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02:03.17Leedsnow, 10am is a civilised time to wake up
05:44.17Leedsibot change 77 hkd to gbp
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11:34.37mozratG'Morning
11:36.04cpufreakmorning:        n 1: the time period between dawn and noon; "I spent the morning running errands" [syn: {morn}, {morning time}, {forenoon}]
11:36.11cpufreaknot morning
11:36.11cpufreak:)
11:36.54mozratG'Afternoon
11:37.04cpufreakafternoon
11:45.20mozratHowzit?
11:45.48mozrattaking refuge in the cafe
11:46.15z00daxhey mozrat, cpufreak
11:47.20mozrathi z00dax
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12:19.07formiulo!
12:19.26z00daxformi!
12:21.33formihopefully I can remenber who all of you are
12:21.59z00daxI am the one with blond hair
12:22.24formithe inquisitive one from yesterday?
12:22.42z00daxi wasent there yesterday, i was at the meeting day before yesterday
12:23.06formimeeting on a friday?
12:23.37z00daxyes, i was at a meeting on friday!
12:24.39formii didn't know about a meeting on friday, lonix maybe?
12:32.27z00daxit was a !$Geek $Friend's B'day bash
12:36.33formiok
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13:05.19zOOzhi everyone
13:05.41z00daxzOOz: hello
13:05.53zOOzi need advice
13:06.58z00daxwe all do
13:07.59zOOzat the moment i am looking for a job, i am from Lithuania, in UK i do not have any qualifications, i have experience in my country
13:10.02zOOzwhat i need to do, that UK employers would employ me?
13:11.32zOOzmaybe i need any IT training or smth?
13:27.43JohnDoe661zOOz: how many languages do you speak? how are your Linux skills on a scale between newbie and Guru ?
13:28.59JohnDoe661zOOz: and most importantly: Why are you not at the LBW (or are you)?
13:34.01mozrat<PROTECTED>
13:35.10mozratzOOz, you left without your beer yesterday! :-)
13:46.09JohnDoe661mozrat: yep, starts today and lasts till next sunday
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13:48.52JAVgood afternoon
13:49.16mozratJohnDoe661 - I didn't know that
13:49.27mozratwhere is it this time?
13:49.42JohnDoe661lbw 2006: 13th-20th of August in Lithuania (see http://www.mkuncaitis.com/lbw06 << and >> Lietuviskai: http://www.akl.lt/naujienos/?id=naujiena_801)
13:50.04mozratCool
13:50.06JohnDoe661I think the town is called Paluse.
13:55.43JohnDoe661mozrat: if you are interested in channel #lbw are some of the participants..
13:59.43mozratthanks
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14:18.18zOOzJohnDoe661: i live in london at the moment
14:19.01JohnDoe661zOOz: good start, thou expensive city.. Languages?
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14:24.19zOOzJohnDoe661: i speak in english and my native language
14:25.36JohnDoe661how good are your linux skills? newbie, junior sysadmin, senior sysadmin, guru, developer, BOFH?
14:27.37zOOzsenior sysadmin
14:28.10zOOz4 years comercial linux/windows sysadmin
14:28.13puckmanany FON users here?
14:41.35goltorbofh is teh pwn
15:02.02mozratI understood the word "is"
15:03.12mozratibot bofh
15:03.14iboti heard bofh is Bastard Operator From Hell - see http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/
15:03.25mozratahh
15:12.16goltor(:
15:16.06JohnDoe661off - > back to life!
15:16.54Leedsgadget window-shopping, then cinema, then coffee with a couple of friends, then up the Peak for a nice, but expensive, dinner
15:18.00Leedsso how did the meeting go yesterday?
15:21.45z00daxI missed it
15:26.10Leedsooh, I'm thrashing
15:26.51z00daxtime for a ram update
15:28.10Leedsgot a gig of RAM and a gig of swap, and one firefox eating both of them
15:29.18JAVsomething is obviously wrong
15:29.37Leeds<PROTECTED>
15:29.38LeedsMem:       1026240     152556     873684          0        576      41088
15:29.38Leeds-/+ buffers/cache:     110892     915348
15:29.38LeedsSwap:      1052216      90040     962176
15:30.03Leedsthat's after firefox closed - both swap and physical memory were essentially at 100% when I got in
15:30.51LeedsI do tend to leave lots and lots of tabs open - like maybe 50-70
15:37.47Leedsokay, found one thing wrong... I turned off the pop-up blocker to try to get the online booking working at a local cinema (then ended up using IE over VNC to the office), and an autorefreshing page was opening a new tab every time it refreshed
15:39.11z00daxcant be good that
15:39.42Leedsparticularly when each pop-up - i.e., tab - is just a flash file
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15:50.26Leedsevening mozzie
15:50.49mozrathi Leeds
15:51.02mozratmeeting yesterday was so-so
15:51.20mozratboth the speakers were good but Greg had to cancel
15:51.31mozratand the attendance wasnt stellar
15:52.13mozratto be honest - i was fairly exhausted after my holiday... could have done with a day off
15:56.03mozratbut the speakers were good - thats the main thing
15:56.17mozratim quite tempted to buy a GPS now
15:56.20Leedshmm...
15:56.35LeedsI did mention that we didn't tend to have August meetings in the past
15:57.01mozratyep :-)
15:57.18mozratabout 20-25 people came along
15:58.13Leedshonestly - and this isn't a complaint to you - there should really be a couple of hundred people coming to meetings
15:59.21LeedsI'm not sure why there isn't
15:59.38mozratme either
16:00.28mozratand I dont know how Dean manages to get so many for his events either
16:01.48Leedscombination between time, location, content, advertising and reputation, I think
16:02.24mozratcontent is the killer
16:03.04mozratoh, and when i got back from holiday.... no DSL
16:03.07z00daxmozrat: actually i think its just that not enough people know about the events / meets
16:03.11mozratthat was annoying
16:03.53mozratbbl - son is waiting for a bath
16:04.01Leedsmozrat: well, Dean's stuff tends to be buzzword-related - it's about the cool web crap, rather than random Linux things
16:11.01Leedsand tonight's movie is... Airplane!
16:11.21mozratLets discuss this (meetings) tomorrow
16:11.30mozratcant do it on a blackberry keyboard
16:11.42Leedssure
16:11.59Leedsbedtime for me, anyway
16:17.21mozratnn
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16:34.21halinice thunderstorm...
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21:18.54zOOzdoes anyone knows good book about writing CV in IT?
21:26.06puckmanevening
21:26.56halibook?
21:27.02halijust google for a few good examples
21:27.13halibesides, it jobs are are a dime a dussin in london
21:33.56zOOzhali: how to understand your last sentence?
21:34.15cpufreaks/dussin/dozen/
21:35.45halisorry yes
21:36.08halizOOz: plenty of jobs... just take your pick...
21:36.09zOOzsay it in other words, please
21:36.23haliim hiring :)
21:36.27zOOzbut i found it difficult to find
21:36.48halihave you signed up to the usual sites? jobsearch.co.uk, monster etc?
21:36.56zOOzit is hard for me to find an IT job, i don't know why
21:37.09halihow much work experience do you have?
21:37.20zOOzhali: yes, but i think that my CV is piece of sh**
21:37.32haligoogle for examples...
21:37.37zOOzhali: i'm from Lithuania, now live in London
21:38.11zOOzhali: can i send you my CV to your email for your consideration?
21:38.29halizOOz: sure, hampus.linden@gmail.com
21:38.30zOOzi only wonder your oppinion
21:39.09halizOOz: have you worked in the uk before? .. so you have a NI number, bank accounts and all that?
21:39.27halii remember it was quite difficult to get a bank account when i first moved here
21:39.58zOOzhali: I have bank account, full UK driving license
21:41.08zOOzhali: have you got my CV?
21:41.22haliyes, first of all.. sort out some of the grammatical errors...
21:43.59haliand you have "Backup systems: Citrix, TSM" ...
21:44.09halisince when is citrix a backup system?
21:44.25zOOzyeah, there are some mistakes
21:44.38haliand you may want to take out printer repairs ;)
21:45.04halifrom the looks of it you have decent work experience before.. but lack any UK experience...
21:45.29haliyou may want to consider some sucky support job or something like that here... stay in that job for 6 months to a year and then move on
21:45.48halijust so you have som UK work experience
21:45.57zOOzfirstly i need a job in UK for UK experience ;-)
21:46.52zOOzi need any job in IT for any salary
21:47.03JAVwhat's the exact importance of UK experience?
21:47.19haliyou can probably get a decent job if you have that... you can definatly get a quite crap job with a quite low salery to get that experience
21:47.27haliJAV: HR filtering
21:47.49JAVunderstood :)
21:48.15haliit is quite difficult for them to verify any previous jobs
21:48.41haliand you may be difficult to deal with in regards of tax forms and all that stuff...
21:49.39JAVI pondered going to uk last year, but a barcelona startup show interest on me, so I try it first
21:50.48JAVnothing sure anyway
21:54.02zOOzit is really hard to find a job in IT if you do not have experience in UK
21:54.17halicatch 22
21:54.28zOOz22?
21:54.46halicondition 1 depends on condition 2 and condition 2 depends on condition 1
21:58.11halizOOz: you may want to emphasize database work a bit more... and use a bit more silly phrases.. like "capacity planning", policy, "data management"
22:02.38zOOzhali: i am gonna read some book about that
22:02.52zOOzalso about covering letters
22:04.04zOOzis any training or other stuff useful?
22:04.38halinot really.. not unless you get a higher level oracle, cisco, redhat, sun cert
22:22.00zOOzgood night
22:34.46JAVnn
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