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| 08:12.04 | Blapto|Work | morning |
| 08:19.23 | Leeds | morning... you hear Steve Irwin was killed overnight? |
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| 08:25.43 | Gunde | Good morning |
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| 08:36.14 | Blapto|Work | I did |
| 08:36.23 | stephanb2 | yo wassup |
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| 08:50.48 | mozrat | Good Morning |
| 08:50.54 | mozrat | Leeds - Where for art thou? |
| 08:51.13 | LeedsHK | Hendon |
| 08:51.54 | mozrat | Cool! |
| 08:53.25 | LeedsHK | "He’s 39, single and lives in Battersea but George, above, is a chatbot" |
| 08:53.38 | LeedsHK | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2341457,00.html |
| 08:54.34 | mozrat | Wow - big shame about Steve Irwin |
| 08:54.39 | LeedsHK | yeah |
| 09:01.22 | mozrat | Oh dear - Steevs been 0w3nn3d again |
| 09:01.36 | mozrat | http://www.bluedust.com/blog/?view=plink&id=262 |
| 09:09.48 | LeedsHK | oops |
| 09:20.49 | mozrat | LeedsHK: so when are we seeing you? |
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| 10:39.23 | mozrat | popey: any news yet on the baby front? |
| 10:39.34 | mozrat | When are you releasing popey version 3? |
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| 10:43.44 | eyore | hey knowledgeable people |
| 10:44.07 | mozrat | Hello eyore! |
| 10:44.14 | eyore | is there anyway to permanently save values in proc or do i need to execute a script to reset them on boot? |
| 10:44.44 | eyore | i'm on fedora linux |
| 10:44.55 | eyore | hi mozrat |
| 10:45.15 | mozrat | eyore: /proc is a "psuedo-filesystem" so you need to do it via init scripts as far as I know |
| 10:45.20 | mozrat | which values are you trying to change? |
| 10:45.41 | eyore | /proc/sys/net/ipv4/neigh/default/gc_thresh 1 to 3 |
| 10:46.11 | eyore | somthing to do with the arp table overflowing |
| 10:46.25 | mozrat | common values like the "enable routing" value are set in certain scripts |
| 10:47.08 | mozrat | if that particular setting isn't covered elsewhere you could try adding `echo 3 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/neigh/default/gc_thresh` to the bottom of /etc/init.d/rc.local |
| 10:49.34 | eyore | is rc.local always executed on boot, i don't have a pre-existing one |
| 10:49.36 | mozrat | yay! I sound almost knowledgeable there! |
| 10:49.42 | eyore | incidentally, i actually meant there was three gc_thresh files rather than I wanted the value to be 3 |
| 10:49.52 | mozrat | eyore: ahh, I see |
| 10:49.53 | eyore | :) |
| 10:50.12 | mozrat | eyore: in Red Hat rc.local is a "all else" file that is executed after the rest of the init files |
| 10:50.19 | mozrat | it may not be in that directory - have a search for it |
| 10:50.25 | mozrat | I think you should have one in FC |
| 10:50.46 | mozrat | is it just in /etc ? |
| 10:50.51 | eyore | yes |
| 10:50.52 | eyore | thanks |
| 10:51.03 | mozrat | swheet! |
| 10:52.08 | eyore | just leaves the question "why is the machine crashing in the first place" now :) |
| 10:52.50 | mozrat | ahh - there is a proc setting called /proc/use_the_force_luke/make_my_machine_not_crash - Set that to 1 |
| 10:53.16 | eyore | it's nice that last now tells you when there was a crash |
| 10:53.20 | eyore | how long has it done that |
| 10:56.09 | mozrat | what does? |
| 10:56.17 | eyore | last |
| 10:56.33 | mozrat | wow - never seen that before |
| 10:57.02 | eyore | man last |
| 10:57.09 | popey | mozrat: no news yet :( |
| 10:59.05 | mozrat | eyore: thanks - thats very handy |
| 10:59.15 | mozrat | popey: you obviously aren't trying hard enough |
| 10:59.23 | mozrat | get her running up and down the stairs or something |
| 11:04.18 | mozrat | and tells her to go for a walk |
| 11:07.26 | popey | :) |
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| 11:24.30 | popey | :) |
| 11:26.06 | popey | oh why not! |
| 11:26.11 | popey | everyone else has had a go :) |
| 11:26.26 | popey | well, a dozen or so have |
| 11:26.29 | popey | it's utterly mental |
| 11:27.17 | mozrat | Yeah, but I won't poke the fire |
| 11:27.33 | LeedsHK | and... there goes the kitchen sink |
| 11:27.53 | popey | it'll go dead again, nothing will be done |
| 11:27.54 | popey | AGAIN |
| 11:28.08 | mozrat | *nod* |
| 11:28.27 | popey | which to be honest, is why I keep poking it |
| 11:28.31 | popey | I'm not going to let it drop |
| 11:28.32 | LeedsHK | new taps... |
| 11:31.14 | mozrat | LeedsHK: Shiny! |
| 11:40.33 | LeedsHK | yes, they are :-) |
| 11:55.29 | mozrat | popey: I can't even find the emails I want to reply to now |
| 11:59.06 | keithlard | hard drive died! |
| 11:59.34 | keithlard | stupid maxtors |
| 12:00.51 | popey | mozrat: hahah |
| 12:06.18 | stephanb2 | for some reason i can't explain, i only have faith in seagate and hitachi/ibm drives |
| 12:07.11 | stephanb2 | maybe because in my experience other drives have died |
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| 12:21.20 | huw-l | stephanb2: you missed out on the whole IBM deathstar thing then? |
| 12:27.06 | stephanb2 | huw-l: yes. also i don't work in a data centre. so the number of drives i've had in my hand is anecdotal. |
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| 12:46.33 | eyore | every drive i buy goes wrong |
| 12:46.51 | eyore | frequently i cause the whole make to go wrong |
| 12:47.01 | keithlard | aw |
| 12:47.13 | keithlard | i'm going for a RAID-1 this time |
| 12:47.26 | eyore | i've had a a non deathstar IBM drive died and quantum fireball that turned into a fireball and a maxtor go wrong |
| 12:47.26 | JAV | hello |
| 12:47.27 | stephanb2 | eyore worshipper of Shiva, the Destroyer of Hard Drives |
| 12:47.43 | eyore | the IBM drives ran soo hot |
| 12:48.09 | stephanb2 | eyore: hmm, i'm afr8d it's your responsibility to cool them :-( |
| 12:49.56 | eyore | yeah i tried blowing |
| 12:50.06 | eyore | then it fried and i sent it back |
| 12:50.45 | eyore | maxtor and IBM both have good exchange policies |
| 12:50.57 | eyore | i think they will both send you a new disc before they receive the old one |
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| 13:51.09 | cbz | eveningk |
| 13:52.13 | mozrat | hello! |
| 13:52.19 | cbz | hello morsing |
| 13:52.37 | mozrat | HI MORSING (whereever you are) |
| 13:53.03 | mozrat | cbz: Did the tab complete get me again? |
| 13:53.17 | cbz | hello mozrat |
| 13:53.20 | cbz | sorry :) |
| 13:53.23 | cbz | No, my eyes got you :) |
| 13:53.32 | mozrat | :-) |
| 14:27.46 | boudiccas | I see that Steve Goodwin has had his blog defaced again :( |
| 14:32.24 | mozrat | boudiccas: yeah :( |
| 14:34.05 | cbz | php hole? |
| 14:35.53 | mozrat | cbz: I'm guessing so |
| 14:36.03 | mozrat | It would be easy to mock but I dread it happening to me |
| 14:37.45 | cbz | fancy that |
| 14:37.51 | cbz | whoddavethunk |
| 14:48.03 | boudiccas | cbz; who's 'dave'? and what's he 'thunking' about? :) |
| 14:49.20 | phearless | good afternoon, londoners |
| 14:49.42 | boudiccas | phearless; that counts me out then :))) |
| 14:50.03 | phearless | ok so good morning just for you :) |
| 14:50.28 | boudiccas | phearless; still afternoon :) its just that I'm not in London :))) |
| 14:52.07 | phearless | ah I thought that as9105.com was an US ISP |
| 14:52.16 | phearless | in fact it seems that it is tiscaliUK |
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| 15:19.18 | mozrat | boudiccas: I whizzed past Maidstone on Saturday en route to Ashford |
| 15:19.23 | mozrat | I waved out the window at you - did you see? |
| 15:37.51 | boudiccas | fraid not. I live in a basement flat, so anything above ground level [except for the sky] I don't see :( |
| 15:37.51 | keithlard | ibot seen z00dax |
| 15:38.11 | ibot | z00dax is currently on #gllug. Has said a total of 60 messages. Is idling for 1d 18h 24m 32s, last said: 'ashurst even '. |
| 15:38.26 | boudiccas | keithlard; i've got a suspicion that z00dax was moving over the weekend |
| 15:38.39 | keithlard | humm |
| 15:38.50 | keithlard | also it is his birthday today :) |
| 15:38.52 | boudiccas | what tune? |
| 15:39.11 | boudiccas | obviously 'Happy Birthday' then :)))) |
| 15:56.18 | wethrin | happy birthday, keithlard |
| 15:56.22 | wethrin | Errr |
| 15:56.24 | wethrin | no |
| 15:56.26 | wethrin | z00dax, even |
| 15:59.04 | keithlard | titter |
| 15:59.09 | keithlard | well thanks :) |
| 15:59.35 | wethrin | keithlard: Will you be at Gllug next Satterday? |
| 16:14.28 | keithlard | ooh |
| 16:14.33 | keithlard | i do not know |
| 16:15.49 | keithlard | if someone i know is going probably |
| 16:23.25 | LeedsHK | I intend to be there |
| 16:23.52 | LeedsHK | the meeting, that is, not Cambridge :-) |
| 16:26.57 | keithlard | ooh intresting |
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| 17:06.17 | wethrin | LeedsHK: That's wise. No one should intend to be in Cambridge |
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| 17:28.23 | LeedsHK | could be worse... could be Oxford |
| 17:28.40 | JAV | hello |
| 17:29.22 | keithlard | hola jav que tal? |
| 17:30.18 | JAV | muy bien keithlard :D |
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| 17:33.24 | JAV | happy birthday keithlard |
| 17:34.00 | keithlard | muchas gracias! |
| 17:34.10 | keithlard | pero no esta mi cumpleaños |
| 17:34.39 | keithlard | es lo de z00dax! |
| 17:35.08 | JAV | oopps |
| 17:35.23 | JAV | happy birthday z00dax ! :D |
| 17:47.46 | JAV | + |
| 17:57.34 | wethrin | JAV: They're very similar. It's easy to get them confused. Bit like mozrat and morsing |
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| 18:01.30 | JAV | wethrin: true :D |
| 18:01.47 | JAV | I'm so tired I can't barely read |
| 18:02.38 | JAV | I should have went earlier to bed yesterday |
| 18:02.58 | wethrin | do it today, then |
| 18:03.42 | JAV | I'll do, this is going to be a hard week |
| 18:04.35 | JAV | how is pronounced "Jajszczyk"? :P |
| 18:06.01 | boudiccas | with extreme difficulty :) |
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| 18:07.55 | wethrin | yai-sh-ch-ik |
| 18:09.13 | JAV | boudiccas: we use this joke here too :D |
| 18:09.25 | boudiccas | :) |
| 18:09.53 | JAV | wethrin: thanks |
| 18:10.07 | LeedsHK | gregj is the guy to ask, but he's away |
| 18:10.19 | wethrin | Or pawel, if he's on |
| 18:10.31 | LeedsHK | indeed - I've not seen him for a while though |
| 18:11.13 | wethrin | true. And didn't we have a third one somewhere? |
| 18:11.22 | LeedsHK | rdancer? |
| 18:11.25 | LeedsHK | ufo? |
| 18:11.30 | wethrin | ufo |
| 18:11.41 | wethrin | Who is still lurking around :) |
| 18:11.50 | LeedsHK | all Eastern Europeans are the same, really, so rdancer counts :-) |
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| 18:12.02 | wethrin | *thhpt* |
| 18:12.10 | LeedsHK | incidentally, while I was away, London appears to have turned into a Polish city... |
| 18:12.28 | wethrin | LeedsHK: Yes. Yes it has |
| 18:12.35 | wethrin | And it used to be just select bits, too |
| 18:12.46 | LeedsHK | not that it's a bad thing - but it happened pretty quickly |
| 18:14.32 | wethrin | true |
| 18:16.32 | gregj | JAV: yayshcheek |
| 18:17.48 | JAV | gregj: thanks! |
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| 19:23.48 | wethrin | is this a good thing? |
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| 19:35.14 | ufo_ | Leeds wethrin ? |
| 19:35.18 | ufo_ | Hello all |
| 19:35.20 | wethrin | Hi ufo! |
| 19:35.37 | ufo_ | Hello, |
| 19:35.40 | ufo_ | What's up? |
| 19:35.56 | ufo_ | Someone ask for me? |
| 19:37.49 | wethrin | No, we were merely investigating the Polish population of #gllug |
| 19:39.53 | ufo_ | ohh |
| 19:40.34 | ufo_ | i'm going off to bed, today waas very windy day in PL and I was windsurfing :D |
| 19:40.49 | ufo_ | good 6BFT, 8 in peaks :) |
| 19:41.00 | ufo_ | I'm so tired .. |
| 19:41.03 | ufo_ | night |
| 19:41.50 | wethrin | Night |
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| 19:48.15 | PinguKaos | hello people |
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| 19:52.25 | Leeds | evening PinguKaos |
| 19:52.53 | Leeds | wethrin: it allows me to watch university challenge and mastermind without having to download it over someone else's wireless... |
| 19:53.12 | PinguKaos | heya, was beginning to think I was on iggy |
| 19:53.32 | wethrin | ahh |
| 19:54.42 | PinguKaos | Leeds, good name, I'm a relocated Leeds person |
| 19:55.38 | Leeds | you're in London now? where in Leeds were you? |
| 19:55.52 | PinguKaos | yeah, grew up in Hunslet |
| 19:56.12 | Leeds | ah - Alwoodley here, north Leeds |
| 19:56.21 | PinguKaos | and lived in hyde park/Headingley for a long time |
| 19:56.24 | Leeds | questions on internet fraud on UC :-) |
| 19:56.32 | Leeds | I was at school in Headingly |
| 19:57.20 | PinguKaos | lovely place, plan to move back up there after I finish Uni |
| 19:57.44 | Leeds | ah, you're studying in London? |
| 19:58.26 | PinguKaos | well moved down here permanently, I'm a mature student, strt a Software Engineering degree in a couple of weeks |
| 19:59.02 | Leeds | where? I was at Liverpool, graduated in 1998 |
| 19:59.16 | PinguKaos | City University, Islington |
| 19:59.34 | Leeds | don't know it, but my sisters live in Islington |
| 20:00.13 | PinguKaos | I like it there, some good pubs, and after all, when i Rome |
| 20:00.43 | Leeds | yeah, seems like a fun area... unlike Hendon :-) |
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| 20:03.43 | Leeds | sabinef72! |
| 20:04.14 | Leeds | PinguKaos: so, uh, distro/editor/desktop? |
| 20:05.41 | sabinef72 | hola chicos |
| 20:05.54 | Nylex | salut Sabine |
| 20:06.19 | PinguKaos | (flavour of the month) Ubuntu/Gnome....just migrated from Mandriva via a couple of other distros, still pretty new to me though |
| 20:06.34 | sabinef72 | I am in a cybercafe in cordoba |
| 20:06.48 | Leeds | sabinef72: in Spain again??? |
| 20:06.59 | PinguKaos | nice! |
| 20:07.18 | Nylex | :) |
| 20:07.30 | sabinef72 | no cordoba in argentina |
| 20:07.45 | Leeds | ah :-) |
| 20:08.01 | sabinef72 | and you ? are you in spain or in london ? |
| 20:08.16 | Leeds | my parents are planning to go to Cordoba in Spain, so my dad and I were looking at maps... I'm back in my place in London now |
| 20:08.29 | sabinef72 | ok |
| 20:08.49 | Leeds | how is Argentina? I've never been to South America... |
| 20:10.01 | sabinef72 | argentina is very amazing |
| 20:10.06 | sabinef72 | but I like it |
| 20:10.49 | sabinef72 | for the moment I am in the family of my friend and they consider me like a member of their family |
| 20:10.59 | sabinef72 | and that's impressive for me |
| 20:11.53 | Leeds | yeah, that's always nice |
| 20:12.37 | sabinef72 | yes |
| 20:12.49 | sabinef72 | but it's strange for me |
| 20:13.06 | sabinef72 | in france I always take care of people around me |
| 20:13.15 | sabinef72 | and now it's the opposite |
| 20:13.37 | Leeds | how is your Spanish? or are they speaking French/English? |
| 20:14.08 | sabinef72 | well my spanish is better and better of course |
| 20:14.29 | sabinef72 | I speak a little bit english with the sister of my friend but not so much |
| 20:14.38 | sabinef72 | for the rest I try to speak spanish |
| 20:14.49 | sabinef72 | but sometimes my friends translate for me |
| 20:15.03 | sabinef72 | but hear spanish all the time is very very good for me |
| 20:15.45 | Leeds | yeah - even my Spanish (reading/hearing, not speaking/writing) improves when I'm in Spain |
| 20:15.59 | Leeds | I find it's often quite easy to read |
| 20:18.14 | Leeds | PinguKaos: how is your Spanish? |
| 20:19.23 | sabinef72 | yes read is easy for me |
| 20:19.33 | PinguKaos | terrible, I know one phrase, and so far I've found it completely useles |
| 20:19.40 | sabinef72 | hear is more difficult ... depends of the personn |
| 20:19.49 | sabinef72 | but speak is the more difficult |
| 20:20.58 | PinguKaos | [mind the spelling] tu erris une chico tonto (my friend when I was a child was Spanish) |
| 20:21.13 | Leeds | I'm used to Andalusian Spanish, which I think has a bit of a strong accent |
| 20:21.13 | PinguKaos | sorry, friend's mother |
| 20:22.17 | Leeds | so what does that mean then? :-) |
| 20:22.40 | PinguKaos | something like "you are a cheeky boy" |
| 20:23.01 | PinguKaos | If I evee find a situatio to use it, I'll die a happy man |
| 20:23.15 | Leeds | heh... you like cheeky boys? |
| 20:23.26 | sabinef72 | tu eres un chico tonto |
| 20:23.34 | PinguKaos | my friends mother must have, but thats another story...heh |
| 20:23.46 | Leeds | :-) |
| 20:23.52 | sabinef72 | mean you are a stupid boy |
| 20:23.58 | Leeds | lol |
| 20:24.04 | PinguKaos | hahaha even better |
| 20:24.36 | PinguKaos | she was a nice woman, think I'll put her on my list or someting |
| 20:24.41 | PinguKaos | heh |
| 20:26.02 | PinguKaos | ok, it's been nice sitting and mixing the ascii, time for me to run along, be seeing you all |
| 20:26.14 | Leeds | are you coming to the meeting next week? |
| 20:26.27 | sabinef72 | where is my mozzie ? |
| 20:26.32 | PinguKaos | yeah, was planning to, looks interesting |
| 20:26.56 | Leeds | sabinef72: he was around before |
| 20:27.36 | sabinef72 | mozrat: come on man ¡¡ |
| 20:27.43 | Leeds | PinguKaos: well I'll probably see you there then :-) |
| 20:28.16 | PinguKaos | yeah, that would be good! see you around :) |
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| 20:33.39 | sabinef72 | Leeds: are you alone this night ? |
| 20:33.44 | Leeds | yes |
| 20:33.47 | sabinef72 | where are all the others ? |
| 20:33.59 | Leeds | oh, you mean here? :-) dunno |
| 20:34.07 | Leeds | I am also alone in my flat... |
| 20:34.29 | sabinef72 | ah ok |
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| 20:49.31 | sabinef72 | I must go now |
| 20:49.35 | sabinef72 | bye all |
| 20:49.49 | sabinef72 | Leeds: gives a kiss for me to morsing and mozrat |
| 20:50.18 | Leeds | uh, I'll pass on the message :-) have fun |
| 20:50.31 | sabinef72 | kisses for you too and thank you |
| 20:50.32 | sabinef72 | bye |
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| 21:50.14 | mozrat | Good eveningthing |
| 21:50.34 | wethrin | 'ello, old fruit |
| 21:54.01 | mozrat | Hello there |
| 21:54.19 | wethrin | How do? |
| 21:57.59 | mozrat | not bad at all |
| 21:58.23 | mozrat | "borrowing" a neighbours wireless connection |
| 22:03.20 | wethrin | Tut tut. Get your own! :-P |
| 22:04.59 | mozrat | Will on Friday |
| 22:06.36 | mozrat | nn all |
| 22:07.56 | wethrin | nn |
| 22:12.46 | popey | lo |
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| 22:51.17 | LeedsHK | seeya space cowboy... |
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