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07:27.12SlayerXPallegedly
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07:59.43phearlessgood mooooorning !
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08:07.36morsingCope!
08:07.45Copeello
08:08.07sabinef72hello
08:08.18sabinef72hi morsing !
08:08.29Copecoucou sabinef72
08:08.56sabinef72salut Cope ca va ?
08:09.27Copeoui, pas mal, merci; mais je suis un peut fatiguez
08:10.31sabinef72un peu fatigué ? après un week end ?
08:11.19Copeoui, de rien
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08:19.27morsinghuw-l!
08:19.45popeyMorning all
08:38.20huw-lmorning
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08:44.41morsingErwin!
08:46.13ErwinHome, sweet home. And the great English weather.
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08:46.18morsingeyore:
08:46.35eyorewhat's the daemon that runs updatedb nightly normally.
08:46.48eyoreat least on redhat
08:46.55ErwinNo daemon. Just a cron.daily entry.
08:47.03eyorearg of course
08:47.32ErwinHere on debian /etc/cron.daily/find
08:48.03eyore/etc/updatedb.conf to configure it these day on redhat by the looks of it
08:51.25z00daxeyore: /etc/cron.daily/slocate ?
08:51.48eyoreuses a variable from /etc/updatedb.conf
08:51.59eyoremight just be the fedora server install or something
08:52.56z00daxyou can enable it or disabl it from /etc/updatedb.conf, yes
08:54.59eyoreok really lame question now
08:55.05eyorehow do i check what version i'm running
08:55.13eyoreI thought there was a redhat-version file somewhere
08:55.16eyoreor something like that
08:55.23z00daxrpm -q slocate
08:55.34eyoreI meant of linux :)
08:55.35z00daxoh, cat /etc/fedora-release
08:55.40eyoreta
08:56.02z00daxyou should normally be able to also run lsb_release -a
08:56.28eyorehows that lsb stuff going?
08:57.03z00daxdont think its been going anywhere so far, and thats unlikely to change in the immediate future
08:57.31eyoreshame
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09:04.53morsingLeeds!
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09:22.28morsinggoibhniu!
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09:23.57goibhniumornin morsing
09:25.49cbzmorning
09:29.30morsingcbz!
09:37.34cbzhello
09:56.26eyoreHow can I get the date minus 1 hour in bash?
09:58.17eyoreI have my date formatted like i want with:  date +'%G-%m-%d %k:%M:%S'
09:58.26antiphaseDo it an hour earlier and save the result
09:58.32eyorelol
09:59.08eyoreah I have another idea, I only need this for a database query it may be easier to subtract an hour using the db function
09:59.29Erwindate --date '1 hour ago' +...
09:59.31morsingI need advice on flying to the states...
09:59.49eyoregenius!
09:59.54eyorehow did i miss that on the man page
09:59.56cbzDon't
10:00.04rhowemorsing: Use a plain
10:00.07rhoweer, plane
10:00.35ErwinWell, there shouldn't be anything special about it, I just got back from the third trip this year.
10:01.05ErwinMachine readable passport is all you need, then with visa waiver programme you can stay there for 3 months doing business (not working) or tourism
10:03.07morsingcbz: I do agree, however, I have promised a friend to come visit...
10:03.26morsingErwin: I need a passport I assume. Visa? Anything else?
10:04.05Erwinmorsing: Machine readable password (i.e. with digits/barcode-like thingy). No visa if you are a EU citizen and stay 3 months or less on tourism/business.
10:04.19ErwinYour passport may have to be valid for at least 6 months or such.
10:04.46Erwinhttp://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/visa/niv/vwp.html
10:08.03morsingThanks
10:08.23morsingAlso, what are the UK airports like at the moment for handluggage etc.
10:08.38morsingAm I allowed to bring a book and stuff?
10:08.43morsingToothbrush?
10:09.01rhowemorsing: Take a hatchet, go on
10:09.04rhowemorsing: Please :)
10:09.54rhowemorsing: I think it partly depends on the airline, but so long as you stay away from spiky metal things and liquids they'll probably be fine
10:10.48wethrinmorsing: They should be okay now
10:13.46morsingCool
10:13.57morsing16 hours without anything is depressing
10:14.04morsingCan I bring my teddy?
10:15.39morsingWell, ticket booked :D
10:15.41morsingMoo
10:15.57morsingReturn to LAX £170 + all the nasty fees
10:18.15morsingWhy isn't Henry Gilbert on #gllug? Has no-one invited him?
10:19.33eyorecool my nagios plugin to check whether there have been database additions in the last hour is working
10:19.40eyorethanks erwin
10:21.06wethrinmorsing: That's really cheap
10:21.10wethrinHow did you get that?
10:21.43Erwinrhowe: Yes, no big restrictions. No liquids or liquid-y objects to US.
10:21.57ErwinEh, morsing that is.
10:22.01morsingwethrin: KLM
10:22.07morsingTake-off fare
10:22.13wethrinAnd you have to go via Amsterdam?
10:22.22wethrin"take-off"?
10:22.23Erwin170 UKP return. Huh. I pay 500-1200 to Fresno via LAX or SFO.
10:22.44morsingwethrin: Take-off is non-refundable, well, non-everything really!
10:22.50wethrinahhh
10:22.51wethringotcha
10:22.55wethrinBut, still, fucking cheap
10:23.21morsingErwin: Well, is tooth paste liquid?
10:23.26ErwinWhat site did you find the fare via, and how far in advance?
10:23.38Erwinmorsing: Yes. Even gel shoe insoles are liquid. You can just check those in.
10:23.41morsingwww.klm.com - Going in Feb for 15 days
10:24.25morsingWoo - Dan, here I come - Yay! :)
10:24.47ErwinHmm, expedia wants 437 UKP for that.
10:25.34morsingErwin: It's £293 incl. alll the fees
10:25.41morsingIs yours excluding?
10:26.09ErwinNo, inclusive tax
10:28.33morsingAhh...
10:29.43morsingMy first holiday in 5 years :)
10:31.11ErwinBetter check your passport for machine readability then, if it's really old it may not have that series of digits/barcode
10:35.43morsingErwin: Hmm... Had it made in 2001 or 2002 I think
10:36.17Erwinhttp://www.dhs.gov/Editorial/images/VWP_MachineReadableIcon.jpg
10:37.54morsingOhh It definately has all that!
10:38.18Leedsthey've had them for ages...
10:39.02Leeds<PROTECTED>
10:40.22wethrinhungry for a passport?
10:41.00Leedsfor food/drink
10:41.19ErwinOops, I shouldn't have done Clear Private Data in Firefox; now I need to wait 3 days for Lloyds to send me a new User ID
10:41.24LeedsI haven't consumed either in about 17 hours
10:41.32LeedsErwin: you don't know your id?
10:42.36ErwinLeeds: Nope. It's different than the account #.
10:43.14Leedssure - but I burned mine into my head many years ago... enough that when I had to pick my own id for online banking in HK, I used the same one - different password, of course
10:46.22morsingCheck it!
10:48.43morsing:)
11:07.07keithlardhoot
11:08.27wethrinwoo keef!
11:08.39LeedsI should really get dressed and go pray...
11:09.03rhowemorsing: Going in Feb?
11:09.09rhowemorsing: Not going to miss FOSDEM, I hope
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11:35.50ErwinHuh. I wonder what's happening here. My monitor is shaking
11:36.34ErwinNo explosions, but it must be something to make my monitor move up here on the 6th floor.
11:52.42morsingrhowe: When's FOSDE<
11:52.44morsingM
11:57.28morsingrhowe: Yup - Can't go to FOSDEM!
11:57.31morsing:D
12:09.10morsingPING WETHRIN
12:13.00cpufreakwhats the magic foo to send to /proc/sysrq-trigger to force a remote reboot
12:16.38morsingType 'reboot' at the prompt
12:16.45cpufreakroot@munch:/bin# reboot
12:16.45cpufreak-su: reboot: command not found
12:16.57cpufreakroot@munch:/bin# shutdown
12:16.57cpufreak-su: /sbin/shutdown: Input/output error
12:16.58morsingecho "HEY" > /dev/kmem?
12:17.13cpufreakif you're not going to be sensibkle, fuck off.
12:17.23morsingcpufreak: ?!?!??!?!?
12:17.25morsingEXCUSE ME?
12:17.46morsingHave you tried it?
12:18.17cpufreakroot@munch:/proc# echo b > sysrq-trigger
12:18.22cpufreakthat worked.
12:18.42LeedsI should really get dressed and go pray...
12:19.04cpufreakno but it looked fundermentally like a bad idea.
12:20.51morsingcpufreak: Well, it works on proper OSes
12:21.00morsingHave never tried it on Linux
12:23.58Leeds6 hours to go...
12:24.31cpufreakmy way worked
12:24.54morsingrhowe?
12:39.21morsingLeeds: It's not Thursday
12:39.52Leedsmorsing: no, you're right, it isn't
12:40.33Leedsis there any particular reason to state that obvious fact?
12:44.15morsing13:23 < Leeds> 6 hours to go...
12:44.24morsingYou said you were leaving on Thursday
12:47.26wethrinmorsing?
12:48.55wethrinmorsing: You pung me at 13:09?
12:57.09morsingwethrin: I can't go to FOSDEM :)
12:57.19wethrinmorsing: Why not!?!?!?
12:57.28wethrinIt won't be the same!
12:58.39morsingWon't it? I'll be in California - Woohoo! :D
12:58.59wethrinFiend! Couldn't you have gone the week after? :)
13:09.20morsingNope, my friends are going to NY the last week of Feb
13:09.25wethrinBah
13:24.16Leedsmorsing: why should '6 hours to go' (now 5 hours) refer to my flying back to Hong Kong?
13:35.50morsingLeeds: Because it's you!
13:37.32rhoweStill listening to their queue music
13:38.45morsingrhowe: Try calling Entanet!
13:39.47rhowemorsing: haha
13:39.59rhowemorsing: Don't you know that you need to use their sales number? :)
13:40.57rhowewoo, we just hit 30 minutes
13:41.28rhowemorsing: I've been there
13:41.34rhowemorsing: It has a Marks & Spencers
13:46.09morsingThey have Tony Romas' all you can eat ribs as well...
13:46.28rhoweheh
13:48.31morsingWhat's that command you can run that saves everything from your session?
13:51.10ErwinIRC session?
13:51.19eyorebother
13:51.43rhowemorsing: script(1)?
13:52.04morsingYes! Thanks
13:52.13eyorepartygaming is going to pull out of the US market. There goes my lucrative poker hobby.
13:53.03eyorecrazy americans with there odd laws. what will they do next, bring back prohibition?
13:55.14morsingrhowe: Uhmm... Doesn't really work?!
13:55.20rhoweeyore: Guessing is not allowed!
13:55.27morsingssh never prompts for a passwd
13:55.38rhowemorsing: I think it only works for shell commands, not interactive input
13:56.20morsingI know I've done this before with interactive stuff
13:56.32rhowemorsing: If you want to automatically SSH to places, use keys. If you can't use keys, I've seen tools which claim to feed SSH with a password
13:56.36rhowePreparing to replace libc6 2.3.6.ds1-4 (using .../libc6_2.3.6.ds1-5_amd64.deb) ...
13:56.39rhoweMatching libraries: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.20
13:56.39rhowehmmmm
13:56.42rhoweA copy of glibc was found in an unexpected directory.
13:58.23morsingCheck it!
14:00.12morsingrhowe: I need to save looooaaddds of output from a SAN switch
14:00.33morsingNothing to do with keys
14:01.28morsingHow do I do that?
14:02.18morsingrhowe: Why are you ignoring me?
14:02.26rhowemorsing: Maybe screen can log to a file?
14:02.43rhowemorsing: ^A H
14:02.48rhowemorsing: Looks like that does what you want
14:03.21morsingUhmm... It says screen image written
14:03.35morsingI need contineous writing of about 8000 lines
14:04.14morsingYup - not working
14:05.18rhowemorsing: Uppercase H
14:05.52morsing:)
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14:18.23morsingJasperw!
14:18.29morsingJasperw: Screen rocks!
14:18.48Jasperwgood
14:23.17eyorescreen does indeed rock
14:24.07popeyscreen++
14:32.03cbzThe only problem with screen writing to a file is that it prints the control characters before rather than after they go through the terminal interpretting software
14:32.31eyoreand I can never remember the ctrl keys
14:32.43cbzCtrl-A ?
14:33.36eyoreyeah, like that one
14:34.03cbzYou just have to remember that one.
14:34.34eyorei'm not good with shortcuts
14:34.37eyoreand remembering names
14:34.44eyoreit's amazing i can use linux at all really
14:34.51eyorethe thing which most annoys me
14:35.01eyoreis having to remember several different cut and paste shortcuts
14:35.30eyorejust when i'd mastered ctrl-C and ctrl-V
14:36.26boudiccaseyore; you need pooh to give you your birthday balloon so that you can play with it :)
14:37.05eyoreOne of my fav quirks is copy on paste on firefox/linux. I sometimes copy something like a url and then close the entire firefox and load a new one to test a fresh session
14:37.26eyoreonly paste doesn't work if you closed the firefox you were copying from
14:37.27eyorelame
14:37.43eyoreand of course terminal using shift-ctrl-c
14:37.47eyorei like balloons.
14:37.50rhoweheh, uk.gov on wikis - http://www.idea.gov.uk/idk/core/page.do?pageId=5286927
14:39.09eyoredid you see cameron has a blog
14:39.42eyorea web2.0 style job with video of his screaming kids
14:39.51eyoreit's a vommit enducing PR move
14:40.21eyorehttp://www.webcameron.org.uk/
14:49.29eyorethought the site looked quite nice though, don't know what platform he's using
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15:04.53morsingkeithlard!
15:04.58morsingz00dax!
15:23.06keithlardhey
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15:44.20morsingangelchild!
15:44.25angelchildmorsing!
15:45.34cpufreakdid they give you cake, and flapjacks?
15:45.35cpufreakand tea
15:53.47morsingOr scones?
15:57.42boudiccasor pikelets?
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16:06.58morsingsabinef72_!
16:07.10morsingsabinef72_: Scone?
16:10.35morsing:(
16:13.05boudiccassabinef72_; pikelet? :)
16:15.13cbzare you giving us all pikelets today?
16:15.33boudiccasonly to those who know what a pikelet is :)
16:16.07cbzA drop scone?
16:16.07boudiccasbbiab t time
16:16.16boudiccascbz; nope
16:16.45cbzOkay, that's what they refer to as pikelets in the north
16:16.54cbzI see some disambiguation may be in order
16:23.06morsingibot pikelet
16:23.28morsinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikelet
16:23.30morsing:)
16:26.52boudiccaspikelets are known in the north, in the south they're called 'crumpets'
16:35.23antiphaseAren't you foreign? Foreigners aren't supposed to pick holes in our breakfast heritage ;)
16:35.37antiphaseAlthough North is foreign to us Londoners
16:36.24boudiccasantiphase; no, born and bred in the UK :)
16:37.38wethrinWhat, what? Who dares pick holes in the concept of haggis for breakfast?
16:38.32boudiccasnot for breakfast nit its nice for tea :)
16:38.34eyoreNo need, just pick holes in the concept of haggis.
16:38.38boudiccas*but
16:40.10andrew___does anyone here know what a .a file is on solaris (lib/libmysqlclient.a
16:40.35skuggandrew___: static library.
16:40.42ErwinA collection of .o files with an index, aka static library (like on any UNIX)
16:41.12wethrineyore: Haggis is grrreat!
16:41.34wethrinbah
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20:03.06morsingmikejw!
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20:51.03mikejwmorsing: yo :)
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21:37.28JAVhi
21:58.18morsinghelp
22:02.17morsing<PROTECTED>
22:02.25mikejwwhat's up?
22:02.56morsingMy car has been locked in in a car park k(
22:03.13mikejwdude!
22:03.18mikejwwhere are you?
22:03.37morsingKingston
22:04.00morsingCrashing on a colleagues sofa
22:04.06mikejwok :)
22:04.12mikejweverything else ok?
22:05.19morsingWell' I suppose...
22:05.29mikejw:/
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23:45.09z00daxyay!
23:45.16z00daxanything interesting ?

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