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03:17.16 | Leeds | shai: ping |
03:17.28 | shai | hi ;) |
03:17.38 | George | hi |
03:17.46 | shai | pong Leeds |
03:17.51 | Leeds | shai: mazel tov! |
03:17.57 | shai | thanks!!! |
03:18.00 | shai | toda :) |
03:18.01 | Leeds | everybody is well, I hope? |
03:18.07 | shai | yea! |
03:18.18 | shai | but we are all pulling all nighters... |
03:18.27 | shai | have you seen the photos? |
03:18.29 | Leeds | it's traditional... |
03:18.32 | Leeds | I saw them :-) |
03:18.43 | shai | the URL has changed (i've re-sent the email) |
03:18.53 | Leeds | I saw - have the photos changed or just the URL? |
03:19.08 | shai | just the URL (wrote that in the email body) |
03:19.47 | Leeds | friend of mine in Jerusalem had a son last week as well... and it was my birthday :-) |
03:21.26 | Leeds | shai: and in a bigger sense, everyone is okay? |
03:21.37 | Leeds | you're not heading up north or anything? |
03:24.40 | shai | we are not going anywhere |
03:25.08 | Leeds | so your services have not been required... |
03:25.13 | shai | and yea, we are all ok .. we have relatives up north (family of my mom's brother) and it is very hard to cope with |
03:25.20 | shai | gotta go help michal .. bbl |
03:25.26 | Leeds | say hi from me |
03:25.36 | shai | sure (and to your Q, no) |
03:25.45 | Leeds | good... |
04:00.48 | George | "At the other end of the scale, the average student in Cambridge spent £206 per week, but made just £69 from term-time employment." |
04:00.55 | George | how the fuck do you spend 206 pounds a week |
04:01.39 | George | oh wait, that includes accommodation |
04:02.39 | George | but still, accommodation is about 70 quid a week, that means you're spending 130 quid on food.. |
04:03.07 | Leeds | and booze, travel, clothes, books, etc. etc. |
04:03.40 | George | booze counts as food |
04:03.50 | Leeds | no it doesn't |
04:03.53 | George | yes it does |
04:33.16 | Leeds | repeat after me: I am not tech support. If your Windows won't shut down properly - it's not my problem. |
06:13.08 | Leeds | http://tinyurl.com/f3h6k is interesting, and it's worth following the wikipedia link and reading the talk page... |
06:14.36 | Leeds | sorry, I meant http://tinyurl.com/lvlh3 |
06:23.59 | Leeds | ibot time |
06:24.01 | ibot | You are educated stupid and therefore too dumb to understand nature's perfect time cube! (2006.08.07 6:24:01 GMT) |
06:24.14 | Leeds | ibot botsnack |
06:24.14 | ibot | :), Leeds |
06:48.43 | morsing | Ehhhh wethrin's server has gone down. FreeSD sucks |
06:56.25 | morsing | Leeds! |
06:56.33 | Leeds | yes? |
06:58.02 | morsing | 'morning |
06:58.47 | Leeds | no |
06:59.32 | morsing | :( |
06:59.41 | Leeds | 'afternoon |
07:10.13 | AndrewDBlack | morning |
07:23.30 | morsing | AndrewDBlack! |
07:23.53 | morsing | Leeds: You'll notice my backspace is now working because I'm using a PC :) |
07:25.26 | Leeds | um... I can't quite see that from here... |
07:25.31 | Leeds | didn't ctrl-h work, anyway? |
07:28.07 | morsing | Leeds: No. You can tell because I can say Leeds! which I can't easily without backspace |
07:28.51 | morsing | What? |
07:28.51 | Leeds | why not? |
07:29.05 | morsing | Well, I can but not worth the effort |
07:29.16 | Leeds | to press 5 keys, 2 with shift? |
07:29.46 | Leeds | uh, 6 |
07:32.26 | morsing | What about AndrewDBlack ? |
07:32.49 | Leeds | I wouldn't expect you to type his overly-long nick, no... you might tire your fingers out |
07:32.56 | morsing | :) |
07:33.04 | Leeds | :-) |
07:34.46 | morsing | uptime |
07:35.04 | Leeds | 15:34:55 up 4 days, 4:49, 0 users, load average: 0.27, 0.20, 0.23 |
07:37.09 | sabinef72 | morning all |
07:37.21 | Leeds | guten tag |
07:39.34 | morsing | sabinef72! |
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07:40.36 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
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07:45.45 | sabinef72 | morsing !!!!!!!!!! |
07:50.26 | SlayerXP | sabine !!!!!!! ma cherie!!!!!!!!!!! |
07:50.29 | SlayerXP | *ahem* |
07:50.42 | sabinef72 | SlayerXP: hu hu serait-ce une déclaration ? |
07:51.04 | SlayerXP | i don't know what "serait" means |
07:51.18 | SlayerXP | je comprend pas "serait" |
07:51.57 | SlayerXP | i must trick george into saying "je suis le petit ami du sabine" |
07:52.05 | sabinef72 | it's the verb "to be" but with a special conjugaison |
07:52.17 | sabinef72 | it means : Is it a declaration ? |
07:52.30 | sabinef72 | SlayerXP: but George will laugh at you |
07:52.40 | sabinef72 | because George knows I'm already married !!!!!! |
07:52.55 | SlayerXP | your '!' key is sticky, it seems |
07:53.44 | sabinef72 | :-) |
07:55.27 | morsing | Mmm... George |
07:57.55 | sabinef72 | how was your week end ? |
07:58.22 | morsing | Whoe are you asking? |
07:58.24 | morsing | Who |
07:59.07 | sabinef72 | you |
07:59.10 | sabinef72 | and SlayerXP too |
07:59.23 | SlayerXP | my weekend was speedy |
07:59.32 | Leeds | you spent it on drugs? |
07:59.46 | SlayerXP | i found a delicious recipe for barbeque-style sauce for spare ribs |
08:00.21 | SlayerXP | muahaha |
08:00.23 | SlayerXP | muahahahhahahahhaa |
08:00.25 | SlayerXP | MUAHAHAHHAHAHHA |
08:00.26 | SlayerXP | *ahem* |
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08:00.41 | Leeds | go ahead, make my day |
08:00.59 | SlayerXP | coffee? tea? |
08:01.05 | SlayerXP | can I get you a biscuit also? |
08:01.18 | Leeds | tea would be nice, thanks - green and unsweetened :-) |
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08:02.01 | SlayerXP | green tea? |
08:02.05 | Leeds | yup |
08:02.15 | SlayerXP | as in "vile and disgusting" ? |
08:02.24 | Leeds | as in 'the default local drink' |
08:02.25 | sabinef72 | morsing: ? |
08:02.28 | SlayerXP | oh |
08:02.34 | Leeds | actually, I prefer iced and lemon... |
08:02.42 | SlayerXP | yuck |
08:02.52 | SlayerXP | I like my tea british style |
08:03.07 | Leeds | when it's 30C and 90% humidity outside, iced and lemon goes down well |
08:03.54 | sabinef72 | Leeds: is it enough ????????? |
08:04.02 | sabinef72 | Leeds: you ask a lot this morning ! |
08:04.08 | Leeds | sabinef72: what? |
08:05.02 | sabinef72 | Leeds: well you want a tea, but a green tea, but with ice, but with lemon, but with a biscuit..... |
08:06.02 | Leeds | sabinef72: SlayerXP, having threatened me with his power as list admin, then showed the correct respect when I showed my power in return |
08:06.38 | Leeds | I never asked for a biscuit! |
08:06.51 | morsing | sabinef72: I was hardly at home but had a good weekend with some problems |
08:07.19 | morsing | Spend the whole weekend at a very good friend's house |
08:07.24 | sabinef72 | Leeds :-) |
08:07.28 | morsing | But he was on call till Sat morning |
08:07.44 | sabinef72 | arg |
08:07.52 | morsing | And me and his wife again had a go at him for eing an out-of-control woorkaholic |
08:08.12 | SlayerXP | i was on call all weekend |
08:08.27 | SlayerXP | but given i have _zero_ access to the live environment, it was a moot point |
08:08.30 | morsing | SlayerXP: Did you sleep more than 4 hours over the weekend? |
08:08.36 | SlayerXP | hell yes |
08:08.38 | morsing | sleep! |
08:08.45 | morsing | SlayerXP: Not the same then |
08:11.30 | sabinef72 | morsing: are you working now or still in vacation ? |
08:17.54 | morsing | I'm working |
08:22.17 | sabinef72 | ok I see |
08:22.27 | sabinef72 | so I won't disturb you |
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08:28.48 | Leeds | argh! fucking chain letters |
08:28.53 | Leeds | also, good afternoon Cope |
08:30.06 | Leeds | a little girl dying of cancer in a New York hospital wants you to send around this poem she wrote (incidentally, also, written by a bloke called David) and the American Cancer Society will pay 3c towards her treatment for everyone who reads it |
08:30.45 | hali | cool.. i wonder how they audit the "reads" |
08:30.45 | morsing | Cope! |
08:30.57 | hali | one might even think it's a hoax |
08:31.53 | Leeds | hali: if one had the slightest clue how the internets worked, yes... but there must be things somewhere on the series of tubes which let them count emails |
08:32.35 | hali | must have a massive regexp stretching over all those tubes... matching that poem |
08:33.12 | rhowe | Don't be silly |
08:33.30 | rhowe | It's monitored via the malware 99% of desktops have installed |
08:33.55 | Leeds | anyway, since of course it was cc:ed not bcc:ed, I sent back a reply to everyone... ha ha ha |
08:34.16 | Cope | ,morning |
08:54.37 | Leeds | hmm... forgot I'd arranged to meet a couple of guys this evening for drinks - was thinking this was my night off this week... probably pub quizzing on Tuesday, leaving drinks and a mass dinner (conflict!) on Wednesday, and a comedy club with Indian buffet on Thursday |
08:56.01 | morsing | Leeds: When are you back again? |
08:56.16 | Leeds | 27th - might be going to Spain for a few days that week |
09:00.49 | morsing | But we're still meeting for a drink? |
09:03.32 | sabinef72 | Cope !!!!!!!! |
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09:05.12 | Cope | woo keithlard |
09:09.06 | Leeds | morsing: plans are fluid - but I should be in London for at least a few hours that day :-) Realistically, probably at least one night |
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09:15.58 | Leeds | hmm... French music again on my radio |
09:17.21 | phearless | lucky. |
09:17.34 | sabinef72 | :-) |
09:18.55 | Leeds | Camille again |
09:21.22 | sabinef72 | the radio only knows her ? |
09:22.10 | Leeds | what? |
09:22.27 | sabinef72 | you said : Camille on the radio |
09:22.33 | Leeds | she's obviously made it onto their playlist |
09:22.49 | sabinef72 | so I ask if the radio only knows her |
09:23.06 | sabinef72 | you already heard french music on radio and it was already Camille |
09:27.37 | Leeds | yes, I think she's probably the only French artist - or artist performing in French - on the playlist... but that station is proud of not sticking to its playlist anyway - it's the second song I've heard on the radio today in French |
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09:30.13 | dpardo | Morning all |
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09:31.05 | Leeds | hometime bell! |
09:34.55 | dpardo | I'm looking at the linuxworld programme.. looks good. |
09:35.46 | Leeds | I hope I won't be able to make it |
09:36.33 | dpardo | make what? |
09:36.52 | Leeds | it to linuxworld |
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09:37.14 | dpardo | But aren't you in China? Will you come? |
09:37.40 | Leeds | well, I'll be in London next month, but if I'm still in London by the end of October, my plans will have failed pretty completely |
09:37.51 | Leeds | it's not quite either - I'm in Hong Kong |
09:38.08 | Leeds | sort of China, sort of not |
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09:38.41 | danip | Are you coming on vacation or something? |
09:38.56 | Leeds | uh... well, as of 26/8 I have no job and no home here |
09:39.12 | danip | Oops.. |
09:39.32 | danip | So you plan to find another (job && home) from the UK? |
09:39.46 | Leeds | so my plan at the moment is to head back to the UK - bought a flight last week, slightly worried that the charge hasn't showed on my card, and it's not showing on my account at Virgin's site |
09:39.59 | Leeds | stay in the UK until the first week of October... then come back out here |
09:40.37 | Leeds | I haven't done much real job-hunting, but I have done some networking... meeting up with a bloke I know tonight, planning to discuss possible work |
09:40.40 | danip | :) So you really enjoy china don't you? Isn't it too overcrowded? |
09:40.56 | Leeds | I enjoy Hong Kong - I've never been to China, although I do have a visa... |
09:41.19 | Leeds | http://www.wanderingjew.co.uk/Hong_Kong/urban_wasteland.html |
09:41.36 | danip | I guess if you're english, then that's a bonus for getting a job in there. |
09:41.54 | Leeds | that's my thoughts on the overcrowding... in short - yes, some areas are overcrowded, but that's largely because about 2/3 of the land is undeveloped |
09:43.34 | danip | I already find London overcrowded.. I better don't go to HongKong :) |
09:44.42 | Leeds | honestly, I sort of find my area here to have a lot more of a community feel than I did in London |
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09:46.14 | danip | Yep, London and other cities are quite awful in this sense.. |
09:47.14 | Leeds | one of the really nice things about Hong Kong is that it's actually a small town |
09:47.37 | danip | you mean in size? |
09:47.40 | Cope | I am enjoying being in the countyside now |
09:47.46 | Leeds | you bump into people you know... you can walk a lot of places... you get known in the shops |
09:48.02 | Leeds | Cope: but you have to admit that it's not the most convenient thing, work-wise |
09:49.59 | Cope | well, i had no problem finding a job outside london |
09:50.13 | danip | Mmm.. work-wise vs life-wise... nice question. IMHO, a high % of people in london are more work-wise. Acutally, feels their life are work-driven |
09:50.30 | Cope | but maybe i was lucky |
09:50.48 | Leeds | danip: that's the case for people here too - but it's also a really fun place to live |
09:52.01 | danip | And wich are your long-term plans leeds? :D |
09:52.14 | Leeds | at a very simple level - big party on Saturday night, which we started by jumping on a ferry across the harbour, then went to a hugely-expensive bar with a great harbour view |
09:52.24 | Leeds | long-term? I'm moving to Israel |
09:52.49 | danip | Really!!?? |
09:52.52 | Leeds | yes |
09:53.01 | SlayerXP | i'd avoid any country that has religion as it's chief export |
09:53.18 | danip | Man, that's not either work-friendly nor life-fliendly no? |
09:53.34 | Leeds | danip: both - lots of tech work there, and lots of nice single Jewish girls |
09:53.57 | danip | lots of bullents hanging around too.. |
09:54.07 | Leeds | a few |
09:54.27 | Leeds | things are obviously particularly bad at the moment... but it's been much better for most of the past decade |
09:55.50 | danip | Mm.. I'm just staying in London for a year, then back to Spain again. But If I had to go somewhere else, I'd go to Northern Europe. |
09:56.07 | Leeds | like... Norway? |
09:56.33 | danip | Had been in Norway 3 years ago, 15 days on August.. was nice. Peaceful. |
09:56.58 | SlayerXP | having just come back from living in norway for a year, I advise against it |
09:57.00 | danip | But I guess winter is too hard there. At least for an Spaniard like me :) |
09:57.12 | SlayerXP | nah, it only got down to -27 at my place. |
09:57.20 | danip | SlayerXP: Are you Martin? |
09:57.24 | SlayerXP | yes |
09:57.33 | Leeds | are you Martian? |
09:57.34 | SlayerXP | well, I'm _a_ Martin, there's loads of us about |
09:57.49 | danip | :) We xchanged a few mails about London, remember? |
09:58.04 | SlayerXP | oh yes |
09:58.09 | SlayerXP | you made it, then? |
09:58.18 | danip | Yep! here I am. |
09:58.48 | SlayerXP | my advise was at least partially correct, then :) |
09:59.02 | SlayerXP | advice |
09:59.15 | danip | Yep, was quite valuable. |
10:00.10 | danip | Things haven't been quite good actually. I read that you were back from Norway. How went the appliance mail project? |
10:00.54 | SlayerXP | the mail appliance went okay |
10:01.16 | SlayerXP | the spam/virus hosted filtering is going even better |
10:01.32 | SlayerXP | found it. you mailed me on feb 1st this year. |
10:01.52 | morsing | Check it! |
10:02.29 | SlayerXP | i like keeping mail |
10:02.37 | SlayerXP | it's nice to trip people up |
10:02.44 | danip | :) I think we came here on 1st of April. |
10:02.53 | SlayerXP | "Yes, but on march 27th 2001 you said.... therefore that makes you a big fat liar" |
10:03.55 | danip | I remember emailing you not much before coming to London. Thats correct no? |
10:04.17 | SlayerXP | well, you mailed me Feb 1st |
10:04.37 | danip | And on March too? |
10:05.59 | SlayerXP | i just have two messages from you |
10:06.14 | SlayerXP | it's possible I'm missing some |
10:06.29 | danip | Wich date? I remember one was asking for flat things.. |
10:06.40 | danip | We also talked about some mail hosting thing for you. |
10:07.05 | SlayerXP | both messages on the 1st |
10:07.15 | SlayerXP | danip: that turned in to http://www.antibodymx.net/ |
10:07.35 | danip | 1st of Feb? What did I say? |
10:08.02 | danip | Yep, I remember visiting that URL. |
10:08.36 | SlayerXP | " Hi Martin, I hope you don't mind if I make you a quick question :) |
10:08.36 | SlayerXP | <PROTECTED> |
10:08.36 | SlayerXP | <PROTECTED> |
10:08.46 | danip | Nice to know it's going good. Is it using an already existing FOSS antispam filter? |
10:09.09 | SlayerXP | it uses a combination of postgres, exim4, clamav and spamassassin |
10:09.18 | danip | Yep, I remember saying that! :)) On Feb? Wow.. time flies then! |
10:10.44 | SlayerXP | greylist=# select count(*) from domain_owners; |
10:10.44 | SlayerXP | <PROTECTED> |
10:10.44 | SlayerXP | ------- |
10:10.44 | SlayerXP | <PROTECTED> |
10:10.44 | SlayerXP | (1 row) |
10:10.45 | danip | And how is it that you're in the UK again? Too cold up there? |
10:11.00 | SlayerXP | didn't work out in norway. neither my partner nor I could get work |
10:11.15 | danip | Wow.. you relay 75 domains already? Then you forward the clean ones to their destination? |
10:11.20 | SlayerXP | basically, if you're not norwegian it's very very hard to get a job |
10:11.35 | SlayerXP | danip: exactly. |
10:11.37 | Leeds | SlayerXP: legal, language or exclusive reasons? |
10:11.59 | SlayerXP | Leeds: on average, norwegians are racist. |
10:12.29 | danip | wow.. Must have been hard. Specially with those HIGH prices they have. |
10:12.45 | SlayerXP | yep |
10:13.30 | danip | Didn't you think about moving a little in the south? Stockholm or something like that? |
10:15.21 | SlayerXP | yes |
10:15.35 | SlayerXP | i went to two interviews in Oslo. had I got the job we would have moved down there |
10:16.44 | danip | Olso is also very small. I thout it was going to be bigger. I Only spent there 2 days. |
10:17.12 | danip | What moved you to Norway, btw? |
10:18.04 | SlayerXP | danip: when I worked for Yahoo I spent several weeks working over there. |
10:18.07 | hali | fresh fish :) |
10:18.20 | hali | isn't that about the only good thing about norway? |
10:18.43 | danip | do yahoo have offices in Norway? |
10:18.50 | SlayerXP | yes |
10:19.04 | SlayerXP | they bought out a chunk of Fast Search & Transfer |
10:19.08 | SlayerXP | (including me) |
10:19.29 | SlayerXP | they definately have office in Trondheim, no idea where else |
10:20.57 | danip | Soo you liked it and wanted to try living there for a while? |
10:21.02 | SlayerXP | yep |
10:23.08 | danip | That's good. And wich plans do you have for the future? |
10:23.31 | SlayerXP | i'm on a stability drive |
10:23.39 | Leeds | austerity? |
10:23.46 | SlayerXP | i've taken a full time job which I hope to be doing for at least a few years |
10:24.00 | SlayerXP | and developing abmx on the side |
10:24.13 | SlayerXP | and you lot aren't helping. |
10:24.20 | SlayerXP | *j'accuse* |
10:24.25 | Leeds | SlayerXP: entertain me! |
10:24.51 | danip | SlayerXP: you're on footango, right? |
10:25.06 | SlayerXP | yup |
10:26.05 | danip | btw, how could we help wth abmx? |
10:26.34 | Leeds | danip: you are aware that abmx is a commercial product, not a free software project? |
10:26.47 | danip | yep. |
10:31.35 | danip | How many more people are with you with the abmx project? |
10:39.02 | morsing | Could someone please text Dan and tell him his server is down. I'm being spammed with "Server down" emils! |
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12:21.21 | morsing | Anyone manage to contact Dan? |
12:24.56 | SlayerXP | danip: there's two of us |
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12:33.31 | danip | SlayerXP: If you're comming on Saturday, I hope we can have a chat. I owe you a beer :) |
12:34.11 | SlayerXP | fair enough |
12:34.19 | SlayerXP | i may be, I think my partner is working |
12:35.02 | danip | mine too. So I'll be attending the meeting. It's not highly technical, but must be entertaining and interesting. |
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12:55.18 | JAV | good afternoon |
12:58.05 | morsing | JAV: |
12:58.06 | morsing | ! |
13:02.04 | danip | Hi JAV |
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13:22.22 | Leeds | so, I go to the pub, have a couple of pints, wander along the road to the curry house for a takeaway... and they're filming a Christmas scene from a movie outside it |
13:23.32 | Leeds | there is one person in a Santa costume and a bunch in Santa hats, hitting each other with balloons, while a load of people with still and moving cameras, and quite a few random onlookers, look on |
13:23.38 | George | hrmm |
13:23.44 | George | I have a confirmed booth at LWCE. |
13:24.32 | Leeds | and I have a dilemma... potential PHP job in HK |
13:26.29 | George | HAHAHAHA |
13:27.00 | Leeds | want job in HK! |
13:27.16 | George | web monkey! |
13:29.42 | George | hah |
13:29.59 | George | cope's machine is named mozrat? |
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13:30.35 | Leeds | yes |
13:32.29 | morsing | Cope! |
13:32.48 | morsing | George: You suck! |
13:32.56 | George | no, no I don't |
13:33.02 | George | I'm not a female |
13:41.45 | JAV | George, where will be LWCE? |
13:41.56 | George | London |
13:42.22 | z00dax | you |
13:42.23 | z00dax | guys |
13:42.23 | z00dax | speak |
13:42.24 | z00dax | too |
13:42.26 | z00dax | much |
13:43.03 | Leeds | s |
13:43.04 | Leeds | o |
13:43.05 | Leeds | r |
13:43.06 | Leeds | y |
13:43.41 | z00dax | lunch with a lot of pain ? |
13:44.07 | z00dax | meeting the wife for lunch or something ? |
13:44.07 | Leeds | z00dax: in a lot of pain, I think |
13:45.01 | JAV | Leeds, could be, yes ;) |
13:45.25 | Leeds | bloody foreigners, come in our IRC channel, can't even speak the language fluently... |
13:46.00 | JAV | I'm far from being fluent in engrish :D |
13:46.08 | George | Leeds: Leeds is practically foreign! |
13:46.16 | Leeds | if I try really hard, I may make it up to 20 characters of Chinese I can read before leaving |
13:46.17 | George | that said, I was born in .au |
13:46.28 | George | and raised in .hk, .tw, .kr and finally .uk |
13:46.36 | Leeds | George: did you get the letter to prove that you're not a convict? |
13:46.46 | George | ? |
13:46.56 | Leeds | that you're a Brit |
13:46.59 | George | I only know three characters of chinese |
13:47.02 | George | 1, 2 & 3 |
13:47.11 | George | Leeds: I've got a bloody passport. |
13:47.14 | Leeds | they're pretty damn easy |
13:47.17 | morsing | Check it! |
13:47.26 | Leeds | - and = are 1 and 2... 3 follows the pattern |
13:47.35 | George | Leeds: indeed |
13:47.45 | George | Leeds: I also know the character for "jhong" |
13:47.50 | George | Leeds: in mandarin, that is |
13:47.53 | morsing | George: Beer |
13:47.58 | George | Leeds: looks vaguely like a phi in greek |
13:48.31 | Leeds | uh, what is jhong? |
13:48.46 | George | tI have no idea |
13:48.54 | George | it's the first character in my hometown in Taiwan |
13:49.07 | Leeds | ah |
13:49.19 | Leeds | L is the first character of my hometown |
13:49.40 | George | loser |
13:49.42 | George | :P |
13:53.51 | morsing | R is the first character in my home town |
13:57.45 | George | morsing: you suck |
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14:20.39 | z00dax | ok, so on a freebsd machine - where might i find the apache config's ? |
14:20.58 | z00dax | to start with - how would i find out if apache is even installed ? |
14:23.24 | danip | find / -name httpd? |
14:23.29 | SlayerXP | telnet localhost 80 |
14:23.42 | SlayerXP | any then the config file could be literally anywhere :) |
14:24.01 | z00dax | SlayerXP: its not running, nothing on :80 |
14:24.01 | SlayerXP | /usr/local/etc/opt/local/etc/apace2/etc/httpd.conf |
14:24.06 | z00dax | nice |
14:24.25 | danip | find / -name httpd.conf? :) |
14:25.06 | z00dax | are you sure thats what its called on FreeBSD ? |
14:25.13 | SlayerXP | z00dax: the best thing to do is probably insert a debian install cd and reboot. follow the on-screen prompts and then "apt-get install apache2" |
14:25.23 | danip | :)) |
14:25.34 | z00dax | why would i want to make things worse ? |
14:25.53 | z00dax | might CentOS'ify it - but need a *nod* from elsewhere for that to happen |
14:26.43 | danip | why are you using freebsd, z00dax? |
14:27.17 | z00dax | danip: I am not, its using me at this time :) |
14:27.38 | z00dax | the machine was already setup with freebsd, and has been for a while. not my fault! |
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14:28.30 | Leeds | and I find it hard to communicate without being sarcastic :-) |
14:28.40 | z00dax | start using expanded smileys |
14:28.45 | z00dax | *smile* |
14:28.50 | z00dax | *sarcastic twist* |
14:31.58 | Leeds | can't waste the bytes in an SMS! |
14:32.58 | rhowe | "come over for a shower" |
14:33.58 | Leeds | nah, that was Maisie |
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14:35.41 | rhowe | OK, so how's this for a deal from an ISP? |
14:36.07 | Cope | what's the nifty trick for tarring a dir with 10000000000000000000s of files in it? like having to use xargs or some such? |
14:36.16 | rhowe | Bonded ADSLMax, plus a 2Mbit/s leased line with a /24 of public address space on the leased line (with BGP failover to the ADSL) and a /28 on the ADSLMax too |
14:36.31 | rhowe | Cope: tar .? |
14:37.37 | Cope | find . | cpio -ocB >$CPIOFILE |
14:37.42 | Cope | or something like that |
14:37.55 | rhowe | cpio I have never used |
14:38.14 | rhowe | find is usually nicer when used with -print0, but I don't know if cpio can handle \0 terminated filenames |
14:47.30 | rhowe | ibot change 8100 gbp to nok |
14:47.36 | rhowe | ibot change 1050 gbp to nok |
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14:55.52 | morsing | huw-l! |
14:55.56 | morsing | rhowe! |
14:56.05 | huw-l | afternoon |
14:56.33 | Leeds | mozring! |
14:59.53 | rhowe | Henrik |
15:16.41 | morsing | rhowe: Me and a friend enjoyed the Chimay last night with a BBQ. Nice :) |
15:17.05 | morsing | http://www.chimay.be/ |
15:17.30 | morsing | rhowe: Why are you ignoring me? |
15:17.34 | JAV | good beer |
15:23.22 | antiphase | Urine samples |
15:24.38 | Cope | Dear IBM, FFS put a decent shell on your system by default! Jesus wept! Thanks, S. |
15:24.43 | boudiccas | antiphase; msu? |
15:25.44 | cpufreak | Cope: whats wrong with csh? |
15:27.01 | morsing | Cope: Nothing wrong with ksh |
15:27.26 | SlayerXP | ....that's typing "bash" doesn't fix |
15:28.07 | danip | :) |
15:33.04 | rhowe | morsing: heh, glad to hear it |
15:33.22 | rhowe | morsing: I bought a bottle of gueuze at the same time and it exploded all over the lounge :P |
15:40.06 | Cope | morsing: ksh93 is fine; ksh88 is horrid |
16:04.16 | Leeds | alright, brushing teeth and bed... |
16:07.23 | Leeds | sabinef72: your beer? |
16:07.36 | sabinef72 | well almost my favorite |
16:08.02 | antiphase | It's not real beer |
16:09.47 | sabinef72 | lol |
16:09.48 | sabinef72 | why ? |
16:13.11 | Leeds | well, a couple of pints on an empty stomach is quite noticeable |
16:13.27 | Leeds | hence zzzzzzzz - night all |
16:14.32 | sabinef72 | a couple of pints ????? |
16:14.37 | sabinef72 | my god it's too much |
16:18.06 | antiphase | Hoegaarden hasn't really got beery type ingredients in it, and does have herb and fruit adulterants. I liken drinking it to consuming the urine of a career sausage-eater with a urinary tract infection. |
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16:22.12 | boudiccas | i like Shepherd Neames 'Spitfire' |
16:22.28 | cpufreak | its alright |
16:22.37 | cpufreak | its ad campaign is better than its taste tho |
16:23.00 | antiphase | It's fairly average, but pleasant enough |
16:23.09 | boudiccas | never seen its ad campaign [I'm not that old :o] |
16:23.16 | cpufreak | its ad campaign is still ongoing |
16:23.40 | boudiccas | oh! haven't seen any ads for it, but then I haven't got a tv |
16:24.01 | cpufreak | http://www.spitfireale.co.uk/advertising/ad52004th.gif |
16:24.07 | cpufreak | they're not on tv |
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16:24.30 | cpufreak | http://www.spitfireale.co.uk/advertising/press2005.htm |
16:25.37 | boudiccas | bit anti-german aren't they :) |
16:26.07 | antiphase | They're meant to have a new comic-based one, that's equally as anti-Teutonic. We won the war, after all. |
16:27.52 | boudiccas | I found Theakston's 'Old Peculiar' to be a bit thick and treacly when I tried it a few years ago |
16:28.15 | antiphase | That's more mild than bitter |
16:36.24 | Erwin | Double chocolate stout :) |
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16:41.45 | eyore | my robotic vacuum cleaner has arrived, but it's still charging. |
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19:07.36 | George | take a drink - and you'll sink - to a state of pure inebriation |
19:07.48 | George | you'll be tanked like the whole irish nation |
19:10.01 | cpufreak | go inject yourelse with heroin instead. |
19:33.24 | JAV | finally I've found the source of fatal segfaults in my desktop computer |
19:33.53 | JAV | after *lots* of testing the winner is..... the keyboard |
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19:50.29 | goblimey | sabinef72, are you here ? |
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20:07.44 | goblimey | evidently not |
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21:19.34 | benoit | hello |
21:34.00 | sabinef72 | good night |
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23:10.03 | George | wethrin: PHOTOS |
23:10.52 | wethrin | Yeah, yeah. Does the FsPHPGallery do its thumbnail generation in parallel? |
23:11.37 | George | no idea |
23:11.47 | George | go ask Chris Howells who wrote it :P |
23:11.49 | George | I only hacked it |
23:11.52 | wethrin | You tested it :-P |
23:12.13 | wethrin | I put some photos up there, tried to load the directory, and the server crashed |
23:12.41 | George | hahahahahahaha |
23:12.46 | wethrin | Which I put down to running out of memory due to too many resizing operations happening at the same time |
23:12.52 | George | hahahahahahahaha |
23:12.56 | wethrin | Not actually bothering to read the source code :) |
23:13.01 | George | hahahahahahahahhaahahaha |
23:13.07 | wethrin | Your software sucks :-P |
23:13.09 | wethrin | Test it better |
23:13.15 | George | it's not mine |
23:13.28 | wethrin | yeah yeah |
23:13.31 | wethrin | :-P |
23:28.44 | Jasperw | hi, does anyone remember there being some law about how computers must be sold with an operating system? |
23:29.03 | George | Jasperw: no |
23:29.15 | George | Jasperw: iirc MS's OEM licence requires it |
23:29.17 | George | or something |
23:30.34 | wethrin | but there's no law about it |
23:31.14 | George | I think MS say that they're not allowed to sell a computer without an OS |
23:31.15 | George | so |
23:31.16 | George | blah |
23:31.53 | wethrin | The vendors lose their bulk licencing deals if they don't sell MS software |
23:32.03 | wethrin | But that's quite different from it being legal |
23:45.52 | Jasperw | i thought under microsoft new 11 (?) rules that they publish a flat volume licence price list, so that they can't do that any more. |
23:46.32 | Jasperw | the whole "Sell linux and we stop the volume license discount" thing was one of the reasons the EU slaped MS - it's how MS killed BeOS... |
23:47.16 | George | wethrin: PHOTOS |
23:47.34 | Jasperw | I think the only thing left is the "... recommends Microsoft Windows XP" you see scattered everywhere - microsoft gives you cash if you advertise them |
23:48.01 | Jasperw | but i don't think it's legal for them to stop you and "and linux" on the end. |
23:50.17 | Leeds | Jasperw: how many boxen? |
23:51.55 | Jasperw | I'm trying to get a laptop with: |
23:52.00 | Jasperw | screen bigger than 1024x768 |
23:52.05 | Jasperw | AMD Turion X2 |
23:52.09 | Jasperw | ATI graphics |
23:52.15 | Jasperw | preferably fairly small |
23:52.22 | Jasperw | and... |
23:52.25 | Jasperw | without windows |
23:52.49 | Jasperw | It looks like i can get a barebones laptop from saveastore/watford elec. but they are a bit dodgey |
23:53.19 | Jasperw | i can get a system from novatech, but just a normal turion, not an x2 (i want an x2 cos of the virtulisation stuff). |
23:55.26 | Leeds | one laptop? |
23:55.37 | Jasperw | yup |
23:55.43 | Jasperw | this would be v. nice: http://www.msicomputer.co.uk/products.aspx?product_id=703694&cat_id=390 |
23:55.47 | Jasperw | i like orange :P |
23:57.26 | Leeds | a) there are still not many turion x2 laptops out there |
23:58.10 | Leeds | b) if you want a single machine, no retailer is going to give a fsck what you want - if you're buying 100, or maybe even 10, they'll talk to you, otherwise they'll just sell you what they want to sell you |
23:58.26 | Jasperw | sure, but i can have fun trying :) |
23:58.49 | Leeds | there's a certain point where it gets beyond fun and into frustrating and a waste of time |
23:59.24 | Leeds | sorry - I've been looking at laptops recently, and I got cyncial |