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05:05.52morsing'morning
05:45.03morsingHello?
05:46.50trousers'ning
06:02.01morsingtrousers!
06:02.45trousersAre you attending LinuxWorld Expo?
06:04.57morsingNope. I have a job
06:05.22trousersHmm, okay then
06:05.38trousersI don't yet...
06:05.42trousersWhere do you work?
06:05.59morsingAttenda
06:06.20trousersWhat do you do there...?
06:06.27morsingAIX admin
06:06.39morsingWhy don't you have a job?
06:07.06trousersBecause I can't legally get a full time job?
06:07.16morsingBecause you're under 12?
06:07.33trousersNo?
06:07.41trousers15
06:07.45morsingAnyone over 12 can get a full time job
06:07.57trousersI thought I could only work certain hours
06:08.27trousersBut I am seeking work experience ;)
06:45.47mozratmorning
06:58.34morsingmozrat!
06:58.56mozratlo
06:59.49morsingI'm hungry
07:10.03morsingmozrat?
07:18.56morsing:(
07:42.16popeymozrat!
07:44.27morsingpopey!
07:58.07mozratHello all!
07:58.26mozratvery cool
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08:04.52mozrat'lo SlayerXP
08:04.56SlayerXPmorning
08:05.29morsingSlayerXP!
08:05.44SlayerXP!!
08:09.54serrisMorning all
08:10.04mozratoooh, hello serris
08:10.13serrisHow are you?
08:10.19mozratGood thanks!
08:10.26serrisGood to hear : )
08:16.27phearlessgood morning !
08:16.34serrisGood morning
08:26.16serrisHi morsing
08:38.49morsingserris!
08:38.56serrisHow's it going? : )
08:39.45morsingOk I suppose
08:39.48morsingYou?
08:39.57serrisI'm alright. Bit tired. Got home from work not long ago
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09:25.09serrisHow's work morsing? Had anything good for breakfast this time ; )
09:44.24wethrinhello
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10:04.40BlaptoI think I'm going mad.
10:05.38Blaptosince when did a debian install not come with ar
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10:19.49goibhniuany plone developers looking for work in London?
10:45.24keithlard_what's plone?
10:52.26Lottokimcms-system
10:53.24goibhniupython based
10:53.30keithlard_woooo
10:57.06goibhniuanyone want to lend me a cat for a week?
10:57.47BlaptoWhat?
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10:58.11goibhniuthese mice are driving me crazy
10:58.29LeedsTreogoibhniu: get a cat?
10:58.46goibhniucats drive me crazy too though :(
10:58.56goibhniuI'd prefer a mouse eating robot to be honest
10:58.59LeedsTreothen get a dog as well
10:59.18goibhniusnakes eat mice don't they?
10:59.29goibhniubut then they sleep for a long time
10:59.31LeedsTreothey do eat mice, yes
11:00.57LeedsTreofriend of mine had a pet snake and didn't realise they'd have to breed mice to feed to it
11:01.15goibhniudo they want some more mice?
11:01.30LeedsTreothere's no point buying them as food, when mice are very good at making more mice :-)
11:01.39goibhniumine don't fall for traps though ... and they're very cheaky
11:01.58LeedsTreono, he disposed of the snake years ago and now has a wife and cute little baby instead
11:06.28LeedsTreoit was quite funny, when I turned my phone on here, I could also see my email softwaream which has "don't connect to GPRS when roaming" set, go "ooh, data - gimme gimme gimme!"
11:07.20LeedsTreos/also/almost/
11:39.14morsingWhy am I tired?
11:40.56goibhniulack of oxygen?
11:43.27morsingHmm...
11:43.33morsingStress? Boredom?
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11:52.21z0d"Better still, don't say anything that you're not prepared to defend in court!". Good one.
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12:01.02sabinef72hello everybody
12:01.08morsingsabinef72!
12:13.48morsingMmm... Tracky bottoms
12:42.26wethrinchavtastic!
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12:43.58z00daxok, so who's taken a G5 apart ?
12:44.21z00daxI need to work out how to get under the lower part of the shell. from what i can make of it, its all bloody welded in together
12:44.23morsingboudiccas!
12:44.50z00daxwhich makes zaru sense. since there are components inside that part
12:45.34wethrinI've not even had a G5 to *not* take apart
12:45.43wethrinz00dax: I'm going to have to do some hex editing on disk. Woo!
12:51.19morsingwethrin: ?
12:52.26wethrinmorsing??
12:52.35morsing13:42 <@wethrin> chavtastic!
12:52.37morsing?
12:52.55wethrinTracky bottoms
12:53.03morsingDepends...
12:53.15morsingFor home use they're not chavistic
12:53.25wethrinTrue
12:53.26z00daxwethrin: go for it -
12:53.37z00daxwethrin: make sure you backup stuff
12:53.40wethrinHahahaha
12:53.42wethrinAhem
12:53.46z00daxmadadm does not like drives with bits missing :)
12:53.49wethrinThat's why I have to do the editing :)
12:54.03wethrinBasically changing the Events number to something else
12:54.10wethrinSomething lower than what's on the correct disks
13:08.03phearlessfor a server, what is the better OS (free of charge) ?
13:08.30wethrinWhat tasks do you want the server to perform?
13:08.37phearlessI think about Centos 4.4
13:08.42wethrinSolaris?
13:09.19phearlessbind9 dhcp samba mail(postfix/fetchmail/etc) svn apache mysql
13:09.46phearlessI do not know Solaris, and prefer Linux
13:09.48wethrinThey'll all be much the same, then
13:09.54phearlessespecially on a x86
13:09.56wethrinPick whatever you're most familiar with
13:10.22phearlessI am more familiar with Ubuntu that Centos/RHEL but Centos seems to be more stable on a long term
13:10.25wethrinMaybe OpenBSD. But probably Free
13:10.52wethrinDebian, then?
13:10.52phearlessdebian is kind of "old"
13:11.07antiphaseUbuntu
13:11.30antiphaseUse 5.10 and you'll be more than stable enough
13:12.21antiphaseWe've got 6.06 stuff in production and had no problems
13:17.49phearlessI really like ubuntu
13:17.56phearlessI use it as desktop at work and at home
13:18.26phearlessbut centos/RHEL seems to be really stable if I want to keep the same OS during 2 or 3 years for example
13:48.31antiphaseUbuntu 6.06 is LTS
13:49.26antiphase5 years of development support guaranteed for the server edition
13:49.50antiphaseAnd the new versions will continue to be developed, and are only a dist-upgrade away
13:50.16antiphaseThere's nothing wrong with RHEL of course
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14:04.13iTron!!
14:07.44morsingRandomGuy!
14:12.40iTronmorsing!
14:20.10morsingHow can I use ~ in a command alias in sudoers?
14:20.57antiphaseI have to ask why
14:21.02SlayerXPmorsing: "don't"
14:22.53antiphaseaen@spitroast:~ $ export HOME='/sbin'
14:22.53antiphaseaen@spitroast:~ $ cd ~
14:22.54antiphaseaen@spitroast:~ $ pwd
14:22.54antiphase/sbin
14:24.37morsingantiphase: Because a costumer wants it done and the costumer is always right
14:25.14rhoweThe customer is often misguided
14:25.37morsingrhowe: However
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14:25.40morsingJasperw!
14:29.05phearlessok antiphase (about ubuntu)
14:29.15phearlessand I think about my CV too
14:29.30phearlessin london, in financial companies, they prefer RHEL, no ?
14:29.55antiphaseI'm sure they do. They'd probably cream their pants if you had RH Certification. That doesn't make it any more worthwhile :)
14:30.20antiphaseA good all-round knowledge of common distros would be useful
14:30.58antiphasePlus Solaris
14:34.28antiphaseThere are bound to be some places that try and use Linux exclusively, but it's likely to largely be a world dominated by reliable paid-for solutions where someone else picks up the blame when it breaks :)
14:44.09morsingCheck it!
14:44.27antiphaseSafe
14:46.17boudiccasload and lock!
14:50.11goibhniuhmmm ... slapd is dying on us consistently around noon every day ... no excuses in the log file ... anyone know of a nice tool to log what's happening ... processes, network activity etc?
14:56.14antiphaseLooking in the crontab for everything that queries it would be a start
15:00.40goibhniuantiphase: cheers
15:02.53phearlessthks for the comments , antiphase
15:06.47antiphaseNo probs d00ds
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15:37.51z00daxhola amigos!
15:46.58boudiccasz00dax; buenos nachas senor :)
16:10.26z00daxboudiccas: i have no idea what that means, but ok
16:16.48boudiccasz00dax; me neither :)))
16:18.36boudiccasz00dax; I think it means "Greetings and Hello, Sir" but i don't know for definite :))))
16:19.24z00daxboudiccas: in which case, hello to you
16:19.40boudiccaslol
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17:03.55sabinef72hi
17:12.31morsingsabinef72!
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18:00.10morsingserris!
18:02.44DavidEdmundsontennis!
18:03.47z0dBadminton!
18:04.04DavidEdmundsonEast Putney!
18:04.55serrisHi, morsing
18:04.59serrisI just woke up
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18:37.24morsing:(
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