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02:03.17 | Leeds | now, 10am is a civilised time to wake up |
05:44.17 | Leeds | ibot change 77 hkd to gbp |
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11:34.37 | mozrat | G'Morning |
11:36.04 | cpufreak | morning: n 1: the time period between dawn and noon; "I spent the morning running errands" [syn: {morn}, {morning time}, {forenoon}] |
11:36.11 | cpufreak | not morning |
11:36.11 | cpufreak | :) |
11:36.54 | mozrat | G'Afternoon |
11:37.04 | cpufreak | afternoon |
11:45.20 | mozrat | Howzit? |
11:45.48 | mozrat | taking refuge in the cafe |
11:46.15 | z00dax | hey mozrat, cpufreak |
11:47.20 | mozrat | hi z00dax |
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12:19.07 | formi | ulo! |
12:19.26 | z00dax | formi! |
12:21.33 | formi | hopefully I can remenber who all of you are |
12:21.59 | z00dax | I am the one with blond hair |
12:22.24 | formi | the inquisitive one from yesterday? |
12:22.42 | z00dax | i wasent there yesterday, i was at the meeting day before yesterday |
12:23.06 | formi | meeting on a friday? |
12:23.37 | z00dax | yes, i was at a meeting on friday! |
12:24.39 | formi | i didn't know about a meeting on friday, lonix maybe? |
12:32.27 | z00dax | it was a !$Geek $Friend's B'day bash |
12:36.33 | formi | ok |
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13:05.19 | zOOz | hi everyone |
13:05.41 | z00dax | zOOz: hello |
13:05.53 | zOOz | i need advice |
13:06.58 | z00dax | we all do |
13:07.59 | zOOz | at the moment i am looking for a job, i am from Lithuania, in UK i do not have any qualifications, i have experience in my country |
13:10.02 | zOOz | what i need to do, that UK employers would employ me? |
13:11.32 | zOOz | maybe i need any IT training or smth? |
13:27.43 | JohnDoe661 | zOOz: how many languages do you speak? how are your Linux skills on a scale between newbie and Guru ? |
13:28.59 | JohnDoe661 | zOOz: and most importantly: Why are you not at the LBW (or are you)? |
13:34.01 | mozrat | <PROTECTED> |
13:35.10 | mozrat | zOOz, you left without your beer yesterday! :-) |
13:46.09 | JohnDoe661 | mozrat: yep, starts today and lasts till next sunday |
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13:48.52 | JAV | good afternoon |
13:49.16 | mozrat | JohnDoe661 - I didn't know that |
13:49.27 | mozrat | where is it this time? |
13:49.42 | JohnDoe661 | lbw 2006: 13th-20th of August in Lithuania (see http://www.mkuncaitis.com/lbw06 << and >> Lietuviskai: http://www.akl.lt/naujienos/?id=naujiena_801) |
13:50.04 | mozrat | Cool |
13:50.06 | JohnDoe661 | I think the town is called Paluse. |
13:55.43 | JohnDoe661 | mozrat: if you are interested in channel #lbw are some of the participants.. |
13:59.43 | mozrat | thanks |
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14:18.18 | zOOz | JohnDoe661: i live in london at the moment |
14:19.01 | JohnDoe661 | zOOz: good start, thou expensive city.. Languages? |
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14:24.19 | zOOz | JohnDoe661: i speak in english and my native language |
14:25.36 | JohnDoe661 | how good are your linux skills? newbie, junior sysadmin, senior sysadmin, guru, developer, BOFH? |
14:27.37 | zOOz | senior sysadmin |
14:28.10 | zOOz | 4 years comercial linux/windows sysadmin |
14:28.13 | puckman | any FON users here? |
14:41.35 | goltor | bofh is teh pwn |
15:02.02 | mozrat | I understood the word "is" |
15:03.12 | mozrat | ibot bofh |
15:03.14 | ibot | i heard bofh is Bastard Operator From Hell - see http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/ |
15:03.25 | mozrat | ahh |
15:12.16 | goltor | (: |
15:16.06 | JohnDoe661 | off - > back to life! |
15:16.54 | Leeds | gadget window-shopping, then cinema, then coffee with a couple of friends, then up the Peak for a nice, but expensive, dinner |
15:18.00 | Leeds | so how did the meeting go yesterday? |
15:21.45 | z00dax | I missed it |
15:26.10 | Leeds | ooh, I'm thrashing |
15:26.51 | z00dax | time for a ram update |
15:28.10 | Leeds | got a gig of RAM and a gig of swap, and one firefox eating both of them |
15:29.18 | JAV | something is obviously wrong |
15:29.37 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
15:29.38 | Leeds | Mem: 1026240 152556 873684 0 576 41088 |
15:29.38 | Leeds | -/+ buffers/cache: 110892 915348 |
15:29.38 | Leeds | Swap: 1052216 90040 962176 |
15:30.03 | Leeds | that's after firefox closed - both swap and physical memory were essentially at 100% when I got in |
15:30.51 | Leeds | I do tend to leave lots and lots of tabs open - like maybe 50-70 |
15:37.47 | Leeds | okay, found one thing wrong... I turned off the pop-up blocker to try to get the online booking working at a local cinema (then ended up using IE over VNC to the office), and an autorefreshing page was opening a new tab every time it refreshed |
15:39.11 | z00dax | cant be good that |
15:39.42 | Leeds | particularly when each pop-up - i.e., tab - is just a flash file |
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15:50.26 | Leeds | evening mozzie |
15:50.49 | mozrat | hi Leeds |
15:51.02 | mozrat | meeting yesterday was so-so |
15:51.20 | mozrat | both the speakers were good but Greg had to cancel |
15:51.31 | mozrat | and the attendance wasnt stellar |
15:52.13 | mozrat | to be honest - i was fairly exhausted after my holiday... could have done with a day off |
15:56.03 | mozrat | but the speakers were good - thats the main thing |
15:56.17 | mozrat | im quite tempted to buy a GPS now |
15:56.20 | Leeds | hmm... |
15:56.35 | Leeds | I did mention that we didn't tend to have August meetings in the past |
15:57.01 | mozrat | yep :-) |
15:57.18 | mozrat | about 20-25 people came along |
15:58.13 | Leeds | honestly - and this isn't a complaint to you - there should really be a couple of hundred people coming to meetings |
15:59.21 | Leeds | I'm not sure why there isn't |
15:59.38 | mozrat | me either |
16:00.28 | mozrat | and I dont know how Dean manages to get so many for his events either |
16:01.48 | Leeds | combination between time, location, content, advertising and reputation, I think |
16:02.24 | mozrat | content is the killer |
16:03.04 | mozrat | oh, and when i got back from holiday.... no DSL |
16:03.07 | z00dax | mozrat: actually i think its just that not enough people know about the events / meets |
16:03.11 | mozrat | that was annoying |
16:03.53 | mozrat | bbl - son is waiting for a bath |
16:04.01 | Leeds | mozrat: well, Dean's stuff tends to be buzzword-related - it's about the cool web crap, rather than random Linux things |
16:11.01 | Leeds | and tonight's movie is... Airplane! |
16:11.21 | mozrat | Lets discuss this (meetings) tomorrow |
16:11.30 | mozrat | cant do it on a blackberry keyboard |
16:11.42 | Leeds | sure |
16:11.59 | Leeds | bedtime for me, anyway |
16:17.21 | mozrat | nn |
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16:34.21 | hali | nice thunderstorm... |
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21:18.54 | zOOz | does anyone knows good book about writing CV in IT? |
21:26.06 | puckman | evening |
21:26.56 | hali | book? |
21:27.02 | hali | just google for a few good examples |
21:27.13 | hali | besides, it jobs are are a dime a dussin in london |
21:33.56 | zOOz | hali: how to understand your last sentence? |
21:34.15 | cpufreak | s/dussin/dozen/ |
21:35.45 | hali | sorry yes |
21:36.08 | hali | zOOz: plenty of jobs... just take your pick... |
21:36.09 | zOOz | say it in other words, please |
21:36.23 | hali | im hiring :) |
21:36.27 | zOOz | but i found it difficult to find |
21:36.48 | hali | have you signed up to the usual sites? jobsearch.co.uk, monster etc? |
21:36.56 | zOOz | it is hard for me to find an IT job, i don't know why |
21:37.09 | hali | how much work experience do you have? |
21:37.20 | zOOz | hali: yes, but i think that my CV is piece of sh** |
21:37.32 | hali | google for examples... |
21:37.37 | zOOz | hali: i'm from Lithuania, now live in London |
21:38.11 | zOOz | hali: can i send you my CV to your email for your consideration? |
21:38.29 | hali | zOOz: sure, hampus.linden@gmail.com |
21:38.30 | zOOz | i only wonder your oppinion |
21:39.09 | hali | zOOz: have you worked in the uk before? .. so you have a NI number, bank accounts and all that? |
21:39.27 | hali | i remember it was quite difficult to get a bank account when i first moved here |
21:39.58 | zOOz | hali: I have bank account, full UK driving license |
21:41.08 | zOOz | hali: have you got my CV? |
21:41.22 | hali | yes, first of all.. sort out some of the grammatical errors... |
21:43.59 | hali | and you have "Backup systems: Citrix, TSM" ... |
21:44.09 | hali | since when is citrix a backup system? |
21:44.25 | zOOz | yeah, there are some mistakes |
21:44.38 | hali | and you may want to take out printer repairs ;) |
21:45.04 | hali | from the looks of it you have decent work experience before.. but lack any UK experience... |
21:45.29 | hali | you may want to consider some sucky support job or something like that here... stay in that job for 6 months to a year and then move on |
21:45.48 | hali | just so you have som UK work experience |
21:45.57 | zOOz | firstly i need a job in UK for UK experience ;-) |
21:46.52 | zOOz | i need any job in IT for any salary |
21:47.03 | JAV | what's the exact importance of UK experience? |
21:47.19 | hali | you can probably get a decent job if you have that... you can definatly get a quite crap job with a quite low salery to get that experience |
21:47.27 | hali | JAV: HR filtering |
21:47.49 | JAV | understood :) |
21:48.15 | hali | it is quite difficult for them to verify any previous jobs |
21:48.41 | hali | and you may be difficult to deal with in regards of tax forms and all that stuff... |
21:49.39 | JAV | I pondered going to uk last year, but a barcelona startup show interest on me, so I try it first |
21:50.48 | JAV | nothing sure anyway |
21:54.02 | zOOz | it is really hard to find a job in IT if you do not have experience in UK |
21:54.17 | hali | catch 22 |
21:54.28 | zOOz | 22? |
21:54.46 | hali | condition 1 depends on condition 2 and condition 2 depends on condition 1 |
21:58.11 | hali | zOOz: you may want to emphasize database work a bit more... and use a bit more silly phrases.. like "capacity planning", policy, "data management" |
22:02.38 | zOOz | hali: i am gonna read some book about that |
22:02.52 | zOOz | also about covering letters |
22:04.04 | zOOz | is any training or other stuff useful? |
22:04.38 | hali | not really.. not unless you get a higher level oracle, cisco, redhat, sun cert |
22:22.00 | zOOz | good night |
22:34.46 | JAV | nn |
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