting-18th-April.html |
15:13.05 | George | morsing: READ THE FUCKING WEBSITE |
15:13.29 | Leeds | George: CALM THE FUCK DOWN |
15:13.46 | George | no |
15:13.51 | rhowe | http://www.nethash.org/ |
15:14.55 | Leeds | feb96f262883dfec48c8cfac11de9e17 (current as of 2006-04-17 08:14:43.325086) |
15:15.12 | rhowe | Have a look at the webpage source |
15:16.03 | Leeds | thanks |
15:16.23 | Leeds | I was about to go to bed - that was just what I needed. Really. |
15:16.47 | George | rhowe: yuck. |
15:17.04 | rhowe | heh |
15:17.10 | morsing | George, wethrin: So when did they move the building to Heathrow? |
15:17.42 | wethrin | What? |
15:17.47 | Leeds | what? |
15:17.52 | wethrin | WHAT? |
15:18.11 | George | WHAT |
15:18.17 | Leeds | figlet WHAT? |
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15:19.22 | Leeds | Erwin! |
15:19.23 | George | GO AWAY ERWIN |
15:19.24 | Leeds | g'night all |
15:19.28 | George | night |
15:19.31 | Leeds | George: don't do that |
15:19.32 | wethrin | nn Leeds |
15:19.50 | Erwin | Morning |
15:20.05 | Erwin | Anyone using Orange? Do they have an EDGE network and how do I enable it? :) |
15:20.13 | George | ibot 12434-11518 |
15:20.15 | ibot | 916 |
15:20.54 | z00dax | stephanb2, what are you trying to do w.r.t 32/64bit ( which is not really 64bit anyway ) |
15:22.37 | morsing | 16:01 < morsing> wethrin: I'm NOT driving in London! |
15:22.40 | morsing | 16:02 <@wethrin> morsing: It's not London. It's suburbs |
15:22.42 | morsing | 16:02 <@wethrin> Near Heathrow |
15:22.59 | wethrin | Heathrow is in a London suburb. Zone 6. |
15:23.14 | morsing | wethrin: Yes, so I repeat my question: |
15:23.23 | morsing | 16:17 < morsing> George, wethrin: So when did they move the building to |
15:23.23 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
15:23.41 | wethrin | I said it's *near*, not in :) |
15:24.11 | morsing | wethrin: It's IN LONDON. It's not even close to Heatrow and I'm NOT driving there |
15:24.12 | George | wethrin: you suck |
15:24.40 | wethrin | morsing: Then you can probably do it by about 4 train and bus changes :) |
15:24.40 | z00dax | morsing, where are you driving from ? |
15:24.56 | morsing | z00dax: Staines |
15:25.18 | z00dax | and where are you going to ? |
15:25.26 | morsing | z00dax: Westminster University |
15:25.48 | wethrin | Gah. You're confusing me! |
15:25.55 | wethrin | Take a train from Staines to Paddington |
15:26.10 | wethrin | Then Hammersmith & City or Circle Line to Gt. Portland St. |
15:26.23 | morsing | wethrin: Why? |
15:26.23 | George | wethrin sucks |
15:26.42 | morsing | wethrin: Ahh... See, that wasn't difficult :) |
15:26.47 | George | morsing: we all thought you were going TO staines |
15:27.22 | wethrin | Yeah |
15:27.36 | wethrin | That's what I thought |
15:27.36 | wethrin | From Aylesbury |
15:27.57 | z00dax | morsing, get to the closest Piccadilly line station, and stay on that to Russel Sq. then walk it |
15:27.59 | wethrin | morsing: Oh, I lie. Staines might require you to go to Waterloo |
15:28.10 | morsing | George: Well, that wasn't my fault! |
15:28.28 | morsing | wethrin: Thanks! |
15:28.30 | George | morsing: YES IT WAS! |
15:28.35 | morsing | George: How so? |
15:29.08 | wethrin | morsing: Yes. Staines goes to Waterloo |
15:29.09 | z00dax | morsing, you should be able to find parking in the Hatton Cross area... leave the car there, then Tube it |
15:29.24 | wethrin | So from Waterloo, take the Bakerloo line up to Regent's Park. Then walk it. |
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15:29.36 | wethrin | It's only about 3 minutes more compared to walking from Gt. Portland St. |
15:29.38 | wethrin | hi cbz |
15:29.41 | cbz | hi wethrin. |
15:29.52 | cbz | What's 3 minutes more? |
15:30.07 | wethrin | Walking from Regents Park station |
15:30.28 | cbz | And you get to see the bust of JFK with the little flamey thing |
15:30.44 | stephanb2 | so then i have another stupid question |
15:30.54 | wethrin | There are no stupid questions. Only George |
15:31.08 | z00dax | wethrin, is it > 10 min walk from Russel Sq ? |
15:31.14 | George | wethrin: you ... suck. |
15:31.20 | stephanb2 | i asked before how to build on x86_64 pretending im on i386 arch |
15:32.07 | wethrin | z00dax: Errr. Probably about 10 minutes. I have no idea where Russel Sq. tube station is above ground, though |
15:32.24 | stephanb2 | however that doesn't mean that an app built that way would run on x86_64 does it? |
15:32.29 | z00dax | wethrin, ah well - I'll let you know when i get there then :) |
15:32.39 | wethrin | Okay :) |
15:32.48 | z00dax | stephanb2, rephrase a bit - are you building a i386 target or a x86_64 target ? |
15:32.51 | Erwin | stephanb2: On my x86-64 system, I have a full set of both 32 and 64-bit libraries (in /lib64) |
15:33.32 | morsing | z00dax: Hatton cross by Heathrow? |
15:33.57 | stephanb2 | yes i formulated my question badly |
15:34.04 | wethrin | IIRC, there could well be trouble parking around Hatton Cross |
15:34.21 | wethrin | But that'll take you about an hour to get into Central London. The quick trains take 35 minutes |
15:34.31 | morsing | wethrin: murb was being really stupid in Hay. We have about 300 photos of it! |
15:34.36 | z00dax | morsing, its about 5 miles from stanes, or about 3 miles from heathrow. |
15:34.44 | cbz | You went to Hay on Wye, morsing? |
15:35.00 | z00dax | come to think of it - isnt that where the tube stops these days ? in which case you might find it fun locating parking |
15:35.08 | stephanb2 | i'll take an example. I'm trying to build zsnes for x86_64 |
15:35.11 | morsing | cbz: Yes |
15:35.26 | morsing | cbz: Why didn't you go? |
15:35.30 | stephanb2 | there is a documented problem with nasm not linking with x86_64 |
15:35.46 | cbz | Heh, i didn't realise that egllug people were off to the literary festival |
15:35.50 | stephanb2 | ./configure --target i386 doesn't work |
15:36.11 | z00dax | stephanb2, write a .spec file - let rpm handle this for you ? |
15:36.40 | stephanb2 | z00dax: and what rpm will run configure and make ??? |
15:36.54 | z00dax | stephanb2, err.. yes thats how it works. |
15:37.07 | stephanb2 | z00dax: i thought that to build an rpm, you had to compile first |
15:37.24 | z00dax | setarch i686; rpmbuild --target i386 <specfile> |
15:37.30 | stephanb2 | and then tell rpm where make install would have put the binaries, the man pages,etc |
15:37.37 | z00dax | stephanb2, humm... noooo! |
15:37.47 | z00dax | stephanb2, wait one, i have just the .pdf for you |
15:37.49 | morsing | Moo |
15:38.14 | z00dax | stephanb2, http://www.gurulabs.com/GURULABS-RPM-LAB/GURULABS-RPM-GUIDE-v1.0.PDF |
15:38.25 | stephanb2 | z00dax: ooooh aaaargh, so for all the years i have been on fedora (ie rpm based disrto), i have always built with configure make make install |
15:38.36 | stephanb2 | and I was WRONG :'-( |
15:40.18 | z00dax | stephanb2, you get the sources, put them in the right place, then you write a .spec file that tells rpmbuild what to do, then run rpmbuild on that spec file - it gives you a .src.rpm and a .<target arch>.rpm |
15:41.30 | z00dax | specially when you build stuff on multilib platforms like x86_64/i386 or ppc64/ppc or sparc64/sparc32 - rpm can handle a lot of the stuff for you |
15:42.39 | stephanb2 | z00dax: yeah beacause rpm obviously *knows* when there are 2 versions of the same library (i386 ans x86_64) |
15:42.53 | stephanb2 | z00dax: whereas "make" or "configure" doesnt |
15:44.51 | z00dax | stephanb2, the other way to do this ( and easier ) is to setup a i386 chroot and just build inside there |
15:45.09 | stephanb2 | z00dax: yah, thats wot i was tod before |
15:45.53 | stephanb2 | z00dax: what is gonna b harder with rpmbuild? creating the spec file? |
15:46.44 | z00dax | starting from very simple and straightforward ( eg. the time.spec ) it can get exceptionally complex ( eg. the Openoffice-org.spec ) |
15:47.27 | z00dax | you need to figure out Rocket Science, sacrifice a Martian Goat and remortage your house, in order to be eligible to understand the openoffice.org spec file |
15:48.29 | stephanb2 | z00dax: i can feel that zsnes might not be a good choice to learn how to do this |
15:48.57 | stephanb2 | z00dax: i imagine a command line utility like setpwc, that doesnt depend on many libraries will b easier |
15:49.07 | z00dax | stephanb2, try the time pkg |
15:49.29 | stephanb2 | z00dax: and reverse engineer wot they've done |
15:49.45 | stephanb2 | z00dax: other advantage, there is a src.rpm for it already ;-) |
15:49.52 | z00dax | btw, if you have about 400 - 600 megs of hdd space to spare, i would really recommend you do the chroot process... |
15:50.46 | z00dax | "yum --installroot" will let you build the chroot, and just bind mount /dev /proc and /sys under it |
15:50.59 | z00dax | you can then use this chroot to play with rpmbuilding as well |
15:51.13 | stephanb2 | z00dax: yeah im just reading about this for debian 64 |
15:51.56 | z00dax | err no |
15:52.02 | stephanb2 | z00dax: but is actually have another fedora box on i686, can i build on that and install the binaries on x86_64? |
15:52.08 | stephanb2 | s/is/if |
15:52.08 | z00dax | its very different and much easier on Fedora |
15:52.23 | stephanb2 | :-o ??? |
15:52.28 | z00dax | stephanb2, yeah that would work - build on 32bit clean and move to x86_64 to install |
15:52.35 | z00dax | stephanb2, the sort of thing thats again, much easier with rpm's |
15:52.45 | stephanb2 | since when is there a reason for using fedora rather than debian ? |
15:53.05 | z00dax | i thought you were already on fedora ? |
15:53.15 | stephanb2 | anyway you've opened my mind to alot of stuff |
15:53.24 | stephanb2 | without the use of psychoactive drugs |
15:53.24 | z00dax | there are lots of reasons to use Fedora, and rpm is one of those :) |
15:53.44 | rhowe | Don't let Martin Brooks hear you :) |
15:53.48 | stephanb2 | i am starting to gain some pride on using fedora |
15:55.18 | z00dax | stephanb2, also if you want spec's to look at - http://svn.rpmforge.net/svn/trunk/rpms/ and http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/lxr/extras/source/rpms/ |
15:55.37 | stephanb2 | z00dax: so, what i should do is a "minimal install" for the chroot + all the development stuff |
15:55.45 | z00dax | some of the rpmforge.net stuff might be a bit more complex since we use macro's to define whats going on - and what distro its building on |
15:56.57 | z00dax | stephanb2, yum groupinstall both the main groups 'core' and 'base' |
15:57.28 | z00dax | once you are in the chroot, you can just use yum to pull in more pkgs as you need ( just make sure that your yum config's point at i386 repo's and not x86_64 repos ) |
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16:00.54 | mikejw | hey guys |
16:01.05 | wethrin | 'ello |
16:01.28 | mikejw | does anyone know what time things are starting tomorrow night? |
16:01.44 | George | TIME! |
16:02.04 | mikejw | :S |
16:05.55 | wethrin | RTFML :) |
16:06.51 | morsing | mikejw! |
16:06.58 | mikejw | morsing: lo |
16:07.01 | wethrin | 1900, apparently |
16:07.11 | wethrin | Anyone want a quick pint beforehand? |
16:07.13 | mikejw | ah thank you muchly :) |
16:07.26 | morsing | wethrin: In Staines? |
16:07.54 | *** topic/#gllug by wethrin -> Greater London LUG - Next event TOMORROW (Tuesday), 1900, Westminster Uni: Jono Bacon (OpenAdvantage) and Ted Haeger (Novell) speaking | There's a Saturday event too! | http://www.gllug.org.uk and http://planet.gllug.org.uk |
16:07.59 | wethrin | morsing: No, in a real place |
16:08.21 | rhowe | Is tomorrow the advocacy one and Saturday the one with asterisk? |
16:08.31 | rhowe | TLTRTML |
16:11.37 | wethrin | yeah |
16:11.41 | wethrin | The RTFTopic |
16:18.22 | rhowe | hm, then I guess I'll make it to the Saturday one |
16:23.14 | mozrat | well - we (west ham) lost |
16:23.31 | mozrat | but we sang a lot louder than they did |
16:23.57 | George | HI MOZRAT |
16:24.00 | George | HOW ARE YOU MOZRAT? |
16:24.21 | mozrat | good thanks - had fun today |
16:24.31 | mozrat | now have the small matter of getting home |
16:26.22 | stephanb2 | cu guys l8r |
16:27.52 | George | mozrat: hahahaha |
16:27.55 | George | mozrat: stranded! |
16:28.53 | *** part/#gllug stephanb2 (n=stef@88-109-115-60.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
16:46.38 | mozrat | not quite stranded but the tickets i won are for the 2000 train from Boro and i dont fancy sitting around for another 2 hours |
16:46.50 | George | you won? |
16:48.02 | mozrat | no - we lost 2-0 |
16:48.10 | mozrat | oh, i won the tickets, yeah |
16:48.25 | mozrat | from the metro newspaper |
16:48.55 | mozrat | hey, somebody prepended an @ character in front of my name |
16:49.03 | mozrat | how kind! |
16:49.11 | *** mode/#gllug [-o mozrat] by mozrat |
16:49.20 | mozrat | better |
16:54.14 | George | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
16:54.15 | George | YOU BASTAR |
16:54.15 | George | D |
17:07.39 | mozrat | what? |
17:07.50 | George | :'( |
17:09.15 | George | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1941 |
17:14.39 | George | deviant |
17:17.08 | *** part/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk) |
17:18.38 | George | indeed |
17:18.41 | George | I'm VERY odd |
17:43.03 | mozrat | you really are |
17:43.06 | mozrat | odd odd odd. |
18:00.52 | *** join/#gllug eye69 (i=magnus@ipv6.upcore.net) |
18:03.08 | George | I'M ODD |
18:03.10 | George | ODD I SAY |
18:03.11 | George | ODDDDDDD |
18:03.13 | George | ODDDDDD |
18:03.32 | George | hi eye69 |
18:03.35 | George | eye69: I'm odd :D |
18:09.57 | eye69 | I knew that already. |
18:12.17 | George | Recent estimates say that around a third of all internet traffic is based around BitTorrent. |
18:18.25 | mozrat | Recent estimates say that around a half of all bollocks spoken in #gllug is based around George |
18:18.47 | George | you suck |
18:19.02 | George | :'( |
18:29.43 | mozrat | phone Childline then |
18:31.07 | George | "hello, yes, this nutter called Simon Morris is stalking me." |
18:31.14 | George | "yeah, he has a sniper rifle in his hand" |
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18:37.38 | mozrat | what-ho arika-chan |
18:41.09 | arika-chan | ahoy mozrat-io :) |
18:41.41 | George | arika-chan: MOZRAT'S STALKING ME |
18:41.50 | mozrat | at last.... someone sensible to converse with |
18:42.06 | arika-chan | don't tell me you've only had George for company? |
18:42.16 | arika-chan | poor mozrat :( |
18:44.50 | mozrat | i have. its been awful |
19:20.46 | z00dax | hello all ! |
19:23.40 | z00dax | George, ping ? |
20:28.17 | morsing | Yoiy |
20:28.30 | z00dax | morsing, |
20:30.27 | morsing | z00dax! |
20:31.16 | wethrin | Foo |
20:37.50 | *** join/#gllug rhowe (i=rhowe@87.127.14.179) |
20:47.46 | wethrin | mozrat: ping? |
21:22.25 | George | hiiiiiiii |
21:24.23 | z00dax | hello George |
21:38.04 | George | The server said: "[SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop." |
21:38.08 | George | fuck. |
21:40.41 | z00dax | George, the normal way of doing things is to test before you deploy in production |
21:40.54 | George | z00dax: it's been working for YEARS |
21:43.50 | George | FUCKFUCKFUCK |
21:46.39 | George | aha |
21:46.41 | George | fixed it |
21:46.45 | George | it was a newline at the beginning of the file |
21:46.48 | George | how odd |
21:46.58 | wethrin | Ahhh. Unix++ |
21:47.01 | wethrin | WELCOME TO THE FUTURE |
21:47.04 | wethrin | pah |
21:47.19 | George | wethrin: ? |
21:47.28 | George | WHY THE FUCK CAN'T THEY JUST SKIP THE FUCKING NEWLINE |
21:47.33 | George | I MEAN FOR FUCK'S SAKE |
21:47.42 | George | YOU BASTARD |
21:48.01 | wethrin | Because the authors are silly |
21:48.23 | George | and why the hell do they have to give stupid, annoying, meaningless, cryptic error messages? |
21:48.27 | George | piece. of. fucking. shit. |
21:52.18 | wethrin | Are you using Sendmail? |
21:52.32 | George | no |
21:52.34 | George | postfix/qpopper |
21:53.29 | wethrin | Ha |
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21:55.00 | George | arika-chan: why did you change your nick btw? |
21:55.02 | George | wethrin: ha? |
21:55.05 | wethrin | Ha |
21:55.09 | arika-chan | why not? |
21:55.24 | George | wethrin: bastard, now op me :D |
22:06.56 | George | wethrin: is it possible to do a masters in maths after doing a bachelors in compsci? |
22:15.26 | rhowe | George: If you can demonstrate a decent familiarity with maths, and if you took maths modules as part of the CS degree, I don't see why not. Depends on the prerequisites of individual institutions, I guess |
22:15.50 | George | I wonder if I'll be dead before I graduate :P |
22:16.18 | rhowe | George: If insults could kill, you'd be dead already :P |
22:16.31 | George | heh |
22:16.34 | George | where's my burger? |
22:16.43 | rhowe | I just had gammon |
22:16.44 | rhowe | mmm, gammon |
22:16.51 | George | bastard |
22:16.57 | George | that said, I had roast beef |
22:17.04 | rhowe | Admittedly, cooking it did take me offline |
22:17.08 | George | ? |
22:17.19 | George | tripped over a cat5 cable? |
22:17.31 | rhowe | There's something up with the hob - it trips the residual current circuit breaker |
22:17.39 | rhowe | which took down my gateway |
22:17.40 | George | hah |
22:17.57 | rhowe | And caused my main box to shut down, under UPS control (it has a full 2 minutes runtime) |
22:18.11 | George | rofl |
22:18.18 | George | why only 2 minutes? |
22:18.22 | rhowe | Hey, it was a 35 quid UPS |
22:18.32 | George | ok |
22:18.39 | George | mine gives about 25 minutes |
22:18.40 | rhowe | It has a dual celeron with about 3 drives and 10 fans, as well as an alpha with three drives plugged into it |
22:18.57 | rhowe | I don't know how much power they draw, but it's a fair bit |
22:19.05 | George | god damnit you weirdo |
22:19.24 | George | mine's just a single cpu athlonxp with two drives in a raid 1 and 1 fan |
22:19.36 | rhowe | UPS Load: 101.4 |
22:19.41 | rhowe | Yeah, it's a fair load |
22:19.44 | George | 101.4 what? |
22:19.50 | rhowe | % |
22:19.54 | rhowe | (I guess) |
22:20.51 | George | I somehow doubt that |
22:21.03 | George | BAH HUMBUG TO UNITLESS VALUES |
22:21.09 | arika-chan | 13 |
22:21.15 | George | arika-chan: mental age? |
22:21.21 | arika-chan | yours |
22:21.25 | George | nah |
22:21.40 | George | his name is gregj |
22:21.47 | George | funny funny funny |
22:22.54 | rhowe | I think it's one of these - http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SC420I |
22:23.00 | rhowe | 420VA |
22:23.17 | George | mine's a 1200VA one |
22:23.47 | rhowe | Well, aren't you a spoiled little rich kid? :P |
22:23.53 | George | rhowe: no |
22:23.59 | George | rhowe: it runs all my father's work email |
22:24.06 | George | rhowe: he deemed it a necessary company expense. |
22:24.10 | rhowe | George: That doesn't count, then |
22:24.16 | George | rhowe: it's still my server |
22:24.33 | rhowe | George: All our work email runs off a 4.6kVA Symmetra RM or something |
22:25.08 | rhowe | hm, 4kVA, I think |
22:26.38 | rhowe | We should probably upgrade it to 6 |
22:26.46 | George | http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=IS100KH |
22:26.51 | George | need to get me one of those :D |
22:27.25 | rhowe | You'll need a 3-phase supply for that |
22:27.35 | George | yeah |
22:27.37 | George | I saw |
22:30.42 | rhowe | One of these would do, too - http://www.ledpowerpro.com/APC40kW.JPG |
22:31.26 | George | cute |
22:31.37 | George | that would power my server for nearly a day |
22:31.41 | rhowe | "Nokia - Four Parallel Silcon 225kW UPS" |
23:46.25 | George | ibot 7.5*18 |
23:46.26 | ibot | 135 |