| 00:12.48 | rhowe | How convenient they were lined up with that runway :) |
| 00:25.46 | rhowe | whoah |
| 00:25.47 | rhowe | Audition on Film4 |
| 00:25.53 | rhowe | awesome film |
| 00:50.54 | z00dax | is it just me or are all the terrorists acting all over the world based out of pakistan ? |
| 00:51.30 | z00dax | and use american gear and are trained by ex american army rangers |
| 00:51.42 | z00dax | always amuses me |
| 00:54.45 | rhowe | OK, now that's a bizarre FreeCycle request: Aug 26 stefnik2002 ( 32) [FreeCycleLondon] Wanted Cr0 SIZE 12 Wedding dress |
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| 06:18.04 | morsing | 'morning |
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| 07:13.54 | Leeds | hello? any early-morning people around? |
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| 08:41.06 | mozrat | morning |
| 09:05.59 | sabinef72 | morning |
| 09:30.45 | sabinef72 | Leeds !!!!!! |
| 09:30.47 | sabinef72 | still here ? |
| 09:30.54 | sabinef72 | sorry I was out yesterday |
| 10:11.03 | Leeds | I'm in London :-) |
| 10:11.37 | Leeds | one of my neighbours is very kindly - and I assume unintenionally - allowing my to share their internet connection |
| 10:11.57 | sabinef72 | good neighbourg |
| 10:12.24 | Leeds | unsecured wifi++ |
| 10:14.12 | rhowe | Leeds: convenient. Coming to the notting hill carnival? |
| 10:14.25 | Leeds | uh, probably not... is it today? |
| 10:14.37 | rhowe | today+tommorrow |
| 10:14.50 | Leeds | well, since I'm leaving town again tonight, it would have to be today... |
| 10:28.12 | sabinef72 | well I must go now ! see you all in 3 weeks ! |
| 10:28.21 | sabinef72 | bisous mozrat !!!!!!! |
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| 10:38.08 | arika-chan | :) |
| 10:38.13 | arika-chan | Leeds is in nodnol :o |
| 10:39.13 | Leeds | yes |
| 10:39.55 | Leeds | popping to Brent Cross for lunch from Hong Kong would be a rather odd thing to do |
| 10:44.25 | arika-chan | hehe |
| 10:45.37 | Leeds | on the other hand, I could just fall asleep on my sofa |
| 10:47.05 | Leeds | no, I'm going out... |
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| 10:48.40 | arika-chan | ah :) |
| 10:48.42 | arika-chan | have fun! |
| 10:48.46 | arika-chan | SlayerXP! |
| 10:48.54 | SlayerXP | afternoon |
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| 11:24.32 | SlayerXP | rhowe: debian, exim4 and cyrus, I hope. |
| 11:27.48 | rhowe | debian, exim4 and dovecot |
| 11:27.57 | rhowe | Thought I'd try a different IMAP server |
| 11:28.39 | rhowe | # lvcreate -L 500M -n lvEximSpool vgMail Insufficient allocatable logical extents (0) for logical volume lvEximSpool: 1 |
| 11:28.43 | rhowe | 25 required |
| 11:28.44 | rhowe | o.O |
| 11:28.53 | rhowe | There's 4G free in the VG |
| 11:33.01 | SlayerXP | lvdisplay |
| 11:33.41 | SlayerXP | or is it lvscan |
| 11:33.50 | SlayerXP | one gives you a summary of what's left |
| 11:35.22 | rhowe | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:35.31 | rhowe | That's from vgdisplay |
| 11:36.02 | rhowe | # pvs;lvs PV VG Fmt Attr PSize PFree /dev/md0 vgMail lvm2 -- 8.47G 4.47G LV VG Attr LSize Origin Snap% Move Copy% lvHome vgMail -wi-ao 4.00G |
| 11:36.19 | rhowe | hm, that didn't display so well |
| 11:36.45 | SlayerXP | it's complaining about LEs not PEs |
| 11:37.34 | SlayerXP | lvm on top of software raid? yuck :) |
| 11:37.47 | SlayerXP | LVM striping would be better, imo |
| 11:38.00 | rhowe | It's a pair of SCA drives |
| 11:38.33 | SlayerXP | same fuctionality, less voodoo |
| 11:41.15 | rhowe | hm.. I don't see how striping offers mirroring |
| 11:41.28 | rhowe | md0 is RAID1 |
| 11:42.36 | rhowe | I know there's dm-mirror, but does that allow for rebuilds in the event of a failed drive? |
| 11:42.48 | rhowe | I wouldn't trust these drives as far as I could throw the alpha they're in |
| 11:42.53 | rhowe | (and it's not light :) |
| 11:47.56 | SlayerXP | throw it away, buy some proper hardware instead |
| 11:57.46 | rhowe | No cash, no credit :) |
| 12:02.36 | rhowe | I've got a stack of SCA drives I want to work through |
| 12:02.43 | rhowe | Once they're all gone, I'll get something decent |
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| 12:08.51 | rhowe | LeedsHK: Breakfasted? |
| 12:12.23 | LeedsHK | lunched |
| 12:17.59 | z00dax | Leeds: hola amigo |
| 12:18.12 | z00dax | do we have a meetup scheduled for when you are in l0nd0n town ? |
| 12:20.24 | Leeds | well... I'll be in town for SFD, but there should be a social gathering or two as well |
| 12:21.44 | z00dax | cool. I look forward to meeting up this time |
| 12:22.03 | Leeds | indeed |
| 12:22.14 | rhowe | heh |
| 12:22.27 | rhowe | ... the one I paid 2 weeks ago |
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| 13:43.58 | Erwin | Hehe. Those Microsoft training videos with Ricky Gervais are great |
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| 13:46.21 | boudiccas | morsing! |
| 13:46.52 | arika-chan | boudiccas! |
| 13:47.26 | boudiccas | arika-chan! |
| 13:47.44 | arika-chan | =) |
| 13:50.11 | Leeds | okay, rental car booked, with expat discount, for when I get back from Spain |
| 13:51.25 | Leeds | hmm... I appear to be bouncy |
| 13:52.51 | arika-chan | boing boing :) |
| 13:53.23 | Leeds | can't really complain, since I'm stealing bandwidth |
| 13:54.57 | boudiccas | tie Leeds down! |
| 13:55.12 | arika-chan | roger! |
| 13:56.44 | boudiccas | who's roger? |
| 13:56.59 | boudiccas | Roger Leeds? |
| 13:57.23 | Leeds | didn't he write the thesaurus? |
| 13:58.00 | boudiccas | yes, and invented a flag too |
| 13:58.16 | Leeds | a jolly fellow, he was |
| 14:16.56 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 14:19.29 | Leeds | hola |
| 14:47.23 | boudiccas | I am running backuppc as one of my backup programs, and have added the lines ;- |
| 14:47.23 | boudiccas | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 14:47.25 | boudiccas | User backuppc |
| 14:47.25 | boudiccas | Group backuppc |
| 14:47.25 | boudiccas | to /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf. Backuppc works well. However, this appears to have nuked my wikis that I'm running on this box. How can I run them as user as before i installed backuppc please? |
| 14:54.57 | antiphase | Use suexec and specify User and Group per virtual host |
| 14:55.13 | antiphase | b) Don't run Apache as a stupid backup user in the first place |
| 14:55.31 | antiphase | c) chown/chgrp all your wiki files to the Apache user instead |
| 14:56.02 | antiphase | (or whetever user/group was used previously by Apache) |
| 15:22.33 | Leeds | so my mum apparently had her lighter taken off her before getting on a plane this morning... for some reason, the fact that she was travelling with a container of highly-flammable liquid didn't cross her mind |
| 15:23.04 | trousers_ | Leeds: Err... |
| 15:23.36 | trousers_ | Also, how the hell do I fix a PHP error on line 0? |
| 15:23.39 | George | hi |
| 15:24.09 | Leeds | trousers_: stop using PHP. next question? |
| 15:24.24 | trousers_ | What's wrong with PHP? |
| 15:24.45 | Leeds | how long have you got? |
| 15:24.54 | trousers_ | Until September 6th |
| 15:25.52 | Leeds | I meant, how long have you got to listen to my rants about php? :-) |
| 15:26.05 | trousers_ | Until September 6th# |
| 15:26.25 | trousers_ | What do suggest instead of PHP? |
| 15:26.46 | Leeds | python |
| 15:26.47 | Leeds | ruby |
| 15:26.53 | Leeds | bash :-) |
| 15:27.33 | Leeds | but mainly python |
| 15:27.44 | antiphase | Perl. Anything but PHP |
| 15:28.06 | Leeds | antiphase: note me not suggesting perl... but yes, it's better than php |
| 15:31.32 | trousers_ | How do you execute bash/python through a web browser? |
| 15:32.36 | Leeds | cgi? mod_python? an app server? |
| 15:32.38 | antiphase | Unless someon invented mod_python yet (not sure, I don't use it), as CGI scripts |
| 15:32.53 | Leeds | there is mod_python, of course... but I quite like cherrypy |
| 15:33.24 | trousers_ | Arf, MySQL is so simple through PHP though... Well, it's simple in esscence, anyway |
| 15:33.56 | Leeds | oh dear, oh dear... php *and* mysql? :-) |
| 15:34.43 | trousers_ | What do you suggest instead of MySQL then? |
| 15:34.57 | Leeds | postgres or sqlite, depending on whether you want to go more or less serious |
| 15:35.54 | Leeds | I like sqlite, myself |
| 15:35.58 | trousers_ | Also, if PHP is so bad, then why is it used on the GLLUG site? |
| 15:36.07 | Leeds | blame mozrat :-) |
| 15:36.37 | trousers_ | Well, python seems fairly simple from what I've read... |
| 15:37.09 | Leeds | start with the tutorial on python.org |
| 15:37.39 | George | C++!C++!C++! |
| 15:37.49 | Leeds | also, join #python :-) |
| 15:38.16 | George | qt/c++!qt/c++!qt/c++! |
| 15:38.39 | Leeds | pyqt is quite highly-regarded... I prefer pygtk, and wxpython seems interesting |
| 15:38.40 | trousers_ | C++ can be used in interface with a webserver? |
| 15:38.49 | George | possibly |
| 15:39.22 | trousers_ | Hmm, I'll just stick to php for the moment, I'm only doing a simple little blog :) |
| 15:40.00 | Leeds | I wrote a simple blog engine in cherrypy/sqlite in a morning a few weeks ago |
| 15:40.38 | Leeds | just for the fun of it :-) |
| 15:40.46 | trousers_ | I alread have the engine, I just need to test a page, and it's giving me this evil error |
| 15:43.14 | trousers_ | Aha, fixed one error |
| 15:43.53 | trousers_ | Now instead of an error on line 0, there's an error on line 17, and the file is only 16 lines long |
| 15:45.13 | antiphase | That rather suggests a formatting error |
| 15:45.20 | Leeds | you haven't closed a tag |
| 15:45.50 | trousers_ | Ah, you are right :) |
| 15:46.08 | Leeds | and I am proud to say that I know almost no php :-) |
| 15:46.23 | antiphase | You know almost no thing ;) |
| 15:47.55 | Leeds | I've read a bunch of php, and barely survived |
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| 18:50.45 | mozrat | hi Nylex |
| 18:50.55 | mozrat | did you go to Lonix yesterday? I didn't meet you |
| 18:51.57 | mozrat | hello troll |
| 18:53.36 | Nylex | hi |
| 18:53.46 | Nylex | I felt ill, so ended up going back home before it started :( |
| 18:53.52 | mozrat | shame :( |
| 18:53.58 | Nylex | was it good? |
| 18:54.03 | mozrat | Yes - I think so |
| 18:54.09 | mozrat | I was only there for 1h 20m |
| 18:54.11 | George | mozrat: you arse |
| 18:54.21 | mozrat | but there were a lot of people |
| 18:54.34 | Nylex | was there enough space? |
| 18:54.39 | mozrat | nope :-) |
| 18:54.54 | Nylex | lol |
| 18:55.29 | Nylex | I should still make it to SFD though |
| 18:56.04 | mozrat | Good |
| 18:56.15 | Nylex | lol :) |
| 19:00.37 | trousers_ | If I turn up to the LUG on 16th, do I get a free T-Shirt? |
| 19:05.01 | mozrat | Ummm |
| 19:05.13 | mozrat | I'm not saying you won't... |
| 19:05.30 | mozrat | but if you did it would be some random coincidence |
| 19:05.35 | trousers_ | Oh |
| 19:05.45 | mozrat | like a T-Shirt giveaway across the road :-) |
| 19:06.07 | trousers_ | Oh, I didn't read it properly... Each team gets TWO FREE :( |
| 19:06.21 | mozrat | Ah right - yeah, and we didn't register in time |
| 19:06.43 | mozrat | and I think those two free t-shirts rely on an order of n more t-shirts |
| 19:06.53 | mozrat | which we don't have |
| 19:08.03 | trousers_ | So much smallprint for lovely free t-shirts |
| 19:08.10 | mozrat | yeah, I know |
| 19:08.36 | mozrat | I am trying to get GLLUG T-shirts organised but it isn't easy |
| 19:08.48 | mozrat | involves £Â$$$ |
| 19:09.02 | rhowe | mm, pasta |
| 19:11.23 | trousers_ | Is there some kind of football/rugby match going on or something? |
| 19:14.57 | rhowe | notting hill carnival? |
| 19:15.05 | trousers_ | Not next door... |
| 19:15.08 | Nylex | lol |
| 19:15.10 | rhowe | but yeah, the TV in the pub was showing some kind of game |
| 19:16.29 | trousers_ | Too loud -_- Why can't I ever have any peace from neighbours?! |
| 19:34.26 | mozrat | interesting error when mailing someone from gmail |
| 19:34.28 | mozrat | Technical details of permanent failure: |
| 19:34.29 | mozrat | PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 If you really are mozrat@gmail.com, then please use gmail's mail servers |
| 19:34.37 | mozrat | Erm, I am! |
| 19:34.58 | trousers_ | Imposter! |
| 19:35.02 | mozrat | I must be |
| 19:43.54 | trousers_ | And you thought that moustache would fool me... |
| 19:44.19 | mozrat | plus the fake nose and glasses |
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| 19:45.39 | trousers_ | Who are you? |
| 19:45.45 | Nylex | wb |
| 19:46.01 | mozrat | ta, I got my /server and /connect commands confused :-) |
| 19:46.40 | mozrat | Do so - it's no problem |
| 19:46.47 | Nylex | heh |
| 19:49.58 | Nylex | ah, it needs approval from the mods at LinuxQuestions.org before it can be added to the calendar |
| 19:52.49 | Nylex | oh and once I start at Imperial, I'll try to spread the word about GLLUG :) |
| 19:55.02 | mozrat | excellent |
| 19:55.06 | mozrat | is that this year? |
| 19:55.30 | mozrat | or - next month, even |
| 19:59.57 | George | die |
| 20:00.19 | mozrat | Hello George |
| 20:00.57 | trousers_ | George. why are you akwayso angry? |
| 20:01.00 | trousers_ | *always so |
| 20:01.55 | George | WHY NOT |
| 20:04.00 | trousers_ | Because, desptie popular belief, caps lock is *not* cruise control for cool... |
| 20:05.49 | Nylex | mozrat, in October :) |
| 20:07.12 | George | I HATE YOU ALL |
| 20:07.48 | Nylex | :/ |
| 20:09.35 | trousers_ | Hmm, my breasts are feeling very tender |
| 20:09.56 | trousers_ | Just need to cook this chicken a little bit longer... |
| 20:10.00 | Nylex | lol |
| 20:11.31 | trousers_ | Does anybody here go to DC4420? |
| 20:12.44 | George | NO |
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| 21:16.02 | George | hi arika-chan |
| 21:33.34 | zOOz | hello all |
| 21:35.24 | mozrat | hi |
| 21:35.59 | George | DEATH TO MOZRAT |
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| 21:59.09 | boudiccas | troll |
| 21:59.26 | George | yes |
| 21:59.28 | George | I am |
| 21:59.30 | George | you ass |
| 22:00.04 | boudiccas | George; i find you unnecessarily offensive! |
| 22:00.13 | George | yes |
| 22:00.43 | boudiccas | so deal with it |
| 22:01.14 | George | no |
| 22:01.36 | boudiccas | troll |
| 22:02.04 | George | indeed |
| 22:02.05 | George | you ass |
| 22:08.23 | trousers_ | George, if I said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me? |
| 22:09.05 | George | ... |
| 22:09.07 | George | DIE |
| 22:10.15 | trousers_ | Ohh, stop playing hard to get ;) |
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| 22:14.19 | George | who is trousers anyways |
| 22:25.55 | trousers_ | I am... |
| 22:26.45 | George | go to hell |
| 22:27.29 | trousers_ | Later. |
| 22:27.34 | George | NOW |
| 22:27.44 | trousers_ | LATER. |
| 23:17.20 | George | lalalalalalalalalalalala |