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01:40.22Georgehi
01:40.38JAVhi
01:41.01Georgehi
01:44.16JAVa bit late, isn't it?
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01:58.41Georgenah
06:59.12morsinghttp://www.nisa-todays.com/site/grocernewsstory.asp?articleno=10055
07:13.17mozratMorning
07:19.26morsingmozrat!
07:20.30morsingSome muppet on #solaris just pasted full debug output from ldd command
07:21.53mozratoh dear
07:22.04mozratdidn't something or someone kick him?
07:34.49morsingmozrat: No - Leeds wasn't there
07:37.52mozrat:-)
07:54.30morsingWhat does this mean:
07:54.44morsingscsi: [ID 107833 kern.warning] WARNING: /pci@8,600000
07:54.58morsingLine cut off but it's a tape device
07:55.03morsingShould I be concerned?
08:02.51mozratNFI
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09:14.06wethrinmorning
09:15.45mozrathi wethrin
09:16.50cbzhi moz
09:17.30mozrathello cbz
09:17.32mozratand shaibn
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09:19.15stephanb2yo
09:23.07mozrathi
09:32.03morsingwethrin!
09:38.53morsingA taxi was arranged for a S Goodwin on 15/4 at 19:30 ...
09:39.11morsingHas Steve been sending taxi invoices to Attenda?!?
09:43.16mozratmorsing: you missed the quiz last week. Steve Goodwins team won
10:07.39morsingmozrat: Is that why he sent a taxi bill to my company?
10:07.56morsingz00dax!
10:08.13z00daxmorsing: !
10:08.31wethrinAre you all going to the London.pm Heretics meet tomorrow?
10:08.46z00daxnot me no, i am going to Sandwich
10:08.50wethrinbah
10:09.08z00daxI am out golfing!
10:09.14morsingwethrin: Isn't it the monthly Volvo meet tomorrow?
10:09.18z00daxneed to find me yellow trousers and green shoes though
10:09.25wethrinmorsing: I don't know. I don't drive a Volvo
10:09.47z00daxin soviet russia, the volvo drives you
10:10.15z00daxhummm pie
10:13.04mozratI read that as "human pie"...
10:16.06mozratwho went a few years ago when it was organised?
10:16.23morsingmozrat: I did!
10:16.32morsingIt was fun, let's go again
10:16.33mozratmorsing: was it fun? Would you go again?
10:16.38mozratoh!
10:16.47mozratHow did you get there?
10:17.23mozratand did you guys picnic there as well?
10:18.05murbbefore mk demolish it
10:18.14mozratmurb: that would be tragic
10:18.16z00daxoohh... that place
10:18.39mozratz00dax: You've seen Kate Winslet in the film... now discover the real place with GLLUG
10:18.44murbmozrat: hey've been trying to use part of the site for development for years
10:18.51z00daxhactually, i never did go see the film
10:18.54mozratmurb: I didn't know that
10:18.56z00dax-h
10:19.08morsingmozrat: Drove and yes. Mmm... picnic
10:19.17wethrinIf you want to go to BP, it's useful to see when they have an interesting event on, and time the trip to coincide with that
10:24.11morsingWhat is the Perl libnet bundle?
10:25.08morsingHello?
10:25.38wethrinHELLO?
10:26.14morsingHow do I tell which Perl modules are installed?
10:26.27wethrinNo idea
10:26.30wethrinI don't use Perl
10:26.35morsingwethrin: rEALLY?
10:26.54wethrinYeah!
10:29.05z00daxall good people moved to Python
10:29.22z00daxand some of the really good people moved back to 'c'
10:32.05morsingHa! c
10:33.04mozratSo - the most interesting event in Bletchley is in late September
10:33.25mozratIs that a bit too late in the summer to organise a trip?
10:35.08z00daxmorsing: still here ?
10:35.13z00daxmorsing: try this : perl -MCPAN -e 'print CPAN::Shell->r '
10:35.40z00daxit will give you some idea about the release ver for each module it can find a release versino for, and then list the rest in one mass dump.
10:35.53z00daxbut then, i suppose we all know, that perl is fugly anyway
10:36.06morsingmozrat: As long as it's not the 23rd
10:36.07morsinghttp://www.santapod.co.uk/e_bmw.php
10:36.58morsingz00dax: Wow - is this going to 'do' stuff?
10:37.09z00daxmorsing: try it
10:37.26morsingz00dax: Can't. It's a production system
10:38.15z00daxmorsing: basically it will get cpan's shell going - and parse through each module it can find, print a local release and a cpan release ( so you know what modules might need updating )
10:38.24z00daxand then list all the modules it cant find a release number for.
10:38.41z00daxi use this to track perl-* updates for rpms' i build at centos.karan.org
10:38.52mozratmorsing: it is.. why? Does it conflict with the Volvo club meet? I'd hate to lose most of the GLLUG audience to them again
10:40.51morsingAre you ready for manual configuration? [yes] ^C
10:40.58morsingmozrat: See link
10:41.22z00daxmorsing: if you dont have cpan setup.... you are going to walk through that process once...
10:41.44morsingz00dax: Which means it is going to update/touch stuff
10:42.09z00daxsure, but only for the user - its not going to have rights to touch system stuff
10:42.14mozratmorsing: unfortunately there isn't a good event before then
10:42.46morsingmozrat: We could all go to my event instead then :)
10:43.47z00daxin our fords ?
10:43.57z00daxsure... we can then show the beamers some real cars!
10:49.14mozratI was a BMW owner for about 3 months
10:49.18mozratbought it off of eBay
10:49.21mozratfantastic car
10:49.36mozratthe engine seized in Plymouth on holiday with the family
10:49.36morsingmozrat: Really? How was it a fantastic car?
10:49.48morsingmozrat: But it was still fantastic?
10:49.53mozratJust a very old, very big, very fast car
10:49.55mozratI loved it
10:50.05morsingDo you want to buy mine?
10:50.18mozratmorsing: I'm not in the car buying market at the moment
10:50.22mozratmaybe next year I will be
10:50.30mozratI'm in the moving house market at the moment
10:50.43morsingmozrat: Do youu want to buy mine?
10:50.45z00daxi need to get into the buy-a-house market real soon now
10:50.53mozratmorsing: no ta
10:56.32mozratMmmm
10:56.52z00daxanyone got any interesting podcasts to subscribe to ?
10:57.07mozratz00dax: Clive Bull
10:58.10mozrathttp://podcast-audio.chrysalis.com/podcast.php?channel=bestofclive
10:58.30z00daxwhat s/w are you using to subscribe /
10:58.33mozrathttp://podcast-audio.chrysalis.com/podcast.php?channel=bestofiain << is ok but I find him a little OTT
10:58.46z00daxI use liferea for all my rss and its also got a auto-get-enclosurs thing
10:59.18z00daxbut it seems to not work for the bbc-radio1 podcast, works for about 5 others
11:21.33mozratThat was so "half an hour ago"
11:36.14stephanb2sorry dude, how can I say, I also have "work" to do ;-)
11:36.25mozratfor shame
11:53.48z00daxmozrat: you might be interested in he stratfor daily podcast
11:53.57z00daxthey come up with some really interesting stuff sometimes
11:54.28cbzHeh stratfor.
11:54.59cbzThey used to be good, before one of the founders got killed in a car crash. Leaving only the neo-con apologist one.
11:56.00z00daxi didnt know about that...
11:56.18z00daxwhen was this ?
11:59.27cbzIt was a few years ago, it predates 2003 because that's when i let my subscription lapse.
11:59.37cbzAt that point it was only Friedman running the show.
12:01.30cbzI think unfortunately they got too big and then of course their subscription numbers tended to triangulate them
12:02.14z00daxrecently, lots of their stuff seems US influenced and they tend to go with that line
12:02.26cbzyuh
12:02.28z00daxbut still do some really good stuff, worth skimming over anyway
12:03.26cbzThat was one of the reasons I dropped it - I used to read it pretty religiously - from the time it was free, and had the enterprise level access for a couple of years (via earlybird discount)
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12:12.52mozratwoooo angelchild
12:12.59mozrathow was the cake?
12:13.06angelchildcaketacular :)
12:13.20mozratcaketastic!
12:13.27angelchildbecause now i can forget the bits that weren't interesting
12:18.47z00daxGeorge: btw, do you think you'll have a nx replacement before they make nx client opensource anyway ?
12:19.24morsingCheck it!
12:19.39z00daxmorsing: its 2:19pm
12:19.57morsingMmm... Korean
12:22.51Georgez00dax: I reckon mine will be better :P
12:23.15Georgebesides, we don't know if nomachine will opensource their client
12:23.33z00daxthey are already giving people re-distro rights to it
12:23.42George?
12:24.02z00daxyou could not, till now - re-distribute their nx client, the users had to get it from nomachine's website
12:24.44Georgesausages
12:24.59Georgeredistribution rights doesn't mean they'll opensource it
12:28.17JAVgood afternoon
12:28.46mozratHello JAV
12:28.48Georgez00dax: look, quite frankly, I don't really care as Google are paying me $$$ for this :)
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12:30.57z00daxGeorge: no, i dont think they are going to opensource it
12:31.48Georgeheh
12:31.56GeorgeI don't know why to be honest
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12:44.50morsingHow can I restrict the hours that a user can login on Solaris
12:47.57morsingHello
12:49.16z00daxmorsing: upgrade to WinNT and then you can tick / click a few box's around
12:49.16Georgechloroform
12:49.17JAVwith a laxative in his drink
12:52.19morsingwethrin!
12:52.22morsingping wethrin
12:52.26morsingibot wake wethrin
12:52.28ibotwethrin: GOOD MORNING!!!
13:04.17stephanb2angelchild: wot is your next exam ?
13:05.04angelchildData Communications and Networks
13:05.19Georgedeath to angelchild
13:05.34angelchildsigh
13:05.57GeorgeI would do it myself, but she's too smelly
13:09.14cbzHeh, charming.
13:19.10stephanb2angelchild: i.e. computer networks, or would DVB-T be an appropriate subject for this exam ?
13:20.01angelchildDVB-T?
13:20.26cbzdigitial video broadcasting
13:20.42stephanb2angelchild: digital terrestrial TV
13:20.44angelchildcomputer networks - ethernet, IP, TCP, etc
13:21.09stephanb2angelchild: i see, 7 layer OSI model and stuff. none of the "telecoms" lot
13:21.20cbzurm
13:21.25angelchildwe've been specifically told to ignore the OSI model xD
13:21.47angelchildyeah, I did a comms course as in electronics and waves last year, didn't like it much
13:21.50angelchildfar too much trig
13:21.57stephanb2fair enough, i have never seen what use it is in parctice
13:22.05mozratangelchild: max size of an ethernet frame?
13:22.16angelchildmozrat: 1500 bytes
13:22.23stephanb2angelchild: trig in electronics? as in filter design??
13:22.35mozratShe's good!
13:22.36angelchildas in how you can encode signals and such
13:22.51mozrat( 1512 bytes including the preamble and checksum though )
13:23.07angelchildmozrat: which has the side effect of people being able to use size values > 1500 in the header to indicate protocol types and such
13:23.14angelchildah well :)
13:23.54stephanb2angelchild: oh AM, FM, PSK, QPSK, COFDM, etc
13:24.01stephanb2beautiful stuff
13:24.02angelchildstephanb2: aye
13:24.09angelchildI really don't like it :)
13:24.12angelchildit screwed with my head
13:24.23stephanb2you didnt have a good teacher
13:25.15stephanb2it's beautiful stuff. at the base of all this is Shannon's theorem, and it branches to cryptography, and the stuff alan turing was researching
13:25.21z00daxanyone ever built tomcat out of rpm's ?
13:25.29z00daxor anyone every built rpms for tomcat ?
13:26.16stephanb2unfortunately it's the kind of subject that can be obfuscated by excessive maths
13:27.00z00daxmaths... in tomcat rpm'ising ?
13:27.08z00daxstephanb2: exactly what are you smoking these days ?
13:27.32stephanb2z00dax: excessive boredom from my current occupation
13:27.41z00daxget a new job
13:27.46eyoreI want a regex that matches all urls with a path what is wrong with this: ^http://*/*$
13:27.55eyoreit's POSIX regex
13:29.28eyore^http://.*/.+$  seems better
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13:39.38eyoreapparently ^http://[^/]*/.+$ is "better"
13:39.43eyoreseems to produce the same list for me
13:40.01eyoreI quite like that quote about regex
13:40.16eyoreYou have a problem and you decide to use regex to solve it
13:40.20eyorenow you have two problems.
13:44.57eyorez00dax I use the jpackage rpms for tomcat
13:46.20antiphaseRegular expressions are da bomb
13:46.30GeorgeI ROCK
13:46.42Georgeit had to be said.
14:01.59z00daxeyore: looking at those....
14:02.55eyoreTo resolve dependancies you need to install the run java rpm and then at sun-java compat rpm
14:03.17z00daxeyore: we're going to reidstro sun's Java - so building with that
14:03.43eyoreI just installed the jpackage.repo file for yum
14:03.55eyorethat resolves most of it for you
14:04.00z00daxyes, but you will need to rebuild the nosrc.rpm
14:04.10eyorefor what?
14:04.13z00daxjava
14:04.25eyoreyou can just install the sun java rpm
14:04.35eyoreand then install the jpackage compat rpm
14:04.45z00daxwell the point of this exercise, is to not need users to do that
14:04.56eyorenot need users to do what?
14:05.00z00daxand just have it roll in with the other app pkgs
14:05.04z00daxinstall java from sun
14:05.19eyoreoh you want to bundle it all togethor
14:05.33z00daxno, not bundle it, but have it hosted in the same repo
14:05.58z00daxwho ever did sun's rpms for java would make a great lfs packager
14:06.05morsingHey!
14:06.16eyorewell you will either have to use jpackage or duplicate all the stuff i guess
14:06.36eyoresomone tried to package oracle don't know how far that got.
14:14.24haliOracle XE is available as an RPM .. Oracle even have a repo... not sure about jdeveloper
14:16.22z00daxeyore: working with the jpackage guys on this one
14:17.40eyorei find jpackage good
14:17.57eyorealthough i notice they switch in some non Sun implementations
14:18.03eyoreWhich i thought was a bit naughty
14:18.49eyoretook me ages to realise why email sending was borked and eventually my debugging showed up i wasn't actually using sun javamail at all but some GNU version with a major bug
14:19.07z00daxgcj ?
14:19.23z00daxits not there yet - but not far either, gcj + classpath is the future
14:21.07eyoredon't know if it was compiled
14:21.15eyorebut it was a GNU implementation of javamail
14:21.30eyorein theory i suppose that's fine
14:21.42eyorei just felt a bit like some jpackage developer did a sly one
14:21.54z00daxhali: were you there for the FilmLight talk ?
14:22.03eyoreisn't javamail part of the JDK anyway?
14:22.07haliz00dax: no, couldn't make it
14:22.12z00daxah. I was there...
14:22.24z00daxanyway, b nice to catch up if you do make one of the gllug meets
14:22.25eyorein which case installing the sun JVM you expect teh sun javamail
14:22.28eyoreyou also expect it to work
14:22.45haliyes, when is the next meeting?
14:22.58morsingz00dax?
14:23.49z00daxi cant make anything before the 24th anyway
14:23.58z00daxmorsing?
14:24.07eyoreany idea what would cause this to happen a lot when i try to rsync during a cron job:
14:24.08eyoreTemporary failure in name resolution
14:24.51z00daxbad dns
14:25.16eyorewhy does it only fail when i'm not looking at it?
14:25.23z00daxcause it knows
14:25.23eyoreeg, when it runs overnight
14:25.48eyoreperhaps i need to fit a web cam
14:58.25morsingz00dax: How do I time restrict users in Solaris
14:58.55z00daxmorsing: ask hali
15:08.18halimorsing: slay <username> in cron :)
15:08.46halino to be serious, there is a pam module.. but i can't remember its name now
15:12.54halior what what do you mean with "time restrict" how long they are logged in or when they are allowed to login?
15:14.08morsingThey can only login between 9-17
15:14.46haliok, then use that pam module... same as on linux..
15:14.56halii used it ages ago.. but i can't remember the darn name
15:28.20z00daxpam_time ?
15:46.28eyoreyou could just run a cronjob every 2 mins from 17-9 that kills all processes owned by that user :)
15:49.03mozratYou'll go blind
16:03.50morsinghali: What's Linux?
16:07.03eyoreA kernel often included in the GNU operating system? :)
16:08.42stephanb2argh windoze needs its daily reboot
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16:10.10cbzIt's an add on pam module
16:10.15cbzi.e not a standard one
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16:12.49stephanb2back
16:14.08mozratless than 23 hours and 58 minutes until the next reboot!!
16:16.31stephanb2mozrat: talking about my system ?
16:17.56mozratstephanb2: yes
16:18.02stephanb2in which case it's only a matter of time for after effects to swap so much that i better reboot
16:18.53mozratplease don't tell my boss. Thanks. Bye
16:19.04stephanb2sounds like a good decision considering the weather
16:19.32stephanb2a walk in the sun will make you happy, thus you'll sleep better and be more productive tomorrow
16:19.42stephanb2i think your boss could only approve of that
16:19.54stephanb2bye!
16:42.44stephanb2time to go home
16:43.21stephanb2cu guys l8r!
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17:07.50mozratfoo
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17:52.10morsingbar
17:52.59stephanb2foo
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18:49.20wethrinHello
18:52.03Georgehi
18:52.40wethrinGeorge!
18:56.11Georgewethrin: know much about magic cookies?
18:56.25wethrinNo, other they're normally from MIT
18:56.41Georgehrmm
18:56.43Georgesucks
18:57.56wethrinDoing evil things with X?
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18:58.58Georgewethrin: doing my summer of code project
19:06.25wethrinAhh
19:23.30Georgehow do you type an underscore in LaTeX without it thinking you're supposed to be in math mode?
19:24.19wethrin\_
19:25.01Georgedidn't work
19:25.17Georgehrmm, it does now
19:25.18Georgewtf
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19:55.40AndrewBlackwethrin - what did you want to say about IRSSI
19:55.57wethrinAndrewBlack: The multiwindow thing
19:56.23wethrin/set autocreate_windows on
19:57.27andrew<PROTECTED>
19:57.53andrewhmm - that wasnt quite what I meant
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20:00.27wethrinBetter?
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20:01.09boztuso how do you use this irssi thingie then?
20:01.23wethrinType, and words appear :)
20:01.42boztuI can see that :) as I'm also boudiccas
20:01.55andrewso how do i join a new channel
20:02.00wethrin/join #newchannel
20:02.15boztuhow do i monitor two channels at once? done that /join already
20:03.17wethrinIf you look on the status bar on the bottom, when something goes on in another channel, it'll appear as Active
20:03.21andrewok - that worked , but why did it send the /join to everyone
20:03.35wethrinYou put a space in
20:04.00andrewoh - so I did :-(
20:04.16boztuah, i see, alt-and channel number
20:04.27wethrinAhh, that's what you meant
20:04.28wethrinYeah
20:04.38boztulooks like its automatically joined me to #irssi too
20:04.54andrewcan I join another network, eg perl
20:05.08wethrinalt-A will cycle through active windows
20:05.11wethrinandrew: yes
20:05.16wethrin/connect irc.perl.org
20:05.27boztuah, yes ty
20:06.48andrewbut I seem to have lost lilypond channel
20:06.56wethrinIt'll be there somewhere
20:06.58boztubut i can't get irssi to wrk from eshell in emacs :(
20:07.09wethrinJust do it from a real shell :)
20:07.22andrewor from screen
20:07.39wethrinandrew: "/win list" will list your windows
20:07.46andrew/win/list
20:08.02boztu/win/list
20:08.07wethrin/win list
20:08.12GeorgeDEATH
20:08.20wethrinNot /win/list
20:08.20andrewthanatos
20:08.25Georgeindeed
20:08.27boztugeorge, the needle is stuck
20:08.29Georgesomeone's done classical greek
20:08.42andrewsomeones other half did greek
20:08.50boztuthat was a game on the old speccy wasn't it?
20:09.08Georgedeath
20:09.21boztumortis
20:09.27Georgeer
20:09.30Georgemortus
20:09.44boztubbiam
20:11.10andrewmors mortis  f (3rd declension)
20:11.27Georgeyeah, that should have been mortuus
20:11.37Georgefor mortuus est
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20:11.45Georgemortis is still a genitive :P
20:12.21stephanb2omg there is a Latin lesson going on !
20:14.52boztuthats style for you :)
20:15.12andrewit started off in greek but george seems to have lowered the tone.
20:15.20stephanb2hmm
20:15.48andrewperhaps we should go to Perl and see if lathos is around?
20:17.47boztui've got two horizontal dark blue bars in my irssi. is it possible to change the dar-blue to a lighter colour?
20:17.53boztu*dark
20:23.18wethrinPossibly.
20:23.22wethrinProbably, in fact
20:24.43boztunow looking at the user docs :)
20:26.11boudiccasboztu?
20:26.43boztutalk about a split personality! :))))
20:28.15morsingMmm... blue
20:28.44morsingCheck it!
20:28.52boztuhow? :)
20:30.28morsingbeer
20:34.46boztuyou know, i might get addicted to this irssi. it seems rather nice :)
20:38.47wethrinIt grows on you
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21:06.52boztuits quiet tonight! :)
21:07.25wethrinIt is
21:07.45boztugives me chance to play with irssi :)
21:09.25mozratEvening
21:09.30mozratwho is boztu AKA?
21:09.41boztuits me
21:09.46boztuaka?
21:09.52mozratalso known as
21:10.03boztuaka boudiccas
21:10.05mozratahh
21:10.13mozrathello b*
21:10.16boztui'm just learning/playing with irssi
21:10.30mozrati loves irssi
21:11.01mozratboudiccas: get a freeshell account and run irssi inside screen for all eternity
21:11.18mozratyou could get hit by a bus tomorrow AND YOU'LL STILL BE ALIVE ON IRC
21:11.21boudiccasis it possible to change the dark blue horizontal bars to a more neutral colour which i can read easier?
21:11.33boudiccasfreeshell? whats that?
21:12.12wethrinboudiccas: Probably. RTF docs :)
21:12.18mozrathave a look at silencisdefeat.org
21:12.21mozrat+e
21:13.12GeorgeDEATH
21:14.11mozratboudiccas: http://silenceisdefeat.org < one time payment of $5 and you get a lifetime account on a unix server where you can run screen, irssi etc
21:14.16mozrata bit of webspace
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21:22.41boudiccasmozrat: i would sign up if only paypal would recognise my card!
21:23.27boudiccasit keeps saying 'This credit card is already registered in your PayPal account.'
21:23.37mozratbummer
21:25.25George...
21:25.26GeorgeDEATH
21:25.28GeorgeTO
21:25.30GeorgeANGELCHILD
21:25.41boudiccasoh grow up george! :)
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21:35.18stephanb2poor George needs to have a big crisis, dress as a Goth or something...
21:35.27stephanb2or listen to Lamb of God
21:39.28andrewboudiccas: I had that (paypal).  I think it is caused by having used the same card with a previous
21:39.50andrewexpiry date.  
21:42.22boudiccasandrew: is there any way round it then please?
21:43.52boudiccasi've tried to pay via paypal using firefox and also konqueror, and i still can't do it :(
21:46.12boudiccasah well, i'm off to bed. night all
21:46.18mozratnn boudiccas
21:47.23boudiccasnn
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22:21.31Georgeyay
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23:06.08George?
23:12.56z00daxits been killed by the author
23:21.48iTron"Now we will be focusing our efforts on a new Asterisk distribution."
23:21.57iTron"Asterisk@Home was just the beginning of the road. Get ready for trixbox.
23:22.24iTronSo, yes, it's ended, but they're developing a new distro.
23:22.35iTronAnd now for sleep();

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