irclog2html for #gllug on 20060704

`00:00.16`	`Leeds`	`uh... got fired a month ago, currently working out 3 months notice, doing minimal work - essentially, only responding (questions, bugs, little features, etc.), doing nothing of my own initiative`
`00:00.44`	`PalmMagic`	`seems fair if u were fired`
`00:01.13`	`PalmMagic`	`you stayin out there?`
`00:01.34`	`Leeds`	`most people here, seem to be rather surprised that they are expecting me to go into the office every day, considering...`
`00:02.12`	`PalmMagic`	`why the long notice?`
`00:02.13`	`Leeds`	`current plan is to head back to the UK when I'm done, for 5/6 weeks or so, sort out stuff there, see the family, do the Jewish hols at the end of September, then come back to a new job`
`00:02.30`	`PalmMagic`	`ok kool`
`00:02.49`	`Leeds`	`partly because it's an expat position, partly because it's nominally a management position`
`00:03.20`	`PalmMagic`	`is hannukkah early this year? :-}`
`00:03.35`	`PalmMagic`	`i see`
`00:04.34`	`Leeds`	`no, chanukah is at a pretty normal time - finishes on the 23rd`
`00:05.08`	`Leeds`	`it was very late last year - finished on 2/1!`
`00:05.26`	`PalmMagic`	`hehe i know! it was a {failed} attempt at humour`
`00:06.25`	`PalmMagic`	`ooh its 1am - i should sleep`
`00:06.52`	`PalmMagic`	`speak to you in your evening and my morning`
`00:07.10`	`PalmMagic`	`hope u feel better soon`
`00:07.12`	`PalmMagic`	`nn`
`00:07.39`	`Leeds`	`cheers - g'night`
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`06:44.44`	`morsing`	`'morning`
`06:44.49`	`morsing`	`other_mozrat!`
`06:46.01`	`other_mozrat`	`other_morsing!`
`06:48.33`	`George`	`win 32`
`06:49.21`	`other_mozrat`	`haha - George loves Windows`
`06:50.09`	`George`	`oh shut up ou silly little man`
`06:50.09`	`morsing`	`haha - other_mozrat loves George`
`06:50.35`	`George`	`oh shut up you idiot`
`06:51.16`	`George`	`gerroff`
`06:54.34`	`George`	`:'(*`
`06:54.54`	`George`	`checking email over gprs in a van on the way to the rifle range sucks`
`06:54.54`	`George`	`lol`
`06:55.05`	`other_mozrat`	`Hmmm, me is going to Canary Wharf this morning and I'm not quite sure where the building is`
`06:55.12`	`other_mozrat`	`and its a bit of a rat run around there`
`06:55.45`	`George`	`lol`
`06:55.58`	`George`	`were you never taught navigation in the ARMY!?!?!`
`06:56.52`	`other_mozrat`	`Hmm`
`06:57.03`	`other_mozrat`	`OK - I'm going to have to find it when I get there`
`06:57.08`	`other_mozrat`	`Bye folks`
`06:57.23`	`George`	`now the real question is... why is your hostmask on bt?`
`06:59.10`	`George`	`:'(`
`07:14.28`	`morsing`	`mozrat: You available on the 25th?`
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`07:19.02`	`JAV`	`good morning`
`07:19.27`	`sabinef72`	`good morning all`
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`07:31.39`	`morsing`	`sabinef72: You coming for birthday drinks on the 25th?`
`07:31.43`	`morsing`	`cup!`
`07:32.02`	`sabinef72`	`morsing: is it your birthday today ?`
`07:41.37`	`morsing`	`25th`
`07:45.14`	`morsing`	`mozrat: Cool :)`
`07:46.16`	`Cope`	`hello`
`07:47.04`	`morsing`	`Cope: First day on Monday?`
`07:48.30`	`cup`	`morning people`
`07:48.43`	`sabinef72`	`hi cup`
`07:51.02`	`rhowe`	`http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/img_0302-cow.jpg`
`07:55.01`	`morsing`	`Cope: Coming for birthday drinks?`
`07:57.40`	`morsing`	`ping Cope`
`08:00.19`	`Cope`	`ello`
`08:00.26`	`Cope`	`morsing: mon is indeed my 1st day`
`08:00.47`	`Cope`	`morsing: bday drinks? when/where?`
`08:01.09`	`morsing`	`Cope: 25th. London area somewhere`
`08:01.27`	`Cope`	`:(`
`08:03.16`	`rhowe`	`morsing: 25th July?`
`08:03.24`	`morsing`	`Cope: Why not :(`
`08:03.27`	`morsing`	`rhowe: You coming?`
`08:03.36`	`rhowe`	`morsing: If I'm in London, sure`
`08:03.40`	`morsing`	`rhowe: :)`
`08:03.49`	`Cope`	`morsing: because travel into london will no longer be "free"`
`08:04.05`	`morsing`	`:(`
`08:04.17`	`rhowe`	`morsing: I'm 24 on the 28th`
`08:04.21`	`morsing`	`Cope: Would a free drink helpo`
`08:04.22`	`morsing`	`?`
`08:04.32`	`morsing`	`rhowe: You're not that old :-D`
`08:04.59`	`Cope`	`not really - getting into town on a week night for a sensible time, and getting back again in time for sensible bed makes it unworkable really`
`08:05.06`	`morsing`	`:(`
`08:05.26`	`rhowe`	`We should do a gllug beach festival on the south coast`
`08:09.19`	`morsing`	`rhowe: Ha ha`
`08:09.41`	`Leeds`	`Cope: oh really? :-)`
`08:09.59`	`Leeds`	`also, hello all`
`08:10.39`	`sabinef72`	`coucou Leeds`
`08:11.51`	`Leeds`	`what is coucou, anyway?`
`08:15.31`	`Leeds`	`back in a moment`
`08:16.53`	`sabinef72`	`coucou is another kind of "hi"`
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`08:18.28`	`Leeds`	`hmm, no... quite apart from the fact that it's not drawing my cursor, window moving is nasty and slow...`
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`08:22.12`	`Leeds`	`still playing with my X setup...`
`09:00.53`	`z00dax`	`$TZ Greetings!`
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`09:08.40`	`TimMagic`	`morning folks`
`09:08.46`	`z00dax`	`hey TimMagic`
`09:09.06`	`TimMagic`	`hows it going z00dax?`
`09:09.16`	`z00dax`	`warm!`
`09:09.37`	`TimMagic`	`yup`
`09:09.42`	`TimMagic`	`you at work?`
`09:09.47`	`z00dax`	`nope`
`09:10.01`	`z00dax`	`where I am working now, most people dont land up at work till 2:00pm`
`09:10.14`	`TimMagic`	`fair enough!`
`09:10.22`	`TimMagic`	`and finish by 3.30?`
`09:10.27`	`z00dax`	`:))`
`09:10.43`	`z00dax`	`after a 1 hr lunch break :)`
`09:25.07`	`Leeds`	`now that`
`09:25.48`	`Leeds`	`that's just silly... got a call from a friend looking for a cinema - actually, a particular cinema chain - in Hong Kong. She'd been googling for 'hong kong cinema' and not found it. The answer is 'cinema.com.hk'`
`09:26.28`	`Leeds`	`relying on Google over dns is just dumb`
`09:29.29`	`Leeds`	`and then she calls back because she's closed the window and can't remember the address!`
`09:29.35`	`TimMagic`	`z00dax: sounds good!`
`09:29.45`	`TimMagic`	`leeds: gotta love google!`
`09:30.01`	`z00dax`	`Leeds: :)`
`09:30.23`	`Leeds`	`it's just... brainless!`
`09:30.24`	`morsing`	`Leeds: My new manager has developed applications for the Treo :)`
`09:30.59`	`Leeds`	`okay, the other major chain is cityline.com.hk - I could understand that that doesn't immediately come to mind... but is cinema.com.hk really hard to guess or remember???`
`09:31.06`	`morsing`	`Sur`
`09:31.07`	`morsing`	`e`
`09:31.11`	`Leeds`	`morsing: I've never written anything for the Treo, but I have for PalmOS...`
`09:31.55`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Cool`
`09:32.20`	`morsing`	`What's the Linux command to show shared memory segments?`
`09:35.53`	`Leeds`	`no idea, but I'd look in /proc or /sys rather than looking for a command`
`09:39.58`	`keithlard_`	`it's like that dilbert where dogbert tells the pointy haired boss "It's amazing! You'd actually have to be smarter, to do something stupid!"`
`09:42.04`	`wethrin`	`hello`
`09:42.50`	`Leeds`	`evening wethrin`
`09:47.26`	`TimMagic`	`ibot change 1066.07 usd to gbp`
`09:47.32`	`morsing`	`wethrin1`
`09:47.44`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Coming for b'day drinks?`
`09:47.49`	`wethrin`	`morsing: When?`
`09:47.52`	`wethrin`	`Your birthday?`
`09:48.22`	`Leeds`	`y'all are invited to my birthday drinks, on a junk, Saturday night 5/8`
`09:49.00`	`wethrin`	`Hmm. I'll be in Beaconsfield then`
`09:49.59`	`Leeds`	`we'll supply transport from Causeway Bay and/or Aberdeen, you need to get to Hong Kong yourself`
`09:51.27`	`wethrin`	`I presume you don't mean the nice convenient Aberdeen that's only a few hours away from Durham?`
`09:52.01`	`Leeds`	`no... I mean the Aberdeen which is a marina and fishing town on the south side of Hong Kong island`
`09:52.51`	`wethrin`	`Hmm. I'll join you for a virtual drink :)`
`09:53.24`	`morsing`	`wethrin: 25th`
`09:53.26`	`Leeds`	`http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/07/03/Software-Value is interesting`
`09:53.39`	`wethrin`	`morsing: Of this month?`
`09:54.19`	`morsing`	`Yes`
`09:54.33`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Please?`
`09:55.19`	`wethrin`	`It's mid-week, which I definitely am not able to do, unfortunately :(`
`09:55.37`	`wethrin`	`However, I'll be back this weekend, and the first few days in August`
`09:56.14`	`keithlard_`	`aah, cope, i've been expecting you`
`09:57.12`	`Leeds`	`woohoo - my connection has gone fast and reliable... time to overload it! :-)`
`10:02.39`	`Leeds`	`oh, lord, they're going to be drunk on the train at 9am`
`10:04.37`	`wethrin`	`oh dear`
`10:09.08`	`keithlard_`	`it is just blank on mine :(`
`10:09.19`	`keithlard_`	`i think the software gl drivers are broken`
`10:09.39`	`Leeds`	`as I was saying yesterday, since I dropped my depth down to 16bit, I have decent opengl now with the r300 driver`
`10:10.09`	`keithlard_`	`it works fine on my work box, with a geforce 300 and the nv driver`
`10:10.20`	`keithlard_`	`except it occasionally crashes and kills X for no reason :)`
`10:10.31`	`keithlard_`	`for linux that is within the acceptable definition of 'works fine'`
`10:11.04`	`Leeds`	`if/when I vanish, you'll know my X died :-)`
`10:11.45`	`keithlard_`	`:D`
`10:15.12`	`Leeds`	`ah, there's the beach I was on a couple of weeks ago...`
`10:15.25`	`keithlard_`	`woo!`
`10:16.01`	`Leeds`	`22°14'22.17"N 113°58'38.82"E`
`10:18.32`	`TimMagic`	`wouldnt it be great if you could integrate google earth with your sat nav`
`10:18.46`	`TimMagic`	`so you could see where you are, what is near etc etc`
`10:18.56`	`Leeds`	`I thought you could, with the paid version`
`10:19.04`	`TimMagic`	`oh`
`10:19.05`	`TimMagic`	`ok`
`10:19.14`	`Leeds`	`but I could, of course, be wrong`
`10:19.48`	`Leeds`	`nope, I'm not: there's a menu option for it, which pops up a box saying "Ths feature is only available to subscribers of Google Earth Plus"`
`10:20.32`	`keithlard_`	`wizzo`
`10:20.36`	`keithlard_`	`i want that on my bike`
`10:20.52`	`Leeds`	`I'm going to make a leap and say it's not available on Linux`
`10:22.05`	`keithlard_`	`frown`
`10:22.22`	`keithlard_`	`i'll just mount my tomtom on the bike then. you can get a little mount for it!`
`10:22.37`	`Leeds`	`sure, and that (probably?) runs Linux too`
`10:23.27`	`keithlard_`	`it definitely does`
`10:23.40`	`Leeds`	`wasn't sure if all their devices did or only some`
`10:23.51`	`keithlard_`	`it's the coolest little linux box you ever did see`
`10:23.57`	`keithlard_`	`with a touch screen! :D`
`10:23.59`	`murb`	`i was told in promarkt that non of them had linux`
`10:24.06`	`Leeds`	`dude. I've got TiVo`
`10:25.08`	`keithlard_`	`it's smaller than tivo!`
`10:25.42`	`Leeds`	`yeah, but TiVo is so very very cool...`
`10:32.15`	`Leeds`	`Theory: there is no longer such a thing as a career - instead, there is a series of jobs`
`10:33.26`	`murb`	`and we also live in a class less society..`
`10:35.00`	`Leeds`	`I certainly don't...`
`11:05.32`	`TimMagic`	`leeds: that may make me want to buy it`
`11:05.53`	`TimMagic`	`id also like a bike mounted sat nav`
`11:09.12`	`morsing`	`Help`
`11:09.29`	`morsing`	`vmstat shows "w" constantly as 2`
`11:09.43`	`morsing`	`But no processes are in the "W" state?`
`11:09.51`	`morsing`	`Load is a constant 2 as well`
`11:09.57`	`morsing`	`What to look for?`
`11:10.41`	`morsing`	`What's dev8-0??`
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`11:19.10`	`morsing`	`HELP!`
`11:19.13`	`morsing`	`other_mozrat?`
`11:20.12`	`other_mozrat`	`How can I be of assistance?`
`11:20.47`	`morsing`	`other_mozrat??`
`11:20.47`	`morsing`	`other_mozrat: How do I find two processes constantlly waiting for I/O?`
`11:21.21`	`other_mozrat`	`ummm`
`11:21.37`	`other_mozrat`	`is there a column in top ?`
`11:21.42`	`morsing`	`No`
`11:22.46`	`morsing`	`:(`
`11:23.37`	`morsing`	`Linux sucks!`
`11:27.32`	`morsing`	`What's status D for a process`
`11:29.08`	`morsing`	`What's the "basp_worker" process for?!`
`11:32.22`	`antiphase`	`man top`
`11:32.42`	`morsing`	`antiphase: Huh?!`
`11:33.09`	`morsing`	`ANyway, basp_worker is the ethernet load balancer`
`11:33.11`	`Leeds`	`status D means 'blocked on IO'`
`11:33.19`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Yup, got that`
`11:33.43`	`Leeds`	`in fact, it usually (always?) means 'blocked in the kernel on I/O' - so not responding to signals`
`11:34.00`	`antiphase`	`man ps` says "D Uninterruptible sleep (usually IO)"
`11:34.33`	`keithlard`	`timmagic> you can get the tomtom rider specially for bikes :)`
`11:36.56`	`morsing`	`Ok, apparently the basp_worker process is supposed to be stuck in I/O wa1676it constantly. Brilliant design`
`11:38.08`	`cpufreak`	`we'd a similar thing at my old job`
`11:38.24`	`cpufreak`	`where an application would sit in semaphore wait`
`11:38.45`	`cpufreak`	`well each thread would`
`11:38.49`	`antiphase`	`aen@liono:~ $ uptime`
`11:38.49`	`antiphase`	`12:38PM up 70 days, 13:18, 1 user, load averages: 26.72, 17.49, 13.98`
`11:38.53`	`morsing`	`cpufreak: Well, this is a part os the RedHat O/S package. Not a seperate application`
`11:38.53`	`cpufreak`	`screwed the monitoring somewhat`
`11:38.58`	`cpufreak`	`yeh thats the one ant :)`
`11:39.50`	`antiphase`	`Red Hat are crazy fools. Ethernet load balancing sounds like they overdid the crack`
`11:40.31`	`cpufreak`	`we use etherchannel stuff here`
`11:40.49`	`cpufreak`	`have some big netapp with two gig cards bonded`
`11:41.02`	`cpufreak`	`doing 1.98Gbit/sec outbound pretty muhc constantly`
`11:41.38`	`cpufreak`	`need faster network`
`11:41.41`	`cpufreak`	`:p`
`11:42.19`	`morsing`	`antiphase: Overdid the crack?`
`11:42.42`	`morsing`	`antiphase: All proper unix systems can do ethernet load balancing`
`11:42.54`	`morsing`	`Or backup`
`11:43.53`	`murb`	`morsing: and so can linux :-)`
`11:44.09`	`morsing`	`murb: Yes, if you accept the high I/O wait`
`12:08.39`	`Leeds`	`cpufreak: 10gbit?`
`12:08.57`	`cpufreak`	`we use 10gig in places yeh`
`12:09.15`	`Leeds`	`what are you doing with it, anyway?`
`12:09.29`	`cpufreak`	`we have some busy servers :)`
`12:09.31`	`cpufreak`	`and databases`
`12:17.31`	`keithlard`	`mozrat rules`
`12:18.43`	`other_mozrat`	`yay for mozrat`
`12:27.22`	`other_mozrat`	`keithlard: any word from T-Shirt lady?`
`12:28.23`	`keithlard`	`i'm about to get the details sent through!`
`12:29.08`	`other_mozrat`	`awesome!`
`12:32.32`	`keithlard`	`not rude at all!`
`12:33.04`	`keithlard`	`you should give her a lovely bun`
`12:33.11`	`Leeds`	`why?`
`12:33.20`	`keithlard`	`she is your sister!`
`12:33.35`	`Leeds`	`but she is wrong!`
`12:35.30`	`keithlard`	`well next time you are wrong about something, you might get a bun :)`
`12:35.34`	`morsing`	`Check it!`
`12:35.42`	`keithlard`	`it is an unusual phillersophy, but i find it works for me`
`12:38.23`	`other_mozrat`	`keithlard: is your IRC nick directly taken from Phoenix Nights or did you have another meaning from it?`
`12:38.39`	`other_mozrat`	`I very nearly called you Keith when I met you the other weekend`
`12:39.38`	`keithlard`	`yes it is from phoenix nights :)`
`12:39.57`	`morsing`	`other_mozrat: As opposed to "Lard"?`
`12:39.57`	`keithlard`	`i do not mind being called keith, as long as it's in context eg 'keith, would you like a pint of lager?'`
`12:40.43`	`other_mozrat`	`but not in the context of "Keith, would you stop molesting my cocker spaniel"?`
`12:41.35`	`other_mozrat`	`keithlard: do you have the Phoenix Nights DVD when they said there was a real life fire inspector in Bolton called Keith Lard and they had to pay him some damages after airing the episode on TV?`
`12:42.03`	`keithlard`	`hahahahaha`
`12:42.07`	`keithlard`	`no i heard about that`
`12:42.08`	`morsing`	`What are the chances?`
`12:42.17`	`morsing`	`Play lotto!`
`12:42.35`	`other_mozrat`	`morsing: well - Seeing as Peter Kay is from Bolton and probably did the comedy circuit around there before becoming famous I think it is more than a coincidence`
`12:43.35`	`keithlard`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keithlard :)`
`12:43.46`	`other_mozrat`	`Keith Lard (Kay) - An overly cautious local fire safety inspector who, it is alleged, interferes with dogs. The character appears to have been based on Bolton fire inspector Keith Laird, though both Kay and Channel 4 have been forced to deny this and publicly apologise.`
`12:43.53`	`other_mozrat`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Peter_Kay_Thing`
`12:44.18`	`other_mozrat`	`# "burn baby burn.. disco inferno"`
`12:54.54`	`morsing`	`other_mozrat: Peter Kay?`
`12:55.04`	`other_mozrat`	`morsing: yes`
`12:55.22`	`morsing`	`Who?!`
`12:55.35`	`other_mozrat`	`morsing: you haven't heard of Peter Kay?? You MUST have`
`12:58.56`	`morsing`	`Never`
`12:59.16`	`other_mozrat`	`Who is the bloke who does the funny adverts for John Smith Bitter`
`13:00.39`	`boudiccas`	`other_mozrat; Jack Dee? Who never smiles and is completely dead-pan`
`13:00.54`	`other_mozrat`	`not you too boudiccas`
`13:00.57`	`other_mozrat`	`PETER KAY...`
`13:01.06`	`boudiccas`	`who's he?`
`13:01.35`	`other_mozrat`	`http://youtube.com/results?search=peter+kay&search_type=search_videos&search=Search`
`13:01.39`	`boudiccas`	`my excuse is I don't have a tv and haven't watched on for almost 4 years now`
`13:01.49`	`boudiccas`	`and i don't miss it`
`13:02.36`	`other_mozrat`	`Well - there is a lot of crap on TV admittedly. But Peter Kay is very funny!`
`13:03.30`	`boudiccas`	`Maybe so. :) I've missed some good things no doubt, but I've also missed a lot of dross too. Overall I prefer being without a tv :)`
`13:03.47`	`Leeds`	`http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bq1zwId9Gk4&search=amarillo%20peter%20kay#`
`13:04.18`	`boudiccas`	`give me more time for my computer, reading, studying, music, knitting, lace making, cross-stitch, etc :)`
`13:04.25`	`other_mozrat`	`keithlard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJPybQ7Ebjs << classic`
`13:06.13`	`boudiccas`	`being in a wheelchair is hard work!`
`13:07.38`	`boudiccas`	`http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/30/sco_ibm_claims/`
`13:08.03`	`Leeds`	`wait, SCO are claiming that being in a wheelchair is hard work?`
`13:08.19`	`boudiccas`	`:)`
`13:09.14`	`other_mozrat`	`unlucky SCO`
`13:11.45`	`other_mozrat`	`OK - Let me say this briefly so not to contaminate the results.`
`13:12.00`	`other_mozrat`	`Everyone click this link and read the description. Which member of #gllug does it best describe`
`13:12.03`	`other_mozrat`	`http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/acne.htm`
`13:12.57`	`boudiccas`	`lol - he's off with the army atm`
`13:13.21`	`boudiccas`	`other_mozrat; do i win?`
`13:13.39`	`other_mozrat`	`boudiccas: wait for any other answers to come in first :-)`
`13:20.21`	`Leeds`	`now that's interesting`
`13:21.24`	`Leeds`	`got this Hong Kong -> London flight booked for a couple of weeks from now, which I'm not going to use - when I booked it in December, I had to give a date, and it's a non-changable sale fare - in other circumstances, I might have used it, but it's not going to happen now`
`13:22.12`	`Leeds`	`saw a comment online that if you formally cancel the unused portion of a flight, you can claim the tax back - the stuff they add on after they give you the price... it comes to over 150 quid!`
`13:24.19`	`other_mozrat`	`nice`
`13:24.33`	`other_mozrat`	`Leeds, what is "the plan" now for you?`
`13:26.17`	`morsing`	`Check it!`
`13:27.39`	`Leeds`	`short plan is to do as little as possible at the office until 25/8, then head back to the UK for 6 weeks or so, then come back to Hong Kong and start a new job`
`13:27.42`	`other_mozrat`	`what do you think this mean....`
`13:27.44`	`other_mozrat`	`sm@cmt02smorris01:~> ssh mozrat@silenceisdefeat.org`
`13:27.45`	`other_mozrat`	`Received disconnect from 66.111.62.170: 2: fork failed: Resource temporarily unavailable`
`13:27.54`	`Leeds`	`I don't have a new job yet, and I don't have anywhere to sleep after the 25th`
`13:28.14`	`other_mozrat`	`eek`
`13:28.26`	`other_mozrat`	`have you started looking for jobs there yet?`
`13:28.33`	`Leeds`	`I think it means that the other machine is so overloaded, one way or another, that it couldn't fork an sshd child, or a bash, or whatever`
`13:28.54`	`Leeds`	`I've done some nosing around, thrown together a crappy draft CV - not done much formally... really should have done`
`13:28.56`	`other_mozrat`	`I think they limit the number of concurrent users and I am out of luck today :(`
`13:30.48`	`Leeds`	`makes sense`
`13:34.09`	`Leeds`	`hmm... Second Life doesn't seem to want to run in 16bit - maybe that's why I was in 24bit`
`13:35.14`	`boudiccas`	`Leeds; document it!`
`13:36.43`	`Leeds`	`it's not exactly hidden: (flood)`
`13:36.45`	`Leeds`	`2006-07-04T13:32:18Z INFO: createContext: creating window 800x600x32`
`13:36.46`	`Leeds`	`2006-07-04T13:32:18Z INFO: createContext: window creation failure. SDL: Couldn't find matching GLX visual`
`13:36.46`	`Leeds`	`2006-07-04T13:32:18Z INFO: Unloading all GL symbols...`
`13:36.46`	`Leeds`	`2006-07-04T13:32:18Z WARNING: OSMessageBox: Window creation error`
`13:36.46`	`Leeds`	`2006-07-04T13:32:18Z INFO: Unloading all GL symbols...`
`13:36.46`	`Leeds`	`2006-07-04T13:32:18Z WARNING: LLWindowManager::create() : Error creating window.`
`13:36.48`	`Leeds`	`2006-07-04T13:32:18Z WARNING: Unable to create window, be sure screen is set at 32-bit color in Control Panels->Display->Settings`
`13:53.21`	`keithlard`	`pwned :(`
`13:58.14`	`*** join/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk)`
`13:58.28`	`cbz`	`~change 59.95 euros to pounds`
`13:58.49`	`cbz`	`~change E59.95 to sterling`
`13:58.56`	`cbz`	`hrm`
`13:58.58`	`wethrin`	`EUR`
`13:59.02`	`wethrin`	`that's what you want`
`13:59.19`	`cbz`	`~change EUR 59.95 to sterling`
`14:00.04`	`TimMagic`	`ibot change 59.95 eur to gbp`
`14:00.13`	`cbz`	`ta`
`14:00.15`	`TimMagic`	`np`
`14:02.37`	`wethrin`	`cbz: You need to use the currency code, not name`
`14:02.43`	`Leeds`	`cbz: 3-letter currency codes - generally, 2-letter country code plus one-letter currency name`
`14:04.11`	`TimMagic`	`xe.com is the site ibot uses (i think) so the codes are listed there`
`14:04.28`	`Leeds`	`hmm... costs about half as much to do business class Hong Kong->London on Finnair, changing in helsinki, than doing direct on BA, Virgin or Cathay`
`14:04.49`	`cbz`	`and you get the finnish hotje stewardesses`
`14:04.54`	`TimMagic`	`ooh`
`14:05.00`	`TimMagic`	`dont fly business class...`
`14:05.11`	`Leeds`	`TimMagic: why not?`
`14:05.21`	`Leeds`	`cbz: that's true... but Cathay...`
`14:05.22`	`cbz`	`Wandering around looking slinky and svelte and cool`
`14:05.23`	`TimMagic`	`its horrifically expensive`
`14:05.42`	`Leeds`	`so?`
`14:05.53`	`TimMagic`	`i just dont see the point`
`14:06.03`	`Leeds`	`ibot change 20440 hkd to gbp`
`14:06.05`	`Leeds`	`I do`
`14:06.11`	`TimMagic`	`it takes the same amount of time`
`14:06.20`	`TimMagic`	`the views are the same`
`14:06.26`	`cbz`	`You end up at the other end feeling more human - sometimes this is a good thing`
`14:06.43`	`Leeds`	`now, if I stopped over in Helsinki for a day... just on principle, because I've never been to Finland and it seems a waste not to`
`14:07.04`	`cbz`	`Leeds: TBF these days as Finnair is part of oneworld, you have a fair chance that the stewardesses are all munters from BA`
`14:07.04`	`TimMagic`	`you still get food and drink that is a) minimalistic and b) tatses bad`
`14:07.20`	`Leeds`	`TimMagic: not necessarily`
`14:07.26`	`TimMagic`	`if u can visit finland do`
`14:08.02`	`TimMagic`	`mind you i have never not slept all through a long haul flight so...`
`14:08.51`	`Leeds`	`my normal plan is to book and pay for Premium Economy on Virgin - about twice the cost of Economy - then upgrade to Upper Class on miles`
`14:09.08`	`TimMagic`	`in fact on the way back from america last time, someone poked me and, without opening my eyes, i said "no i don't want a drink"`
`14:09.19`	`TimMagic`	`the reply was "sir, we have landed!"`
`14:09.40`	`morsing`	`Beer`
`14:09.53`	`TimMagic`	`i havent got into this miles thing yet`
`14:09.58`	`TimMagic`	`could be tempted though`
`14:10.07`	`Leeds`	`I get about 20k miles from the trip, return upgrade costs 40k miles, so total net cost is 20k miles`
`14:10.19`	`Leeds`	`I have a little over 100k in the bank`
`14:10.44`	`TimMagic`	`cool`
`14:10.54`	`TimMagic`	`i signed up to airmiles but havent used it yet`
`14:11.08`	`TimMagic`	`and im a bmi diamond memeber but havent flown yet`
`14:11.23`	`Leeds`	`how are you a diamond member if you haven't flown?`
`14:12.20`	`TimMagic`	`i have signed up but havent taken any of the flights i have booked yet`
`14:12.38`	`Cope`	`keithlard* hello`
`14:12.46`	`Cope`	`that's a relief`
`14:12.46`	`other_mozrat`	`Leeds: helsinki ROCKS by the way`
`14:12.54`	`other_mozrat`	`been there twice - had a fantastic time each time`
`14:13.00`	`Leeds`	`oh, wait... is diamond the name of the program, or a membership level within the program?`
`14:13.16`	`TimMagic`	`yeah the name`
`14:13.23`	`TimMagic`	`sorry - wasnt explicit then!`
`14:13.37`	`TimMagic`	`am a blue member atm`
`14:13.48`	`TimMagic`	`after america i will be silver`
`14:13.53`	`TimMagic`	`woot!`
`14:13.53`	`Leeds`	`ah! on Cathay, diamond is the top class - those who do more than 4 or 5 return business class trips a year`
`14:14.00`	`TimMagic`	`ok`
`14:14.26`	`Leeds`	`virgin uses red/silver/gold - I'm silver and very safely renewed for next year, but not quite making gold`
`14:15.00`	`TimMagic`	`bmi partners with loads of airlines so i should be fairly safe`
`14:15.09`	`Leeds`	`including Virgin, IRIC`
`14:15.34`	`cbz`	`Has anyone here heard of senokian?`
`14:15.35`	`Leeds`	`I'm only really into Virgin because I took a bunch of trips to the US with them in my previous job`
`14:16.02`	`Leeds`	`cbz: doesn't ring a bell... context?`
`14:16.35`	`TimMagic`	`leeds: yep!`
`14:17.00`	`Leeds`	`anyway, rapidly approaching bedtime`
`14:17.04`	`cbz`	`Leeds: Some opensource consultancy my little bro is going for an interview with`
`14:17.18`	`Leeds`	`cbz: then no, never heard of them...`
`14:17.54`	`Leeds`	`100 packets transmitted, 90 received, 10% packet loss, time 99019ms`
`14:17.55`	`Leeds`	`rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 306.533/656.090/1094.106/172.913 ms, pipe 2`
`14:18.11`	`other_mozrat`	`Leeds: why are you pinging the moon?`
`14:18.30`	`Leeds`	`other_mozrat: that's the second hop out of my LAN :-(`
`14:18.42`	`Leeds`	`it's a 192.168 address, apparently owned by the ISP...`
`14:19.28`	`Leeds`	`that's the ISP, rather than the building, whose hole-in-the-wall I'm plugged into`
`14:20.32`	`Leeds`	`I've seen both the latency and packet loss to that host get much higher than that - and all hosts beyond it show the same problems`
`14:20.56`	`Leeds`	`the first hop out of my LAN shows 0% loss, and 10ms average ping :-(`
`14:21.06`	`Leeds`	`anyway, bed`
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`14:22.45`	`TimMagic`	`can anyone recommend a holiday destination? im getting itchy feet`
`14:23.20`	`cbz`	`What sort of holiday destination?`
`14:23.34`	`cbz`	`You can get good offers on an adventure trip to afghanistan atm`
`14:23.57`	`TimMagic`	`lol with a 2 year minimum stay?`
`14:24.09`	`cbz`	`:)`
`14:24.17`	`TimMagic`	`somewhere nice - some beach, some action, good food, stuff to do and see`
`14:24.30`	`cbz`	`Sweden.`
`14:24.46`	`TimMagic`	`meh`
`14:24.48`	`TimMagic`	`bit close`
`14:24.59`	`wethrin`	`Cuba`
`14:25.04`	`TimMagic`	`and i went in february`
`14:25.09`	`TimMagic`	`bit communist`
`14:25.16`	`cbz`	`'s nothing wrong with close - everywhere is the same place awya these days.`
`14:25.24`	`cbz`	`Domincan Republic.`
`14:25.50`	`TimMagic`	`i guess`
`14:25.57`	`cbz`	`Seychelles.`
`14:26.00`	`TimMagic`	`dominican rep sounds good`
`14:26.02`	`wethrin`	`Ascension Island`
`14:26.08`	`cbz`	`Zanzibar.`
`14:26.22`	`TimMagic`	`zanzibar! not done africa yet`
`14:27.03`	`eyore`	`grr linux firefox keeps popping up framed content in new windows`
`14:27.12`	`eyore`	`it's creating popups where they don't even exist!`
`14:27.37`	`TimMagic`	`a price for london to san francisco`
`14:27.38`	`TimMagic`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:27.38`	`TimMagic`	`Total Airfare (including taxes and charges): USD 1123.08`
`14:27.38`	`TimMagic`	`Penalty: NONREF/NONEND/NONTRANS`
`14:27.54`	`cbz`	`Bleh, badlandia`
`14:28.12`	`TimMagic`	`i was quite tempted by hawaii`
`14:28.21`	`cbz`	`Again, badlandia.`
`14:28.35`	`TimMagic`	`or maybe africa`
`14:28.38`	`cbz`	`Fiji.`
`14:28.50`	`wethrin`	`Alaska?`
`14:29.39`	`morsing`	`Denmark?`
`14:29.43`	`other_mozrat`	`Bognor Regis`
`14:29.56`	`morsing`	`other_mozrat: You're starting to annoy me!`
`14:30.07`	`other_mozrat`	`morsing: why?`
`14:30.10`	`cbz`	`It doesn't take much.`
`14:30.13`	`morsing`	`Can we have the real Mozzie back please!`
`14:30.16`	`cbz`	`Just insult AIX`
`14:30.31`	`eyore`	`AIX bloody hell, is that thing still going?`
`14:30.44`	`other_mozrat`	`morsing: Nope - my freeshell host is refusing SSH connections`
`14:35.50`	`morsing`	`ibot shape other_mozrat`
`14:38.21`	`other_mozrat`	`ibot help`
`14:38.37`	`other_mozrat`	`what does shape do?`
`14:39.31`	`boudiccas`	`it gives you the '8' shape :)`
`14:39.41`	`boudiccas`	`lol`
`14:43.58`	`other_mozrat`	`:-)`
`14:48.45`	`morsing`	`ibot TwoSheds`
`15:00.08`	`TimMagic`	`can anyone help me with my nx setup?`
`15:02.19`	`TimMagic`	`anyone?`
`15:02.40`	`morsing`	`nx?`
`15:03.01`	`TimMagic`	`yeah`
`15:03.57`	`TimMagic`	`im trying to install nomachine on my laptop with minimal amounts of success`
`15:24.28`	`TimMagic`	`lalala noone here to help me?!!`
`15:26.21`	`boudiccas`	`lalala; i'm here but i don't know enough to help you! sorry!`
`15:26.58`	`other_mozrat`	`Saddam Hussien has been found guilty and is going to face the firing squad. he is allowed to choose the members of the squad`
`15:27.12`	`other_mozrat`	`the FA have denied that he requested Gerrard, Lampard and Carragher`
`15:28.48`	`boudiccas`	`lol`
`15:28.53`	`TimMagic`	`hehe good one`
`15:29.00`	`TimMagic`	`why isnt george here to help?`
`15:29.05`	`boudiccas`	`i actually believed you until i saw the second line`
`15:29.33`	`morsing`	`Remind me again`
`15:29.47`	`morsing`	`connect /tmp/.X11-unix/X0: No such file or directory`
`15:29.47`	`morsing`	`X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).`
`15:29.55`	`morsing`	`Something to do with...?`
`15:30.13`	`TimMagic`	`all the times i dont need him he is here beating me up with the assistance of eastern europeans and now when i do hes afk`
`15:30.23`	`TimMagic`	`morsing:?`
`15:30.33`	`morsing`	`Xauth or soemthing?`
`15:30.46`	`morsing`	`We fixed this a few weeks ago, didn't we?`
`15:30.54`	`sabinef72`	`hi men`
`15:30.58`	`morsing`	`sabinef72!`
`15:31.07`	`cbz`	`hi woman.`
`15:31.12`	`sabinef72`	`please give me a swimming pool`
`15:31.27`	`sabinef72`	`30.1°C in the computer room`
`15:31.29`	`boudiccas`	`sabinef72; why are you being rude to me please?`
`15:31.39`	`sabinef72`	`boudiccas: sorry ?`
`15:32.03`	`morsing`	`wethrin?`
`15:32.07`	`TimMagic`	`yo sabinef72`
`15:32.08`	`boudiccas`	`coming on here and saying 'hi men'!`
`15:32.29`	`sabinef72`	`boudiccas: and what's the problem ?`
`15:32.37`	`sabinef72`	`boudiccas: ohhhhhhhhhh are you a woman ?`
`15:32.40`	`boudiccas`	`i'm not a man!`
`15:32.43`	`sabinef72`	`ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh`
`15:32.44`	`boudiccas`	`yes`
`15:32.46`	`boudiccas`	`:)`
`15:32.48`	`sabinef72`	`I didn't know`
`15:33.00`	`sabinef72`	`so : hi men and boudiccas !`
`15:33.02`	`boudiccas`	`apology accepted :)`
`15:33.03`	`TimMagic`	`morsing: i have allegedly installed the server, client and node, but when i try and run the server from the terminal it says its a bad command`
`15:33.25`	`TimMagic`	`and #nx are being no help either!!!`
`15:33.33`	`TimMagic`	`sabinef72: u ok?`
`15:34.01`	`sabinef72`	`TimMagic: yes all is ok except the weather too much hot. And you ?`
`15:34.15`	`TimMagic`	`not 3 bad`
`15:34.20`	`George`	`HI`
`15:34.42`	`TimMagic`	`george!`
`15:34.46`	`George`	`I'm stuck in a Royal Marines camp somewhere.`
`15:34.46`	`George`	`fucking van broke down`
`15:35.08`	`TimMagic`	`alas`
`15:35.20`	`boudiccas`	`sabinef72; it will change tomorrow, storms and floods forecast`
`15:35.41`	`cbz`	`What were you doing George ?`
`15:36.48`	`sabinef72`	`boudiccas: ok thanks for the information`
`15:37.08`	`boudiccas`	`sabinef72; i'm just across the channel from you in kent :)`
`15:37.26`	`sabinef72`	`we just have a little storm here but only few drops of rain and no change about the degree`
`15:38.03`	`boudiccas`	`its starting to cloud over here, showing cirrus clouds high in the sky which forecast rain`
`15:38.11`	`sabinef72`	`kent ? what is it ?`
`15:38.21`	`boudiccas`	`a county of england`
`15:38.33`	`TimMagic`	`it was nice here earlier, then it hammered down for about a minute and now its nice again`
`15:38.55`	`boudiccas`	`TimMagic; you must be within the 'wimbledon effect' :)`
`15:39.43`	`wethrin`	`morsing: ??`
`15:39.58`	`morsing`	`wethrin: !!#`
`15:40.24`	`sabinef72`	`oh oh ! Is wimbledon is near your home boudiccas ?`
`15:40.29`	`wethrin`	`You '?' me a few minutes ago?`
`15:40.56`	`boudiccas`	`sabinef72; no, many miles away from me. I'm not too far from Canterbury`
`15:41.20`	`sabinef72`	`ah ok`
`15:42.52`	`TimMagic`	`its about 15 miles from me`
`15:44.43`	`sabinef72`	`ohhh it's near your home TimMagic : Won't you go to see a match ?`
`15:45.11`	`TimMagic`	`25 kms`
`15:45.15`	`TimMagic`	`probably not`
`15:45.21`	`sabinef72`	`yes 25 kms it's not far`
`15:45.22`	`sabinef72`	`why ?`
`15:45.29`	`TimMagic`	`i am back in work tomorrow until sunday`
`15:45.36`	`TimMagic`	`and it will have finished by then!`
`15:45.52`	`sabinef72`	`:-(`
`15:47.11`	`TimMagic`	`i know`
`15:51.10`	`TimMagic`	`plus 25 km is a long way in london`
`15:51.28`	`TimMagic`	`it would take at least 2 hours`
`16:01.32`	`z00dax`	`its been an interesting day so far`
`16:03.20`	`wethrin`	`howso?`
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`16:52.55`	`TimMagic`	`hmm`
`16:53.06`	`TimMagic`	`i figure i might just get dressed and go out now`
`16:53.47`	`goltor`	`big step`
`16:53.56`	`z00dax`	`TimMagic: not working today ?`
`16:55.59`	`TimMagic`	`mope`
`16:56.10`	`TimMagic`	`back in tomorrow`
`16:59.10`	`TimMagic`	`u had a fun filled day?`
`17:02.21`	`z00dax`	`so far, its been awesome`
`17:13.15`	`TimMagic`	`great`
`17:13.18`	`TimMagic`	`im off now`
`17:13.20`	`TimMagic`	`laters yo`
`17:14.17`	`morsing`	`beer`
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`18:51.56`	`PalmMagic`	`yo`
`18:52.02`	`PalmMagic`	`anyone here`
`18:52.28`	`z00dax`	`PalmMagic: maybe`
`18:52.51`	`PalmMagic`	`ok`
`18:53.58`	`PalmMagic`	`maybe ill talk then`
`18:54.37`	`z00dax`	`:)`
`18:54.50`	`z00dax`	`so has anyoen used the Nokia 770 /`
`18:56.24`	`PalmMagic`	`for?`
`18:56.49`	`JAV`	`a bit at guadec nokia stand`
`18:56.58`	`z00dax`	`just general fluff.`
`18:57.06`	`PalmMagic`	`no`
`18:57.09`	`z00dax`	`I seem to have a choice between the treo 650 and a Nokia 770`
`18:57.28`	`JAV`	`nokia is great, but it's not a phone`
`18:57.32`	`z00dax`	`the nokia seems more potent to me ( in that I can get mutt running on it and maybe a few other similar cool-tools )`
`18:57.36`	`PalmMagic`	`never! any good?`
`18:57.40`	`z00dax`	`I dont need a phone...`
`18:58.02`	`z00dax`	`I would however, like something to read rss on, check emails and stuff while on the train / tube - and maybe listen to some music`
`18:58.31`	`JAV`	`the one reason I don't buy a 770 at this moment is that I have a pair of ipaqs`
`18:58.43`	`JAV`	`z00dax: buy the 770`
`18:59.04`	`z00dax`	`JAV: why ? :)`
`18:59.23`	`PalmMagic`	`i have a nokia smart phone atm but it isnt smart`
`18:59.25`	`JAV`	`the screen is great to read things, great resolution`
`19:00.01`	`JAV`	`and it already does all those things (running linux)`
`19:00.02`	`PalmMagic`	`its something else that begns with s and ends with t`
`19:00.41`	`z00dax`	`i saw someone running mutt on the 770 - that sort of immediately got my attention`
`19:01.35`	`JAV`	`you can program it in python...`
`19:02.19`	`JAV`	`watch films, listen music`
`19:04.30`	`z00dax`	`humm... i suppose I'd need to talk to a Treo Fanboy first :)`
`19:04.38`	`z00dax`	`to see what they haveto say about this...`
`19:04.45`	`JAV`	`yesteday I was tempted to buy one, but I stopped in the last minute (350 euros)`
`19:04.53`	`JAV`	`z00dax: correct`
`19:04.54`	`z00dax`	`also it seems I am getting a good deal on the Nokia because there is a newer version out soon`
`19:05.06`	`z00dax`	`350 e ? humm I've been offered one for £120`
`19:05.41`	`JAV`	`that's the price in nokia.com (spain). I only looked there`
`19:06.01`	`JAV`	`vat included`
`19:06.27`	`z00dax`	`even then its a lot cheaper than the trep650`
`19:06.34`	`z00dax`	`s/p650/o650/`
`19:06.46`	`z00dax`	`and ... there is no Treo 700p in the UK as yet..`
`19:07.00`	`z00dax`	`( that I can find )`
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`19:10.41`	`JAV`	`back to work to forget it :)`
`19:12.52`	`z00dax`	`(`
`19:21.35`	`JAV`	`I still hope to find a Guadec photo in which I don't look like on drugs (only had I beer in 9 days)`
`19:22.30`	`z00dax`	`JAV: if you find one of those pics, hide it - make sure no one will ever find it`
`19:23.05`	`JAV`	`people won't recognise me anyway :D`
`19:25.43`	`JAV`	`http://www.flickr.com/photos/treitter/181759144/ --> this is the best one (I even look at camera)`
`19:26.37`	`z00dax`	`is it just me or is everything else around you out of focus`
`19:27.22`	`boudiccas`	`dt's`
`19:28.08`	`JAV`	`z00dax: cam loves me :D`
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`20:29.19`	`morsing`	`Profiteroles`
`20:30.38`	`JAV`	`yummy!`
`20:39.29`	`morsing`	`JAV!`
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`20:39.40`	`morsing`	`JAV: You want one? We still have some left`
`20:39.47`	`morsing`	`arika-chan!`
`20:39.55`	`arika-chan`	`morsing!`
`20:43.52`	`JAV`	`morsing: thanks :D`
`21:07.09`	`sabinef72`	`coucou`
`21:08.49`	`sabinef72`	`everybody is sleepy ?`
`21:09.01`	`George`	`mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo`
`21:09.02`	`JAV`	`hello sabinef72`
`21:11.50`	`sabinef72`	`hi JAV`
`21:36.41`	`sabinef72`	`ohhhhh JAV : una jarra de sangria !!!!!!`
`21:39.05`	`sabinef72`	`good night all`
`21:48.12`	`JAV`	`m�s de una jarra :D`
`21:48.22`	`JAV`	`good night sabinef72`
`21:54.11`	`hali`	`evening lads`
`21:58.27`	`JAV`	`evening hali`
`22:07.50`	`boudiccas`	`hali; sexist! ;)`
`22:08.22`	`boudiccas`	`we're not all blokes you know :)`
`22:08.39`	`TimMagic`	`yo`
`22:08.48`	`TimMagic`	`boudiccas is a bird`
`22:08.52`	`TimMagic`	`she aint no bloke`
`22:08.58`	`boudiccas`	`TimMagic; evening constable :)`
`22:09.13`	`TimMagic`	`hey`
`22:09.15`	`TimMagic`	`u ok?`
`22:09.32`	`boudiccas`	`slightly tippsy, been watching minder :)`
`22:09.36`	`hali`	`boudiccas: im so sorry, i was only aware of sabine and she had gone to bed already...`
`22:09.41`	`boudiccas`	`and drinking g&T's`
`22:09.50`	`hali`	`s/lads/people/ :)`
`22:09.57`	`boudiccas`	`hali; its not a problem :)`
`22:10.40`	`boudiccas`	`i just give gentle reminders, its not a major problem :)`
`22:11.13`	`boudiccas`	`anyways, I'm a geekette :)`
`22:11.33`	`boudiccas`	`been using linux now for 2.5 years`
`22:11.48`	`hali`	`cool, we need more geekettes :)`
`22:11.57`	`boudiccas`	`hear, hear :)`
`22:12.41`	`boudiccas`	`i'm talking a friend in devon through setting up linux on a box on sunday`
`22:12.54`	`boudiccas`	`another convert :)`
`22:13.24`	`hali`	`thats the spirit... more converts`
`22:13.36`	`hali`	`most my geekette friends went down the mac route`
`22:13.49`	`boudiccas`	`and then i'm hoping to get him crunching on my folding@home team`
`22:14.00`	`boudiccas`	`my friend is a bloke :)`
`22:14.16`	`hali`	`oh.. any new nix user is still a nix user :)`
`22:14.20`	`boudiccas`	`but i don't hold it agianst him`
`22:14.43`	`hali`	`no worries, im probably bi anyway :)`
`22:14.48`	`boudiccas`	`damned dyslexic keybaord`
`22:14.59`	`boudiccas`	`lol`
`22:15.14`	`boudiccas`	`what was the germany v italy score?`
`22:15.25`	`hali`	`italy won i think`
`22:15.30`	`hali`	`some guy is cheering in another channel`
`22:15.44`	`boudiccas`	`i know italy won, but don't know the score`
`22:15.53`	`goltor`	`yeah i live with one`
`22:16.06`	`goltor`	`think he's gone for a run to manchester or something`
`22:16.06`	`boudiccas`	`german or italian?`
`22:16.17`	`goltor`	`2-0`
`22:16.20`	`goltor`	`italy`
`22:16.24`	`boudiccas`	`long way to run!`
`22:16.24`	`hali`	`nice`
`22:16.29`	`hali`	`showed them brown shirts`
`22:16.34`	`boudiccas`	`a convincing scoreline that`
`22:16.36`	`goltor`	`last minute of extra time`
`22:16.52`	`goltor`	`or something`
`22:17.33`	`boudiccas`	`gonn`
`22:18.23`	`hali`	`hm, im never going to go to sleep in this heat... central london is like a baking owen`
`22:18.35`	`boudiccas`	`have a drink or three :)`
`22:18.53`	`hali`	`just got back home from soho... drinking coke at the moment :)`
`22:18.56`	`boudiccas`	`even if you have got a hot welshman :)`
`22:19.18`	`boudiccas`	`a 'baking owen' :)))))`
`22:19.26`	`hali`	`no welsh people here... im swedish... so hot is hotter`
`22:19.53`	`boudiccas`	`northern blood is thinner and feels the heat more :)`
`22:20.19`	`boudiccas`	`TimMagic; you've gone all quiet :)`
`22:22.10`	`hali`	`gah, NYPD Blue on More4 is making fun of irc`
`22:22.37`	`hali`	`they make it look like irc is full of pervs... everyone knows it's no more than 95% pervs`
`22:22.46`	`boudiccas`	`what they don't know or understand they poke fun at`
`22:23.27`	`boudiccas`	`the ubiqiuitus 'they'`
`22:23.29`	`hali`	`classic crime story, "guy meets girl in chatroom, guy rapes, kills and chops girl up in tiny peaces and feeds here to his parrot"`
`22:23.49`	`hali`	`im assuming parrots eat meat.. not sure about that`
`22:23.53`	`boudiccas`	`can't be true, parrots are vegetarian`
`22:24.02`	`boudiccas`	`eat seeds and such like`
`22:26.08`	`hali`	`hm, cool. they at least referred to email as email and not "hotmailing"`
`22:26.08`	`boudiccas`	`centos 4.3`
`22:26.16`	`hali`	`it's nice isn't it`
`22:26.28`	`boudiccas`	`hali; you on centos?`
`22:26.40`	`hali`	`linux servers*`
`22:26.41`	`boudiccas`	`its good desktop`
`22:27.13`	`boudiccas`	`nice and stable`
`22:27.19`	`hali`	`indeed.. very solid`
`22:27.31`	`hali`	`i like ubuntu though... more cutting edge and more cool stuff`
`22:33.42`	`boudiccas`	`this is the longest i've had one distro on`
`22:33.42`	`hali`	`and we know the guy compiling it.. which makes it even more fun to use :)`
`22:33.42`	`boudiccas`	`trouble with cutting edge is that you have to renew every 6 months :(`
`22:33.43`	`hali`	`ubuntu has a "LTS" version now.. Long term support... 5 years for server and 3 years for desktop`
`22:33.43`	`boudiccas`	`we can spout gripes staright to the horse :)`
`22:33.43`	`boudiccas`	`*straight`
`22:33.43`	`boudiccas`	`i'll settle for RHEL/CentOS support`
`22:33.43`	`boudiccas`	`its longer :)`
`22:33.43`	`hali`	`i installed centos on six servers at work today.. just so fast and simple to deploy.. i use kickstart to mass deploy`
`22:33.43`	`hali`	`and it just works :)`
`22:33.43`	`boudiccas`	`you can also have a local repo too for updates`
`22:33.43`	`hali`	`yeah, we use yam for our internal yum repos`
`22:33.43`	`boudiccas`	`never used yam, prefer straight yum or yumex`
`22:33.43`	`hali`	`yam is some script that rsyncs the main repo and creates a local repo db.. it's a bit outdated now.. i need to look in to a better newer way`
`22:33.43`	`hali`	`yumex perhaps`
`22:33.43`	`hali`	`yam still uses the old yum format... not the new cool sqlite based`
`22:33.43`	`boudiccas`	`yumex is just a gui for yum i think`
`22:33.44`	`hali`	`ok..`
`22:33.44`	`boudiccas`	`but ymmv`
`22:33.44`	`boudiccas`	`i tend to 'talk' a lot when i'm drinking :(`
`22:34.02`	`hali`	`thats a good thing.. at least on irc :)`
`22:34.24`	`boudiccas`	`generates good conversation and friends/companions`
`22:34.41`	`boudiccas`	`but tiresome alcoholic wanderings`
`22:34.58`	`hali`	`was in the Milk and honey club in soho earlier.. such a nice club... quiet and good jazzy music.. and good AC`
`22:35.19`	`hali`	`and nice drinks :P`
`22:35.27`	`boudiccas`	`don';t like jza doesnt't seem to make any snese`
`22:35.36`	`boudiccas`	`like my spellign too`
`22:35.54`	`hali`	`i like "smooth jazz"... not that really out-there jazz`
`22:35.59`	`boudiccas`	`i prefer to drink at home and with homemede wines too`
`22:36.14`	`hali`	`drinking at home.. hmm..`
`22:36.24`	`boudiccas`	`not so far to stagger`
`22:36.36`	`boudiccas`	`no last orders`
`22:36.39`	`hali`	`you almost sound scandinavian ... swedes love it to sit at home and get drunk .. not like here`
`22:37.05`	`boudiccas`	`maybe i've got some norse blood soemwhere`
`22:37.33`	`hali`	`im sure you do... scandinavian vikings did a lot of raping and pillaging here a few hundred years ago :)`
`22:37.40`	`boudiccas`	`its not nice to see ladies drunk in public`
`22:37.51`	`hali`	`there is drunk and there is drunk`
`22:37.53`	`boudiccas`	`so i drink at home :)`
`22:38.09`	`hali`	`i like to talk to tipsy girls .. there are more honest :)`
`22:38.17`	`hali`	`drunk durnk can be quite bad`
`22:38.24`	`boudiccas`	`if you can understand their spelling :)`
`22:38.39`	`boudiccas`	`do you know Steep Hill in Lincoln?`
`22:38.51`	`boudiccas`	`Drunk I ran up it once!`
`22:38.54`	`hali`	`i don't even know Lincoln :)`
`22:39.07`	`boudiccas`	`its a 1:1 gradient`
`22:39.09`	`hali`	`this is sad... but i haven't been outside zone 1 in london since xmas :(`
`22:39.29`	`boudiccas`	`i haven't been out of maidstone for two years!`
`22:39.40`	`hali`	`thats bad!`
`22:39.48`	`boudiccas`	`no need!`
`22:39.55`	`boudiccas`	`everything i want is here`
`22:40.04`	`hali`	`hey thats my line`
`22:40.10`	`boudiccas`	`sorry`
`22:40.36`	`hali`	`"everything i want is here"... i can even get peacon lube 4 o'clock in the morning`
`22:40.49`	`boudiccas`	`whatever that is! :)`
`22:40.52`	`hali`	`pecan?`
`22:40.57`	`hali`	`whatever :)`
`22:41.05`	`boudiccas`	`sounds like some oil based product`
`22:41.24`	`hali`	`never oil... ruins the rubber... water based is a must`
`22:41.41`	`boudiccas`	`i prefer ky, use it on the patients`
`22:41.52`	`boudiccas`	`or installagell`
`22:42.01`	`hali`	`ky is ok.. but a bit tasteless...`
`22:42.19`	`hali`	`a nurse you say :))`
`22:42.26`	`boudiccas`	`yes`
`22:42.29`	`hali`	`"i have this rash..."`
`22:42.40`	`hali`	`sorry, couldn't help myself`
`22:42.49`	`boudiccas`	`take 2 paracetamol and go lie down in a dark bedroom :)`
`22:42.56`	`hali`	`lol`
`22:43.17`	`boudiccas`	`nn all`
`22:43.29`	`hali`	`night... sleep well`
`22:43.30`	`boudiccas`	`this girl needs her beuaty sleep`
`22:44.31`	`boudiccas`	`hey hali have you joined the centos folding@home team?`
`22:44.42`	`hali`	`nope`
`22:44.44`	`hali`	`whats that?`
`22:44.54`	`boudiccas`	`please do, we need more memebrs`
`22:44.56`	`hali`	`i like folding paper.. origami stuff`
`22:45.28`	`boudiccas`	`hali; http://www.sharons.org.uk/cf.html`
`22:46.10`	`hali`	`hm, so i should abandon my search for ET's`
`22:46.25`	`boudiccas`	`yes, and move over to fah :)`
`22:46.47`	`boudiccas`	`i used to be, but moved over to fah as it would benefit humans more`
`22:46.50`	`hali`	`i've been considering leaving seti for a long time... there are more important projects out there`
`22:46.57`	`boudiccas`	`like fah`
`22:47.40`	`boudiccas`	`currenlty 45 team members`
`22:48.24`	`hali`	`hm, got over 24.000 seti units... a lot of stuff to abandon :)`
`22:48.30`	`hali`	`i'll consider it .. it is indeed for a better cause`
`22:48.37`	`boudiccas`	`yes, but they don't actually benefit humans do they`
`22:48.45`	`boudiccas`	`whereas fah does`
`22:48.49`	`TimMagic`	`sorry i went quiet`
`22:48.54`	`boudiccas`	`TimMagic; np`
`22:48.57`	`TimMagic`	`was looking at how to make ballistics gel`
`22:48.58`	`boudiccas`	`:)`
`22:49.15`	`boudiccas`	`you in the firearms squad?`
`22:49.34`	`TimMagic`	`nope`
`22:49.40`	`TimMagic`	`not yet anyway`
`22:49.51`	`boudiccas`	`i wondered with ballistics gel`
`22:50.06`	`TimMagic`	`i have an airsoft glock 17`
`22:50.09`	`hali`	`is that yet as in you want to be a part of a special forces team or as in the metropolitan police will soon get their uzi's :)`
`22:50.15`	`TimMagic`	`keep losing pellets`
`22:50.24`	`TimMagic`	`id like to carry a firearm one day`
`22:50.26`	`boudiccas`	`haven't they already got uzi's?`
`22:50.31`	`TimMagic`	`nope`
`22:50.39`	`boudiccas`	`me too for a firearm :)`
`22:50.48`	`hali`	`only the anti-terror teams or something like that`
`22:50.51`	`TimMagic`	`Hechler and koch mp and glock 17`
`22:50.58`	`TimMagic`	`uzis are dangerous`
`22:51.06`	`boudiccas`	`i've got a bb gun somewhere`
`22:51.06`	`hali`	`the glock is a damn nice gun... i had one when i was in the army`
`22:51.18`	`TimMagic`	`its nice isnt it?`
`22:51.25`	`TimMagic`	`which army?`
`22:51.34`	`boudiccas`	`swedish?`
`22:51.37`	`hali`	`swedish airforce to be precisce`
`22:51.44`	`boudiccas`	`close :)`
`22:51.45`	`hali`	`i was a weather man :D`
`22:52.05`	`boudiccas`	`cirrus clouds this afternoon .. rain coming`
`22:52.15`	`hali`	`"look at those pretty clouds.. nice.. ok, lets go get some tea and biscuits"`
`22:53.05`	`TimMagic`	`kjempefint!`
`22:53.21`	`hali`	`thats norweigan i think :)`
`22:53.28`	`hali`	`+spelling`
`22:53.33`	`TimMagic`	`yeah`
`22:53.37`	`TimMagic`	`mycket bra!`
`22:53.48`	`hali`	`thats on the other hand is proper swedish :)`
`22:53.55`	`hali`	`bra bra`
`22:54.07`	`boudiccas`	`please, leave my bra out of it :)`
`22:54.17`	`hali`	`:)`
`22:54.27`	`hali`	`bra is 'good' in swedish`
`22:54.33`	`boudiccas`	`sehr gut`
`22:54.40`	`hali`	`spitzenklasse... :)`
`22:54.54`	`TimMagic`	`for tea and biscuits read lutfisk and schnapps!`
`22:55.02`	`TimMagic`	`danke sehr!`
`22:55.09`	`hali`	`pff.. noone eats lutfisk`
`22:55.21`	`TimMagic`	`are you surprised?`
`22:55.24`	`hali`	`no`
`22:55.27`	`hali`	`it's horrible :)`
`22:55.46`	`hali`	`my grandfather eats it at christmas just to prove a point`
`22:55.58`	`TimMagic`	`like sprouts then...`
`22:56.04`	`hali`	`he hates it as well.. but wants to keep up with tradition`
`22:56.35`	`TimMagic`	`jag like inte lutfisk`
`22:56.51`	`TimMagic`	`hmm - should maybe have an r on the end`
`22:56.56`	`hali`	`like is danish.. but other than that correct :)`
`22:57.09`	`TimMagic`	`jag liker inte lutfisk`
`22:57.14`	`hali`	`dansish`
`22:57.19`	`hali`	`gillar in swedish`
`22:57.27`	`hali`	`or 'tycker om'`
`22:57.27`	`TimMagic`	`jag liker ikke lutfisk`
`22:57.34`	`hali`	`danish, again`
`22:57.40`	`hali`	`ikke is also danish`
`22:57.40`	`TimMagic`	`s/lutfisk/lutefisk/`
`22:57.48`	`TimMagic`	`s/jag/jeg/`
`22:57.58`	`hali`	`thats perfect danish`
`22:58.14`	`TimMagic`	`tim meant : jeg liker ikke lutefisk!!! woo got it in norsk finally!`
`22:58.18`	`hali`	`ah, but in ibot`
`22:58.49`	`hali`	`norsk or danish... sounds the same to me... swedes are the outcasts in the scandinavian language group`
`22:58.57`	`TimMagic`	`if u read it aloud it sounds nothing like danish`
`22:59.09`	`TimMagic`	`and danes are outcats generally!!!`
`22:59.23`	`hali`	`they have so much else going for them anyway :)`
`22:59.29`	`hali`	`cheap alcohol for starters`
`22:59.39`	`TimMagic`	`s/outcats/outcasts/`
`22:59.41`	`TimMagic`	`true`
`23:00.17`	`TimMagic`	`boudiccas: feeling left out?`
`23:12.47`	`TimMagic`	`lalala`
`23:13.06`	`TimMagic`	`bored`
`23:45.11`	`TimMagic`	`off to bed`
`23:45.13`	`TimMagic`	`nn all`
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