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| 07:14.46 | mozrat | Good Morning |
| 07:40.22 | morsing | mozrat :( |
| 07:40.45 | mozrat | Not happy to see me :-) |
| 07:41.12 | morsing | Yes. Got back from my extended weekend to Bath yesterday |
| 07:41.21 | mozrat | OOh, how was it? |
| 07:41.22 | morsing | I'm unhappy because I upset a friend :( |
| 07:41.28 | mozrat | Oh dear |
| 07:41.34 | morsing | mozrat: Good with a few bad things... |
| 07:41.52 | morsing | Have you ever used interflora's website to order flowers? |
| 07:42.55 | mozrat | Nope... |
| 07:44.11 | morsing | Hmm... It's wasn't too clear |
| 07:44.27 | morsing | It's *very* important that it gets delivered today |
| 07:45.07 | mozrat | Good Luck with it.. |
| 07:45.10 | morsing | :( |
| 07:46.12 | morsing | http://www.interflora.co.uk/page.xml?page_name=CategoryLandingPage%20help_faq#delivered |
| 07:46.32 | morsing | It looks like I won't really know if they've been delivered today |
| 07:50.20 | mozrat | morsing: phone a local flower shop in the area that she lives |
| 07:57.37 | morsing | mozrat: I already ordered them. I think interflora is pretty reliable |
| 07:57.58 | morsing | Also if I phone a local shop I wouldn't know what the flowers looked like... |
| 08:02.36 | mozrat | morsing: true enough |
| 08:03.13 | morsing | Total costs of upsetting female friend: £102 |
| 08:03.36 | mozrat | wow |
| 08:05.31 | morsing | :( |
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| 08:24.06 | morsing | huw-l! |
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| 08:27.27 | stephanb2 | yo |
| 08:27.51 | LeedsHK | morning folks |
| 08:27.57 | huw-l | morning |
| 08:30.30 | LottoKim | morning |
| 08:31.11 | morsing | 'morning |
| 08:36.49 | stephanb2 | morning everybody |
| 08:48.38 | mozrat | Hello! |
| 08:50.38 | mozrat | popey! |
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| 08:52.35 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 08:52.45 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 08:55.21 | mozrat | HELO SlayerXP |
| 08:56.15 | SlayerXP | 250 mozrat Go ahead. |
| 08:57.36 | mozrat | How are you today you slow stupid and inefficient thing? |
| 08:58.04 | morsing | :) |
| 08:58.12 | morsing | mozrat: Thanks for cheering me up :) |
| 08:58.52 | stephanb2 | mozrat: maybe a new career as a Calvinist minister would appeal to you ? |
| 08:58.54 | popey | mozrat! |
| 09:01.25 | SlayerXP | mozrat: slow, stupid and inefficient :) |
| 09:01.30 | mozrat | popey: I was about to comment on your cross-posted-ness |
| 09:02.16 | SlayerXP | I was tempted to post a "your first mistake is here ^^^^^" to that planetmysql thing :) |
| 09:06.46 | popey | :) |
| 09:07.53 | LeedsHK | SlayerXP: there's nothing wrong with planet! |
| 09:18.00 | stephanb2 | 2 |
| 09:18.29 | mozrat | I see your 2 and I raise you 3 |
| 09:20.02 | rhowe | (I don't count the dual p133 :) |
| 09:22.20 | stephanb2 | rhowe: dual p133, that a helluva crunching power! |
| 09:25.30 | rhowe | stephanb2: It's a Compaq Proliant 1000 |
| 09:25.41 | rhowe | stephanb2: I push about 100G through it each night, to an LTO drive :) |
| 09:25.53 | rhowe | stephanb2: It's almost ready for retirement |
| 09:26.12 | SlayerXP | I'm setting up zimki-on-a-laptop |
| 09:26.26 | SlayerXP | oddly, a laptop runs quite slowly when running 12 xen instances |
| 09:31.12 | mozrat | I didn't get xen to work when I tried :( |
| 09:31.24 | mozrat | SlayerXP: do you need specially modified guest kernels and install media? |
| 09:31.32 | mozrat | That was the impression I got but that cannot be so |
| 09:31.46 | SlayerXP | no |
| 09:31.53 | SlayerXP | it's a real pest to bootstrap |
| 09:32.09 | SlayerXP | but at least the debian kernel patches "just work" when applied to vanilla kernels |
| 09:32.19 | mozrat | right |
| 09:32.23 | mozrat | I was trying with SUSE |
| 09:35.31 | SlayerXP | i can see the problem |
| 09:37.00 | mozrat | I knew you couldn't resist |
| 09:37.07 | mozrat | hook, line and sinker Mr Brooks |
| 09:39.31 | morsing | Check it! |
| 09:50.38 | SlayerXP | i can now install debian using just the power of my mind |
| 09:52.34 | LeedsHK | back, fiend! |
| 09:52.38 | SlayerXP | running 12 xen instances leaving just 1Mb of memory free does very odd things |
| 09:52.40 | SlayerXP | *bang* |
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| 10:06.12 | popey | mozrat: ubunty edgy now ships with a xen-enabled kernel |
| 10:06.19 | morsing | Mmm... Xen |
| 10:06.26 | morsing | ~seen SpudUlike |
| 10:06.52 | ibot | spudulike <n=ubuntuco@ql4ever.demon.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 103d 10h 58m 30s ago, saying: 'Ay up!'. |
| 10:11.04 | mozrat | popey: oh cool |
| 10:11.17 | mozrat | Is that the current stable Buntu? |
| 10:16.28 | morsing | rhowe: Why are you ignoring me? |
| 10:17.46 | LeedsHK | "The colours of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky, are also on the faces of people going by. I see friends shaking hands, saying 'how do you do' - they're really saying 'I love you'" |
| 10:18.04 | LeedsHK | "What a wonderful world" |
| 10:20.20 | mozrat | morsing: send him some flowers as well :-0) |
| 10:20.29 | popey | mozrat: No, it's stable next month |
| 10:21.15 | morsing | mozrat :) |
| 10:21.32 | mozrat | popey: haven't used Ubuntu for a while now |
| 10:21.40 | mozrat | the green lizard bit me |
| 10:22.28 | SlayerXP | ubuntu is stable now? cool! |
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| 10:27.49 | mozrat | Hi wildfire |
| 10:28.30 | wildfire | hi |
| 10:28.54 | SlayerXP | i don't think I've ever seen so many different people here awake all at once |
| 10:29.21 | mozrat | wildfire: have you been here before? Welcome if not |
| 10:29.24 | SlayerXP | testing has xen kernels available |
| 10:29.26 | mozrat | please don't feed SlayerXP |
| 10:29.36 | SlayerXP | they don't work, mind |
| 10:30.07 | mozrat | SlayerXP: I must find out why my setup didn't work. |
| 10:30.07 | wildfire | mozrat, no, I've never been to a gllug meeting, and thought I might head along to the next one; and get a feel for the people on irc as well |
| 10:30.16 | mozrat | I love virtualisation and I feel dirty inside using VMWare |
| 10:30.28 | mikejw | lol |
| 10:30.30 | mozrat | wildfire: ahh, excellent. Welcomee |
| 10:30.47 | mozrat | wildfire: d/d/e ? (Distro/Desktop/Editor) ?? |
| 10:31.40 | wildfire | debian/gnome/varies by role - emacs if I'm writing software, vim if I'm doing sysadmin |
| 10:32.19 | wildfire | yourself? |
| 10:33.03 | mozrat | suse/gnome/vim |
| 10:33.17 | mozrat | although I am a former Debian user |
| 10:33.40 | SlayerXP | BURN THE EVIL ONE |
| 10:33.43 | rhowe | jEdit! |
| 10:33.48 | mozrat | Notepad.exe! |
| 10:33.55 | SlayerXP | rhowe: status re: dns? |
| 10:34.03 | rhowe | SlayerXP: I think the FD ignored my email :P |
| 10:34.15 | rhowe | SlayerXP: Let me prod for a reminder |
| 10:34.28 | mozrat | rhowe: why are you ignoring morsing ? |
| 10:34.37 | rhowe | mozrat: I am? |
| 10:34.39 | rhowe | morsing: I am? |
| 10:36.23 | mozrat | wildfire: where do you live at the moment? |
| 10:36.29 | morsing | rhowe: Hello :) |
| 10:37.21 | rhowe | morsing: Did your mate turn up in the end? |
| 10:38.00 | rhowe | I can get to the Brick Lane bagel shop from work in 15 minutes on foot |
| 10:39.29 | mikejw | kewel :D |
| 10:39.38 | morsing | rhowe: Yes, he did. |
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| 10:40.03 | morsing | richardc! |
| 10:40.39 | wildfire | mozrat, london |
| 10:41.07 | mozrat | wildfire: :-) - It's a big place........ |
| 10:41.20 | wildfire | angel ... |
| 10:49.54 | morsing | How can anyone enjoy living in London?! |
| 10:51.32 | SlayerXP | morsing: go live in norway for a year :) |
| 10:53.09 | morsing | ibot London |
| 10:53.18 | ibot | somebody said london was where the best LUG around is. |
| 10:53.39 | morsing | Ha ha ... :) |
| 10:53.44 | morsing | ibot Copenhagen |
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| 10:57.33 | rhowe | morsing: Did he have a good excuse? |
| 11:00.10 | morsing | rhowe: Well - "I didn't know I had to keep you informed about when we expectet you arrive to pick you up?!" |
| 11:00.15 | morsing | Is that a good excuse? |
| 11:00.29 | morsing | He did apologise after a short argument though... |
| 11:11.16 | rhowe | morsing: heh |
| 11:11.24 | rhowe | morsing: Sounds like his mind was on other things |
| 11:11.33 | rhowe | SlayerXP: "go ahead" |
| 11:11.37 | rhowe | SlayerXP: So, how do I order this? |
| 11:11.47 | zOOz | hello |
| 11:15.00 | rhowe | afternoon |
| 11:17.02 | SlayerXP | rhowe: send an email to martin@antibodymx.net with all the details |
| 11:17.15 | SlayerXP | rhowe: you'll get an invoice in due course |
| 11:27.34 | morsing | rhowe: No - he was just inconsiderate |
| 12:00.45 | morsing | ping rhowe |
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| 12:51.00 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 12:51.04 | Leeds | yes! |
| 12:51.19 | PinguKaos | oop north! |
| 12:52.14 | Leeds | no! |
| 12:55.16 | Leeds | down south and a long way west |
| 12:56.38 | morsing | Leeds: Back in HK? |
| 13:01.46 | Leeds | what? |
| 13:02.28 | Leeds | no, in London... |
| 13:04.15 | PinguKaos | aah, the long way west bit threw me |
| 13:04.38 | Leeds | long way west of Hong Kong :-) |
| 13:05.07 | mozrat | PinguKaos: Hello! |
| 13:05.23 | PinguKaos | s'pose that depends on which way you are facing, in a global kind of way, or something...heh |
| 13:05.35 | PinguKaos | hello mozrat |
| 13:06.00 | Leeds | or, indeed, whether you are looking at the back of your own head at the time |
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| 13:06.37 | PinguKaos | which is a problem I often face, or is that hair?...hmmm |
| 13:06.52 | Leeds | a problem you often hair/ |
| 13:06.56 | mozrat | PinguKaos: Is this your first time here also? |
| 13:07.23 | PinguKaos | well,it depends on if it's the front or back of my head :) |
| 13:07.47 | PinguKaos | no, third I think, nipped in to set up xchat a few days ago, then I was in here last night |
| 13:08.34 | PinguKaos | first time I've used IRC in many a moon |
| 13:09.04 | PinguKaos | and in the three visits I've already forgotten my NickServ pass...heh |
| 13:26.45 | huw-l | z00dax: any news on when a CentOS 4.4 may get released for IA64? |
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| 14:05.42 | z00dax | huw-l: machine issue - and also Pasi has been really busy recently... hence the lag |
| 14:05.45 | z00dax | Cope: ! |
| 14:05.48 | Cope | ok... so admittedly it's been 3+ yrs since I last tried, but I seem to be utterly failing to make a simple network cable... just cannot get the colours to line up properly |
| 14:05.54 | Cope | any handy hints? |
| 14:06.08 | z00dax | 2346-3264 |
| 14:06.10 | Cope | they seem to get twiddled up just as I shove them into the rj45 |
| 14:06.32 | z00dax | ah humm... line them up - push them in a line, should stay together then |
| 14:06.49 | Cope | they haven't |
| 14:06.55 | Cope | and I've tried about 10 times |
| 14:07.13 | z00dax | ouch |
| 14:08.36 | morsing | Cope: I don't understand what the question is in your email? |
| 14:08.50 | huw-l | z00dax: we have a 4-way IA64 not doing much, can we help? |
| 14:09.41 | z00dax | huw-l: yes! |
| 14:09.49 | Cope | ARGHY FUCKING FUCKETY COCK SHITE |
| 14:09.53 | Cope | (ahem, sorry) |
| 14:10.09 | Cope | (make that 11) |
| 14:10.25 | huw-l | z00dax: so what can we do? |
| 14:34.30 | Cope | well? |
| 14:36.55 | eyore | you know when you run a command over ssh like: |
| 14:37.22 | eyore | ssh root@server "ls -al" |
| 14:37.57 | eyore | is there any way to make ssh run the command as if I had manually logged in to the server and then run it |
| 14:38.14 | eyore | so set any enviroment variables/ run the interactive login script |
| 14:41.09 | Kitty | ssh root@server "bash ls -al " |
| 14:41.14 | Kitty | just a random guess |
| 14:41.25 | morsing | Kitty! |
| 14:41.31 | Kitty | well spotted |
| 14:47.08 | wethrin | Kitty: But that won't set up the login stuff - only read .bashrc |
| 14:47.25 | Kitty | arse badgers |
| 14:49.50 | wethrin | Doesn't 'bash -l' treat it as a login shell? |
| 14:57.48 | cbz | It will. |
| 14:58.03 | morsing | Or 'ksh -l' |
| 14:58.39 | wethrin | You and your AIX fantasies... |
| 14:59.02 | cbz | He gets violent when you criticise them. |
| 14:59.13 | cbz | Like murdoch, and ammonia. |
| 14:59.37 | morsing | Beer -l? |
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| 15:07.03 | trousers_ | Ahoy! |
| 15:08.47 | eyore | the bash - l thing did the trick |
| 15:09.00 | eyore | thanks |
| 15:09.16 | wethrin | And who said #gllug doesn't offer useful advice any more? :) |
| 15:09.27 | eyore | ok next question, what is the best way to to switch my system from EST to GMT? |
| 15:09.37 | eyore | it's fedora if that makes any difference |
| 15:09.52 | wethrin | Check /etc/localtime |
| 15:10.04 | wethrin | On my (OpenBSD system): |
| 15:10.10 | wethrin | # ls -l /etc/localtime |
| 15:10.10 | wethrin | lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 33 Jul 16 2005 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London |
| 15:10.11 | trousers_ | Isn't it /etc/timezone ? |
| 15:10.13 | morsing | eyore: chtz |
| 15:10.22 | eyore | it's binary here |
| 15:10.33 | wethrin | trousers_: Probably depends on your flavour of Unix |
| 15:10.42 | trousers_ | trousers@trousers-desktop:/etc$ more /etc/timezone |
| 15:10.42 | trousers_ | Europe/London |
| 15:10.57 | wethrin | coffee-time |
| 15:11.05 | trousers_ | Tool time! |
| 15:11.18 | eyore | no no /etc/timezone |
| 15:11.22 | eyore | will google |
| 15:12.17 | trousers_ | eyore: Do you have time-admin? I just checked that, and you can set timezone there |
| 15:12.45 | eyore | trying yum |
| 15:13.16 | eyore | found: http://www.anvari.org/cols/System_Administration/Fedora_Time_Setup.html |
| 15:13.21 | eyore | but seems bizzarly complex |
| 15:13.27 | cbz | It;s fedora |
| 15:13.28 | cbz | innit |
| 15:14.05 | eyore | i remember the days when all the control panels ran in both curses and gnome |
| 15:14.14 | eyore | i liked those days |
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| 15:16.00 | Cope | back in hk? seems unlikely |
| 15:16.29 | eyore | hk? |
| 15:18.31 | cpufreak | kong hong |
| 15:18.36 | trousers_ | Curses? |
| 15:18.49 | eyore | oh dear |
| 15:18.56 | eyore | i just accidentily installe gnome |
| 15:19.02 | cpufreak | but the fact he's connected from a bulldog dsl |
| 15:19.05 | cpufreak | would maybe hint he's not |
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| 15:19.39 | Blapto|Work | Hi |
| 15:19.48 | eyore | ha the ncurses version works |
| 15:19.54 | Blapto|Work | mmmm, ncurses |
| 15:19.54 | eyore | just gives a warning that it's deprecated |
| 15:20.13 | Blapto|Work | Does anybody want a sysadmin job in Berkeley Square? |
| 15:20.28 | z00dax | Blapto|Work: i can do 1 day/week |
| 15:20.36 | z00dax | but linux only. |
| 15:20.53 | Blapto|Work | It's a full time job, linux and windows. |
| 15:21.00 | z00dax | pass |
| 15:21.22 | z00dax | try the list |
| 15:21.38 | Blapto|Work | I'll get something written up to post there |
| 15:22.08 | eyore | ironic i have to install the whole of gnome to run a date control panel with ncurses |
| 15:22.36 | Blapto|Work | That's irony? |
| 15:22.53 | eyore | some would say |
| 15:23.02 | cbz | Some would be wrong/ |
| 15:23.20 | eyore | Okay |
| 15:24.31 | eyore | "it's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife" kind of ironic |
| 15:24.38 | eyore | eg, not very ironic. |
| 15:25.18 | cbz | You have a sister called Alanis? |
| 15:25.57 | eyore | just stupid |
| 15:26.06 | eyore | anyway it worked |
| 15:26.09 | eyore | I'm in GMT |
| 15:26.18 | cbz | Hurrah! |
| 15:26.19 | eyore | kind of wonder how that will affect my database now :) |
| 15:26.23 | cbz | Heh |
| 15:43.02 | wethrin | eyore: You might be, but the rest of us are in BST |
| 15:44.27 | eyore | GMT/BST |
| 15:44.35 | eyore | whatever |
| 15:45.38 | eyore | When I say GMT i mean "London time" not UTC |
| 15:46.05 | wethrin | Ahh, but that's wrong :) GMT is only London time for 5 months of the year |
| 15:47.46 | eyore | technically yes |
| 15:51.18 | stephanb2 | cu guys tmr |
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| 15:58.25 | LeedsHK | and there are places which are in GMT all year, so you could be in one of them |
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| 16:08.15 | Cope | keithlard: realised it is late; need to leave in 5 |
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| 16:35.15 | keithlard | shriek |
| 16:35.33 | wethrin | que? |
| 16:36.35 | keithlard | cope |
| 16:37.11 | wethrin | he's gorn |
| 16:39.53 | keithlard | i know, hence the shriekage |
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| 16:42.32 | Blapto|Work | Some nutters appear to have taken over cisco and forgotten that they make security and routing hardware. |
| 16:43.18 | Blapto|Work | Their website and literature have more information about leveraging synergy to stick stuff up your arsehole than anything to do with taking a packet of data and putting it somewhere else. |
| 16:43.38 | z00dax | asshole synergy.... |
| 16:45.03 | keithlard | maximising stakeholder value with targeted market growth |
| 16:45.19 | Blapto|Work | Yeah, all that shit |
| 16:45.49 | wethrin | curry? |
| 16:48.49 | Blapto|Work | now? |
| 16:49.46 | cbz | curry? |
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| 16:51.44 | wethrin | Why not? :) |
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| 17:00.59 | sabinef72 | hi all |
| 17:02.26 | sabinef72 | someone around ? |
| 17:02.33 | keithlard | nobody here but us chickens! |
| 17:04.29 | wethrin | I want to go home |
| 17:05.33 | wethrin | Did I say something wrong? |
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| 17:07.54 | sabinef72 | back again |
| 17:07.55 | sabinef72 | sorry |
| 17:09.49 | wethrin | Okay....time to turn off furnace and go home, I think |
| 17:10.40 | sabinef72 | mozrat: where are you ? |
| 17:11.51 | wethrin | he just signed off jabber |
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| 17:30.05 | sabinef72 | hi angelchild |
| 17:30.21 | sabinef72 | well I must go |
| 17:30.24 | sabinef72 | bye all |
| 17:30.28 | angelchild | hi, bye! |
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| 17:32.53 | JAV | hi! |
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| 18:48.11 | mozrat | wb boudiccas |
| 18:48.30 | boudiccas | mozrat; ty |
| 18:48.52 | mozrat | been up to much today? |
| 18:50.01 | boudiccas | mozrat; not a lot, haven't felt up to much thought |
| 18:50.08 | boudiccas | *though |
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| 19:07.40 | morsing | ping rhowe |
| 19:07.47 | morsing | mozrat! |
| 19:15.40 | wethrin | boing |
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| 20:34.46 | trousers_ | Can you make an exact copy of an HDD with dd? |
| 20:34.58 | trousers_ | Say I wanted to copy hdb to hdc? |
| 20:41.13 | popey | yes |
| 20:41.14 | popey | you can |
| 20:42.23 | popey | trousers_: http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/OneDiskToAnother may be useful to you |
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| 20:49.25 | wethrin | PDR! |
| 20:49.32 | pdr | wethrin!! |
| 20:49.42 | wethrin | LTNS. How's life? |
| 20:49.42 | pdr | how goes it? |
| 20:49.49 | wethrin | it goes.... |
| 20:49.51 | pdr | life is good |
| 20:49.59 | pdr | you still up in durham? |
| 20:50.04 | wethrin | I am, yes |
| 20:50.10 | wethrin | You should come visit some time |
| 20:50.38 | pdr | you have crash space? |
| 20:56.43 | wethrin | Out of term-time, yes. Inside term time, as long as you don't mind sleeping with computers :) |
| 20:57.48 | pdr | I love sleeping with computers! |
| 20:58.02 | pdr | They keep me warm at night ;-) |
| 21:01.06 | mikejw | :D |
| 21:04.09 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.44 | trousers_ | popey: Thanks, I'll do it on next server reboot, it took me ages to get an operating system on to the HDD, and if the HDD dies, I'll be quite the angry person |
| 21:05.13 | popey | :( |
| 21:06.30 | trousers_ | Does dd just copy if bit-for-bit to of? |
| 21:08.32 | mikejw | one block at a time? |
| 21:08.40 | mikejw | by default |
| 21:09.05 | JohnDoe661 | trousers_: you should use the "noerror" option, otherwise it errs out on any bad bit |
| 21:09.36 | trousers_ | JohnDoe661: I was just wondering in general ;) |
| 21:10.45 | mozrat | evening |
| 21:10.55 | mikejw | trousers_: sorry I thought you meant bit, by bit :) |
| 21:11.19 | trousers_ | Heh |
| 21:11.37 | JohnDoe661 | trousers_: in theory, yes - practically you rarely have two disks of the same block/sector/whatever size, which might be handled differently by the BIOS, firmware, driver.. |
| 21:12.26 | trousers_ | Oh yeah, also, I found a bug in Trillian, but I'm not sure how it works :S |
| 21:12.41 | trousers_ | But I want to know :) |
| 21:13.58 | JohnDoe661 | trousers_: if you have two good disks and the target disk is equal or bigger sized it usually works, but this is usually not supported in any way ;-) |
| 21:14.29 | trousers_ | Okay |
| 21:16.41 | JohnDoe661 | good n8 |
| 21:17.18 | trousers_ | Also, how do you delete an entire line in vi? |
| 21:17.27 | wethrin | dd |
| 21:18.09 | mikejw | spooky :D |
| 21:18.12 | trousers_ | Thanks |
| 21:19.55 | wethrin | spooky? |
| 21:20.59 | mikejw | don't you think? The answer was the same as the last topic.. :/ |
| 21:23.00 | mikejw | not that I'm very superstitious |
| 21:23.26 | mozrat | yay for Lotus Notes |
| 21:26.36 | wethrin | that's the first time anyone's said that |
| 21:26.47 | mikejw | ever! :P |
| 21:27.28 | mikejw | ibot seen George |
| 21:27.42 | ibot | george is currently on #htc-linux #kde #zaurus #openzaurus #opie #handhelds.org #elinux #intimate. Has said a total of 61 messages. Is idling for 4h 46m 57s, last said: 'I think I might have scared him off'. |
| 21:27.42 | mikejw | ibot: seen George |
| 21:27.44 | ibot | george is currently on #htc-linux #kde #zaurus #openzaurus #opie #handhelds.org #elinux #intimate. Has said a total of 61 messages. Is idling for 4h 46m 59s, last said: 'I think I might have scared him off'. |
| 21:27.56 | wethrin | He's still not back here |
| 21:29.03 | mikejw | hmm |
| 21:34.03 | mikejw | I haven't much experience with it tbh |
| 21:34.43 | mikejw | but it's quite yellow |
| 21:34.55 | mozrat | it is |
| 21:35.14 | wethrin | It's a rubbish email client. But okay for databases |
| 21:35.30 | mikejw | ah cool |
| 21:35.39 | mozrat | wethrin: all "corporate" mail clients are rubbis |
| 21:35.44 | mozrat | +h |
| 21:35.50 | wethrin | why, though? |
| 21:36.05 | mozrat | I don't know |
| 21:36.21 | mozrat | Given the big 3 I prefer Notes over Groupwise or Outlook |
| 21:42.54 | mikejw | :) |
| 21:45.14 | mikejw | bbl |
| 23:00.42 | mikejw | l |
| 23:00.43 | mikejw | o |
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| 23:34.21 | rhowe | hm, the flag & bell is pretty cool |
| 23:34.51 | wethrin | where? |
| 23:35.25 | rhowe | http://www.flag-and-bell.com |
| 23:36.01 | wethrin | Um. 45 minutes in each isnt' very long |
| 23:36.13 | rhowe | well, we only went to 2 |
| 23:36.25 | rhowe | and I met a guy I lived with at uni 3 years ago |
| 23:36.38 | wethrin | Hmmm.....give me a shout when the January one is on - I might still be around :) |
| 23:36.47 | wethrin | Incidentally, Lordi tickets arrived in the post today |
| 23:38.56 | rhowe | cool |
| 23:39.04 | rhowe | When are you next in London? |
| 23:39.23 | wethrin | Passing through this weekend, but not stopping. Otherwise next weekend |
| 23:39.25 | wethrin | See topic |
| 23:39.26 | wethrin | :) |
| 23:39.41 | rhowe | So do you want cash then, or now? |
| 23:39.45 | rhowe | (well, tomorrow) |
| 23:39.56 | wethrin | tomorrow? |
| 23:40.02 | wethrin | It's not weekend just yet |
| 23:40.34 | wethrin | Then will be okay - do you want to take the tickets too, or should I hold on to them until the gig? |
| 23:40.40 | rhowe | well, a/c # and s-c, and it's yours |
| 23:40.51 | rhowe | hmm |
| 23:40.56 | rhowe | may as well bring 'em |
| 23:41.03 | wethrin | Ahh....I can't remember them OTTOMH, and getting my wallet involves moving |
| 23:41.04 | rhowe | just in case we can't find you in the queue or something |
| 23:41.25 | wethrin | I'd suggest meeting somewhere else beforehand. Either Kentish Town station, or in the central area |
| 23:42.10 | rhowe | Yeah, probably a good idea |
| 23:59.53 | wethrin | nn |