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| 06:02.14 | morsing | Leeds |
| 06:02.17 | morsing | ! |
| 06:03.49 | morsing | 'morning all |
| 06:04.02 | Leeds | hi |
| 06:06.04 | pdr | morning |
| 06:35.17 | morsing | pdr! |
| 06:35.49 | pdr | morsing! |
| 07:11.50 | morsing | pdr: You're up early? |
| 07:12.15 | pdr | kinda still up |
| 07:12.29 | pdr | what about you? |
| 07:18.47 | serris | Morning morsing |
| 07:20.14 | morsing | serris! |
| 07:20.19 | morsing | pdr: I'm always up early |
| 07:20.26 | serris | How's it going? |
| 07:26.38 | morsing | Fine I suppose |
| 07:26.50 | serris | That's good : ) I just got off work |
| 07:27.33 | morsing | Nice |
| 07:27.36 | morsing | Bedtime then? |
| 07:27.39 | serris | Nope |
| 07:27.50 | serris | Waiting for 2 hours for the shop to open so I can go back to go buy food |
| 07:28.04 | serris | And yeah I agree it's good. I managed to escape without another bollocking |
| 07:30.21 | serris | =/ |
| 07:30.24 | morsing | HG is a genius |
| 07:35.27 | morsing | mozrat? |
| 07:37.15 | mozrat | Hello |
| 07:37.29 | mozrat | Sorry - yes, He may be a mad scientists or an evil genius |
| 07:37.34 | mozrat | I have no idea which |
| 07:47.07 | morsing | serris: Where do you work? |
| 08:27.33 | sabinef72 | good morning ! |
| 08:55.25 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 09:04.40 | sabinef72 | hi morsing |
| 09:08.47 | morsing | :) |
| 09:28.08 | trousers | Guten morsing :P |
| 09:28.54 | trousers | Hmm, work experience is looking fairly good for a placement at ARM *crosses fingers* |
| 09:29.54 | trousers | The person I'm in contact with still needs to check if there *are* any places though :( |
| 10:15.10 | z00dax | hello hello! |
| 10:16.12 | z00dax | trousers: arm cambridge ? |
| 10:16.29 | trousers | ARM Maidenhead |
| 10:16.49 | trousers | Why did you mention ARM Cambridge? |
| 10:17.11 | z00dax | i know a few people up there |
| 10:17.20 | trousers | Cool |
| 10:18.26 | trousers | Although Cambridge is just as far as Maidenhead, really :( |
| 10:19.51 | morsing | z00dax: Where's your page on remote Debian installs? |
| 10:20.31 | z00dax | morsing: i dont do debian |
| 10:21.03 | z00dax | http://www.karan.org/blog/index.php/2005/06/15/ |
| 10:21.17 | z00dax | is a remote install page for RH / CentOS / Fedora and derevatives |
| 10:21.26 | z00dax | and morsing, how are you doing ? :) |
| 10:22.48 | morsing | z00dax: Uhmm... Since when and why did you take the page down? |
| 10:23.32 | z00dax | morsing: i just gave you the link... |
| 10:23.38 | z00dax | I've never had a page for debian |
| 10:27.38 | mozrat | z00dax: put the Debian page back up, meanie |
| 10:29.49 | z00dax | mozrat: :) |
| 10:29.55 | z00dax | ok, you write it. I'll host it |
| 10:30.06 | z00dax | btw, mozrat ever seen this : http://www.i9technologies.com/isymphony |
| 10:30.56 | z00dax | and also, how was your sojourn around europe |
| 10:32.48 | mozrat | z00dax: was quick but fun |
| 10:33.09 | mozrat | Amazingly took longer to get from Barcelona to Madrid than Madrid to London the next day |
| 10:33.12 | mozrat | figure that one out |
| 10:34.02 | mozrat | that product looks good |
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| 10:52.05 | mozrat | Hello Leeds |
| 10:53.05 | sabinef72 | Leeds !!!!! |
| 10:53.58 | sabinef72 | well ... time for lunch |
| 10:54.01 | sabinef72 | see you later men |
| 10:54.52 | mozrat | Bon Appetite |
| 10:55.14 | sabinef72 | (bon appétit) |
| 10:55.18 | sabinef72 | merci mozzie |
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| 11:08.20 | morsing | z |
| 11:11.15 | Leeds | getting to dinner time... last thing I ate was breakfast about 9 hours ago... it's possible this whole acupuncture thing is working |
| 11:13.13 | mozrat | Never liked the idea of acupuncture |
| 11:14.04 | Leeds | because of needles? |
| 11:14.10 | Leeds | of because of pseudo-science? |
| 11:15.31 | Leeds | or because you hate China and everything which comes from here? |
| 11:17.03 | mozrat | Mainly number 1 |
| 11:17.15 | mozrat | I don't mind needles as such.. I have injections and I give blood |
| 11:17.33 | mozrat | But I wouldn't much fancy sitting for an hour with a dozen sticking out of my back |
| 11:17.47 | mozrat | Number 2 I am receptive to |
| 11:18.00 | mozrat | Number 3, not at all. I love IBM Thinkpads and Chinese food |
| 11:18.43 | Leeds | ah, what I had wasn't that sort of thing... the bloke is one of my sister's best friends (and, incidentally, not a brainless new-age weirdo or anything - a good bloke) who came over to our house just before the fast last week... |
| 11:19.53 | Leeds | he felt for my pulse, not the regular one, stuck a couple of needles in my wrists to calm me down - only in a few mm - then moved on to my ear. My dad and sister also had it done - it's a varient of a popular technique in Leeds, at the moment, hitting 2 or 4 points to lower appetite |
| 11:20.33 | mozrat | I imagine it works, and I guess I'd have it done if someone offered |
| 11:20.44 | mozrat | but I wouldn't go out looking to get it done, (if that makes sense) |
| 11:20.49 | mozrat | This irks me http://linux.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/redhat-l/file-auditing-capabilities-1059204 |
| 11:21.04 | mozrat | I'm trying to research how to implement file auditing in Linux/OS X |
| 11:21.14 | mozrat | so you can see when selected files were read/written to |
| 11:21.20 | Leeds | the most popular version involves a thread running between two points, but Andy doesn't like that version, so instead he put 4 little pins - like drawing pins, but again only going in a couple of mm - in the ear, and covered them with plaster. A week later and they're still in, but he pulled the needles out of my wrist in about 10 minutes |
| 11:21.29 | mozrat | the answer according to this bloke is to write a loadable kernel module |
| 11:21.49 | Leeds | you want it for all programs, system-wide? |
| 11:22.00 | Leeds | and all files? |
| 11:22.06 | mozrat | Not very helpful - why would someone respond like that? It's obvious less than 2% of all Linux users have the ability to do this |
| 11:22.11 | mozrat | No, just for certain files |
| 11:22.32 | mozrat | So I can monitor access to a few files and directories |
| 11:22.56 | mozrat | You still have them in your ear? |
| 11:22.56 | Leeds | I would say a *lot* less than 2% |
| 11:23.02 | Leeds | yup, still in |
| 11:23.11 | mozrat | Leeds: Yes, 2% is wildly optimistic |
| 11:23.25 | Leeds | but for all programs accessing those certain files/directories? |
| 11:23.38 | mozrat | Yes |
| 11:23.53 | Leeds | well, you could do it with dtrace^Wsystap |
| 11:24.57 | mozrat | There should be a userland way of doing this.. surely people have this request fairly often |
| 11:25.14 | Leeds | there's always inotify, possibly |
| 11:25.25 | mozrat | Not a helpful statement but it's easy to setup on Windows, although the logging is fairly cryptic |
| 11:25.48 | Leeds | http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-inotify.html |
| 11:25.57 | mozrat | *click* |
| 11:26.54 | mozrat | Looks good |
| 11:27.18 | Leeds | dunno what there is in the way of off-the-shelf tools for it though - inotify is really the kernel bit |
| 11:30.39 | mozrat | http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-audit@redhat.com/msg00454.html |
| 11:30.43 | mozrat | it appears this isn't possible |
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| 11:31.08 | Leeds | nothing is impossible if you can imagine it! |
| 11:31.50 | Leeds | so do you want to implement highly granular access controls, or do you just want to watch? |
| 11:31.59 | mozrat | Umm, We do possible, the impossible just takes longer, something something |
| 11:32.14 | mozrat | Leeds: just to watch and know when people read/wrote to the file |
| 11:32.25 | mozrat | I can stop them writing or reading it with chmod |
| 11:32.36 | Leeds | then inotify should be able to do that. no |
| 11:32.37 | Leeds | ? |
| 11:32.43 | mozrat | but - if 10 users have the ability to write to a file based on their group memberships, which ones did and when? |
| 11:32.48 | keithlard_ | "The illegal we can do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer." - Henry Kissinger. |
| 11:32.58 | mozrat | keef, lol :-) |
| 11:33.09 | Leeds | keithlard_: good thing that no longer applies, huh? :-) |
| 11:33.11 | mozrat | Leeds: I guess. I haven't looked at it before |
| 11:33.24 | mozrat | Leeds: btw - I am a rockbox user now also. It's quite good |
| 11:36.14 | Leeds | hmm... it appears that inotify is no longer using a device |
| 11:37.22 | mozrat | Leeds: there is an "auditd" daemon which might do the job if I filter the system calls |
| 11:37.28 | mozrat | sounds like heavy work though |
| 11:37.44 | Leeds | hmm... it doesn't obviously seem like inotify provides the user who caused the event to fire |
| 11:38.35 | mozrat | excuse my flood |
| 11:38.38 | mozrat | # ----- File System audit rules ----- |
| 11:38.38 | mozrat | # Add a watch on "passwd" with the arbitrary filterkey "fk_passwd" that |
| 11:38.38 | mozrat | # generates records for "reads, writes, executes, and appends" on "passwd" |
| 11:38.38 | mozrat | -w /etc/passwd -k fk_passwd -p rwxa |
| 11:38.38 | mozrat | # Add a watch "etc" with a NULL filterkey that generates records "reads |
| 11:38.40 | mozrat | # and executes" on "etc" |
| 11:38.43 | mozrat | -w /etc -p re |
| 11:38.46 | mozrat | that looks like it, eh? |
| 11:39.05 | Leeds | possibly |
| 11:50.07 | wethrin | hi |
| 11:54.09 | Leeds | time to switch off my TV set (laptop) and go and do something less boring instead - like eating dinner |
| 11:54.22 | wethrin | I just had breakfast |
| 11:54.30 | wethrin | It involves venison sossidges |
| 11:55.15 | Leeds | I had breakfast about 10 hours ago, and I haven't eaten since... I had Scottish porridge, corn fritters, coffee and juice |
| 11:55.38 | wethrin | Tasty :) |
| 11:57.29 | Leeds | in a nice little cafe, with a PC for customers to go online... I was waiting for the Aussie teacher who was using it to finish writing a long email on hotmail, when a friend of hers came in... About 45 minutes of them chatting later, I asked her, politely, if she would move away from the PC so I could use it :-) |
| 11:58.58 | Leeds | anyway, *gone* to find food - Indian, Thai, something like that, I think |
| 12:00.20 | mozrat | Bah, my kernel doesn't support file system watches |
| 12:00.24 | mozrat | NUTS |
| 12:00.45 | boudiccas | whole hazel nuts! |
| 12:00.54 | mozrat | Indeed |
| 12:01.15 | boudiccas | cadburys bake them and cover them with chocolate |
| 12:02.16 | wethrin | Mmm....chocolate |
| 12:02.31 | boudiccas | too early for beer :( |
| 12:03.22 | wethrin | No, it's after midday |
| 12:05.52 | boudiccas | i prefer my beer in the evening :) |
| 12:05.59 | wethrin | not all day? :) |
| 12:07.21 | boudiccas | no, it tends to make me sleepy |
| 12:07.41 | wethrin | Have coffee in the middle of the day |
| 12:07.59 | boudiccas | that last batch of beer i brewed is turning out to be the cats whiskers, ace! |
| 12:08.26 | boudiccas | wethrin; i am doing, atm :) |
| 12:09.28 | wethrin | Ooh, nice! |
| 12:09.32 | boudiccas | if you can do ... service iptables start ...... why can't you do ... service kernel start? |
| 12:09.33 | wethrin | Bottle one and send it up north? |
| 12:09.41 | wethrin | Because the kernel's always running |
| 12:09.53 | wethrin | To stop the kernel, run 'shutdown' |
| 12:10.02 | boudiccas | its all bottled in 2-litre plastic bottles :) |
| 12:10.25 | wethrin | Classy :) |
| 12:10.27 | boudiccas | so, iow, reboot |
| 12:10.32 | wethrin | yeah |
| 12:10.41 | wethrin | iptables can be enabled or disabled |
| 12:10.56 | boudiccas | think i'll leave it till i reboot naturally |
| 12:11.21 | boudiccas | i just used iptables as an example |
| 12:12.04 | wethrin | okay. A lot of services can be enabled/disabled :) |
| 12:12.32 | boudiccas | plus, you can create your own services too :) |
| 12:13.07 | boudiccas | I've created one that runs 'folding@home' on reboot, and also disabled a lot of things that i don't need/use/want |
| 12:15.39 | wethrin | right |
| 12:18.34 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 12:19.34 | boudiccas | morsing; yes? |
| 12:24.01 | wethrin | morsing! |
| 12:33.44 | morsing | Scones |
| 12:42.00 | wethrin | Anyone with a car feel like picking up a PDP in a couple of weeks time? :) |
| 12:42.25 | wethrin | In Bedfordshire, so not too far away from you southerners |
| 12:42.43 | hali | car? or 18-wheeler trailer? :) |
| 12:42.45 | wethrin | morsing? :) Use it as an excuse to come up to Durham too! |
| 12:42.48 | wethrin | hali: Car |
| 12:42.52 | wethrin | It's a very small machine |
| 12:42.57 | wethrin | Fits underneath a VT100 |
| 12:43.08 | wethrin | PDP + VT100 + manuals |
| 12:45.08 | z00dax | does it run linux ? |
| 12:45.51 | morsing | z00dax: Why would you even do that?? |
| 12:46.02 | z00dax | why not |
| 12:46.50 | hali | it runs bsd :) |
| 12:47.00 | hali | good enough |
| 12:47.59 | z00dax | maybe good enough, |
| 12:48.10 | z00dax | ... to try a linux bootstrap and get it to use linux, and make it usable |
| 12:48.19 | z00dax | but, no - i am al arch'ed up for the moment |
| 13:08.32 | wethrin | :) |
| 13:17.44 | serris | Hi z00dax |
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| 13:22.59 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 13:23.27 | wethrin | Okay - if I have a time in seconds-since-the-epoch (i.e. unix timestamp), how do I display it in a user-friendly format? |
| 13:27.35 | Jasperw | what programing language? |
| 13:27.53 | Jasperw | or try date -r |
| 13:27.57 | wethrin | Any. Preferably shell :) |
| 13:28.18 | wethrin | date -r displays the last modification time of a file |
| 13:28.24 | mentor | perl? |
| 13:29.17 | wethrin | Could do |
| 13:29.54 | morsing | :( |
| 13:30.24 | rhowe | wethrin: I think date can do that |
| 13:30.43 | mentor | date -d '1970-01-01 $(TIMESTAMP) sec' |
| 13:30.51 | wethrin | Ah |
| 13:30.52 | morsing | Check it! |
| 13:31.21 | wethrin | mentor: Cheers |
| 13:31.47 | morsing | mentor: Where have you been all this time? |
| 13:32.24 | rhowe | $ date -d "1970-01-01 1 sec" +%s |
| 13:32.25 | rhowe | -3599 |
| 13:32.28 | rhowe | hmm |
| 13:32.33 | morsing | rhowe! |
| 13:32.57 | rhowe | $ date -d "1970-01-01 $((60*60)) sec" +%s |
| 13:32.57 | rhowe | 0 |
| 13:33.11 | rhowe | Seems it counts from 0100h on the 1st day of 1970? |
| 13:33.24 | mentor | Are we still in BST? |
| 13:33.31 | rhowe | ahh :) |
| 13:33.52 | mentor | date -ud |
| 13:34.04 | rhowe | That does the trick |
| 13:34.07 | wethrin | oh, woo! RAID set identifier 0 is in a different place in the superblock to RAID set identifiers 1, 2 and 3 |
| 13:34.26 | wethrin | Silly programmers. No cookies! |
| 13:37.32 | rhowe | hmm.. I wonder what time the supermarkets in Chinatown close on Sunday |
| 13:37.36 | rhowe | Probably quite early |
| 13:37.51 | morsing | rhowe: Why are you ignoring me? |
| 13:38.03 | rhowe | morsing: I'm not! |
| 13:38.19 | rhowe | morsing: Make gnucash faster for me |
| 13:39.16 | morsing | Gnocchi? |
| 13:39.33 | rhowe | gnucash - it draws its graphs too slowly |
| 13:39.41 | z00dax | serris: hi |
| 13:39.42 | morsing | Ahh... I prefer gnocchi |
| 13:40.00 | z00dax | do people have an opinion on the Nokia E61 ? |
| 13:40.15 | z00dax | I had a play with one of them today, and it seems to have a better feature set than the Treo 650 |
| 13:40.25 | rhowe | woo, nice gcc breakage with XFS |
| 13:40.35 | rhowe | fs/xfs/xfs_inode.c:4741: error: unable to find a register to spill in class ‘DREG’ |
| 13:41.19 | z00dax | stuff like xfs etc, dont really belong in the kernel build cycle :) |
| 13:41.38 | rhowe | z00dax: I can't be arsed with the whole initrd thing :) |
| 13:41.44 | rhowe | initramfs, etc |
| 13:41.49 | z00dax | humm.. ah. |
| 13:51.08 | z00dax | so.. anyone used / played with an E61 ? |
| 13:54.40 | Leeds | still liking my Treo |
| 13:55.00 | z00dax | its double the price of a E61 |
| 13:55.09 | z00dax | a.an |
| 13:55.10 | wethrin | Hm. So I could frob the superblocks of the dodgy disks so that they're consistent with those of the working disks, or frob them so the event numbers are lower, and the correct superblocks will be forcibly written to them. What should I do? |
| 13:56.05 | Leeds | wait for the 680 to come out in a month or two |
| 14:09.17 | morsing | Check it! |
| 14:14.14 | rhowe | hmm |
| 14:14.20 | rhowe | gcc dying on 2.6.18 |
| 14:15.11 | z00dax | rhowe: which gcc ? I use 4.1 for my rawhide stuff |
| 14:15.29 | rhowe | z00dax: 4.0.4, it seems. That's probably why |
| 14:18.14 | rhowe | This box is pretty out of date |
| 14:53.10 | wethrin | I have tea. |
| 14:53.19 | rhowe | hmm |
| 15:17.48 | serris | hi all |
| 15:18.00 | rhowe | mm, ovaltine |
| 15:27.23 | mozrat | serris: good sleep? |
| 15:28.16 | wethrin | hey! |
| 15:28.20 | wethrin | I just fixed my RAID array! |
| 15:28.24 | wethrin | I'm entitled to bounce! |
| 15:28.39 | wethrin | Read Planet Gllug when it updates |
| 15:29.50 | mozrat | woo |
| 15:30.04 | mozrat | yay for not backing up 1TB on £10 :-) |
| 15:30.38 | mozrat | £100 even |
| 15:30.47 | wethrin | :) |
| 15:30.58 | wethrin | I've made a new entry. So when planet updates.... |
| 15:33.51 | mentor | erg |
| 15:34.01 | mentor | There's lots of sin under the washing machine |
| 15:35.31 | mozrat | There is? |
| 15:39.07 | wethrin | has someone left a porn DVD down there? :) |
| 15:46.46 | serris | mozrat: actually no. 3 hours of sleep that got broken 5 times cause of neighbours, phone and etc |
| 15:46.54 | serris | Just got back from shopping so eating breakfast |
| 15:48.17 | serris | Jumbo hotdogs with sauerkraut |
| 15:49.01 | serris | How's it going mozrat? |
| 15:56.27 | z00dax | serris: which country are you in ? |
| 15:56.48 | z00dax | breakfast at 5pm can be .. ummm... rather unhealthy |
| 15:57.02 | z00dax | unless of-course you only had yesterdays dinner at 10am today |
| 15:58.18 | serris | yesterday's dinner was around 3AM todaywhich consisted of a sainsbury's chocolate cake |
| 15:58.34 | z00dax | hummm |
| 15:58.53 | serris | cya |
| 16:17.31 | z00dax | s/nodes/notes/ |
| 16:18.50 | z00dax | Leeds: .hk ? |
| 16:18.58 | rhowe | http://video.linux-noob.com/screenshots/ie7/xpspyware.jpg |
| 16:19.24 | keithlard_ | would anyone like a brownie? |
| 16:19.30 | z00dax | ok, so i officially hate the 'x' tab close buttons per tab |
| 16:19.34 | z00dax | in FF-2rc |
| 16:19.39 | z00dax | keithlard_: me! me! |
| 16:19.57 | z00dax | email it over |
| 16:20.00 | keithlard_ | you can have a real one tomorrow, the others will have to make do with irc brownies |
| 16:20.08 | z00dax | awrite! |
| 16:20.14 | keithlard_ | ;-D |
| 16:20.37 | z00dax | also, now that i am showered, i should go out for a bit and be seen in the local social scene a bit. its been weeks since i was seen in the 'hood |
| 16:20.47 | z00dax | dont want people to fergit i livez here. |
| 16:20.52 | z00dax | bbl |
| 16:34.09 | wethrin | hello |
| 16:38.46 | wethrin | I am teh l33t h4xx0r. I must be, because I'm watching compile messages scroll by </gentoo-user> |
| 16:39.07 | mozrat | I feer wethrin |
| 16:39.43 | wethrin | FOSDEM have a new site up! |
| 16:39.54 | morsing | FOSDEM has a site?! |
| 16:39.59 | wethrin | www.fosdem.org |
| 16:40.07 | wethrin | New site as of today, it seems |
| 16:43.32 | wethrin | mozrat: You'll be at FOSDEM, won't you? |
| 16:45.21 | sabinef72 | hi |
| 16:45.24 | wethrin | hi |
| 16:45.33 | sabinef72 | hi wethrin |
| 16:46.51 | sabinef72 | morsing come back ! |
| 16:47.10 | mozrat | wethrin: Never been before - I'd like to go |
| 16:47.29 | z00dax | unless something mad decides to happen at the same time |
| 16:52.10 | z00dax | mozrat: do you know if there is any move at Suse to get AppArmour into Linux ? |
| 16:52.34 | mozrat | Into the vanilla kernel? |
| 16:53.15 | mozrat | It talks to the LSM so I think it has all the kernel inclusion it needs? |
| 16:53.29 | mozrat | LSM is in the main kernel tree right? |
| 16:54.02 | z00dax | humm... yes |
| 16:54.33 | mozrat | I don't think it makes other changes to the kernel (I *think*) |
| 16:54.38 | mozrat | but I'm not 100% sure |
| 16:54.56 | z00dax | really ? no other kernel space stuff ? |
| 16:55.18 | z00dax | iir linux security went in with 2.6.12 or something there abouts |
| 16:55.42 | z00dax | and exists for 2.4 as well... so does / would apparmour work there too ? |
| 16:56.04 | mozrat | I believe so |
| 16:59.45 | z00dax | for fuck sake, i've now had a mobile phone bill that says i am £189 in Cr with Vodafone. |
| 17:01.44 | z00dax | "Discount on 6 Pounds Extras Pack - Regular" Cr £152.10 |
| 17:02.05 | z00dax | how do I get a 152 pound discount on a package that costs 6 pounds ??? |
| 17:05.06 | Leeds | don't moan! :-) |
| 17:05.40 | z00dax | the problem i have is that the last time Vodafone did this - they then went on to over charge me for 4 months after ( was in 2004 ) |
| 17:05.53 | z00dax | and it took me another 6 months to get that extra money back |
| 17:06.40 | z00dax | I bet my next months DDebit will have an £152.10 extra added on top, and i'll need to go back and tell them that i never really had to give them that money |
| 17:07.25 | morsing | ping mozrat |
| 17:08.23 | Leeds | wow - 600KB/s torrenting... |
| 17:08.56 | Leeds | and that's throttled :-) |
| 17:09.26 | z00dax | Leeds: interested in http://www.weroy.org/ |
| 17:09.28 | z00dax | ? |
| 17:10.05 | Leeds | loading... |
| 17:10.51 | z00dax | I have that torrent, took 5 days to get... but now that I have it, i can put it behind a ftp:// or a http:// on a 20mbps link |
| 17:12.52 | Leeds | looks interesting |
| 17:14.42 | Leeds | right now I'd get the low-res one - don't have the disc space for the iso, really |
| 17:19.50 | Leeds | zzzzz..... |
| 18:06.51 | morsing | Leeds? |
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| 18:18.45 | morsing | Leeds? |
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| 18:28.24 | morsing | Erwin! |
| 18:29.47 | Erwin | evening |
| 18:30.34 | pdr | evening all! |
| 18:30.48 | pdr | Leeds: are you back in HK now? |
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| 18:42.57 | morsing | mikejw |
| 18:43.03 | morsing | LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDS! |
| 18:43.17 | mikejw | morsing: howdy |
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| 18:55.42 | JAV | hello |
| 19:13.28 | wethrin | mozrat: It's fun! |
| 19:34.35 | mozrat | Gah, terminal emulators such as Gnome Terminal SHOULD NOT have keybindings for menus |
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| 19:38.56 | mozrat | Was that our Slayer? |
| 19:39.52 | serris | I agree mozrat. Wasn't very useful when I was trying to get to the Jed menu in the Terminal supllied with XFCE |
| 19:41.25 | mozrat | *nod* |
| 19:41.31 | mozrat | serris: what is your real name? |
| 19:44.31 | serris | Andras. Yours? |
| 19:44.43 | mozrat | Simon... |
| 19:44.56 | mozrat | Just wondering, I wonder if you were someone else from the mailing list. No matter |
| 19:44.59 | mozrat | are you working tonight? |
| 19:45.02 | serris | Nope |
| 19:45.09 | serris | Off! |
| 19:45.13 | mozrat | Good! |
| 19:45.16 | serris | I just joined the mailing list |
| 19:45.21 | mozrat | Cool |
| 19:45.32 | serris | First mailing list I actually joined |
| 19:46.49 | mozrat | Cool - did you read the GLLUG FAQ yet? Has some pointers about how to post to the list |
| 19:47.19 | mozrat | http://www.hinterlands.org/gllugfaq/ |
| 19:47.26 | serris | Not yet. I joined it when I started work so I've been in a slight haze since that day. I just woke up again with a splitting headache and no cigarettes : ( |
| 19:47.36 | serris | Thanks for the link. Let me take a quick look |
| 19:48.05 | mozrat | Main things to remember are about top posting (or not doing it) and sending emails in insane formats |
| 19:48.44 | serris | Okay |
| 19:48.50 | serris | Thanks : ) |
| 19:49.01 | serris | Are you attending this years Linux World Expo? |
| 19:49.16 | mozrat | serris: Yep, I'll be on the GLLUG stand both days probably |
| 19:49.20 | mozrat | or wandering around a bit |
| 19:49.29 | serris | Nice. I'll probably see you on the 25th then : ) |
| 19:49.37 | mozrat | excellent |
| 19:49.55 | serris | Indeed. I got work the next day which is a shame. Else I would've gone |
| 19:50.20 | mozrat | To be honest, if you are visiting rather than manning a stand both days is overkill |
| 19:50.32 | serris | yep |
| 19:50.37 | serris | I've been to it twice |
| 19:50.58 | serris | It's good fun |
| 19:51.08 | mozrat | it is |
| 19:51.10 | serris | I also enjoyed going to the Security expo a few years ago at Olympia |
| 19:51.38 | mozrat | InfoSec? |
| 19:51.43 | serris | Yeah |
| 19:51.56 | mozrat | Never been, heard it is good |
| 19:52.44 | serris | It's pretty fun |
| 19:53.12 | serris | I need to find my Oyster cards. I'm bringing my by then wife to the Linux expo. She's never been |
| 19:53.58 | mozrat | Oh, congratulations.. When are you getting married? |
| 19:54.06 | serris | Friday |
| 19:54.18 | mozrat | No way! |
| 19:54.20 | mozrat | Congrats |
| 19:54.23 | mozrat | Where? |
| 19:54.52 | serris | Thanks. Yeah. Housnlow, we thougt it was rather funny that it'll be 13th of October |
| 19:55.16 | mozrat | At least it will be easier for you to remember in years to come |
| 19:55.32 | serris | yep |
| 19:56.06 | serris | I managed to get the nights off besides saturday |
| 19:56.19 | serris | =/ so I got work on Saturday the next day |
| 19:57.13 | mozrat | :( |
| 19:58.02 | serris | That's ok. I didn't wanna screw over my manager cause I like that one so I didn't try to force it too much plus that'd be 7 nights on the trot which I tend not to like |
| 19:59.10 | mozrat | right |
| 20:00.08 | mozrat | Back later..... |
| 20:00.12 | mozrat | TV time |
| 20:00.18 | serris | Cya : ) |
| 20:04.09 | skugg | i'd consider going. if it wasn't at bloody olympia. it's such a drag t oget to... |
| 20:04.43 | serris | It's not that bad, it just means I have to take a few busses rather than take the car |
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| 21:30.04 | mikejw | is it still possible to go to linuxworld for free? |
| 21:30.28 | serris | I think so |
| 21:30.38 | mikejw | but you miss the talks right? |
| 21:30.48 | serris | Well the conference costs money |
| 21:31.12 | serris | They give you a reduction in price for the conferences, which will still cost some money |
| 21:31.21 | mikejw | ok |
| 21:31.42 | mikejw | I hope to come along like last year anyway :) |
| 21:31.55 | serris | : ) other wise it's a 15 quid entrance fee at the door |
| 21:32.05 | mikejw | oh ok |
| 21:32.41 | serris | https://www.linuxworldexpo.co.uk/page.cfm/Action=PreReg/PreRegID=1/t=m |
| 21:33.24 | mikejw | serris: cheers :D |
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| 21:46.03 | mikejw | sabinef72: lo :) |
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