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| 07:06.52 | morsing | 'morning |
| 07:07.21 | sabinef72 | hello |
| 07:14.38 | morsing | sabinef72: :( |
| 07:14.41 | morsing | How are you? |
| 07:19.43 | sabinef72 | I'm fine thank you |
| 07:19.49 | sabinef72 | except this stupid 56 K..... |
| 07:19.52 | sabinef72 | and you ? |
| 07:52.17 | morsing | I'm better thanks |
| 07:52.55 | sabinef72 | that's a good news morsing |
| 08:03.25 | murb | sabinef72: do you have an termin for the repair? |
| 08:07.20 | sabinef72 | murb: can you explain me what is a termin ? |
| 08:08.19 | murb | oh an apointment |
| 08:09.33 | sabinef72 | in fact, my lign is migrating to another place so I just have to wait untill all is repairing |
| 08:10.15 | sabinef72 | line |
| 08:12.32 | murb | sabinef72: lign is the same as line for a railway track? |
| 08:13.00 | sabinef72 | lol |
| 08:13.02 | sabinef72 | not at all |
| 08:13.10 | sabinef72 | it's like the phone line |
| 08:13.30 | murb | hmm, well i am going to luxembourg next week, maybe there will be some french speakers. |
| 08:13.36 | sabinef72 | I made a mistake between lign and line.... sorry |
| 08:14.03 | sabinef72 | yes of course you can speak french in luxembourg. I went there many time when I was a kid |
| 08:14.09 | murb | i should try and relearn some french. |
| 08:14.19 | murb | sabinef72: well *i* can't. |
| 08:14.28 | murb | sabinef72: i worked in luxembourg some years ago. |
| 08:14.28 | sabinef72 | why ? |
| 08:14.37 | sabinef72 | so you are speaking french ! |
| 08:14.45 | murb | non! |
| 08:14.59 | sabinef72 | si |
| 08:15.04 | sabinef72 | you can try |
| 08:15.08 | murb | deutsch und luxembourgisch are more common. |
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| 08:15.18 | sabinef72 | I don't speak a good english, but I try to speak ! |
| 08:15.43 | murb | most of our employees spoke luxembourgisch to eatherother. |
| 08:16.10 | sabinef72 | yes but some are speaking french too |
| 08:16.52 | murb | oh i think they can all speak some. |
| 08:17.12 | murb | as they have some subjects in school taught in french, and others in german. |
| 08:17.46 | sabinef72 | yes |
| 08:18.00 | sabinef72 | but you should try to speak french there |
| 08:19.15 | sabinef72 | german is difficult language |
| 08:23.25 | morsing | German is probably the easiest language there is |
| 08:23.58 | sabinef72 | looool |
| 08:24.02 | sabinef72 | that's not true |
| 08:24.30 | sabinef72 | it's only because german is a little bit similar with danish |
| 08:24.32 | murb | drink more beer then. |
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| 08:34.44 | mozrat_ | Morning ladies and gentlemen |
| 08:35.06 | Lottokim | morning |
| 08:35.07 | morsing | mozrat_! |
| 08:35.53 | morsing | sabinef72: It's not. German is similar to danish but it is very easy to construct sentences and pronounciation is straight forward |
| 08:36.07 | morsing | Sorry, german is NOT similar to danish |
| 08:39.10 | mozrat_ | Does anyone happen to know the email address of the Director General of the BBC? |
| 08:40.53 | mozrat_ | Got it. Thanks |
| 08:41.54 | SlayerXP | <Iain> no, but i think we might have a website somewhere |
| 08:41.55 | SlayerXP | <Iain> also, given that bbc email addresses are always in the format firstname.lastname@bbc, he can probably use a little common sense and work it out for himself |
| 08:45.06 | morsing | Iain: Twat |
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| 08:59.10 | mozrat_ | Whose Iain? |
| 08:59.47 | mozrat_ | ??, /me seems to be missing some lines from this conversation |
| 09:03.31 | mozrat_ | Umm hello? |
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| 10:29.22 | rhowe | If he had, he wouldn't even be attempting communication |
| 10:29.30 | rhowe | (he = mozrat) |
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| 10:38.14 | SlayerXP | gosh, this channel is rocking today |
| 10:38.32 | morsing | MOOOOOOO |
| 10:41.13 | iTron | 0.o |
| 10:41.16 | iTron | morsing! |
| 10:41.24 | morsing | RandonGuy! |
| 10:41.29 | iTron | m |
| 10:41.40 | iTron | morsing: How are you this fine sunny morning? |
| 10:41.55 | morsing | I'm good thanks. You? |
| 10:42.14 | iTron | morsing: I'm good too. And more because I've accepted an offer on the house this morning ;) |
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| 10:45.37 | eyore | god i hate databases |
| 10:46.04 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 10:46.05 | iTron | And they hate you. |
| 10:46.14 | morsing | iTron: Congrats |
| 10:46.20 | eyore | they do indeed |
| 10:46.21 | morsing | More than £1mill? |
| 10:46.28 | iTron | morsing: Heh - if only ;) |
| 10:46.49 | eyore | Actually I don't dislike databases. just SQL |
| 10:47.41 | antiphase | drop database eyore; |
| 10:47.47 | eyore | heh |
| 10:47.51 | eyore | don't tempt me |
| 10:47.56 | cpufreak | eyore: which databases do you use, which don't use SQL? |
| 10:48.17 | iTron | morsing: Anyways - once the sale completes, this paves the way for moving to the land of the giant lizards ;) |
| 10:48.26 | eyore | I use an object-relational mapping with postgresql |
| 10:48.50 | eyore | but i sometimes try to do data migrations using SQL. |
| 10:49.58 | eyore | and in reality you still need to worry about the SQl even with a mapping due to performance |
| 10:50.33 | eyore | I don't know any good free object databases. Gemstone is suppose to be very good |
| 10:50.35 | eyore | but very not free |
| 10:56.40 | morsing | iTron: You don't really like us do you? |
| 10:57.12 | iTron | morsing: Hrm? 0.o |
| 10:57.22 | eyore | where is the land of the giant lizard? |
| 10:57.32 | eyore | far far away? |
| 10:57.33 | iTron | eyore: Godzilla... Japan. |
| 10:57.50 | iTron | Well he's more of a giant mutated lizard I suppose. |
| 10:59.46 | eyore | right, horrible database migration imminent |
| 11:08.19 | eyore | some shell scripts i just tried to kill rather than dieing show as state <defunct> |
| 11:08.24 | eyore | what does that mean |
| 11:08.58 | z0d | Try to kill its parent. |
| 11:09.06 | eyore | cron? |
| 11:09.20 | eyore | oh god i remember this from |
| 11:09.24 | eyore | before |
| 11:09.31 | eyore | it's a zombie process |
| 11:10.06 | iTron | Zombies! |
| 11:11.07 | eyore | /usr/sbin/shootInHead 9845 |
| 11:11.09 | eyore | nope |
| 11:11.22 | iTron | Now try the shotgun ;) |
| 11:11.24 | eyore | I seem to remember previously i had to reboot to remove the zombies |
| 11:18.38 | eyore | think i have the zombies under control |
| 11:18.46 | eyore | is there only suppose to be one crond process? |
| 11:19.44 | eyore | i wonder why i had 4 |
| 11:30.12 | eyore | OMG i do believe it might be working |
| 11:38.00 | morsing | Beer |
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| 11:43.28 | Leeds | I suppose I was expecting too much, for the Northern Line to actually go North |
| 11:43.44 | eyore | okay the efficient way i've written this migration i think it's going to take 6 hours |
| 11:43.47 | Leeds | apparently North now ends at Hampstead |
| 11:44.13 | eyore | you should count yourself lucky, last time i tried it finished a camden |
| 11:44.40 | iTron | Leeds: How far north do you need to go? Mill Hill? |
| 11:45.39 | Leeds | iTron: was wanting to go to Hendon, and expecting to go to Golders Green, since that's what they'd been announcing at Kings X - they changed their minds after I got on the train |
| 11:45.57 | iTron | Leeds: Yes, they always do. :-/ |
| 11:46.08 | Leeds | frankly, if they'd have said Hampstead earlier, I'd probably have got a black cab from KX |
| 11:46.15 | iTron | Leeds: THey couldn't organise a piss-up at a brewery, that lot. |
| 11:49.10 | Leeds | plus, I screwed up my GNER train, and GNER didn't help... when I bought my return on Friday, I apparently left the return leg ticket in the machine - I honestly thought that the "2-PART RETURN" on the ticket I had meant it covered two legs... got to Leeds, wouldn't let me on the train, had to buy a single, was told I could get a refund at KX |
| 11:49.35 | Leeds | get to KX, told that no-body handed in the unused part (i.e. someone nicked it and sold/used it) and that therefore I couldn't get a refund |
| 11:50.16 | Leeds | looking forward to getting the fuck out of this country again |
| 11:50.33 | eyore | sounds like the time i used fast-ticket only to discover they didn't have a machine at waterloo and i ended up buying two singles instead |
| 11:51.08 | eyore | so my cheap fast ticket for £25 saved me a total of about -£90 |
| 11:53.09 | antiphase | Sounds like PEBUAticketmachine |
| 11:53.20 | Leeds | I accept it was partly my fault, but they could be more helpful... |
| 11:53.31 | iTron | Leeds: I accepted an offer on my house so should hopefully be the fuck out of this country before Christmas ;) |
| 11:53.51 | eyore | it was partly my fault too, apparently it gives a warning when you buy a fastticket. available for collection at most mainline stations |
| 11:54.13 | Leeds | and on the leaving the country thing, in HK I would expect it to be handed in - except that of course it would be an e-ticket anyway, normally, in HK - whereas here I'd expect someone to help themselves |
| 11:55.35 | iTron | Leeds: Indeed. |
| 11:55.56 | morsing | Baa |
| 11:56.05 | iTron | Moo |
| 11:57.14 | Leeds | also, quite frankly, it's money I don't want to be wasting right now, being income-less... last time I'm travelling on GNER, unless they make it good |
| 11:58.04 | Leeds | of course, if they had automated ticket-checking systems, they could check if it had been used, and if not, cancel it |
| 11:59.00 | iTron | Leeds: That would require investment in infrastructure! |
| 11:59.24 | iTron | Leeds: Wasteage of valuable profits! |
| 12:00.22 | iTron | I am convinced that the whole of UK industry is designed to Screw You Over. |
| 12:00.35 | iTron | (Probabl true wherever you go) |
| 12:00.43 | iTron | Probably, even. |
| 12:01.16 | eyore | I think a lot of it is just about not giving a shit rather than intentionally screwing people. |
| 12:02.40 | iTron | That is certainly a factor. |
| 12:03.13 | eyore | It's like this friend of mine who took a city lit course and complained because it was crap (she wrote a letter) |
| 12:03.45 | eyore | and they sent here reply about 6months later saying they wouldn't do anything only they didn't pay the postage so she had to pay to receive it. |
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| 12:04.33 | eyore | And like I said to her, yes it may seem like they are taking the piss, but really the whole system is just incompetent it's not like someone is specifically try to screw you. |
| 12:04.58 | eyore | oh dear my english |
| 12:05.19 | eyore | it's just that no one cares, and it's all just process oriented rather than people oriented |
| 12:06.11 | LeedsHK | eyore: don't know what I missed, but that seems to be how life works in this country now |
| 12:06.34 | eyore | you didn't miss anything |
| 12:06.58 | eyore | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.09 | eyore | and they sent her a reply about 6months later saying they wouldn't do anything only they didn't pay the postage so she had to pay to receive it. |
| 12:07.14 | eyore | that's what you might have missed |
| 12:07.52 | LeedsHK | ugh |
| 12:07.56 | morsing | :( |
| 12:08.11 | eyore | Have to admit i would have been pissed off too |
| 12:10.15 | morsing | As much as I was yesterday? |
| 12:10.47 | eyore | what happened yesterday |
| 12:11.28 | morsing | Car park people refused to release my car |
| 12:11.40 | rhowe | morsing: haha, no shit? |
| 12:11.49 | eyore | *sigh* i just accidentily killed my migration script, which was transactional and just rolled back. |
| 12:11.49 | morsing | rhowe: NOT FUNNY! |
| 12:11.56 | eyore | heh, why? |
| 12:12.22 | morsing | rhowe: And I have now been banned because when I went back in the morning I refused to pay my bill and just left |
| 12:12.26 | iTron | morsing: I think that was an incredulous laugh more than a laugh at your expense :) |
| 12:12.29 | rhowe | morsing: Did you show them the registration details? "<morsing> My car! Not yours! Gimme!" |
| 12:12.39 | rhowe | morsing: You've been banned from a car park?! |
| 12:12.39 | LeedsHK | morsing: why did they refuse? |
| 12:12.51 | morsing | rhowe: They had closed about 40 minutes earlier |
| 12:12.59 | morsing | LeedsHK: They had closed about 40 minutes earlier |
| 12:13.14 | morsing | rhowe: My reg has been registered as banned, yes |
| 12:13.22 | rhowe | morsing: Were they supposed to close then? |
| 12:13.26 | morsing | rhowe: Yes |
| 12:13.43 | rhowe | morsing: Did you have a good excuse for being late? |
| 12:14.02 | morsing | But I didn't know, obviously I didn't suspect a major multi-storey car park in the middle of Kingston to close at 9pm! |
| 12:14.25 | rhowe | morsing: 9pm is, like, the middle of the night for UK businesses |
| 12:14.39 | rhowe | morsing: I'm suprised every time I see somewhere open after 4 these days |
| 12:14.42 | eyore | how much was the bill, did they bill you extra? |
| 12:14.51 | morsing | Still, they should be able to release my car for a fee |
| 12:15.41 | morsing | eyore: Don't know tbh. There was also a note on the windscreen saying "next time we will charge you an extra £25 for unauthorised overnight stay" |
| 12:15.57 | rhowe | morsing: Did they threaten to send t'boys round? |
| 12:15.57 | morsing | The bill I ran away from was about £13 I think |
| 12:16.02 | morsing | rhowe: No |
| 12:16.07 | morsing | I just got banned |
| 12:16.22 | morsing | He couldn't do much, tiny asian guy against me and my mate |
| 12:16.39 | rhowe | morsing: Was it an NCP or something? Being banned from every NCP could get inconvenient |
| 12:16.53 | morsing | rhowe: Not NCP. I'll check |
| 12:17.44 | iTron | morsing: Was it worth the 13 quid to get banned? |
| 12:17.50 | morsing | The six storey car park is a joint venture between Kingston Council and Norwich Union |
| 12:17.57 | morsing | The Bentall Centres team will run the car park. |
| 12:18.03 | eyore | did you see that story a while back in the states, where a car park owner of a robotic car park got in a licensing dispute with the software company. The software company pulled out after losing a legal dispute and left all the cars trapped inside. |
| 12:18.15 | morsing | iTron: Yes - it's only the second time in my life I've been to Kingston |
| 12:18.16 | rhowe | eyore: LOL |
| 12:18.31 | iTron | morsing: AH, okay then ;) |
| 12:18.37 | SlayerXP | kingston has one redeeming feature |
| 12:18.38 | iTron | morsing: There si a solution to the ban though... |
| 12:18.50 | iTron | morsing: Use a different car next time you're there ;) |
| 12:18.57 | SlayerXP | once, whilst very drunk, a took a trip over the domino phoneboxes |
| 12:19.00 | rhowe | Or change the plates :) |
| 12:19.13 | morsing | http://www.kingston.gov.uk/information/news_and_events/news/news_2003.htm?id=11685 |
| 12:19.22 | iTron | Sell the plates to someone else - preferably living in kingston ;) |
| 12:19.34 | morsing | iTron: YEs |
| 12:19.41 | rhowe | morsing: Put them on the car park manager's car |
| 12:19.50 | SlayerXP | http://gallery.hd.org/_c/art/_more2002/_more08/phoneboxes-phone-box-red-stacked-domino-in-London-Kingston-England-RF.jpg.html |
| 12:19.58 | rhowe | morsing: Or even the mayor of Kingston's |
| 12:20.04 | morsing | http://www.kingston.gov.uk/ktc_text_d1.asp?RECORD_KEY%5Bcarpark_off%5D=ID&ID%5Bcarpark_off%5D=12 |
| 12:20.14 | morsing | Look at the opening times! |
| 12:21.44 | rhowe | morsing: It's a gov.uk website - you don't expect it to match anything like current reality, do you? :) |
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| 13:01.53 | morsing | mikejw! |
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| 13:04.44 | LeedsHK | okay, possibly alternative, to paying many hundreds of pounds for overweight luggage - pay a couple of hundred pounds, check it in a day early, and send it cargo rather than luggage |
| 13:10.38 | z00dax | LeedsHK: air cargo in the same airline or cargo via a cargo company . aka DHL / FexEd |
| 13:11.01 | z00dax | alternatively, sweet talk an airhostess - they get to carry upto 80 - 100kg's |
| 13:19.39 | LeedsHK | z00dax: same airline, same plane, if I check it in tomorrow (i.e. a day early) |
| 13:20.18 | LeedsHK | what it means is taking 2 of my 3 bags down a day early, paying a lot less, and picking them up at the airport when I arrive |
| 13:24.45 | LeedsHK | woohoo, slackware 11 |
| 13:27.34 | z00dax | LeedsHK: yes, good idea |
| 13:29.49 | hali | still on 2.4.x :) |
| 13:32.45 | antiphase | Looks like the site is mashed |
| 13:33.22 | antiphase | I used to use Slackware. I've no idea why anyone would bother now, the releases come less often than debian stable |
| 13:33.59 | LeedsHK | not going into that now - just to say that 2.6 is also available and supported |
| 13:34.49 | antiphase | Wasn't it optional in 10? |
| 13:35.02 | LeedsHK | yes, but not supported |
| 13:35.09 | phearless | good morning ! |
| 13:35.12 | LeedsHK | oh, and for what it's worth, the FTP site seems to be fast and available |
| 13:36.03 | morsing | Can I legally make a Discovery channel recording available on my server? |
| 13:36.15 | LeedsHK | morsing: almost certainly not |
| 13:37.41 | murb | you can illegally thouhg of course. |
| 13:38.35 | morsing | Even if it's just for download for 2-3 friends? |
| 13:38.55 | morsing | And how bad is it? |
| 13:39.51 | Erwin | How bad is it what? Your chance of getting caught, or the penalty in case you do get caught and lose the case? |
| 13:41.13 | goibhniu | is there a way to bung a process onto the end of a process that's already running? like && but after the first process has kicked off? |
| 13:42.00 | cbz | No |
| 13:42.33 | morsing | Erwin: The penalty |
| 13:42.43 | goibhniu | cheers cbz |
| 13:43.04 | Erwin | goibhniu: Is it running in the background? Then you could do wait <pid> && yourotherthing |
| 13:43.04 | rhowe | Job vacancy here - http://www.wreckage.org/it/sysadmin-job.html |
| 13:43.50 | goibhniu | Erwin: oh cool! that's magic! ty |
| 13:43.51 | Erwin | goibhniu: NB: this is a shell builtin and needs likely to be done from the same shell that spawend the original |
| 13:44.01 | Erwin | Since it is only that shell that will be notified about the original's exit. |
| 13:46.23 | morsing | Erwin? |
| 13:46.47 | iTron | rhowe: But! But I'm not dead yet! |
| 13:47.39 | Erwin | morsing: Dunno the details, but likely the penalty is potentialy ridiculous. Chance of getting caught small though. |
| 13:51.44 | LeedsHK | iTron: that can be arranged... |
| 13:55.55 | murb | iTron: maybe you hvae some gardening leave coming up? |
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| 13:56.20 | mozrat | Hello! |
| 13:56.48 | morsing | mozzie! |
| 13:59.44 | mozrat | hello |
| 13:59.55 | morsing | Cheese? |
| 14:00.00 | mozrat | please!! |
| 14:00.08 | iTron | murb: heheh |
| 14:00.23 | iTron | murb: Nah. I made the mistake of telling $work all my future plans a year or so ago. |
| 14:00.41 | murb | how careless |
| 14:00.59 | iTron | Important Life Lesson #1 : Shut the fuck up about any plans you may have - especially to $boss. |
| 14:18.30 | morsing | Check it! |
| 14:26.15 | cbz | What did you tell them ? that you were leaving in a year? |
| 14:28.56 | iTron | cbz: I layed out a nice proposal for them - a kind of "If I plan to move to Japan I think it's a great idea to provide IT support to that part of the world from there, don't you?" |
| 14:29.06 | iTron | A naiive error on my part. |
| 14:30.16 | cbz | Not always a stupid idea - depending on how understanding your boss/company is. |
| 14:30.28 | cbz | Lesson 2# Gauge your audience. |
| 14:30.47 | cbz | I have two members of my team that work from a, Switzerland. b, Canada. |
| 14:31.19 | cbz | That was agreed upfront on a 'I might move to X cos i'm getting married and plan to move there' basis. |
| 14:31.44 | iTron | cbz: I should have realised they're a bunch of blinkered idiots. In fact I should have realised this is the UK. |
| 14:31.48 | cbz | Though I can imagine that the cost of salaries in Japan may make that less of an option. |
| 14:32.52 | iTron | Anyway, good luck to whomever's replacing me. |
| 14:34.10 | morsing | iTron: I want your job! |
| 14:34.42 | iTron | Hahaha! |
| 14:34.51 | antiphase | Not enough wonga |
| 14:35.02 | iTron | Definitely not enough wonga. |
| 14:36.24 | morsing | ...? |
| 14:36.28 | morsing | ibot wonga |
| 14:37.15 | cbz | hrm gaim not connecting to msn via socks suddenly |
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| 14:42.58 | Cope | and LeedsHK |
| 14:51.28 | morsing | Cope |
| 14:54.15 | LeedsHK | my dad had a look through their proposed letting agreement last night and ripped it to shreds... been in and gone through it clause by clause, pointing out the issues :-) |
| 14:56.30 | Cope | Hi morsing |
| 15:01.52 | iTron | LeedsHK: Heheh |
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| 15:14.14 | rhowe | Leeds: Those things are always full of crap |
| 15:14.28 | rhowe | Leeds: I did the same when I moved to Hendon, although of course the landlord refused to allow changes |
| 15:16.33 | eyore | whilst waiting for this data to migrate i decided to run some queries to see which blogs blog about the most videos. much to my amusement the first video i find is: http://yourdailylesbianmoment.blogspot.com (Note: probably not work safe) |
| 15:17.00 | eyore | you have to love the interweb |
| 15:18.34 | Leeds | rhowe: a) I have an attack lawyer on my side, b) I'm the landlord, i.e. the customer c) some of it is just appalling English, not content - e.g. bonus apostrophes, phrases like "Where the Landlord withdrawl instructions to let the Property" |
| 15:19.20 | eyore | i had a terrible contract at one place i stayed |
| 15:19.59 | Leeds | BTW, is it just me and my mum who are getting lots of bounced spam at the moment, from and to random local parts at real domains? |
| 15:20.24 | eyore | I signed it anyway as most of it was contradictory to my statutory rights |
| 15:20.34 | eyore | like it says he could kick me out immeditely whenever he liked |
| 15:21.02 | eyore | you have a right to a written warning and it's not possible to give up that right contractually |
| 15:21.10 | eyore | written notice rather |
| 15:22.31 | eyore | my current contract stipulated how frequently i must clean the windows |
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| 15:44.00 | skugg | there was a wonderful clause in my last letting agreement, saying, after a whole page of "thou shalt not"s: "other than that, the inhabitant shall *quietly* enjoy the property" (emphasis mine) |
| 15:46.35 | iTron | Everyone should shut the fuck up when at home. Especially neighbours. I don't want to hear your shit when i'm trying to relax. No sirree. |
| 15:52.52 | z0d | rhowe: There's another great book about the relational model: Chris Date: Database in depth. Though this one focuses on theory. |
| 16:22.17 | rhowe | z0d: Does it cover designing from (say) an E-R model down to actually creating tables? |
| 16:22.22 | rhowe | z0d: I'd love a good refresher on that |
| 16:23.26 | rhowe | z0d: Do you know of SQL for Smarties? It sounds from the cover that it's a well known text, but I guess all computer books try that one |
| 16:26.13 | Leeds | ooh, rain |
| 16:28.42 | rhowe | Leeds: In Hendon? Moving south? |
| 16:29.06 | z00dax | its blowing here in Kentish town |
| 16:29.14 | z00dax | no rain as yet, but can almost smell it |
| 16:36.28 | iTron | yeah there's a bit of rain moving from the north-west through the south-east, judging from the radar. |
| 16:48.14 | z00dax | Leeds: I've been getting a few of those as well, 8 in the last 2 days |
| 16:48.29 | z00dax | have not had this sort of spam in a long time ( a year + ? _ |
| 16:50.38 | *** part/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk) |
| 16:51.58 | eyore | i've started getting a lot of picture spam |
| 16:52.03 | eyore | coming through the filters |
| 16:52.13 | eyore | a picture with the advert followed by unrelated txt |
| 16:52.31 | Leeds | yeah, they're annoying |
| 17:03.48 | murb | eyore: if you have a useragent that doesn't know about pictures.. |
| 17:05.53 | eyore | thunderbird |
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| 17:56.15 | morsing | Check it! |
| 18:02.42 | morsing | Hello? |
| 18:03.45 | wethrin | hm? |
| 18:15.56 | morsing | ] |
| 18:16.04 | morsing | wethrin: What did I do? :( |
| 18:21.11 | morsing | ping wethrin |
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| 18:23.59 | morsing | JAV! |
| 18:24.28 | JAV | hello! |
| 19:00.32 | morsing | LeedsHK! |
| 19:00.33 | morsing | ? |
| 19:01.32 | LeedsHK | 8pm, time for dinner |
| 19:01.47 | LeedsHK | then much tidying/packing work |
| 19:02.02 | morsing | It's not Thursday? |
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| 19:08.44 | morsing | sabinef72_! |
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| 19:40.53 | sabinef72_ | arggggggggggg |
| 19:41.31 | sabinef72 | that's better |
| 19:51.33 | z0d | rhowe: I don't know SQL for smarties. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/databaseid/ |
| 20:13.30 | morsing | g'night all |
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| 22:48.43 | wethrin | morsing: ping? |
| 22:48.50 | wethrin | oh. he's gone |
