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`06:10.11`	`Cope\|Home`	`morning chums`
`06:40.22`	`morsing`	`'morning`
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`06:40.38`	`morsing`	`shai!`
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`06:40.55`	`shaibn`	`hi :)`
`06:41.16`	`shaibn`	`wassup morsing ?`
`06:41.48`	`morsing`	`Nothing. Got out of bed 40 secs ago :)`
`07:02.14`	`Cope`	`bye bye Cope\|Home`
`07:02.24`	`Cope\|Home`	`Cheerio!`
`07:39.52`	`morsing`	`Mmm...`
`07:56.43`	`murb`	`someone please drop bombs on the local church bells`
`07:59.59`	`Tarragon`	`I thought they did not start until about 10am?`
`08:01.01`	`murb`	`09:59 < Tarragon>`
`08:01.11`	`murb`	`and no i'm in deutschland and they start a good bit earlier`
`08:01.17`	`murb`	`so much for sunday being a rest day`
`08:05.13`	`morsing`	`murb: Movie!`
`08:06.05`	`shaibn`	`morning ...`
`08:06.44`	`shaibn`	`murb, Kolab took 12 hours to finish the install on that old celeron 300mhz :)`
`08:06.46`	`shaibn`	`lol`
`08:08.37`	`shaibn`	`morning Leeds`
`08:08.50`	`shaibn`	`i'm hosting at home, a few sites. i have 1 static ip from my ISP. i want to have two of them ssl secured. they are both two different domain names. is that possible?`
`08:09.08`	`murb`	`shaibn: you must run them on different ports`
`08:09.17`	`shaibn`	`oh`
`08:09.25`	`shaibn`	`443 445 447 etc etc ?`
`08:09.25`	`murb`	`because or get an ssl certificate with a *`
`08:09.43`	`shaibn`	`"because or get" ?`
`08:11.34`	`murb`	`shaibn: the domain names must be simular`
`08:12.06`	`murb`	`so sitea.mysite.il and siteb.mysite.il where the certificate has a cn=*.mysite.il`
`08:12.17`	`murb`	`alternatively run on different ports but that isn't very nice either.`
`08:13.28`	`shaibn`	`and what about mydomain.com and otherdomain.com ?`
`08:13.46`	`murb`	`in that case 2 certificates and different ports, or a second ip :(`
`08:14.53`	`shaibn`	`i see.`
`08:17.06`	`murb`	`shaibn: you got your l2tpd running yesterday?`
`08:32.19`	`shaibn`	`nope.`
`08:32.24`	`shaibn`	`waited for you to return ...`
`08:38.52`	`Leeds`	`or, possibly not, at least to test`
`08:42.21`	`murb`	`shaibn: so you have l2tpd installed now?`
`08:45.52`	`shaibn`	`nope.`
`08:45.56`	`shaibn`	`waited for you to return ...`
`08:45.59`	`murb`	`ok`
`08:46.02`	`shaibn`	`oh!`
`08:46.10`	`shaibn`	`l2tpd .. yes i do .`
`08:46.15`	`shaibn`	`but i aint home ... :(`
`08:46.17`	`shaibn`	`i'm at work ...`
`08:46.31`	`shaibn`	`and probably, when i return home, you won't be available ... cuz of time diffs ...`
`08:46.42`	`shaibn`	`or maybe you will...`
`08:46.49`	`shaibn`	`what's your time?`
`08:49.24`	`murb`	`UTC+2 ich denke`
`08:53.23`	`AndrewBlack`	`one of my machines won't boot. Disk is full.`
`08:53.28`	`AndrewBlack`	`time for a tidy!`
`08:59.38`	`shaibn`	`murb, what's the time right now for you?`
`08:59.51`	`shaibn`	`i'm not very good with converting time zones`
`09:00.18`	`shaibn`	`anyways... did get l2tpd working ...`
`09:00.23`	`Leeds`	`shai: he's an hour behind you`
`09:00.26`	`shaibn`	`do you want to cont. helping me with the test of it?`
`09:00.42`	`shaibn`	`hi Leeds :)`
`09:00.50`	`shaibn`	`s/test/rest/`
`09:01.59`	`Leeds`	`hi`
`09:02.54`	`mozrat`	AndrewBlack: `find / -name "porn" \| xargs rm` ?
`09:08.12`	`AndrewBlack`	`bah`
`09:08.24`	`AndrewBlack`	`actually the problem is backups of backups`
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`09:10.26`	`AndrewBlack`	`e{1,3}ore - can't you make your mind up how to spell your name :-)`
`09:15.24`	`Leeds`	`bah`
`09:17.30`	`eyore`	`bother`
`09:17.56`	`eyore`	`can anyone see this?`
`09:18.09`	`Leeds`	`eyore:`
`09:18.12`	`Leeds`	`Cope: me too`
`09:18.31`	`eyore`	`i thought you needed to auth with nickserv to talk?`
`09:18.47`	`Leeds`	`eyore: nope, only to /msg`
`09:19.01`	`eyore`	`omg what a waste of 15minutes`
`09:19.17`	`eyore`	`:)`
`09:19.33`	`Leeds`	`how many names did you just register?`
`09:19.49`	`eyore`	`a thousand or none. i'm not entirely sure`
`09:20.15`	`eyore`	`probably none`
`09:20.31`	`eyore`	`i think maybe i left an irc client logged in somewhere yesterday`
`09:22.05`	`AndrewBlack`	`grr - why does find have -maxdepth and du have --max-depth`
`09:22.31`	`Cope`	`probably because du is a gnu tool, and find isn't.`
`09:22.39`	`Cope`	`at a guess`
`09:23.17`	`AndrewBlack`	`except "GNU find version 4.1.20"`
`09:23.29`	`Cope`	`that would be a noteworthy exception to the rule.`
`09:24.26`	`Leeds`	`hmm... I may have to go buy a NIC`
`09:26.13`	`murb`	`Leeds: can you buy decent nics in .hk?`
`09:26.22`	`murb`	`the shops here seem to only have rtl8139s`
`09:26.27`	`Leeds`	`one would assume so - I've never bought one here`
`09:26.39`	`murb`	`quite funny the price difference for a card with the same chipset`
`09:26.48`	`murb`	`you can spend up to 40 euros for one that is Ready for DSL`
`09:26.52`	`Cope`	`Leeds: has your broken?`
`09:27.10`	`Leeds`	`Cope: no, but I'm thinking of making $FILESERVER into $ROUTER at the same time`
`09:27.12`	`alp`	`i want 24 carat gold BNC connectors, dammit`
`09:27.14`	`Cope`	`mummy has finally demanded her laptop back; so I must get my rt2500 one working`
`09:27.28`	`Cope`	`and i never have`
`09:27.37`	`Leeds`	`Cope: that would be exactly what I'm trying to do right now - and I'm about to give up and go buy another wired NIC`
`09:27.55`	`Cope`	`even though iwconfig invariably gives stats indicating all is fine`
`09:28.01`	`Cope`	`i can't ever ping the gw`
`09:28.04`	`Cope`	`grgrgrgggrgrrr`
`09:28.12`	`Cope`	`Leeds: unfortunately wired is not an option for me`
`09:28.37`	`Cope`	`i am now going to test the card under windows to make sure the actual card is ok`
`09:29.02`	`alp`	`rt4x00s are supposed to work fine, i had one working out of the box a while ago with an ubuntu dapper`
`09:29.03`	`Cope`	`oh, and machines can't share a key can they?`
`09:29.30`	`Cope`	`so i have to shut down my connection to the world to test the rt2500`
`09:29.36`	`Cope`	`as i only have one key`
`09:29.44`	`Leeds`	`the issue I'm having right now is that - however I'm configured - the machine will respond to packets destined for $WIRELESS_IP if they come in on the wired interface...`
`09:29.49`	`Cope`	`and then i don't have connectivitity to google`
`09:30.12`	`Leeds`	`good old catch-22, eh...`
`09:32.11`	`eyore`	`my wireless is sucking`
`09:32.19`	`eyore`	`i just got a "T" card to try`
`09:32.28`	`Leeds`	`hmm... the Israeli government took office less than a week ago, and the first no-confidence motion has been filed`
`09:32.42`	`Leeds`	`eye69: my cousin is using powerline ethernet and is pretty happy with it`
`09:32.54`	`eyore`	`good to democracy at work`
`09:32.57`	`eyore`	`*see`
`09:33.01`	`Leeds`	`eyore: you're going to have to change your name :-)`
`09:33.16`	`eyore`	`why?`
`09:33.23`	`Leeds`	`because xchat sucks`
`09:33.29`	`mozrat`	`Leeds: it was me that said "powerline ethernet"`
`09:33.50`	`eyore`	`in what way does xchat sucking affect my nick`
`09:34.02`	`murb`	`Leeds: i was thinking about that, but hmm was wondering how standardised it has become`
`09:34.09`	`murb`	`and if it is just pointopoint`
`09:34.18`	`murb`	`as the devices only seem to be sold in pairs`
`09:34.41`	`Leeds`	`I believe you can treat it as a ring`
`09:35.31`	`Leeds`	`hmm... I haven't bought a wired NIC in years - I suppose I should be looking at gigabit ones now`
`09:35.41`	`murb`	`the box i looked at was talking about DES encryption as well.`
`09:36.07`	`murb`	`Leeds: whihc means auto cross over foo which would be useful on its own.`
`09:36.18`	`Leeds`	`true`
`09:36.43`	`murb`	`i think the 1gb standard mandates that if not requies it.`
`09:36.43`	`Leeds`	`apart from eepro1000, any suggestions or avoids?`
`09:36.56`	`murb`	`apparently the rtl based chipset isn't so bad this time arround`
`09:37.11`	`murb`	`(although there is probably a revision 2 or something that costs 50c less to make and is)`
`09:37.25`	`Leeds`	`and should I realistically expect any off-the-shelf card to work with Linux?`
`09:37.32`	`murb`	`i think so.`
`09:37.43`	`Leeds`	`I may pop in here from the mall to confirm...`
`09:37.45`	`murb`	`that has been my experience so far with random new motherboards with built in stuff.`
`09:37.55`	`murb`	`although this is with recentish 2.6 kernel.`
`09:38.05`	`eyore`	`gigabit nics? they largely work with modern distros`
`09:38.06`	`murb`	`i know the debian installer with a 2.4 kernel didn't see the interfaces.`
`09:38.23`	`Leeds`	`my machines are all 2.6 nowadays anyway`
`09:38.33`	`eyore`	`except broadcom which appear to work but are full of bugs`
`09:38.38`	`Cope`	`lol`
`09:38.40`	`murb`	`oh and the sky2 based stuff are known to have problems`
`09:38.46`	`murb`	`or atleast driver bugs`
`09:39.10`	`murb`	`Leeds: if you wait 30 seconds i'll check what i've got here.`
`09:39.10`	`Leeds`	`laters`
`09:39.14`	`Leeds`	`sure`
`09:39.26`	`Cope`	`i've used broadcom ones`
`09:39.33`	`Cope`	`but with broadcom drivers`
`09:39.40`	`Cope`	`not 'linux' drivers`
`09:39.45`	`eyore`	`broadcom are ok at low traffic levels, but saturate the line and you get random kernel panics, or under solaris the networking subsystem falls over`
`09:40.20`	`eyore`	`both drivers have bugs`
`09:40.20`	`murb`	`Leeds: i'm using a Marvell tech 88E8001 with the sky2 driver`
`09:40.51`	`Cope`	`eyore: ok; well i've been using them for 2.5 years on hundreds of busy machines without a single problem`
`09:40.55`	`Leeds`	`murb: that's a PCI, not onboard?`
`09:40.55`	`Cope`	`maybe i've been lucky`
`09:41.06`	`eyore`	`Cope: maybe you got lucky`
`09:41.10`	`murb`	`Leeds: this one is onboard but they make pci interfaces with that as well.`
`09:41.23`	`eyore`	`caused random lockups on our Dell2650`
`09:41.25`	`Leeds`	`okay, I'll look out for it... laters`
`09:41.30`	`Leeds`	`and thanks`
`09:41.42`	`eyore`	`of course i expect there are a myriad of different revisions`
`09:42.09`	`eyore`	`i dug around in some kernel mailing list`
`09:42.36`	`eyore`	`and apparently the hardware is buggy and the windows drivers contains loads of workarounds and broadcom won't release full details`
`09:42.43`	`Cope`	`eww`
`09:42.46`	`eyore`	`usual kind of story`
`09:44.11`	`murb`	`rembers even`
`09:44.47`	`eyore`	`those dell 2650 have faulty motherboards too`
`09:45.15`	`eyore`	`something to do with the ACPI bios bit not releasing memory causes it to always fail memory tests`
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`10:01.03`	`LeedsTreo`	`ibot change 390 hkd to gbp`
`10:01.27`	`LeedsTreo`	`reasonable price for an OEM pro1000?`
`10:02.15`	`LeedsTreo`	`murb?`
`10:02.21`	`murb`	`LeedsTreo: i have ibot on /ignore`
`10:02.43`	`LeedsTreo`	`ah, sorry - $390 is about 27 GBP`
`10:02.44`	`z00dax`	`LeedsTreo: thats a good price, for a pro1000`
`10:03.11`	`LeedsTreo`	`ibot change 390 HKD to eur`
`10:03.27`	`LeedsTreo`	`that's 39.5 at today's rate...`
`10:03.29`	`murb`	`from the gbp it should be about 40 quid`
`10:03.33`	`murb`	`ahah`
`10:04.30`	`LeedsTreo`	`hkd has fallen by about 8%-10% in the past 10 days or so`
`10:05.09`	`z00dax`	`that card is about the same price here in the UK`
`10:05.36`	`LeedsTreo`	`retail over-the-counter using a c/c?`
`10:06.37`	`LeedsTreo`	`it really is nice to be able to pop out at 5:30pm on a Sunday to a busy and fully-open computer mall, 10 minutes away by bus :-)`
`10:07.15`	`z00dax`	`LeedsTreo: its about £25 to £30 + vat from most of the online stores`
`10:07.28`	`z00dax`	`I have no idea about over the counter retail anymore`
`10:07.33`	`LeedsTreo`	`mmm... 4GB SD :-)`
`10:09.09`	`LeedsTreo`	`no-one shops online here, strangely - it's quicker/easier/as-cheap to just pop to the shops`
`10:12.42`	`Cope`	`brb`
`10:14.36`	`morsing`	`MURB!`
`10:14.47`	`mozrat`	`hey morsing`
`10:15.01`	`z00dax`	`hey Everybody!`
`10:15.16`	`mozrat`	`hellO!!`
`10:15.27`	`z00dax`	`howse the weekend been so far ?`
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`10:15.45`	`mozrat`	`not so bad - going swimming in a asec`
`10:17.06`	`z00dax`	`heya Cope`
`10:17.18`	`morsing`	`Has anything been posted to this list since we messed with my mailserveR?`
`10:17.46`	`z00dax`	`morsing: last post i see is from midnight last night`
`10:18.00`	`morsing`	`From Paul M`
`10:18.03`	`morsing`	`Cool`
`10:18.08`	`z00dax`	`yea`
`10:18.41`	`morsing`	`Hey - does anyone want to donate money to get my BMW back on the road? :)`
`10:19.16`	`morsing`	`Hmm...`
`10:19.36`	`morsing`	`I need a cunning scam`
`10:19.52`	`LeedsTreo`	`Cope: does the card work?`
`10:20.07`	`morsing`	`LeedsTreo: Do you have GPS on your Treo?`
`10:20.23`	`LeedsTreo`	`no... I could get bluetooth or (ps`
`10:20.34`	`morsing`	`ps?`
`10:20.46`	`LeedsTreo`	`possibly) SD - but there are no English HK maps`
`10:20.57`	`LeedsTreo`	`not for PalmOS anyway`
`10:21.03`	`morsing`	`Hmm...`
`10:21.25`	`LeedsTreo`	`tomtom have a hardware/software package...`
`10:21.35`	`morsing`	`LeedsTreo: How much?`
`10:21.55`	`LeedsTreo`	`no idea how much - not cheap, I think`
`10:22.52`	`z00dax`	`LeedsTreo: rtl8169 based cards not an option ?`
`10:23.13`	`Cope`	`LeedsTreo: not tried it yet; debricking first`
`10:23.25`	`LeedsTreo`	`z00dax: ethernet? I bought the pro1000 and I'm already on the bus home :-)`
`10:23.35`	`z00dax`	`LeedsTreo: ah :)`
`10:23.40`	`Cope`	`:)`
`10:24.23`	`Cope`	`morsing: isn't that miles away?`
`10:24.36`	`LeedsTreo`	`it's bloody convenient, really... computer malls open until about 9pm 7 days a week, nearest is a few minutes by bus`
`10:24.55`	`Cope`	`and buses run reliably and on time?`
`10:25.12`	`Cope`	`and are clean, and not populated by nutters?`
`10:25.28`	`LeedsTreo`	`certainly do - and they're relatively cheap - this is about 40p, I think`
`10:25.39`	`z00dax`	`i havent found a single retail outlet, not even the local h/w vendors, within striking distance from me here.. who are worth going to`
`10:26.12`	`Cope`	`z00dax: and especially no xinit`
`10:26.19`	`Cope`	`:)`
`10:26.31`	`z00dax`	`Cope: different ballgame :)`
`10:26.31`	`Cope`	`ok, ok, they're not a retail outlet :)`
`10:26.44`	`LeedsTreo`	`there are probably 50+ units in the nearest mall - out of 7 or so in HK`
`10:26.46`	`z00dax`	`they wont sell you an ethernet card :)`
`10:27.01`	`Cope`	`no, but they'll charge you for one anyway`
`10:27.03`	`Cope`	`;)`
`10:27.19`	`z00dax`	`!)`
`10:27.47`	`mozrat`	`Did I show you this already? http://www.earth.li/~noodles/blog/xinit-suck.html`
`10:28.02`	`z00dax`	`no, /me checks`
`10:29.00`	`Cope`	`for some reason, getfirefox sent me to taiwan, and i've been downloading the firefox setup program for... 12 minutes, and its only on 63%`
`10:29.30`	`Cope`	`by now most IE users would have said "fuck this" and binned the download,`
`10:29.32`	`LeedsTreo`	`are you not in .tw?`
`10:30.09`	`murb`	`Cope: no they'll have blamed their isp and posted to various boards and windged on irc.`
`10:30.16`	`Cope`	`hehe`
`10:31.06`	`z00dax`	`mozrat: all that is true, unfortunately.`
`10:31.39`	`mozrat`	`oh well`
`10:31.41`	`mozrat`	`swimming !!`
`10:31.46`	`mozrat`	`afk`
`10:32.02`	`z00dax`	`i dont know / remember what the details were ( I was not at xinit at the time ), but blackcat did come up in a few meetings late last year`
`10:32.17`	`Cope`	`y'know; de-bricked windows isn't so bad...`
`10:32.51`	`z00dax`	`Cope: blasphemy!`
`10:33.04`	`LeedsTreo`	`what does de-bricked mean?`
`10:33.44`	`Cope`	`put cygwin on it; shut down useless services; get rid of IE; use mostly cygin tools or tools on other machines`
`10:34.07`	`LeedsTreo`	`seems a little pointless..`
`10:34.25`	`murb`	`install CoLinux use putty full screen`
`10:34.26`	`Cope`	`erm,`
`10:34.28`	`Cope`	`ok`
`10:34.32`	`murb`	`run an local Xserver`
`10:34.37`	`murb`	`but then you may as well have installed linux`
`10:34.40`	`Cope`	`murb: that's what i'm doing`
`10:34.43`	`murb`	`and avoided the windows overhad.`
`10:34.45`	`murb`	`s/had/head/`
`10:34.52`	`Cope`	`murb: yes, unless you have things you need to use windows for`
`10:35.08`	`Cope`	`such as software from work that only runs on windows`
`10:35.15`	`murb`	`Cope: qemu + wine are enough for my requirements, i don't know about you.`
`10:35.22`	`Cope`	`not tried for years`
`10:35.31`	`Cope`	`might give that a punt for interest`
`10:36.33`	`Cope`	`anyway, the point is, and i grant that this isn't a hacker attitude; things under windows generally do just work; and I don't have to spend days arseing about to get something that works 80% as well.`
`10:38.12`	`Cope`	`brb`
`10:38.33`	`Leeds`	`home`
`10:40.27`	`Cope`	`i suppose that i do a relatively small subset of things, so normally i have no annoyances with linux; but then something comes along, and i have to spend ages fucking about, when on the work laptop it takes 30 secs`
`10:40.54`	`Cope`	`yet on the work laptop i have acess to exactly the same tool set as on my linux machine`
`10:40.59`	`Cope`	`with exactly the same interface`
`10:41.02`	`Cope`	`but no ball ache`
`10:49.26`	`Leeds`	`Cope: we do so love to hear about your balls`
`10:54.14`	`Cope`	`:)`
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`11:29.13`	`wethrin`	`hello`
`11:30.03`	`*** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@ipvpn095206.netvigator.com)`
`11:30.36`	`SlayerXP`	`but i don't tihnk we should let leeds know`
`11:30.39`	`SlayerXP`	`oops, damned lag`
`11:30.44`	`morsing`	`leds!`
`11:30.53`	`Leeds`	`mrsing!`
`11:31.16`	`morsing`	`where,s TAB on this thing?`
`11:31.25`	`wethrin`	`On your left!`
`11:31.29`	`Leeds`	`shift-space`
`11:31.49`	`morsing`	`Leeds: :)`
`11:32.20`	`Leeds`	`morsing: getting more used to it now?`
`11:32.21`	`morsing`	`wethrin: huh?`
`11:32.26`	`morsing`	`Leeds: yes`
`11:32.47`	`morsing`	`what's on my left?`
`11:33.17`	`wethrin`	`TAB?`
`11:33.26`	`morsing`	`n`
`11:33.29`	`wethrin`	`oh`
`11:33.31`	`morsing`	`No it isn't`
`11:33.57`	`morsing`	`Leeds: can it mulyitask?`
`11:34.20`	`morsing`	`s/mulyi/mu.ti/`
`11:34.29`	`morsing`	`sigh`
`11:34.49`	`Leeds`	`sort of`
`11:35.01`	`morsing`	`wethrin: thabks`
`11:35.20`	`morsing`	`so can I make a phone call?`
`11:35.54`	`Leeds`	`there are programs written to run partly or fully as background processes, either popping up themselves on some event (incoming email, for example) or having some way of calling them up`
`11:36.00`	`Leeds`	`normal programs, however, run one-at-a-time`
`11:38.25`	`Erwin`	`Ah, shift space for tab. thanks. I've been annoying with having to use space for lining up items in memopad`
`11:38.59`	`Leeds`	`it's not the most obvious combo`
`11:39.09`	`morsing`	`Leeds: How do I get pipe?`
`11:39.26`	`morsing`	`\|`
`11:39.32`	`morsing`	`~`
`11:39.33`	`Erwin`	`I still need to install ChatterEmail, but I haven't used that much email lately`
`11:39.47`	`morsing`	`\|`
`11:40.41`	`morsing`	`Leeds: how do I exit screen?`
`11:40.41`	`Erwin`	`Leeds: How about things like: go to end of the line or the beginning, or select a whole line? Do you need the toucpad for that?`
`11:40.53`	`Leeds`	`morsing: uh, ctrl-a, d`
`11:41.00`	`morsing`	`:)`
`11:41.38`	`Leeds`	`Erwin: in what context?`
`11:42.49`	`Leeds`	`morsing: in pssh, the center button is ctrl`
`11:43.19`	`Erwin`	`Leeds: Editing things in memopad. I use it as a pseudo-todo list, so when something is done I remove it.`
`11:44.04`	`Leeds`	`ah, I think you need to go to the screen for that, yes`
`11:49.27`	`Leeds`	`Cope: for a refund?`
`11:49.40`	`Cope`	`sodding driver installer just "crashes" without any logs or info`
`11:49.49`	`Cope`	`and of course, I have no control over it`
`11:49.50`	`Cope`	`:)`
`11:49.55`	`Cope`	`give me linux any time`
`11:52.22`	`Leeds`	`Cope: that is, of course, the point`
`11:52.37`	`Cope`	`Leeds: yes, which i had foolishly forgotten`
`11:53.34`	`Leeds`	`say 10 Hail Linuses and 10 Ave RMSes and you shall be forgiven, my son`
`11:53.51`	`Cope`	`at least with linux i will eventually get it to work, i'll learn something from the exercise, have some fun, and be in control./`
`12:08.34`	`Erwin`	`St. IGNUcusius blesses you -- http://www.stallman.org/saintignucius.jpg`
`12:14.39`	`SlayerXP`	`looks suspiciously like Herr Cox`
`12:15.01`	`shaibn`	`he SlayerXP`
`12:15.04`	`SlayerXP`	`it's not, but same sort of thing`
`12:15.08`	`shaibn`	`shai, you around?`
`12:15.21`	`shai`	`:)`
`12:15.22`	`SlayerXP`	`alan cox has stayed at my house.`
`12:15.25`	`SlayerXP`	`so ner.`
`12:18.50`	`Erwin`	`Does he still? AC is taking an MBA`
`12:19.18`	`Erwin`	`Hmm, actually that was in September 2003 :)`
`12:19.41`	`SlayerXP`	`Clues paid for him to attned the DTI meeting re: licencing of the code produced by publically-funded research projects`
`12:19.56`	`Erwin`	`His diary seems to be in Welsh now`
`12:20.15`	`Leeds`	`Erwin: strangely enough, his readership fell to almost zero at about the time that happened`
`12:20.40`	`Leeds`	`I suspect, anyway`
`12:21.28`	`Erwin`	`Odd that he does consulting work, I would have thought he also could get a high-paying job doing Linux`
`12:21.56`	`Leeds`	`who, Alan Cox? Uh, isn't he employed by RedHat any more?`
`12:23.26`	`Erwin`	`According to the English part of the diary, he is a technical consultant for http://www.offshoreexecutive.com/`
`12:28.24`	`Leeds`	`I may be a cynic, but I'm not sure that offshorexecutive is 100% serious`
`12:30.31`	`morsing`	`Check it!`
`12:33.17`	`Leeds`	`100 packets transmitted, 66 received, 34% packet loss, time 99025ms`
`12:33.25`	`morsing`	`ping Leeds`
`12:33.29`	`Leeds`	`that's to linux.org.hk from here`
`12:33.38`	`murb`	`Leeds: i'm seeing something like that as well.`
`12:34.14`	`Leeds`	`murb: it's, well, slightly worse than normal, but I rarely see 100% throughput here...`
`12:34.32`	`Leeds`	`rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 329.787/524.077/814.919/93.503 ms - which is slower than doing the same ping from a machine in the US`
`12:34.34`	`Leeds`	`uh, UK`
`12:35.08`	`murb`	`well the pages at linux.org.uk have not opened`
`12:35.22`	`Leeds`	`murb: linux.org.hk! not linux.org.uk`
`12:35.31`	`morsing`	`murb: Vodie`
`12:35.45`	`murb`	`oh`
`12:35.46`	`murb`	`i can't read`
`12:35.48`	`Leeds`	`morsing: did you want something`
`12:35.56`	`morsing`	`murb: It's an anagram`
`12:36.09`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Just checking ping times to HK :)`
`12:36.10`	`shaibn`	`hmm...`
`12:36.15`	`morsing`	`About 83 seconds!`
`12:36.16`	`shaibn`	`centos frooze :(`
`12:36.28`	`Leeds`	`shaibn: blame z00dax`
`12:36.37`	`SlayerXP`	`i concur`
`12:36.40`	`shaibn`	`well.. it finished installing...`
`12:36.40`	`SlayerXP`	`it's clearly his fault`
`12:36.46`	`morsing`	`SlayerXP: You suck`
`12:36.47`	`shaibn`	`and then ejected the 3rd cd`
`12:36.55`	`shaibn`	`rebooted and didn't load again ...`
`12:36.59`	`SlayerXP`	`morsing: i nibble gently too, drives the ladies wild.`
`12:37.23`	`morsing`	`~seen George`
`12:37.44`	`ibot`	`george is currently on #openzaurus (1d 19h 56m 47s) #opie (1d 19h 56m 47s) #handhelds.org (1d 19h 56m 47s) #zaurus (1d 19h 56m 47s) #elinux (1d 19h 56m 47s) #intimate (1d 19h 56m 47s). Has said a total of 139 messages. Is idling for 1d 14h 56m 15s, last said: 'arika-chan: I don't like you anymore'.`
`12:37.45`	`wethrin`	`He's still not back yet.`
`12:38.00`	`morsing`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:38.15`	`morsing`	`George?`
`12:38.33`	`Leeds`	`morsing: do you know what #intimate is?`
`12:38.41`	`morsing`	`Yes`
`12:39.28`	`morsing`	`But since George doesn't like girls I don't want to think about what he is doing there...`
`12:40.33`	`Leeds`	`uh...`
`12:41.00`	`Cope`	`george has left gllug`
`12:41.03`	`Cope`	`he tells me`
`12:41.07`	`Leeds`	`hmm... temperature hit 31 degrees today... and I should be going out about now if I'm going to get my fish'n'chips`
`12:41.11`	`SlayerXP`	`i saw him say that`
`12:41.18`	`SlayerXP`	`i don't think we're that lucky, though`
`12:41.29`	`Cope`	`SlayerXP: scary! you were in my room this morning when he spoke to me on msn!?`
`12:41.59`	`SlayerXP`	`....`
`12:42.25`	`Leeds`	`Cope: gllug or #gllug?`
`12:42.49`	`morsing`	`Cope: Are you serious?`
`12:42.56`	`Cope`	`he said gllug - i don't know whether that was super or subset`
`12:43.00`	`SlayerXP`	`he said it in here yesterday, or the day before`
`12:43.07`	`Cope`	`i just said ok`
`12:43.14`	`SlayerXP`	`i declared may 5th AGW day shortly after`
`12:43.14`	`wethrin`	`I think you annoyed him too much, SlayerXP :)`
`12:43.17`	`Cope`	`as its not been long enough for me to determine if he is being serious`
`12:44.03`	`shaibn`	`Leeds, how far back do we go mate?`
`12:44.07`	`SlayerXP`	`in theory he has me on ignore`
`12:44.10`	`SlayerXP`	`so it's not my fault`
`12:44.19`	`Leeds`	`SlayerXP: not on the mailing list`
`12:44.19`	`SlayerXP`	`someone else gets the medal`
`12:44.30`	`Leeds`	`shaibn: well, it was pesach... 3 years ago? 4?`
`12:45.08`	`Leeds`	`more?`
`12:45.08`	`shaibn`	`how do you know it was pesach ?`
`12:45.30`	`Leeds`	`because I was at my parents' place in Leeds, and I saw you on IRC and said Chag Sameach`
`12:45.39`	`Leeds`	`as a random Israeli`
`12:45.40`	`shaibn`	`lol`
`12:45.43`	`shaibn`	`and you remember that?`
`12:45.49`	`Leeds`	`sure`
`12:45.55`	`shaibn`	`damn you got a good memorey`
`12:46.01`	`shaibn`	`memory*`
`12:46.19`	`Leeds`	`for some things, yes`
`12:55.28`	`morsing`	`Moo`
`12:56.37`	`SlayerXP`	`right. well I need to completely reinstall my debian desktop.`
`12:56.42`	`SlayerXP`	`so, back in 20 minutes or so.`
`12:56.44`	`morsing`	`Bye`
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`14:40.40`	`JAV`	`hello`
`14:55.28`	`morsing`	`JAV!`
`14:57.07`	`morsing`	`How can supposedly intelligent people introduce something as pointless as a hose pipe ban?`
`14:58.48`	`Leeds`	`are you insulting a great British tradition?`
`15:00.00`	`morsing`	`Leeds: According to Thames water their reservoirs are ok`
`15:00.02`	`morsing`	`"Where we've got the problem is with the low water levels in the aquifers."`
`15:00.18`	`morsing`	`Now, they say the problem is lack of rainfall in 2004-2006`
`15:00.27`	`Leeds`	`there's your first mistake... it doesn't matter what they say`
`15:00.36`	`morsing`	`But for rain to reach the aquifers will take 30-40 years!`
`15:01.05`	`morsing`	`Also, hose pipe usage cannot possible account for more than 1% of private usage!`
`15:02.15`	`Leeds`	`I think it's more`
`15:02.32`	`morsing`	`Really? I very much doubt that`
`15:03.15`	`morsing`	`Leeds: What would the consequence of being caught be?`
`15:04.27`	`Leeds`	`thousand pound fine, in theory`
`15:04.35`	`morsing`	`http://www.spiked-online.com/Printable/0000000CAFD1.htm`
`15:04.45`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Where did you find that?`
`15:05.15`	`Leeds`	`"It is an offence to use a sprinkler or hose pipe when a ban is in place and therefore it may attract a fine of up to �1000." http://www.midkentwater.co.uk/household/efficiency/hosepipe%20Q&A.htm`
`15:06.27`	`morsing`	`But I'm actually allowed to take a bath (!) and then with a hose use that water to wash my car`
`15:06.38`	`morsing`	`They haven't got half a brain do they?`
`15:07.29`	`morsing`	`~seen George`
`15:07.32`	`ibot`	`george is currently on #openzaurus (1d 22h 26m 35s) #opie (1d 22h 26m 35s) #handhelds.org (1d 22h 26m 35s) #zaurus (1d 22h 26m 35s) #elinux (1d 22h 26m 35s) #intimate (1d 22h 26m 35s). Has said a total of 139 messages. Is idling for 1d 17h 26m 3s, last said: 'arika-chan: I don't like you anymore'.`
`15:07.47`	`morsing`	`Hmm...`
`15:07.51`	`Leeds`	`you can also continue to fill your pond and swimming pool`
`15:08.16`	`morsing`	`And water my garden and wash my cars as long as it's not with a hose...`
`15:08.29`	`Leeds`	`just in case you were wondering...`
`15:08.34`	`morsing`	`What they should do is install meters in all households`
`15:08.34`	`Leeds`	`yeah, use a watering can`
`15:09.05`	`Leeds`	`apparently they do, at least some of the companies... but they can't impose it on people, so it's only done with new homes or a change of contract`
`15:09.09`	`Cope`	`morsing: what we should do is live on one of the raniest countries in europe`
`15:09.11`	`Cope`	`oh... we do`
`15:09.21`	`morsing`	`Cope: No we don't`
`15:09.43`	`Cope`	`morsing: ok, let's find the top 5 rainiest countries in europe`
`15:09.59`	`morsing`	`Norway at the top`
`15:10.04`	`morsing`	`Denmark`
`15:10.08`	`morsing`	`Holland`
`15:10.11`	`morsing`	`Iceland`
`15:10.19`	`morsing`	`Fifth?`
`15:10.22`	`Leeds`	`Cope: do you remember the period a few years back where Yorkshire water was importing water from Newcastle...by tanker?`
`15:11.38`	`Leeds`	`it was just up the road from my parents' place... they had something like 1 tanker every 5 minutes, 24/7, driving up to the reservoir and just dumping the water in`
`15:12.01`	`Cope`	`morsing: cite your source, please`
`15:12.39`	`morsing`	`Cope: My source is guessing`
`15:12.59`	`morsing`	`Bergen is the rainiest place in the world`
`15:13.06`	`Leeds`	`it was amazing`
`15:15.47`	`Cope`	`morsing: then let's not guess, let's find the statistics`
`15:16.06`	`morsing`	`Cope: I can't. Trying`
`15:16.50`	`Cope`	`it is hard!`
`15:17.02`	`Cope`	`i haven't found them yet either!`
`15:17.15`	`Cope`	`Leeds: help us with your google fu`
`15:17.43`	`Leeds`	`working on it!`
`15:18.39`	`Leeds`	`incidentally, I walked past an establishment last night which made me do a double-take... it was a drinking establishment...`
`15:18.42`	`Leeds`	`called Fu Bar :-)`
`15:18.55`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Pictures pleassse`
`15:19.04`	`morsing`	`Or we won't believe you :)`
`15:19.22`	`Leeds`	`on my phone, naturally`
`15:19.50`	`morsing`	`George is playing hard to get`
`15:19.56`	`Cope`	`morsing: i've found the claim that norway is the rainiest, but it is only an assertion, not backed up by any meteorological evidence.`
`15:20.30`	`morsing`	`Cope: All danish schools teach that Norway is the rainiest. That was a no-brainer`
`15:21.34`	`Cope`	`morsing: wel i grew up in scotland, and was taught that scotland was the raniest`
`15:23.04`	`Leeds`	`we always knew that Yorkshire was the rainest region in England`
`15:23.59`	`Leeds`	`http://wanderingjew.co.uk/static/fubar1.jpg and fubar2.jpg - 1 is their sign, but it came out very badly because it's bright in the night... you can just make out the name`
`15:28.35`	`Leeds`	`http://www.fao.org/statistics/yearbook/vol_1_1/pdf/a05.pdf - "Water use and national rainfall indexes"`
`15:30.04`	`Leeds`	`Papua New Guinea is apparently the wettest place in the world`
`15:32.20`	`wethrin`	`Leeds: How much does a small European country cost, then?`
`15:33.00`	`shaibn`	`bah! Zimbra is also hard to setup with ThunderBird`
`15:33.50`	`Leeds`	`are we including former soviet places?`
`15:33.50`	`shaibn`	`though, it in itself isn't hard to install at all .. which is a nice thought ...`
`15:33.54`	`Cope`	`initial scan looks to me like 1) Norway 2) Ireland 3) UK`
`15:34.02`	`Leeds`	`oh, and I'm only looking at the 2002 figures`
`15:34.02`	`wethrin`	`Leeds: Yeah`
`15:34.05`	`wethrin`	`I think they're cheap`
`15:34.08`	`Leeds`	`Cope: Georgia beats Norway`
`15:34.23`	`Cope`	`Leeds: i was looking at 1991-2000 as a better range`
`15:34.45`	`Cope`	`Leeds: in which case norway beats georgia`
`15:34.51`	`Leeds`	`ah...`
`15:34.57`	`Leeds`	`in 2002, Ireland beat Norway`
`15:34.58`	`Cope`	`but i hadn't counted georgia as europe`
`15:35.38`	`Cope`	`anyway, i think statistically, we are on safe ground saying that uk is one of the wettest countries in europe.`
`15:36.04`	`Leeds`	`Kuwait: 36???`
`15:36.41`	`Cope`	`Leeds: ethiopia is rainier than france`
`15:41.18`	`Leeds`	`well, we have a very clear - and as yet unmentioned here - winner for Europe...`
`15:41.56`	`Leeds`	`Switzerland`
`15:42.46`	`Leeds`	`ooh, vim... :sort :-)`
`15:43.17`	`Leeds`	`2002 figures, in order, top 10:`
`15:43.50`	`Leeds`	`Switzerland, Georgia, Ireland, Norway, Austria, Albania, UK, Belgium, Portugal, Slovenia`
`15:44.45`	`shaibn`	`time to go home ... cya`
`15:46.47`	`Leeds`	`to be fair, in 1991-2000 figures, Norway beats Switzerland, which inches out Georgia`
`15:47.19`	`Erwin`	`Really, Switzerland is rainy? Or is it all precipitation?`
`15:47.27`	`Leeds`	`are we bored of meteorology yet? :-)`
`15:47.34`	`Leeds`	`it's listed as rainfall - don't know if it counts snow as well`
`15:51.13`	`Erwin`	`I wonder what the rainfall is if we go per city rather than the whole country`
`15:51.48`	`Leeds`	`you're going to have to find those stats yourself - it took me long enough to find the national stats and it's getting to bedtime :-P`
`15:53.23`	`Erwin`	`Bush reveals his biggest and best moment in his 5 years of presidency:`
`15:53.30`	`Erwin`	`Catching a big fish. http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1692695,0005.htm`
`15:55.02`	`morsing`	`Having lived in DK and UK I don't believe UK has more rain than DK. At least no timewise`
`15:55.09`	`morsing`	`s/no/not/`
`15:57.02`	`morsing`	`Leeds! George is being mean to me :(`
`15:57.24`	`Leeds`	`morsing: how so?`
`15:57.56`	`morsing`	`He's msg'ing me to stop sending him emails`
`15:57.56`	`Leeds`	`oh, and precisely how much of the UK have you lived in, given that both Yorkshire and Scotland certainly get a lot more rainfall than the south-east`
`15:58.05`	`wethrin`	`morsing: Have you been sending him emails?`
`15:58.09`	`morsing`	`Yes :(`
`15:58.30`	`Leeds`	`why?`
`15:58.32`	`wethrin`	`That was naughty :)`
`15:58.40`	`morsing`	`Leeds: I've been to yorkshire several times during the year and it didn't rain`
`15:58.50`	`morsing`	`Leeds: If I go to Denmark it does rain`
`15:59.02`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Why what?`
`15:59.25`	`Leeds`	`I've been to Denmark once and it didn't rain very much - ergo, it doesn't rain very much in Denmark`
`15:59.37`	`Leeds`	`why have you been harassing George?`
`15:59.39`	`murb`	`Leeds: it rained at the airport though in copenhagen`
`15:59.44`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Umm... Did you even talk to Bryan while he was there?!`
`15:59.47`	`murb`	`however it was nice at the airport in sweden`
`15:59.55`	`morsing`	`What was the first thing he told us?`
`16:00.08`	`morsing`	`Leeds: I haven't`
`16:00.15`	`murb`	`so i think flying to sweden is the best method for getting to the .dk`
`16:00.15`	`morsing`	`I just told him I missed him`
`16:00.23`	`morsing`	`murb: FO`
`16:00.40`	`murb`	`morsing: flying to .se was the cheapest way of getting to .dk`
`16:00.48`	`murb`	`since the bus cost less than 10 quid`
`16:00.56`	`murb`	`and took us to downtown copenhagen`
`16:01.21`	`murb`	`oh and we went over the bridge which was worth 10 quid anyway!`
`16:02.25`	`Erwin`	`But that's from Stansted, right?`
`16:04.11`	`murb`	`Erwin: stansted to MMX`
`16:04.22`	`murb`	`which cost then nearly nothing.`
`16:04.33`	`Leeds`	`right, it's Monday - I should be in bed`
`16:04.34`	`murb`	`although it did require an overnight bus journey (joy joy)`
`16:05.05`	`Erwin`	`Oh well, I pay some more but then walk a few minutes to the DLR and take 6 stops to London City airport :) Checkin about 30 minutes before departure, no lines`
`16:05.14`	`Leeds`	`g'night all`
`16:05.19`	`mozrat`	`nn Leeds`
`16:24.32`	`morsing`	`London City airport has commercial flights?!`
`16:25.08`	`mozrat`	`morsing: of course?`
`16:25.33`	`morsing`	`Right. And someone flies to CPH from there?`
`16:25.39`	`mozrat`	`BA and KLM...`
`16:26.17`	`mozrat`	`VLM fly from there as well I think`
`16:26.22`	`morsing`	`Right. So why do people go to Heathrow?`
`16:26.36`	`morsing`	`s/people/everyone/`
`16:26.39`	`mozrat`	`You can't do long haul from London City`
`16:26.54`	`mozrat`	`they only fly small jet and propellor aircraft from there`
`16:27.18`	`morsing`	`! LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.`
`16:27.26`	`morsing`	`Where?`
`16:27.43`	`mozrat`	`Where what?`
`16:28.28`	`morsing`	`Nevermind mind. I figured it out`
`16:28.59`	`murb`	`mozrat: VLM and Luxair`
`16:29.20`	`murb`	`mozrat: luxair fly or flew jets into city`
`16:29.22`	`murb`	`LCY`
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`16:33.03`	`morsing`	`So SuSE can't read DVI files...`
`16:37.26`	`mozrat`	`morsing: that would surprise me`
`16:42.02`	`morsing`	`Right, George is getting agressive`
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`17:03.55`	`shai`	`ping`
`17:04.01`	`shai`	`murb`
`17:06.23`	`wethrin`	`morsing: Oh?`
`17:52.32`	`Cope`	`morsing: he is?`
`18:04.55`	`morsing`	`Yes, telling me to fuck off or he'll filter me emails to /dev/null or something`
`18:06.45`	`Cope`	`hrm`
`18:25.41`	`wethrin`	`He's not being very friendly, then`
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`18:30.57`	`AndrewBlack`	`he wethrin - hows the new camera`
`18:31.03`	`shai`	`weeeeeeeeee! i got l2tp working :)`
`18:31.17`	`wethrin`	`It's rather nice, although I haven't got around to taking pictures I wanted today`
`18:31.23`	`shai`	`murb, you here that mate :) i got it connected...`
`18:31.25`	`wethrin`	`So I've only got some indoor shots of people from last night`
`19:00.26`	`AndrewBlack`	`are you in london at all soon?`
`19:02.20`	`wethrin`	`I'm passing through on Friday, but I can't stop`
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`19:19.36`	`murb`	`shai: functioniert?`
`19:38.30`	`shai`	`functioniert? ?`
`19:39.10`	`shai`	`murb, i'm watching a movie with the wife ... but i just wanted to let you know that i got the l2tp working :)`
`19:39.28`	`shai`	`i used this guide (israeli) http://l3ech.net/~l3ech/cables_linux_l2tp.php`
`19:39.40`	`shai`	`quiet cool indeed :)`
`19:40.01`	`shai`	`but i've got a long way to go i think until i get it working at a router with iptables and NAT`
`19:40.57`	`murb`	`shai: cool :-)`
`19:41.46`	`murb`	`shai: with the roaring penguin l2tp? or l2tpd?`
`19:45.49`	`mozrat`	`morsing: chinese?`
`19:45.54`	`morsing`	`mozrat: Yes`
`19:45.58`	`mozrat`	`Mmm`
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`19:48.28`	`cbz`	`evenink`
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`19:56.33`	`mozrat`	`me?`
`19:58.27`	`wethrin`	`Top Gear++`
`19:59.15`	`cbz`	`hi moz`
`19:59.15`	`morsing`	`Top Gear sucks`
`19:59.20`	`cbz`	`Hi aixman`
`19:59.22`	`wethrin`	`Doesn't!`
`19:59.32`	`morsing`	`aixman?`
`19:59.37`	`wethrin`	`bah`
`19:59.46`	`cbz`	`Does it still have Vicki henderson-butler on it ?`
`19:59.52`	`morsing`	`cbz: It never had`
`19:59.58`	`morsing`	`I don't think`
`19:59.58`	`wethrin`	`No. Hasn't had for a looong time, if it ever did`
`20:00.04`	`cbz`	`morsing: The original series did.`
`20:00.10`	`morsing`	`Mmm... Vicky`
`20:00.15`	`morsing`	`Nice`
`20:00.17`	`cbz`	`morsing: And then ITV nicked them all for Fifth Gear or something`
`20:00.24`	`morsing`	`I would have watched it then :)`
`20:00.25`	`wethrin`	`Channel 5 did`
`20:00.38`	`wethrin`	`And then the BBC revamped it`
`20:00.40`	`morsing`	`She's on Fifth Gear (which is much better)`
`20:00.40`	`cbz`	`<- Hasn't had a TV since 1992, and is relying on hearsay`
`20:00.56`	`wethrin`	`Meh. 5th gear is dull`
`20:01.01`	`morsing`	`cbz: Don't worry, I'll send you a photo of her :D`
`20:01.07`	`morsing`	`5th is superb`
`20:01.13`	`wethrin`	`pfff :-P`
`20:01.19`	`cbz`	`morsing: google images is my friend ;)`
`20:04.00`	`morsing`	`http://www.vb-h.net/links.htm`
`20:05.24`	`morsing`	`http://www.coasthigh.com/Assemblies/Chev/chev_496.htm`
`20:08.45`	`morsing`	`Woo`
`20:13.34`	`antiphase`	`I don't fancy the fuel bill`
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`20:28.19`	`morsing`	`jackds!`
`20:32.46`	`jackds`	`hi morsing`
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`20:42.48`	`morsing`	`ldnblk!`
`20:43.19`	`morsing`	`beer`
`20:43.24`	`wethrin`	`mmm beer`
`20:44.29`	`morsing`	`How's evil Dave?`
`20:46.53`	`ldnblk`	`hi there morsing how r things with u ?`
`20:47.34`	`ldnblk`	`hi there wetherin mozrat`
`20:47.54`	`wethrin`	`morsing: Haven't seen him for a bit`
`22:01.31`	`boudiccas`	`Quantum mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of.`
`22:01.44`	`cbz`	`Max Tegmark ;)`
`22:02.05`	`boudiccas`	`he said that did he? :)`
`22:03.03`	`cbz`	`No`
`22:03.16`	`cbz`	`But he says some pretty freaky stuff!`
`22:03.27`	`boudiccas`	`ah :)`
`22:03.50`	`cbz`	`See Quantum Suicide`
`22:04.30`	`cbz`	`Perhaps worth mentioning that he's into the the Multi Worlds interpretation`
`22:04.41`	`cbz`	`http://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/everett1.html`
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`22:54.28`	`shai`	`murb, i didn't know it was called "roaring penguin"... but yea, i used that plus l2tpd i guess...`
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