irclog2html for #gllug on 20060618

00:18.24TimMagichey
00:18.29TimMagicanyone still awake?
00:19.19TimMagicit would seem not
00:21.46TimMagicrhowe: i feel sorry for your feet - why are they sore?
00:25.05GeorgeYES
00:25.06GeorgeI AM HERE
00:25.19TimMagichey george
00:25.23TimMagichows it going?
00:25.55Georgefine
00:26.16TimMagicgood stuff
00:26.22TimMagicyou had a nice day?
00:28.45TimMagic?
00:41.34TimMagichmm george isnt here again
00:41.48TimMagicso i will take my leave
00:42.07TimMagicand in doing so will overtake morsing again
00:42.14TimMagicnight night xxx
00:45.27Georgewhat?
00:45.44TimMagicwhat what?
00:45.50George'xxx'
00:46.22ErwinI saw "Sunday in the Park with George" tonight BTW. An old one (premeriede in 84 on Broadway) but more intriguing than most of the musicals you'll find in the WE
00:46.58Georgemooooooooooooooooo
00:49.39TimMagicwas just showin a bit of love to the channel
00:52.57z00daxman the a205 sux, eevn at 2:00am'ish
00:54.17TimMagicthe whole driving thing in london is crappy on a sturday
00:54.29TimMagics/sturday/saturday/
00:54.41z00daxyeah, and the situation that I am in at this time means i drive to ealing and back every saturday
00:54.50TimMagicok
00:54.55TimMagicalways at this time?
00:55.02z00daxusually starting out at 10pm from home
00:55.13z00daxyeah, only go there to touch the place, 5 min stop and then back again
00:55.36TimMagicwhy?
00:57.32z00daxI do some data processing stuff for someone, and a cd with the weeks data needs to be dropped off with $pilot, who flies it out to Australia every Sunday morning
00:58.05z00daxits something I'd rather not do - but i agreed' for the work about 2 years back, and for the amount of money involved - i cant even farm it out
00:59.44Georgez00dax: moo
00:59.47z00daxangelchild: nite
00:59.56z00daxcoconuts ?
00:59.59z00daxGeorge:
01:01.15George?
01:01.26z00daxhello
01:01.54TimMagichmm ok
01:02.00TimMagici am really goging now
01:02.06TimMagicits 0203
01:02.14z00daxTimMagic: nite
01:02.15TimMagics/goging/going/
01:02.18TimMagicnn
01:22.43Georgez00dax: still up?
01:23.35z00daxGeorge: ya
01:23.44z00daxplaying with mod_rewrite
01:25.01Georgelol
01:25.10Georgebbiab
01:25.17Georgetime for king of the hill
02:21.47z00daxhttp://www.hetzner.de/rootserver.html
02:21.51z00daxinteresting prices...
03:15.19morsingLeeds!
03:15.41z00daxmorsing: !
03:15.50z00daxwhat are you doing up this early ?#
03:15.52morsingz00dax!
03:16.20morsingz00dax: Have to be up north before 8
03:20.00z00daxhumm ... ah well
03:20.03z00daxget going then
03:27.34morsing:)
03:28.42morsingAnd why are you up?
03:34.04z00daxhavent slept as yet
03:34.07z00daxi should soon
03:38.15Leedsmorning all!
03:40.17LeedsI got bitten on my feet last night...
04:31.25eye69Morning
04:34.23Leedseye69: good afternoon
04:35.12eye69It's actually morning, and I'm off to work in a bit.
04:35.35eye69In fact, "in a bit" means "now". Toodiloo.
06:06.20morsingeye69!
06:06.53morsingeye69: You got a job then?
06:07.55morsing'morning Leeds
06:08.08morsingme is at Rutland Water
06:12.05morsingHello?
06:13.50Leedsyes
06:17.02morsingWhy are you ignoring me?
06:20.14morsingLeeds?
06:21.03Leedsnot ignoring you... trying to ignore Griselda, playing a little guitar...
06:23.03Leedsand now, going in the shower
06:39.28morsingMmm... shower
06:44.21Leedsshe's a strange girl is our Gricelda
08:09.23TimMagicmorning averybody!
08:10.12TimMagics/averybody/everybody/
08:24.09TimMagicanybody here?
08:39.42TimMagichmm it would seem not
08:46.15murbnot this early on a sunday!
08:48.26TimMagicwell i am up
08:48.54TimMagicwhich is a good excuse for other people to be
09:05.34murbnah it is a good excuse for others to sleep in.
09:06.29TimMagicok
09:06.32TimMagicfair enough
09:06.39TimMagicnobody loves me :-(
09:12.25TimMagicim off to a wedding
09:12.37TimMagiclaters everybody (or just murb)
09:14.07murbhehe
09:14.11murbi'm off to a barn
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09:26.03mozratTimMagic is getting married?
09:52.20mozratmorning z00dax
09:52.29mozratyou need to start sleeping regular hours
09:53.34z00daxmozrat: yes, i know :(
09:53.54z00daxI would have slept right through the morning, but my neighbour's DIY project got in the way
09:54.23mozratthat sucks
10:08.30mozratwoo - my IRC bot connects to IRC!
10:08.45mozrat( kind of a prerequisite for an IRC bot I guess )
10:09.21z00daxwhat bot is it ?
10:10.18mozratmozbot
10:10.27mozratan exercie in writing terrible code
10:10.40mozrats/exercie/exercise/
10:10.50mozratusing irclib.py
10:12.56wethrinmorning
10:13.45mozrathey wethrin
10:37.23z00daxmozrat: i remember something called kibot that was .py based and used irclib too...
10:37.46z00daxfor a long time, i thought about adopting that and making it do some nice things.... but never got around really
10:38.01Erwinthere are plenty of such things around, there's also supybot which I think is the most advanced one
10:39.33mozratI'm just doing to pass some time....
10:39.42mozratdoing it to pass some time.. rather
10:40.48mozratI quite fancied the idea of a bot that would monitor RSS feeds and then message me when new articles were published
10:44.59Leedsmozrat: advice: design it such that it could do the notification on IM, by email, SMS, etc.
10:45.23Leedsbecause that's what the bot I started writing was going to do :-)
10:45.26z00daxplugin'ise it
10:46.03mozratthat would be version 2 then
10:46.19z00daxand re-write it in rexx :)
10:46.26mozrat:)
10:46.48mozratwhat is ibot written in?
10:46.52mozratibot hello
10:46.52ibotque tal
10:46.58z00daxperl i'd think
10:47.18mozratshe is a good bot
10:48.35z00daxibot is a 'she' ?
10:48.48mozraterr, yeah
10:48.51mozratof course
10:49.17mozratibot sing
10:49.18ibot"Night fever, night fever. You know how to do it!"
10:49.19z00daxwe should send an inspection party around to make sure
10:49.25mozratibot drink beer
10:49.27ibotI don't want to drink beer
10:49.36mozratproof enough?
10:49.45z00daxyup. point taken
10:49.45Leedshe's written in perl
10:50.12mozratplus ibot has a great memory
10:51.44mozratoh, happy fathers day to those of you who have kids
10:51.50mozratSky One just reminded me
10:53.20wethrinReminded you you have kids?
10:53.24wethrinOr that it's fathers day?
10:53.40Leedsor that ibot has a great memory
10:55.23mozratall three
10:55.50Leedsfor no particular reason, I've almost finished a Black Books marathon
11:01.40mozratSky One is playing back-to-back Simpsons all day
11:01.54mozratand, by God, does my leg hurt today
11:02.17z00daxwhats up with your leg ?
11:02.24mozratsciatica
11:02.29z00daxmaybe you should get out into the countryside for a nice long walk
11:02.34z00daxthat should get your leg sorted :)
11:02.45mozrathttp://beerandspeech.org/index.php?/archives/215-Sciatica.html
11:03.03mozratwalking does help actually - I should really go and warm it up a bit
11:08.45Georgemozrat: do you use midpssh?
11:09.13mozratno
11:09.24mozratmobileSSH from idorokko
11:09.28mozrator something
11:09.31Georgeuseless
11:09.52mozrathttp://www.idokorro.com/products/ssh-downloadtrial.shtml
11:09.59mozratwhats useless?
11:43.06mozratnamely Dr Pepper
11:44.06Georgefatty
12:16.38Leedsokay, doctor who is downloading, time for pizza
12:33.51mozratGrrr, 4 cashs machines in separate petrol stations out of order
12:34.03mozratmaybe there is a network problem, but f**king annoying
12:34.47z00daxmozrat: its a sign from god
12:34.57z00daxhe wants you to think about saving
12:35.48Georgelol
12:35.50Georgegod doesn't exist
12:36.09mozratz00dax: I think God was saying "start carrying more cash"
12:36.19mozratGeorge: "impeach god"  ?
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12:42.22z00daxangelchild: !
12:42.52angelchildz00dax! :)
12:43.19Georgeoh damn is she back?
12:43.35z00daxi didnt know she was gone ?
12:43.43angelchildI even apologised to him :o
12:44.03z00daxfor what ?
12:44.09Georgez00dax: ?
12:44.20z00daxGeorge:  ?
12:44.21angelchildfor being somewhat bitchy
12:44.38z00daxangelchild: i think thats what threw him, he's not used to people apologising
12:45.11angelchildwell, I was a bit vicious
12:45.23mozratGeorge: Infamy, Infamy they've all got it in for me
12:45.25angelchildit's not like he's ever been particularly nice to me anyway O_o
12:45.30Georgemozrat: :)
12:45.30angelchildah well
12:45.44Leedsmm... pizza
12:46.12mozratHi angelchild!!!
12:46.12angelchildhrmn
12:46.17angelchildwonder if there's any football on
12:46.23angelchildHI MOZRAT!!!
12:46.27mozratangelchild: yes - Oz vs Brazil at 5
12:46.41mozratshould be good - either Brazil will play better which would be good
12:46.52mozrator Oz will beat Brazil which would be... wowsres
12:47.01mozrator - it could be 0-0
12:47.57Leedsfootball on the beach last night - much fun, and very mellow
12:48.42angelchildit'd be fun if australia won :D
12:51.53mozratangelchild: it would be fantastic
12:58.20wethrinFoo
12:59.03angelchildBar
13:05.44Georgebar
13:06.00angelchild...
13:10.11Erwinquux follows bar
13:10.44ErwinHmm, no, it's baz.
13:12.13wethrinfoo bar baz {quuz | bat }
13:12.16wethrin*quux
13:12.30Georgewethrin: I thought it went qux quux quuux quuuux etc?
13:12.40wethrincan do
13:14.58mozratweirdos
13:18.18wethrinLike the Simpsons?
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13:30.50shaibnping Leeds
13:33.26wethrinDon't drive and IRC!
13:41.34morsingxmoo
13:42.01Leedsuh, pong
13:42.46wethrinyou all smell of poo and wee!
13:42.46morsingLeeds!
13:42.53morsingnice
13:43.11wethrinAylesbury?
13:43.27morsingRUTLAND LAKE
13:43.33morsingwow
13:45.41wethrinRight. I need some advice about organising photos - should I just have a large number of directories hanging off my /photos subdirectory, or should I organise by year?
13:51.45gregjhow do you call part of students council, that deals with "foregin" affairs at the uni
13:52.17wethrinInternational Students Association?\
13:52.21z00daxwethrin: by year I'd say
13:52.29wethrinOkay
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13:53.01gregjwethrin: hmm, I don't know
13:53.16gregjwethrin: there are few students doing that at every single uni
13:53.38gregjI don't know if the proper word would be council or should it be something else
13:53.54gregjby foregin I don't mean international
13:53.58wethrinAye
13:54.37gregjrepresentative of foregin affairs council  , or something ? but I don't know how to say that it doesn't deal with matters that are international, but more with stuff that's inter-universities
14:01.08wethrinNUS representative?
14:02.39gregjwhat is NUS ?
14:02.57wethrinNational Union of Students
14:03.15Leedsnaturally useless students
14:03.17gregjnope
14:03.41gregjat the uni there is student or two that are there to talk to other unis about different things
14:06.23gregjcouncil of external affairs ?
14:06.33gregjdamn,..
14:06.40gregjdoes it sound right ?
14:08.02wethrinDon't think we have one
14:08.08wethrin(we = Durham)
14:08.22gregjExternal Relations Council ?
14:08.28gregjhow about this one ?
14:08.39gregj(is trying to make something up that would describe it)
14:08.52wethrinThat could work
14:10.09gregjwhat's the difference between "affaris" and "relations" ?
14:11.57gregjI know it is silly, but I would love to hear some deeper explanation
14:13.07Leedswell, relations are the connections and interfaces between two 'things' - organisations, people, institutions, countries, etc.
14:13.39Leedsaffairs is really what one of my teachers called a 'weasel word' - it doesn't really mean anything, in this context, other than 'stuff which happens'
14:16.51gregjokay, thanks :)
14:43.29Leedsthe beach visible right in the middle of http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=169596381&size=o is where I watched part of the Italy/USA match last night...
14:48.16boudiccasLeeds; really! I thought it was held in Germany!
15:01.18mozrathi gregj boudiccas
15:04.13Leedsha ha h
15:14.15Georgemonkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
15:16.00JAVhello!
15:18.43Leedsin the desert, you can't remember your name, 'coz there ain't no one for to give you no shame
15:19.12ErwinWhat would you see if you saw a tortoise?
15:21.19Leedswhat is the sound of one hand slapping?
15:49.03Leedshttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/06/asia_pac_high_density_living_in_hong_kong/html/1.stm
15:49.51Leedsmozrat: so, apart from being enjoyable, how did that sound?
15:53.11mozratlike the sounds of a table tennis bat slapping a cows ass
15:53.33mozratra ra - go Australia
15:53.53Leedsnot a chance... and I should go to bed
15:54.03mozratno - stay and watch it
15:54.41Leedsnot sure if I can watch it... I watched the last match on the updated-every-two-minutes text commentary on the BBC site... I might have to turn my TV on
15:55.06mozratheh - the cameraman panned along the Brazilian team and managed to just show the top of the scalp of a very short player
15:55.19mozrathe'll be pissed if he watches the replay tonight
16:38.20rhowe_Has anyone here had much experience with Sangoma's S518 ADSL card?
16:53.35Leedswell, that was a pointless 45 minutes to stay up to watch... channel 12, for reference
17:06.56Georgemozrat: ?
17:11.32mozratyep?
17:16.29George16:46:40  * mozrat slaps George with one hand
17:17.06GeorgeRUDE BASTARD
17:18.26Georgecripes, I've downloaded 27MB on UMTS today
18:00.25eye69G'd afternoon
18:07.17morsingeye69!
18:15.29eye69morsing: Hey
18:16.41eye69morsing: Yep, I have. I work as a forklift driver at a local book bindery. I worked extra at DHL Solutions picking orders at their Volvo, Hyundai and Renault warehouse today though.
18:17.02eye69And now I must be off. Going for some thai food.
18:29.14murbeye69: good hightech work? in the physical internet?
18:49.46morsingmozrat: Tell George he's an idoit
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19:05.56sabinef72evening all
19:16.14mozratbon soir!
19:16.26sabinef72one word : bonsoir
19:16.48sabinef72how are you mozrat ?
19:16.53mozratgood thanks
19:16.57mozratand yourself?
19:17.05sabinef72pretty well
19:17.17sabinef72just back from a week-end weddings
19:17.47mozratooh nice
19:18.37morsingsabinef72!
19:18.46sabinef72hiiiiiii morsing
19:18.53morsingsabinef72: The up weekend wedding?
19:19.24sabinef72hooo shit ... I just know how to use "up" for the next week end but not for THIS week end
19:19.52sabinef72so the week-end up now is weddings
19:20.03sabinef72the week end up soon is ... the parade... hum hum
19:20.13mozratmorsing: stop teasing sabinef72
19:20.22sabinef72who is teasing ? me ?
19:20.27mozratno, morsing
19:20.35mozrat20:18 < morsing> sabinef72: The up weekend wedding?
19:20.41mozrathe is making less sense than usual
19:21.01sabinef72:-)
19:21.23mozratI up think up he up is up inserting up the up work up up in up silly up places up!
19:21.26sabinef72but you know if it's good teasing I'm ok
19:21.37morsing:-)
19:21.43sabinef72up up
19:22.18morsingmozrat: I *am* going to the carnival on Saturday so can't make you meeting :(
19:23.15sabinef72mozrat: perhaps you should buy an agenda to morsing with the date of the next parade
19:24.03mozratmorsing: no, no
19:24.22mozratsabinef72: I could give him a years notice and he would still find a reason not to go
19:24.27sabinef72mozrat: did you buy the book ?
19:24.27morsingmozrat: No no what?
19:24.35mozratmorsing: you haven't been to *any* of the meetings I've organised :(
19:24.37morsingmozrat: :(
19:24.45mozratsabinef72: no :(
19:24.45morsingmozrat: I know :(
19:24.53morsingI will make an effort
19:25.03sabinef72mozrat: ohhhhh !!!!!!
19:25.44mozratsabinef72: yesterday was my mothers birthday
19:25.51mozratI didn't get to go into the town
19:26.02mozratmorsing: nevermind :)
19:26.07mozrattake some photos of the parade
19:26.14morsingWill do
19:26.22sabinef72mozrat: ok so that was a good reason. I can understand
19:26.36mozratsabinef72: but I go to work past some bookshops - maybe tomorrow
19:26.43mozratmorsing: why??
19:26.49morsingWhy what?
19:27.00mozratwhy are you getting up up at 0400?
19:27.09morsingThe annual BKV was today at Rutland Waters
19:27.22sabinef72ohhh yes ! one again ! to get UP
19:27.28sabinef72and to woke UP
19:27.38morsingBest Kept Volvo (I didn't win even though my class only had 5 cars :( )
19:27.41mozrat(wake - present, woke past tense)
19:27.55mozratmorsing: unlucky - so where are you now?
19:27.59sabinef72oh yes stupid mistake. to wake up
19:28.00morsingmozrat: At home
19:28.14mozratso why are you getting up up at 0400??
19:28.27morsingmozrat: huh? I got up this morning at 4am
19:28.35morsingWhich is why I am tired!
19:28.38mozratohhh, I misunderstood
19:28.41mozratSorry
19:28.51sabinef72that's funny because ... I went to bed at 0400
19:28.58morsingG'night
19:29.01morsingG'night sabinef72
19:29.24mozratsabinef72: doesn't count. Different timezones
19:29.45sabinef72night night morsing
19:29.56sabinef72timezones ?
19:30.12mozratsabinef72: your 0400 in Paris was only 0300 here in London
19:30.17mozratso it doesn't count
19:32.09sabinef72oh yes we changed the hour for summer
19:32.48mozratibot sabinef72 is an hour ahead
19:32.50ibotokay, mozrat
19:32.54mozratibot sabinef72
19:32.55ibotextra, extra, read all about it, sabinef72 is an hour ahead
19:33.03sabinef72héééééééééé
19:33.16mozratibot sabinef72 is also a lady in the future
19:33.17ibotmozrat: okay
19:33.20mozratibot sabinef72
19:33.21ibot[sabinef72] an hour ahead, or a lady in the future
19:33.32sabinef72funny
19:34.03Georgehi mozrat
19:34.09mozrathey George
19:34.23sabinef72good evening George
19:34.37Georgewho's sabinef72 ?
19:35.10sabinef72what do you want to know George ?
19:35.10mozratIt's a good question
19:35.32sabinef72first of all, I'm a french woman without a fluent english but I try my best
19:35.38mozratgah - irclib.py is drivin me crazy
19:39.11Georgesabinef72: how are you associated with gllug?
19:39.45sabinef72well, mozrat invited me last week
19:39.56haligeorge: isn't the community open to everyone?
19:40.17sabinef72George: Is it a problem ? perhaps I'm not welcome here ?
19:41.09mozratGeorge: shut up
19:41.40sabinef72no no if I'm disturbing someone you must tell me
19:42.22mozratsabinef72: George is permanently disturbed
19:48.01Georgemozrat: ?
19:48.11GeorgeI am just inquisitive...
19:48.57mozratyou sounded aggressive
19:49.31sabinef72yep
19:50.19mozratsabinef72: george is lovely
19:51.44sabinef72George: if you want to know more about me, just ask. It seems you are lovely, so I'll answer to you
19:52.22mozratsabinef72: he really is. deep deep deep down
19:52.42Georgewhat??
20:18.41sabinef72George: and about computer, I'm using linux of course, a nice debian and a lovely kde
20:55.22Georgekde..
20:56.37mozratz00dax: I owe you a fiver
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21:34.29mozratwoooooooooooooooooooooo- angelchild
21:40.36mozratyay - double huggles
21:40.55mozratmy IRC bot is going to be awesome and sexy and funky and cool
21:41.17angelchild:D
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22:28.44TimMagicevening everybody
22:28.48TimMagichows it going?
22:31.47mozratallo - good thanks
22:31.51wethrinNae bad
22:32.20TimMagicsplendid
22:32.30TimMagicyou been up to much?
22:32.37mozratwriting terrible code
22:36.12Georgelol code
22:36.12Georgelol/win 45
22:36.31mozratyou have far too many IRC windows
22:36.56Georgewhy?
22:36.56mozratif you have to type /win 45
22:36.56mozratthats too many
22:36.56wethrinMine got up to 70
22:37.03Georgemine's been up to 90 before
22:37.09Georgein fact, I normally get up to about 70 or 80 :(
22:37.32mozratGeorge: most of those aren't on Freenode then?
22:37.43mozratyou are only showing as being in #gllug
22:37.57Georgemozrat: on about 21 channels on freenode
22:38.04wethrinIt doesn't always show channels tunless you're both on them.
22:38.06mozratyou are +i
22:38.10wethrinDepends on the channel status, I think
22:38.20Georgewethrin: no, usermode
22:38.22mozratah ok
22:38.26wethrinoh, okay
22:41.11TimMagici am in 1 channel
22:41.23TimMagicmozrat:what terrible code have you been writing?
22:42.04mozratTimMagic: nothing interesting
22:42.08mozrattime for sleep - nn
22:42.18Georgemoo
22:44.13wethrinHrm. I need a couple of new keycaps for my powerbook
22:45.20TimMagicnn
22:45.35TimMagicgeorge - i am worried at how much you moo at me
22:45.50TimMagichave you developed vCJD?
22:46.56wethrinHey says DEATH too much too
22:47.33GeorgeDEATH
22:47.37TimMagictrue
22:47.38wethrinsee
22:47.42TimMagicsee!!!
22:47.44GeorgeDEATH
22:53.39TimMagicso cliche george
22:53.48GeorgeDEATH
22:54.07TimMagicagain - cliche
22:55.35Georgego away, I'm learning for my exam
22:56.28wethrinWhy're you on IRC, then?
22:56.49GeorgeI'm always on irc
22:57.28wethrinbog off
23:00.02George64 bytes from newslb12.thdo.bbc.co.uk (212.58.226.29): icmp_seq=7 ttl=49 time=208 ms
23:00.06George64 bytes from newslb12.thdo.bbc.co.uk (212.58.226.29): icmp_seq=8 ttl=49 time=184 ms
23:00.09George64 bytes from newslb12.thdo.bbc.co.uk (212.58.226.29): icmp_seq=9 ttl=49 time=179 ms
23:00.12Georgenot too bad for UMTS
23:06.15JAVhello!
23:06.30GeorgeI FUCKING HATE STATISTICS
23:06.40cpufreakdon't do them then.
23:06.48Georgecpufreak: I have S3 tomorrow
23:07.02cpufreakdon't turn up
23:07.08cpufreakgo to the pub instead
23:07.16cpufreakor do something you like doing instead
23:07.55George...
23:08.03GeorgeI have exams to pass to get into a university better than wethrin's
23:08.31cpufreakyou'll end up happier that way, and without wishing to sound like a newage hippy person, if you're doing something you like doing, and are happy, you'll be on a better path to success.
23:08.45cpufreakwhy do you need to get into a better uni than wethrins?
23:08.47Georgerofl
23:08.49Georgeweirdo
23:08.54GeorgeI don't want to be successful
23:09.00GeorgeI want to stay at university for the rest of my life
23:09.29cpufreaksuccess is many things. its not just about having a flash car, and a house in chelsea and so on.
23:09.52GeorgeI'm getting a car this year apparently :D
23:10.09wethrinOh glods
23:10.12cpufreakits about being good at something, and being happy about it.
23:10.14cpufreakoh, what car?
23:10.16wethrinWe're all not safe!
23:10.27GeorgeVolvo S40
23:10.35cpufreaknew model, or old one?
23:10.36wethrinmorsing would be proud
23:10.38Georgeold
23:10.53Georgecpufreak: the decent one, before Ford got their grubby paws on it
23:10.55wethrinWill you go along to Volvo Owners Club meetings?
23:11.03cpufreakshame, new one has the same chassis as the mondeo and handles really well
23:11.04Georgeno
23:11.10cpufreakold one is still a nice car though
23:11.31GeorgeI still want a delorean
23:11.37cpufreakam ashamed to say its a BMW..
23:11.41cpufreakm3 csl
23:11.56GeorgeI want anything with gull wing doors
23:12.05cpufreaklol
23:12.12wethrinI wouldn't trust George's driving
23:12.18GeorgeI don't hav ea licence
23:12.28cpufreakarse, I think I just chipped a tooth
23:12.37wethrinWhy would you get a car, then?
23:12.51cpufreakchaffeur
23:12.52Georgeupon obtaining a licence
23:12.54cpufreakoh
23:13.07Georgevolvo++
23:13.14Georgemy father has an S60
23:13.22z00daxGeorge: get an RS6
23:13.28GeorgeXC90
23:13.36z00daxno... an Audi RS6
23:13.41ErwinVolvo -- "Boxy but good"
23:13.43Georgenah, a Volvo XC90
23:13.58cpufreakI nearly replaced my S4 with a new RS4,
23:14.08cpufreakbut the problem with the quick audis, is they weigh loads
23:14.10cpufreaknot good on track :/
23:14.25z00daxcpufreak: humm interesting point
23:14.29z00daxcpufreak: get an S8 then,
23:14.31cpufreakthe CSL is ~300kg lighter than the RS4
23:14.36cpufreakS8 is a barge
23:14.40z00daxmight not be very track worthy
23:14.48z00daxbut get around the m25 real quick
23:14.54z00daxhow about the Hemi then ?
23:15.15cpufreakmate took one to the nurburgring 2 years ago, as his track car was lacking an engine, and its brakes weren't up to the job
23:15.57cpufreakI dislike american car's attitudes to corners. :)
23:16.00Georgewho cares about cars
23:16.10Georgethe only reason to get a car is to transport computers around
23:16.10cpufreakI do
23:16.15TimMagicwho cares about S3?
23:16.23GeorgeTimMagic: I don't
23:16.27wethrinGeorge: Then you want a Transit van, or similar
23:16.34wethrinrhowe!
23:16.37Georgewethrin: will you buy me one?
23:16.38rhoweheya Dan
23:16.39TimMagicso stop doing it then
23:16.44z00daxTimMagic: the S3 seems a bit of a waste, i prefer some of the A3's to that
23:16.45GeorgeTimMagic: ...
23:16.46wethrinWhy were you working on a Sunday?
23:16.48cpufreakbollox it is, the adrenaline rush you get when driving on track beats any narcotic.
23:16.49wethrinGeorge: No
23:16.51z00daxor maybe a Civic R-Type
23:16.55Georgewethrin: you suck then
23:16.57z00daxrhowe: !
23:17.00wethrinA pick-up truck may work well too
23:17.10rhowewethrin: Because we didn't finish on Saturday
23:17.13rhoweheya KB
23:17.14TimMagicyeah - pick ups are great for running people down
23:17.26cpufreakold car: http://badger.ing.me.uk/andy_nurburg.jpg new car: http://badger.ing.me.uk/CSL/1.html
23:17.40z00daxwethrin: a Ford F150 ?
23:17.43wethrinrhowe: Pah! You're not working hard enough!
23:18.06rhowewethrin: Yeah, we should've finished on Friday night, but we decided to slack off around 2330h
23:18.07z00daxyeah, BMW's i dont care for at all
23:18.24cpufreakz00dax: as I said I'm ashamed to own a BMW
23:18.30z00daxTimMagic: interesting point, didnt think of it that way
23:18.36TimMagicwhy own one then?
23:18.41rhowewethrin: We moved the entire server room on Friday evening, and then spent the weekend setting it up in the new office and rejigging all the VPN tunnels
23:18.51wethrinrhowe: Ahhh....office moves
23:18.52rhowewethrin: Not to mention getting the ADSL link up and the firewall rules done, etc
23:18.55wethrinHeh
23:18.56cpufreakbecause the CSL is a bit different...
23:19.19TimMagicz00dax: always look at the worst case scenario - if it still looks good then, get one
23:19.19rhowewethrin: Yeah, hours and hours of fun
23:19.23wethrin:)
23:19.39cpufreakI prefered it to the 911s I test drove
23:19.41rhowewethrin: Still, the Sangoma S518 seems to work pretty well.
23:19.51wethrinDSL router?
23:19.56z00daxrhowe: the sandoma S518 ?
23:20.01z00daxthe one that costs £19.50 ?
23:20.06rhowewethrin: Yes, it requires a binary chunk, which is evil, but it works pretty nicely
23:20.07z00daxyou'r using that at work ?
23:20.16rhowez00dax: No, the one that costs £82
23:20.17wethrinahh
23:20.45rhowewethrin: It's a PCI card
23:21.04z00daxrhowe: url ?
23:21.10cpufreakanyway sleep
23:21.17TimMagicnn cpufreak
23:21.22cpufreak1 week left of $current_job \o/
23:21.23TimMagicsleep easy
23:21.27z00daxI thought it was the s518 i saw the other day, and it was quite definitely £19.50
23:21.28rhowez00dax: Search google UK for it and you should get Jason's store
23:21.54rhowez00dax: It wasn't the Bewan or the Conexant one?
23:21.55z00daxthe connextant one is about $5.50
23:22.00z00daxand only does ADSL
23:22.01wethrinrhowe: So you get the OS to do all the PPPoE stuff?
23:22.05rhowez00dax: http://www.linuxadsl.co.uk/
23:22.09z00daxthe s518 iirc, does adsl2 / 2+ as well
23:22.10rhowewethrin: PPPoA, yeah
23:22.19rhowez00dax: Maybe
23:22.41wethrinrhowe: Er, yeah. Sorry. I've seen things that do the ATM<->Ethernet frobnitz
23:22.45rhowez00dax: The S518 used to be about £130, was a full height 64bit PCI card, but it's now a half height 32bit one
23:23.03rhowewethrin: PPPoE is nasty and fugly (although I do use it at home)
23:23.11wethrinIsn't 64-bit PCI excessive for a DSL router?
23:23.14rhowewethrin: At least, for ADSL it's nasty and fugly
23:23.37rhowewethrin: Well, it's designed for installing into server-type kit, and the 64bit card worked just fine in a 32bit slot
23:23.41wethrinOne that works with OpenBSD
23:24.05wethrinYeah, but it seems like it's extra manufacturing costs
23:24.16z00daxrhowe: i must be mistaken ...
23:24.18rhowewethrin: The S518 works in some BSDs, probably OpenBSD (although Theo wouldn't like the binary chunk one bit)
23:24.27z00daxand the s518 does not do adsl2
23:24.30rhowez00dax: £82 is the cheapest I've seen it for
23:24.35wethrinmmm
23:25.50rhowe<PROTECTED>
23:25.51rhowe<PROTECTED>
23:25.59rhoweIs that good?
23:26.05rhowe<PROTECTED>
23:26.38z00daxyes, thats good
23:27.17murbrhowe: whic direction?
23:28.06rhowemurb: Well, that's from an ADSL card on a firewall, which is taking to the telephone exchange
23:28.21rhowemurb: Maybe "local" is one direction and "remote" is another? Not sure about the attenuation
23:29.02rhowehm.. adslguide.org.uk is talking about 43dB attenuation being BT's limit for 2Mbps service
23:29.07rhoweSo I guess 23 isn't bad :)
23:30.28TimMagicyou are all talking big words too close to bed time
23:30.32murbLINE ATTN (dB):            45.1                30.0 hmm
23:30.34TimMagicso im gonna off myslef to bed
23:30.47murbDATA RATE (kbps):          4512                448
23:30.52rhowemurb: That's from a box in a building next to the gherkin
23:31.23TimMagics/myslef/myself/
23:31.25rhowe<PROTECTED>
23:31.25rhowe<PROTECTED>
23:31.44rhoweibot change 30000 jpy to gbp
23:32.28z00daxrhowe: so whats so good about this s518 card ?
23:32.39rhowez00dax: blinkenlights
23:32.45murbz00dax: the binary only drivers
23:32.51murbthe tainted kernel
23:32.51murbthe crashes
23:33.03z00daxmurb: i can see how that might be a good thing
23:33.12z00daxa sysadmin needs to ensure his employability
23:33.20rhowe<PROTECTED>
23:33.20rhowe<PROTECTED>
23:33.20rhowe<PROTECTED>
23:34.08rhowemurb: So far, it's been OK, but it's only been running a day or so
23:34.20rhowemurb: Currently, our whole company is depending on it (!)
23:34.34TimMagicoff to bed
23:34.40TimMagicgoodnight al
23:34.41TimMagicl
23:34.46rhowe'night Tim
23:34.52z00daxTimMagic: nn
23:35.10rhoweheh, I can get a dump of the raw ATM packets on the DSL link
23:35.10z00daxrhowe: pci adsl-modems++
23:35.21z00daxthats till the phone line gets a lightning hit
23:35.27rhowez00dax: heh, indeed
23:35.40z00daxand the computer + switch feeding off it and a bunch of other things connected to the switch roast
23:35.56rhowez00dax: I think the lightning is more likely to hit the gherkin next door :)
23:36.03rhowez00dax: Might be close enough to do damage, though
23:36.17rhowe<PROTECTED>
23:36.55z00daxrhowe:  Alcatel most likely
23:39.11rhowemm, watermelon
23:59.11Georgemoo

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