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06:38.39 | morsing | 'morning all |
06:38.58 | morsing | It's such a weird feeling when Leeds isn't on at this time of morning |
06:59.40 | murb | morsing: you are suggesting he should go back to hk? |
07:01.25 | morsing | Yes - just to keep me company on IRC in the mornings |
07:02.06 | mikejw | :D |
07:02.10 | murb | morsing: are you coming to luxembourg? |
07:02.17 | mozrat | Good Morning fellows |
07:03.05 | morsing | mozzie! |
07:03.12 | morsing | We missed you |
07:03.19 | mozrat | awww, |
07:06.18 | mozrat | The possibility of official GLLUG T-Shirts if more possible than a few days ago now |
07:06.38 | mozrat | a "prominent" vendor is interested in sponsoring them (possibly!) |
07:13.09 | morsing | nice |
07:13.21 | morsing | Does it have a picture of George on it? |
07:13.38 | mozrat | No, I was saving him for the official GLLUG boxer shorts |
07:13.40 | popey | moorning morsing |
07:13.45 | popey | and mozrat :) |
07:13.52 | mozrat | Morning Mr Pope! |
07:14.37 | mozrat | My new laptop may arrive today! *bounce* *bounce* |
07:14.55 | popey | yay |
07:15.13 | popey | i just ordered a new pc last night |
07:15.16 | popey | it's a monster |
07:15.41 | popey | http://www.meshcomputers.com/Default.aspx?PAGE=PRODUCTVIEWPAGE&USG=PRODUCT&ENT=PRODUCT&KEY=124310 |
07:16.19 | mozrat | Nice |
07:16.24 | mozrat | quite a price tag though |
07:16.31 | mozrat | but - 20" screen :-) |
07:16.44 | popey | I ordered two 20" screens :) |
07:16.47 | mozrat | and yeah - that is fully loaded |
07:17.12 | mozrat | bloody contractors - have you ordered the swimming pool for your second house yet? |
07:17.17 | popey | hahah |
07:17.27 | popey | I am a permie I'll have you know |
07:17.32 | mozrat | oh? since when? |
07:17.44 | popey | (permie for my own company) |
07:17.45 | popey | :) |
07:17.49 | mozrat | ah |
07:17.59 | mozrat | We are splitting hairs then :-) |
07:18.05 | popey | :) |
07:18.16 | popey | I never buy new computers |
07:18.22 | popey | that's the third, ever |
07:18.23 | mozrat | Let me guess - you earn about £15k a year but WOW - look at the bonus package :-) |
07:18.27 | popey | haha |
07:18.38 | mozrat | :-) |
07:19.15 | mozrat | Sorry you guys can't be in this meeting. sounds..... fun |
07:19.18 | mozrat | be back later |
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07:36.13 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
07:40.07 | SlayerXP | morning |
07:40.53 | morsing | SlayerXP: Tea? |
07:41.00 | SlayerXP | please. |
07:43.43 | morsing | Here ya go |
07:45.43 | SlayerXP | well? |
07:45.48 | SlayerXP | i see no tea |
07:45.49 | morsing | ? |
07:49.26 | phearless | good morning |
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08:01.31 | morsing | huw-l! |
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08:08.51 | huw-l | morning |
08:39.26 | morsing | Kidney beans |
08:56.20 | huw-l | are poisonous until you cook them |
09:04.35 | morsing | huw-l: Are they?!? I've been eating with milk for breakfast |
09:10.28 | z00dax | Kidney beans with milk ? uncooked kidney beans ? |
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09:19.12 | morsing | Cope! |
09:19.35 | Cope | hi |
09:21.55 | z00dax | Cope: ! |
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09:27.27 | rhowe | Product recall on all Steve Irwins sun products as claims that it keeps you safe from harmful rays has been proved to be false. |
09:31.05 | morsing | Ping rhowe |
09:31.52 | Cock | rhowe: I wasn't aware he had any for that platform; |
09:37.13 | rhowe | pong |
09:38.28 | Cock | loop |
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10:02.04 | Leeds | "Simpson, Homer Simpson, he's the greatest guy in history. From the town of Springfield, he's about to hit a chestnut tree" |
10:02.04 | morsing | Leeds! |
10:02.09 | morsing | You're up early? |
10:02.09 | Leeds | also, good morning |
10:02.18 | Leeds | my sister woke me up... |
10:02.28 | mozrat | Morning Leeds |
10:02.35 | mozrat | popey: PING! |
10:03.07 | popey | pong |
10:04.04 | mozrat | popey: I'm going to go ahead and just create some leaflets based on our Gobby file |
10:04.10 | mozrat | I am mega-short of time now :( |
10:04.10 | popey | well |
10:04.22 | popey | want me to do it? |
10:04.27 | popey | or |
10:04.29 | mozrat | I have to print them and get them to kbsingh tonight and go to Milan in the morning |
10:04.37 | popey | should we use marketing from fsf or other organisations? |
10:04.40 | mozrat | Well - I don't want you to incur any costs.... |
10:04.41 | popey | rather than try to duplicate? |
10:04.44 | mozrat | I can do the printing here |
10:05.59 | mozrat | If you want to design the leaflet I am (very) happy for you to do that |
10:06.05 | mozrat | and I'll print them off |
10:06.09 | mozrat | I can do 2 sided if you like |
10:06.38 | mozrat | I have some FSFE leaflets and stickers to give to kbsingh tonight as well |
10:06.56 | popey | http://hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?InfoPoints/FlyerMasters those may be useful? |
10:07.07 | popey | http://www.streetend.force9.co.uk/misc/infoart/flyers/free_software-flyer-3a.pdf specifically |
10:07.55 | popey | could edit (the source is on that page) to change hants to sfd.. |
10:08.00 | popey | or infopoint to sfd |
10:08.36 | mozrat | I like them, but I also like the bullet pointed FAQ style leaflet we were envisioning on Gobby |
10:08.51 | popey | ok |
10:08.54 | popey | up to you really :) |
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10:44.22 | Leeds | mozrat: you might know... when's half-term? |
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10:45.44 | eyore | anyone know if the dual core AMD processors are socket compatible with the slightly earlier unicore processors? |
10:48.35 | mozrat | Leeds NFI |
10:48.48 | mozrat | I only know when I go home and my wife is more stressed than normal |
10:48.57 | mozrat | my kids only started this week at school so I guess at least a month |
10:49.17 | Leeds | heh |
10:58.29 | z00dax | eyore: 939 stuff is, yes |
10:58.57 | z00dax | and most of the 940 as well, but i've heard some strange stories in the wild |
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10:59.59 | eyore | yeah i found it now, i have 939 |
11:03.19 | mozrat | z00dax! |
11:03.45 | z00dax | mozrat: ! |
11:03.46 | mozrat | Got such a bunged up head with this 'orrible cold |
11:03.52 | z00dax | uh oh |
11:04.00 | z00dax | you need a spicy curry |
11:04.27 | mozrat | Apparently I'll be eating Italian food before anything else :-) |
11:04.36 | mozrat | Never been to .it - looking forward to it |
11:04.39 | z00dax | no dinner today ? |
11:04.54 | z00dax | fancy a moderately ok, authentic indian tonite ? |
11:05.21 | mozrat | z00dax: I'd love to but I need to be playing "dad" tonight |
11:05.39 | mozrat | I've got time for a quick beer depending what time we meet up |
11:05.41 | z00dax | bring them along |
11:06.15 | mozrat | What time are you getting home? |
11:06.21 | z00dax | let me check |
11:18.02 | morsing | Check it! |
11:19.08 | z00dax | mozrat: i'll know in 10 min, but i dont think its going to be very late today |
11:24.35 | mozrat | z00dax: let me know whenever, but my kids tend to start flaking out quite early |
11:24.46 | mozrat | years of being sent to bed on time do that to you :-) |
11:25.03 | mozrat | So - taking them out tonight may not be an option I'm afraid |
11:28.00 | morsing | Robbie Williams sucks |
11:29.17 | z00dax | morsing: was it good for you ? |
11:31.09 | mozrat | morsing: URL? |
11:31.42 | morsing | z00dax: No - I don't like him |
11:31.46 | morsing | mozrat: ?! |
11:44.22 | Kitty | who is it that normally organises the post expo piss up ? |
11:46.36 | Leeds | Kitty: you volunteering? |
11:46.40 | Leeds | when is the expo, anyway? |
11:46.46 | Kitty | 25th-26th of october |
11:46.49 | Kitty | I hope |
11:46.58 | Leeds | hmm... I really should be gone by then |
11:47.24 | popey | mozrat: worth sending an announcement about sfd to comp.os.linux.announce? (whilst on the usenet subject) :) |
11:50.09 | morsing | Kitty! |
11:50.14 | Kitty | well spotted |
11:50.36 | morsing | Coffee? |
11:51.52 | Kitty | yes please |
11:51.54 | Kitty | black |
11:51.57 | Kitty | no sugar |
11:51.57 | Kitty | strong |
11:54.56 | morsing | Nice :) Here you go |
11:57.09 | mozrat | popey: I have done once, I will again |
11:59.38 | Leeds | mozrat: uk.comp.os.linux? |
12:00.41 | mozrat | Yep - I always post to both of those |
12:00.46 | mozrat | as per best practices |
12:01.20 | rhowe | Leeds: falafel this fine evening? |
12:01.23 | mozrat | and then I start to read comp.os.linux.advocacy and start to lose productivity |
12:01.29 | popey | :) |
12:01.42 | mozrat | "You're a dick" |
12:01.50 | mozrat | "No, you're a dick" |
12:01.57 | mozrat | loop until infinity |
12:04.42 | Leeds | rhowe: yes indeedy |
12:05.03 | Leeds | rhowe: call me when you hit Golders Green and I'll pick you up at Hendon :-) |
12:05.09 | rhowe | Leeds: Alrighty :) |
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12:07.36 | popey | :) |
12:07.40 | mozrat | hello Cope |
12:07.51 | Cope | hello mozrat |
12:08.13 | mozrat | Up to much? |
12:08.19 | mozrat | How is $NEW_JOB |
12:08.27 | Cope | $OK |
12:08.32 | mozrat | $GOOD |
12:09.18 | Cope | i'm still fighting svn |
12:09.33 | Cope | or rather failing to understand how it works perhaps |
12:11.37 | Cope | lunch & |
12:16.21 | Leeds | rhowe: what sort of time? |
12:23.50 | rhowe | Leeds: 5:30ish? |
12:25.33 | Cope | fg |
12:28.31 | mozrat | Cope! |
12:28.31 | mozrat | Whats wrong with SVN? Do you know about the free book about SVN? |
12:30.09 | Cope | es |
12:30.10 | Cope | yes |
12:30.20 | Cope | i just don't understand its behaviour |
12:30.26 | Cope | i shall try to demonstrate |
12:30.34 | mozrat | I'm no expert at all, but I use it a fair bit |
12:30.42 | mozrat | with the apache stuff as well |
12:30.51 | Cope | yes, i have it up and running now |
12:31.02 | Cope | so I have a repo at http://svn/svn |
12:31.06 | Cope | fine |
12:31.28 | Cope | now, I had imported some random chuff into it, but then I blew it all away |
12:31.31 | Cope | using svn client |
12:31.42 | Cope | so at present if I browse to repo I get: |
12:34.18 | Cope | revision 30: / |
12:34.21 | Cope | ie empty repo |
12:34.22 | Cope | ok? |
12:34.53 | Cope | so... i have 2 test clients; one linux and one windows |
12:35.11 | morsing | ping Leeds |
12:35.26 | Cope | on linux box, let's create a project |
12:36.11 | Cope | ok, so cd /tmp; mkdir branches, tags, trunk |
12:36.20 | Cope | now let's import it into the repo |
12:37.26 | Cope | svn import http://svn/svn |
12:37.30 | Cope | ok - says it has added it |
12:37.33 | Cope | fine. |
12:37.39 | Cope | now let's check out a working copy |
12:37.47 | Cope | cd ~cope |
12:38.17 | Cope | svn co http://svn/svn |
12:38.23 | Cope | revison 31 checked out |
12:38.29 | Cope | let's do the same on winders |
12:39.39 | Cope | ok, checked out wokring copy using tortoise svn |
12:39.49 | Cope | ok, on the linux box |
12:40.24 | Cope | cd svn/trunk |
12:40.26 | Cope | vi foo |
12:40.26 | SlayerXP | cope: who are you talking ot? |
12:40.31 | mozrat | me! |
12:40.41 | Cope | SlayerXP: mozrat |
12:40.58 | SlayerXP | you know I'm a contributor to the book? :) |
12:41.03 | Cope | I do |
12:41.04 | Cope | :) |
12:41.24 | Cope | ok, so now I have a new file on linux box |
12:41.31 | Cope | so i should do an update? |
12:41.43 | Cope | at revision 31 |
12:41.47 | SlayerXP | no, you should add, then commit |
12:41.55 | Cope | add? |
12:42.08 | SlayerXP | you only _need_ to do an update in the event of a conflict, or when you really want to update |
12:42.22 | Cope | ok... so what did my update do? basically nothing? as the repo was unchanged |
12:42.37 | SlayerXP | indeed. |
12:43.10 | Cope | right... so which, if any files are currently under version control? |
12:43.16 | Cope | the ones I imported and checked out? |
12:43.22 | Cope | but not new files under them? |
12:43.27 | SlayerXP | svn st -v |
12:44.06 | Cope | ok... ? next to foo; and . |
12:44.18 | SlayerXP | which means those are unversioned |
12:44.34 | Cope | oh there is nothing beside . |
12:44.34 | SlayerXP | i.e. svn doesn't know anything about them |
12:44.39 | Cope | just foo |
12:45.22 | Cope | right... if i go to top level and do st -v |
12:45.29 | Cope | i can see which are under version crontrol |
12:45.30 | Cope | ok |
12:45.58 | SlayerXP | "svn st" on its own, will only tell you about oddities |
12:46.07 | SlayerXP | -v makes it tell you about everything |
12:46.21 | Cope | right, ok so I added foo |
12:46.37 | Cope | having faled to see an "add everything taht isn't already under version control" option |
12:47.17 | Cope | so now i commit |
12:47.37 | Cope | ok... done |
12:47.38 | SlayerXP | "svn add *" |
12:47.55 | Cope | think i did taht |
12:47.58 | SlayerXP | svn ci -m "Added foo." |
12:48.01 | Cope | it didn't seem to act recursively |
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12:48.12 | SlayerXP | use the -r switch to make it recurse |
12:48.19 | Cope | so i did svn add trunk/foo |
12:48.29 | Cope | svn ci -m "added foo" |
12:48.32 | Cope | seemed to work |
12:48.37 | Cope | so now let's check out on winders |
12:49.11 | Cope | ok, that's fine - did svn update of already checked out working copy |
12:49.12 | Cope | all ok |
12:49.37 | Cope | think it was just "add" i was missing |
13:09.47 | rhowe | heh |
13:23.54 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/IMG_4588.JPG |
13:25.25 | boudiccas | morsing; nice picture of a teddy bear, but whats the thing in the middle? |
13:26.14 | morsing | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogwai |
13:26.43 | morsing | It sings when you hit it |
13:28.48 | boudiccas | lol |
13:29.45 | boudiccas | my son when he was very young had a teddy bear for christmas that played carols when you squeezed its paw. By the end of the day we'd lost the batteries for the bear :) |
13:30.40 | SlayerXP | should I get the reg plate "L15 NUX" |
13:31.19 | morsing | SlayerXP: Uhmmm no. Move to a sane country and get "Linux" |
13:32.12 | morsing | Brits and their bloody number plates |
13:38.13 | wethrin | boudiccas: "lost"? :) |
13:38.41 | boudiccas | wethrin; lost as in we'd removed them and hidden them :) |
13:38.47 | wethrin | Mmm |
13:38.54 | mozrat | boudiccas: how old is your son? I didn't know you had one |
13:39.14 | boudiccas | mozrat; 18 |
13:39.28 | mozrat | Cool! Good age to be |
13:39.37 | boudiccas | I have a daughter who's 23 too |
13:41.31 | mozrat | These things we didn't know about boudiccas! |
13:42.26 | boudiccas | :) Did you know that I learnt to parachute at Netheravon? :) |
13:43.13 | mozrat | No! |
13:43.32 | mozrat | I've jumped at Netheravon many times though |
13:43.37 | mozrat | I learnt in Oxfordshire |
13:44.04 | boudiccas | From memory< i did seven jumps at Netheravon |
13:44.32 | boudiccas | *< , |
13:44.33 | mozrat | cool - how did that come about? |
13:44.41 | boudiccas | ah ha :) |
13:46.28 | boudiccas | helpful tip - don't land on the old mattress in the sand pit, cos its got springs and you'll bounce! [muggins did it!] |
13:46.41 | Leeds | morsing: pong |
13:47.38 | mozrat | boudiccas: lol |
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13:47.59 | boudiccas | it was quite funny ...... for everyone else |
13:48.46 | wethrin | Leeds: Does your xbox have a hard drive in it? |
13:49.08 | Leeds | yes, of course |
13:49.39 | wethrin | What's the easiest way of getting a new Linux install onto it? Boot from CD? |
13:49.45 | Leeds | yes, of course |
13:50.05 | Leeds | the point is that it's got a replacement BIOS, which doesn't run games, but will boot Linux from CD or HD |
13:50.22 | wethrin | Excellent. Is there a specific distro for it, or will any work? |
13:51.03 | Leeds | um, yes and no... you need - or needed, last time I looked - a lightly-patched kernel, and there are one or two xbox-specific-ish drivers |
13:51.23 | chrismil | Hi guys, long time since I was here. Quick question: anyone got a source of PCI sata card with e-sata (external SATA connection) in the UK (i.e. delivery tomorrow). I like the look of the Addonics AD2SAP but for sale in the UK I've not tracked down |
13:51.24 | wethrin | okay |
13:51.44 | Leeds | so in short, they're pretty normal distros, but lightly-forked for xbox use |
13:52.14 | wethrin | Leeds: Right. That's fine - I just need something light to run mplayer/vlc with |
13:52.36 | Leeds | wethrin: it's more normal to run something like freevo on it as a frontend - that's how I did it |
13:53.03 | morsing | Leeds: Should I run sa-learn on the folder that SA has put spam in? |
13:53.04 | wethrin | Cool - that allows browsing around the filesystem, then? |
13:53.11 | wethrin | oh - is it networkable? |
13:54.06 | Leeds | morsing: yes, if you've checked it for false positives |
13:54.27 | Leeds | of course it's networkable - would be pretty useless otherwise |
13:54.55 | Leeds | wethrin: do me a favour - go read the specs :-) |
13:55.32 | wethrin | Fine :-P |
14:01.59 | morsing | Learned from 18 message(s) (51 message(s) examined). |
14:02.19 | morsing | I still can believe it didn't learn anything from my 3776 non-spam messages... |
14:19.58 | phearless | anybody know good sellers of servers in the uk ? |
14:20.34 | z00dax | phearless: i dont think there is such a thing |
14:20.39 | phearless | for example for a 2U, RAID5, 3x250GB HD, 2G RAM, dual power supply |
14:20.42 | z00dax | its just personal experience |
14:21.20 | phearless | except DELL because it is a bit overpriced |
14:21.35 | z00dax | Dell is over priced ? thats a first... |
14:21.54 | z00dax | well, try Sun / HP / IBM for branded stuff - xinit.com / rackservers.co.uk for diy kit |
14:22.45 | phearless | I will have a look at this ! |
14:27.46 | eyore | does anyone else heavily use firefox under linux? |
14:28.11 | boudiccas | eyore; define 'heavily'? |
14:28.47 | boudiccas | i use ff all the time and its left open all the time too, as is opera |
14:28.51 | eyore | enough to frequently get affected by iframes popping out in a new window for no reason and have found a fix |
14:29.20 | boudiccas | eyore; nope, no problems except it seems to eat my swap |
14:29.25 | eyore | I find during heavy usage periods frequently it starts popping out the windows |
14:29.29 | eyore | it's really annoying |
14:29.48 | eyore | and if you accidentily close any of those windows the whole of firefox dies |
14:30.12 | boudiccas | maybe you can find an extension or greasemonkey to get round the problem |
14:30.59 | boudiccas | my ff is remarkably persistent and hardly ever dies, maybe once or twice a month if that |
14:31.17 | eyore | it's not like some advert script |
14:31.22 | eyore | it's just firefox going crazy |
14:31.52 | boudiccas | it'just works' [TM] for me :) |
14:32.29 | morsing | Check it! |
14:35.21 | SlayerXP | z00dax: do you work for xinit? |
14:35.35 | z00dax | SlayerXP: not anymore, i left in May |
14:36.28 | mozrat | popey: the sfd flyer is done - I'm afraid there is no peer review process for big changes as I have no time |
14:36.29 | SlayerXP | z00dax: do they have a sales girl called Jasmin or Yasmin? |
14:36.59 | z00dax | she's the big boss. |
14:37.23 | SlayerXP | cool |
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14:40.35 | mozrat | keithlard_: what were you smiling about so early this morning? |
14:41.06 | keithlard_ | ah - just that i got my new ubuntu box up and running :> |
14:41.13 | mozrat | I see! |
14:41.29 | mozrat | any estimates on how many leaflets we need for Saturday> |
14:41.36 | mozrat | is 200 too optimistic? |
14:42.12 | keithlard_ | don't put the date on there, then you can re-use them next year |
14:42.36 | mozrat | There is a dirty big Software Freedom Day 2006 logo on the top :-) |
14:43.14 | keithlard_ | oh well if there are any left over, cross out 2006 and write in 2007 crudely in felt tip |
14:44.30 | mozrat | :D |
14:50.21 | SlayerXP | did you correct all the spelling and grammar mistakes on them? |
14:51.21 | morsing | Yes I did |
14:51.35 | SlayerXP | i found either 8 or 9 |
14:53.22 | mozrat | SlayerXP: Of course not. This is me we are talking about |
14:53.40 | mozrat | SlayerXP: the ones you are refering to aren't mine! |
14:53.47 | mozrat | They are from the Ozzie SFD team |
14:54.03 | mozrat | I've written my own *beams proudly* |
14:55.37 | morsing | What are we talking about? |
14:56.07 | mozrat | morsing: the SFD leaflets for Saturday |
14:56.12 | mozrat | morsing: are you coming? |
15:02.59 | boudiccas | No, its just the way he's standing :)))) |
15:03.53 | mozrat | *gasp* |
15:04.19 | boudiccas | lol |
15:06.47 | morsing | mozrat: Didn't know anything was happening |
15:07.00 | morsing | boudiccas: Hmm... |
15:07.10 | rhowe | keithlard_: Easier to save them for 2008 :) |
15:07.22 | keithlard_ | good thinking rhowe |
15:07.24 | boudiccas | I'm innocent .... not! :) |
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15:09.57 | mozrat | morsing: WHAT? |
15:10.03 | mozrat | it's sabinef72! |
15:10.06 | sabinef72 | hi all |
15:10.08 | sabinef72 | yesssssssssssssssssss |
15:10.10 | mozrat | hey hey hey! |
15:10.12 | sabinef72 | mozzie |
15:10.33 | mozrat | how are you? How was Argentina? |
15:10.43 | keithlard_ | bonjour sabinef72 tout va bien? |
15:10.46 | sabinef72 | I am now in buenos aires |
15:10.57 | boudiccas | its sabinef72, the ssssssssssssssssss'ng sssssssssssssnake :)))) |
15:10.57 | sabinef72 | keithlard: oui tout va bien merci et toi ? |
15:11.03 | mozrat | you are still there? |
15:11.20 | sabinef72 | yes untill the friday will come UP soon |
15:12.04 | keithlard_ | pas mal du tout merci! as-tu des photos de argentina pour voir? :D |
15:12.16 | sabinef72 | because of the stupid airplane compagny I had to stay first in Chilie then I went in Cordoba in the middle of argentina then I went in the north and brazil and now in buenos aires |
15:12.39 | sabinef72 | keithlard: sur mon appareil photo mais je n ai rien pour transferer il faudra donc patienter encore un peu |
15:13.19 | sabinef72 | hi boudiccas |
15:14.41 | keithlard_ | frown, j'attends donc |
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15:17.00 | sabinef72 | keithlard: YES |
15:17.02 | sabinef72 | oops |
15:17.06 | sabinef72 | yes |
15:17.08 | keithlard_ | shriek |
15:17.40 | keithlard_ | i'm looking forward to it... argentina is beautiful |
15:17.41 | cbz | hi |
15:18.06 | sabinef72 | yes especially las carataras where there are amazing falls of water |
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15:18.58 | morsing | sabinef72! |
15:19.39 | sabinef72 | hiiiiiii morsing |
15:19.56 | keithlard_ | ooh! |
15:20.01 | morsing | :) |
15:20.27 | sabinef72 | hu hu |
15:20.30 | morsing | :) |
15:20.37 | morsing | Mmm... Slug |
15:22.41 | cbz | slug? |
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15:22.50 | keithlard_ | j'ai vu cet film 'bonbon el perro' qui se deroule de l'argentine, c'etait genial |
15:23.15 | morsing | cbz: I still haven't caught it yet |
15:24.08 | cbz | caught what? |
15:24.09 | mozrat | hello wildfire |
15:24.16 | cbz | You have a slug wandering around in your room? |
15:24.20 | morsing | cbz: The slug. It keeps getting away |
15:24.27 | cbz | urm |
15:24.29 | morsing | cbz: In my kitchen, yes. |
15:26.19 | cbz | Are you in your kitchen now? |
15:26.25 | boudiccas | morsing; put slug pellets down, or if you see it chili powder on its back |
15:26.25 | morsing | cbz: No - at work |
15:27.11 | morsing | boudiccas: Nice |
15:27.11 | cbz | So why worry about it? |
15:27.11 | morsing | cbz: It's a bit disgusting |
15:27.11 | cbz | You'll be able to see where it has been - from the trails. |
15:33.45 | sabinef72 | I must go now |
15:33.55 | sabinef72 | kisses all and see you next week |
15:34.01 | cbz | bye |
15:34.06 | cbz | has she gone to argentina? |
15:34.32 | sabinef72 | cbz: I am in buenos aires |
15:34.37 | cbz | Ah |
15:34.44 | cbz | I assumed you were in france |
15:34.51 | sabinef72 | not yet |
15:34.56 | cbz | oh! |
15:34.59 | sabinef72 | I will be back saturday |
15:35.05 | cbz | 'kay |
15:35.06 | sabinef72 | I really must go |
15:35.07 | sabinef72 | kisses |
15:35.08 | cbz | bye |
15:35.13 | cbz | schmisses |
15:39.48 | wildfire | mozrat, hi |
15:40.59 | mozrat | wildfire: Are you new to the channel? |
15:41.16 | wildfire | mozrat, no - you asked me that a week or so ago |
15:41.31 | wildfire | we did the whole d/s/e thing |
15:41.48 | keithlard_ | a/s/l? |
15:42.07 | mozrat | wildfire: Ummm! |
15:42.14 | mozrat | wildfire: I obviously have a shit memory |
15:42.27 | mozrat | Years of chronic coffee abuse |
15:42.35 | mozrat | Sorry! |
15:42.45 | wildfire | keithlard, yes but with a geeky bent |
15:42.51 | wildfire | distribution / shell / editor |
15:43.02 | keithlard_ | aah :D |
15:43.10 | wildfire | mozrat, or alcohol more likely; I've the same problem, don't worry |
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15:43.35 | keithlard_ | that is intresting |
15:45.02 | wethrin | boing |
15:45.24 | z00dax | . |
15:45.33 | mozrat | it's actually d/d/e :-) |
15:45.46 | wethrin | Surely shell is always ksh? :) |
15:45.55 | z00dax | troll |
15:46.06 | wethrin | Well, it should never be (t)csh |
15:46.15 | cbz | zsh/ksh |
15:46.15 | z00dax | I agree with that |
15:46.23 | z00dax | fish ? |
15:46.39 | wethrin | fsh? |
15:47.12 | Cope | ipython |
15:47.27 | cbz | or es/rc |
15:47.43 | z00dax | http://roo.no-ip.org/fish/screenshots.html |
15:47.47 | z00dax | but fish is pretty |
15:48.03 | keithlard_ | nautilus! |
15:48.09 | Cope | mc |
15:48.16 | z00dax | cat ? |
15:48.18 | z00dax | :) |
15:48.19 | wethrin | yay for nc clones |
15:48.31 | mozrat | I edit text files using cat and dd |
15:48.35 | mozrat | beat that |
15:48.58 | z00dax | i do it remotely with ncat |
15:48.58 | wethrin | Wouldn't some way of changing the text be useful? :) |
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15:53.41 | wethrin | bye mozrat |
15:53.43 | wethrin | oh.... |
15:53.44 | mozrat | oh z00dax.. tonight? |
15:53.47 | wethrin | Will you on IRC tomorrow? |
15:54.03 | wethrin | Or can you email me all the details I'm going to need on Saturday? |
15:54.12 | mozrat | wethrin: Not sure - I'm flying in the morning and I don't know what the score is in the office there |
15:54.14 | wethrin | (including whatever announcements need to be made) |
15:54.19 | wethrin | right |
15:54.21 | mozrat | Yes, sorry. I will |
15:54.40 | wethrin | thanks :) |
15:58.30 | wethrin | No, no! I have no idea what's so important about it! |
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15:59.37 | keithlard_ | well everyone likes free stuff! :) |
16:01.00 | wethrin | free pie? |
16:01.11 | rhowe | richardc: I haven't set off yet |
16:01.47 | keithlard_ | free curry! |
16:01.53 | wethrin | ooh, yay |
16:01.53 | keithlard_ | free software! |
16:01.56 | keithlard_ | it's all good! |
16:01.58 | wethrin | I shall be making curry tonight |
16:02.08 | wethrin | Not quite real curry, as it would be containing beef |
16:02.22 | keithlard_ | i will be observing through your kitchen window with high-powered optics |
16:02.37 | wethrin | extra-long zoom lens? |
16:02.43 | rhowe | richardc: Beating JAAS upside the head |
16:03.08 | mozrat | any one have an idea what the boot options for the FC installer are to get VNC working? |
16:03.56 | keithlard_ | i bet z00dax knows as we did a remote install via vnc just recently |
16:04.28 | wethrin | Grieg Piano Concerto++ |
16:05.20 | keithlard_ | bacon++ |
16:05.35 | z00dax | I do indeed, mozrat what version of FC ? |
16:05.43 | keithlard_ | :) |
16:05.45 | wethrin | Gnah. Naughty xbox-linux FAQ "...as all TVs have a built-in resolution of 640x480" |
16:06.16 | mozrat | ahh - the same as SUSE apart from it's just "vnc" rather than "vnc=1" |
16:06.33 | z00dax | http://www.karan.org/blog/index.php/2005/06/15/ |
16:06.39 | z00dax | mozrat: that might help. |
16:06.46 | z00dax | i didnt know anaconda was used on SuSe as well |
16:09.22 | mozrat | z00dax: cheers |
16:11.42 | chrismil | byee |
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16:11.50 | rhowe | richardc: OK, I'm on my way |
16:12.36 | richardc | rhowe: call me from Golders Green |
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16:24.26 | eyore | If anyone wants to admire my new site: http://www.viralvideochart.com/ :) |
16:30.06 | eyore | finally got the caching working ok |
16:30.42 | mozrat | eyore: cool |
16:31.46 | eyore | thanks |
16:31.49 | wethrin | richardc: Would it be correct to assume your Xbox has been modded with the 'Cromwell' stuff? |
16:32.09 | eyore | i have a machine cranking through those blogs at a fair old rate. |
16:32.40 | eyore | I'm sure there must be something else useful i could do whilst reading 35 blogs/second 24/7 but i have yet to think of it. |
16:33.00 | eyore | or rather, yet to think of something else useful that someone is not already doing |
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16:34.58 | richardc | wethrin: yes |
16:38.10 | wethrin | excellent |
16:47.29 | wethrin | It certainly looks like the ideal living room tool for me |
17:01.57 | richardc | the alternative is to slap xmbc on there for an off-the-shelf solution |
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18:02.47 | mozrat | woof |
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18:21.32 | mozrat | z00dax, ping! |
18:25.00 | z00dax | mozrat:pong |
18:25.55 | mozrat | still OK for tonight, im thinking about 2200ish? |
18:26.13 | mozrat | I have the leaflets in my bag |
18:26.14 | z00dax | works for me, i'll be home by 8:45'ish |
18:26.52 | mozrat | cool -what is your postcode? |
18:27.09 | z00dax | da1 3dj |
18:30.56 | morsing | f |
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19:58.06 | JAV | hello |
19:58.16 | mozrat | <PROTECTED> |
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20:26.33 | knokapix | Hello, anyone out there? I am the worst and I am the best. That will keep the ibot lawyers busy for a while. Such a scary wellcoming message you've got in there. |
20:33.38 | Xotl | are you prepared to defend your statement of simultaneously being best and worst in court? |
20:36.49 | knokapix | If I'd say yes by default I would be sued as a lier. But I would die first of old age before they decide exactly which one is the lie. |
20:39.33 | knokapix | Anyway, are you guys really intending to meet on Saturday in the park? How much distance/walking time from there to the talk/UniWes? |
20:41.05 | Xotl | I'm wondering how many members of the general public will be interested in software freedom day |
20:42.36 | knokapix | This looks like a very busy channel. Could it be that the lawyers have scared anyone out? And they say about terrorists...... |
20:43.54 | Xotl | you only said one thing and you already got sued, so yeah i guess the lawyers scared everyone away |
20:44.28 | knokapix | What am I being accused of? |
20:44.41 | Xotl | simultaneously lying and telling the truth |
20:45.54 | wethrin | It's about half to 2/3 mile from the park to the Uni, going via Tottenham Court Road (rather than direct) |
20:48.19 | knokapix | Thank you very much. And sorry, could you get sued because of only using miles instead of km? |
20:49.48 | Xotl | yeah you get sued by euroibot |
20:52.07 | wethrin | The join-text is basically saying that this channel is publically logged by ibot, so don't say anything you wouldn't normally do in public |
20:54.37 | Xotl | what happens if someone is really rude in public normally and is just being themselves in this channel? |
20:55.43 | knokapix | Sorry, maybe I'm asking something I SHOULD already know, but why is this ibot special? There's always been bots around. I thought this was like being in public. And even easier to kick somebody out without making a mess of blood. |
20:56.22 | wethrin | Xotl: Nothing, then |
20:56.58 | wethrin | knokapix: It's historic reasons due to people complaining about ibot logging |
20:58.08 | Xotl | i assume ibot is covered by the data protection act? |
20:59.37 | wethrin | ibot's US based |
21:00.23 | Xotl | yeah but he's operating here though right? he must be covered by uk law |
21:01.54 | wethrin | No idea |
21:02.04 | wethrin | Most people don't care about it :) |
21:02.40 | Xotl | so maybe the welcome message means you have to defend yourself in a US court? maybe you get to defend yourself at Guantanamo Bay? |
21:02.53 | wethrin | Depends. Does orange suit you? |
21:03.09 | Xotl | I hate the colour orange |
21:03.42 | knokapix | Are also chats being logged? Well, in a private way is not strange, but everything, everything logged and checked? Maybe it will happen with carnivore like with that guy in "The meaning of life". It will explode of so much eating. |
21:04.05 | Xotl | I would have to brush up on my illegal combatant / irc participant laws in order to avoid detention |
21:04.24 | knokapix | As for orange prize or lemon prize I'd prefer lemon. |
21:06.06 | Xotl | the NSA have big databases, I doubt they'll run out of room. I think this irc channel is probably one of their monitoring priorities |
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21:10.42 | knokapix | Are you saying god is with Microsoft? Well, sorry, silly question. |
21:13.37 | Xotl | As anyone at microsoft could explain to you, open source advocates are communinsts, communists want to bring about the downfall of the US, kind of like terrorists. Therefore open source advocates are terrorists. |
21:15.25 | knokapix | I thought terrorists where the ones provoking terror, not the ones receiving it. Marked for life for accessing to an IRC channel... |
21:16.18 | Xotl | ibot is watching you. you cannot turn ibot off. |
21:16.58 | JAV | http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/ |
21:29.35 | Xotl | what's the difference between you guys and Lonix? |
21:31.56 | knokapix | As somebody put it, Lonix would be more like a drinking/socializing club. |
21:34.03 | knokapix | And as somebody put it as well, Lonix and GLLUG were probably the perfect complement. |
21:34.35 | Xotl | gllug is more about presentations and stuff? |
21:36.34 | Xotl | is there quite a lot of overlap in terms of who turns up to the respective meetings? |
21:42.14 | knokapix | In general there is some overlap but not much, though I haven't been to the last meetings. I suppose that before it used to be more common because the gllug meetings weren't very often. |
21:43.45 | Xotl | thanks knokapix. |
21:57.01 | knokapix | It is strange my head is not fed up on storing "strange situations happening around" (sorry guys, I've got copyright of that phrase, whether you like it or not:). The only advantage is that if somebody opens my head the content will be useless. Anyway, has anyone seen Mr Masters latelly. |
21:59.45 | wethrin | ibot lonix |
21:59.52 | ibot | rumour has it, lonix is the other London Linux user group - mainly monthly pub'n'food meetings during the week - http://www.lonix.org.uk |
21:59.56 | wethrin | ibot gllug |
21:59.59 | ibot | methinks gllug is the Greater London Linux User Group at #gllug or http://gllug.linux.co.uk |
22:04.52 | knokapix | ibot microsoft |
22:04.53 | ibot | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners." |
22:05.14 | Xotl | ah, ibot also delivers information. just like big brother. |
22:05.30 | knokapix | I hope lawyers are sleeping. It wasn't me though. |
22:05.57 | knokapix | ibot linux |
22:06.00 | ibot | i guess linux is a steaming pile of groganpaste |
22:06.54 | Xotl | ibot works for the Ministry of Information |
22:09.51 | Xotl | ibot Ministry of Information |
22:10.09 | Xotl | i guess you can only do one word |
22:11.29 | mikejw | ibot 1984 |
22:11.31 | ibot | well, 1984 is a novel about 1999, written by George Orwell in 1948. |
22:11.43 | mikejw | :) |
22:11.47 | Xotl | 1999? |
22:12.41 | Xotl | ibot has re-written 1984 according to instructions from an unseen authourity |
22:13.10 | Xotl | ibot groganpaste |
22:14.13 | Xotl | ibot uses words it does not understand itself |
22:14.49 | mikejw | ibot rdf |
22:14.51 | ibot | it has been said that rdf is Reality Distortion Field, the device Steve Jobs uses to make apple products look more shiny than they really are |
22:16.01 | Xotl | ibot has not heard of resource description framework |
22:16.09 | mikejw | :P |
22:17.45 | Xotl | ibot apple |
22:17.47 | ibot | apple is a "different" computer company :). They are currently known for the iMac, eMac, PowerMac, XServe, iPod, iBook, and Titanium Powerbook. Their computers use (motorola) PowerPC processors, of the G3 (750) and G4 (74XX) nature. the G4 processor has vector processing known as "altivec". Apple can be found at http://www.apple.com, or apple recently adopted the ... |
22:21.22 | iTron | At last, decent thunderstorm hits what I call The Burnt Oak Weather Hole - called so because all the intersting weather always manages to bypass me. |
22:21.51 | Xotl | global warming will soon fix that |
22:22.03 | murb | bah |
22:22.14 | murb | i don't want european galaciers to melt. |
22:22.19 | iTron | Me moving to Japan will also fix that. |
22:22.31 | murb | atleast not before we have developed ski resorts in antartica! |
22:22.50 | iTron | murb: Antartica will melt too you know. |
22:23.12 | Xotl | japan will get so humid it will be like a rainforest |
22:23.24 | iTron | Then there'll be a different problem to worry about - that being London becoming one large swimming pool. |
22:23.26 | murb | Xotl: japan is already quite a dangerious place to ski |
22:23.47 | murb | tends to be high avalanch risk most of the time. |
22:23.59 | iTron | Japan is a dangerous place anyways - typhoons, earthquakes, volcanoes... |
22:24.04 | murb | i know some people like the extra thrill of being crushed under tons of snow ... |
22:24.13 | iTron | japan's a fun place to be. |
22:24.24 | Xotl | iTron: is that why you're moving there, for the exiting weather |
22:24.30 | murb | iTron: i don't know if many skiers have been killed by volcanoes, tyhphoons. |
22:24.30 | iTron | Nah. |
22:24.55 | Xotl | murb: only skiers in japan |
22:25.08 | murb | iTron: only if JAL have a special deals to .au/.nz |
22:25.16 | iTron | Xotl: I'm moving because I despise living in England, plus I don't want my son turning out to be a chav, amongst other extremely good, valid reasons. |
22:25.50 | iTron | Xotl: My wife's Japanese, btw. |
22:26.12 | Xotl | iTron: is she a keen skier? |
22:26.23 | iTron | Xotl: Not that I know of. |
22:26.49 | iTron | I'm also crap at skiing. When I lived in Scotland i tried skiing a few times. The results were... dangerous. |
22:27.39 | Xotl | iTron: and that was without typhoons to increase the danger |
22:27.54 | murb | iTron: well skiing in scotland is a little limited! |
22:28.15 | Xotl | yeah there's only the top bit of ben nevis |
22:28.37 | iTron | I think Someone Up There doesn't want me to ski anyway.. one time I tried the skis kept steering me towards the spkiey wooden fence at the edge of the run, or towards the snowplough. Another time I suddenly came down with flu on the way to the ski slopes. |
22:28.58 | murb | iTron: come to geekski then. |
22:29.03 | iTron | No. |
22:29.04 | murb | learn to apreski properly |
22:29.18 | iTron | Skiing is something I'm not designed for. |
22:29.19 | murb | iTron: it could be worth it just for the apreski |
22:29.24 | Xotl | iTron: don't go skiing in japan then cos you will be one of the ones killed by a volcano whilst skiiing |
22:29.27 | murb | iTron: you could sit on a tray instead |
22:29.44 | Xotl | whats geekski |
22:30.09 | iTron | murb: I went skiing many, many years ago - when global warming didn.t have such an affect on Scotland's weather and we actually had ski slopes to talk about. |
22:30.31 | murb | iTron: you could try Rodelbahning |
22:30.43 | iTron | Bless you. Oh i thought you just sneezed. |
22:31.22 | murb | Xotl: http://www.hands.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geekski and http://fotos.geekski.org/ for previous ones. |
22:31.43 | murb | Xotl: an annual ski trip which so far has taken place in and arround hintertux |
22:31.48 | murb | (which still has a gletcher) |
22:32.06 | iTron | I'd love to try snowboarding though. I used to be very good at skateboarding - there can't be a world of difference between the two ;) |
22:32.10 | Xotl | how can the apres ski be good when there are hardly any women |
22:33.05 | murb | iTron: well quite a few snowboarders at geekski as well. |
22:33.20 | murb | Xotl: hmm? |
22:33.32 | murb | Xotl: are you blind there are of course lots of women! |
22:33.52 | Xotl | on geekski? amazing |
22:34.11 | murb | Xotl: why? |
22:35.14 | Xotl | am i missing something here? almost all geeks are blokes in any environment i've come across |
22:35.40 | murb | Xotl: have you ever been to a ski resort? |
22:36.09 | Xotl | no but i've been to plenty of technical meetings |
22:36.18 | murb | well then. |
22:36.33 | cpufreak | I generally find blokes are outnumbered at ski resorts |
22:36.37 | cpufreak | at least the onesI go to |
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22:37.53 | Xotl | do you go to geekski? |
22:39.36 | Xotl | murb: are there a lot of female linux engineers where you work, then? |
22:40.22 | Jasperw | mmm, good thunderstorm |
22:40.28 | murb | Jasperw: not here. |
22:40.39 | Jasperw | west london |
22:41.09 | murb | oberfranken |
22:51.09 | cpufreak | Xotl: no |
22:51.23 | cpufreak | but no matter who you go skiing with |
22:51.28 | cpufreak | there'll be other people at te resort |
22:52.09 | cpufreak | Jasperw: yeh, its been a entertaining storm to watch |
22:52.20 | cpufreak | (sw3) |
23:01.32 | iTron | Well, the spectre of the Burnt Oak Weather Hole has now been well and truly excised- Nice direct hit from the weather. |
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