| 00:02.57 | wethrin | Leeds++ # breaking news |
| 00:03.08 | Leeds | got it from #python |
| 00:03.39 | z00dax | heh |
| 00:03.40 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:03.44 | z00dax | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.06 | z00dax | http://gwright.org.uk/images/?dir=pictures/Cambridge/Room |
| 00:15.18 | wethrin | He showed me that too! |
| 00:15.30 | z00dax | i thought he might have |
| 00:15.33 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:15.34 | z00dax | so i just posted it here |
| 00:18.30 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:18.33 | z00dax | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 00:18.36 | z00dax | nite nite |
| 00:19.51 | Leeds | night |
| 00:21.20 | wethrin | nn |
| 04:14.12 | morsing | 'morning |
| 05:02.14 | Leeds | afternoon |
| 06:24.53 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 06:36.08 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 06:37.53 | Leeds | mozring% |
| 06:38.03 | morsing | What did you have for breakfast? |
| 06:42.22 | Leeds | uh, cereal and toast |
| 06:45.36 | morsing | Mmm... |
| 06:56.33 | morsing | Leeds: Are you having fun? |
| 06:57.17 | mozrat | hello! |
| 06:58.09 | Leeds | I decided to take a bit of a break from flat-hunting and write a flat-hunting webapp instead |
| 06:58.32 | mozrat | Leeds, shave those yaks! |
| 07:00.06 | mozrat | wow - the author of ReiserFS was arrested for murder? |
| 07:01.22 | Leeds | yes |
| 07:07.20 | morsing | mozrat! |
| 07:07.31 | morsing | Was he? |
| 07:07.37 | morsing | Who did he murder? |
| 07:07.50 | Leeds | allegedly, his estranged wife |
| 07:07.53 | mozrat | $WIFE |
| 07:13.43 | morsing | Hmm... |
| 07:17.38 | morsing | Weird, when you send an email to "String1 <email@address>" |
| 07:17.38 | mozrat | Today shall be known as "Documentation Wednesday" for that is all I shall be doing |
| 07:17.51 | morsing | string1 isn't actually seen at the other end? |
| 07:18.48 | morsing | Why? |
| 07:18.49 | Leeds | morsing: nonsense |
| 07:19.02 | morsing | Leeds: I just tested it... |
| 07:19.29 | Leeds | then you tested it wrong |
| 07:21.54 | morsing | Leeds: Or Outlook ignores it... |
| 07:22.03 | morsing | Or Pine does it wrong |
| 07:22.52 | Leeds | if you're using Outlook, you're testing it badly |
| 07:23.12 | Leeds | unless you're looking at the mail spool, you cannot possibly comment on what does or doesn't get sent or delivered |
| 07:23.47 | Leeds | plus, you know, if you're using Outlook - you lose. it doesn't matter what you're trying to do, you lose, by default |
| 07:25.28 | morsing | Well, just tested it locally on my machine with Pine. Still doesn't work |
| 07:26.41 | morsing | Weird |
| 07:26.58 | Leeds | you're still wrong |
| 07:28.16 | morsing | Tell me how... |
| 07:28.30 | morsing | And SA sucks btw |
| 07:30.07 | Leeds | you're wrong because the all the headers get sent and get delivered |
| 07:30.20 | Leeds | as I said - look at the mail spool |
| 07:33.11 | morsing | Did: |
| 07:33.34 | morsing | Oct 11 08:32:32 emil postfix/local[12104]: 294702CD: to=<morsing@morsing.cc>, or |
| 07:33.35 | morsing | ig_to=<henrik@morsing.cc>, relay=local, delay=8.7, delays=0.35/0.01/0/8.4, dsn=2 |
| 07:33.52 | Leeds | that's not a mail spool - that's a log, or metadata |
| 07:35.14 | morsing | Ok, so why won't Pine or Outlook display it? |
| 07:35.41 | Leeds | no idea - that's between you and your non-free mail client |
| 07:36.54 | Leeds | is it in the mail spool? |
| 07:37.08 | Leeds | or are you asking why the human-readable name isn't part of the sql transaction? |
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| 07:41.23 | Leeds | ugh, not sql - smtp |
| 07:41.31 | SlayerXP | ? |
| 07:46.53 | Leeds | morsing: ? |
| 07:48.28 | mozrat | Morning SlayerXP |
| 07:48.41 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 07:53.43 | morsing | Leeds: It's in the mail spool as To: |
| 07:53.49 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
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| 07:57.41 | morsing | mikejw! |
| 07:58.13 | mikejw | sup yo! |
| 07:58.24 | mikejw | :) |
| 08:07.32 | mikejw | I don't really talk like that :/ |
| 08:07.46 | Leeds | dude! |
| 08:07.51 | mikejw | lol |
| 08:08.06 | mozrat | yo G |
| 08:08.08 | mikejw | Leeds: howdy partner |
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| 08:08.17 | mozrat | fizzle my nizzle (or whatever the saying is) |
| 08:08.35 | mikejw | sha-yeah |
| 08:08.53 | sabinef72 | hello |
| 08:10.11 | mikejw | :) |
| 08:10.33 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 08:10.45 | sabinef72 | how are you ? |
| 08:11.11 | sabinef72 | heyyyyy |
| 08:11.24 | sabinef72 | why are you doing that ? |
| 08:11.43 | morsing | I used to pull my friends nose but she got tired of it :( |
| 08:12.19 | mikejw | at least it's not biting |
| 08:12.20 | sabinef72 | but why mine ? |
| 08:12.48 | morsing | sabinef72: I can't pull another man's nose, that would be weird |
| 08:13.09 | sabinef72 | oh so I'm your victim.... |
| 08:13.36 | serris | morning all |
| 08:13.45 | morsing | :) |
| 08:13.52 | morsing | serris! |
| 08:14.00 | serris | how's it going? |
| 08:14.13 | sabinef72 | mozrat: any news ? |
| 08:21.58 | mozrat | sabinef72: What are you doing tomorrow? Was that the day that was bad for you? |
| 08:22.31 | gregj | http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_4470810 |
| 08:23.59 | sabinef72 | mozrat: I'm in the car's mundial in Paris |
| 08:25.07 | mozrat | in the what. where? |
| 08:25.41 | sabinef72 | but not all day long |
| 08:26.40 | morsing | Anyone here with PIX experience? |
| 08:27.00 | mozrat | morsing: aye |
| 08:27.13 | morsing | mozrat: How do I show rules? |
| 08:27.26 | morsing | IT doesn't even have a show command |
| 08:27.39 | mozrat | are you in privileged mode? |
| 08:27.44 | morsing | enable |
| 08:27.50 | mozrat | yah |
| 08:27.52 | morsing | Do I need to be in configure? |
| 08:27.56 | mozrat | nope |
| 08:28.02 | mozrat | show static |
| 08:28.08 | morsing | Nice :) |
| 08:28.10 | mozrat | shows you the inside-outside translations |
| 08:28.23 | mozrat | and show access-lists shows you the port deny/allow rules |
| 08:28.41 | mozrat | morsing: do you not fancy using the PIX console? it is rather nice? |
| 08:28.52 | morsing | Do we have one? |
| 08:29.03 | morsing | show access-lists doesn't work |
| 08:29.06 | sabinef72 | I'll be there : http://www.copinedegeek.com/article.php3?id_article=98 |
| 08:29.07 | mozrat | if you enable the HTTP server you should have |
| 08:29.27 | mozrat | it makes you use network objects and gives you a cleaner config |
| 08:29.39 | sabinef72 | nan |
| 08:29.39 | sabinef72 | sorry |
| 08:29.39 | sabinef72 | I'll be there : http://www.mondial-automobile.com/ |
| 08:30.17 | morsing | mozrat: I think there will be firewall issues |
| 08:30.46 | mozrat | morsing: so "show access-list" didn't work? |
| 08:31.50 | sabinef72 | mozrat: this is car's mundial. You never hear about it ? |
| 08:32.11 | mozrat | Non |
| 08:32.32 | morsing | mozrat: Nope |
| 08:33.42 | sabinef72 | morsing: you like cars, don't you ? |
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| 08:34.08 | morsing | huw-l! |
| 08:36.16 | morsing | sabinef72: I hate them, money pits! |
| 08:36.19 | mozrat | morsing: sorry - away for a little bit. Export show config and mail it to me if you wish |
| 08:36.29 | morsing | sabinef72: I do but not new cars |
| 08:36.40 | morsing | Anything later then 1991 is crap |
| 08:37.13 | huw-l | morning |
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| 08:37.38 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 08:37.47 | sabinef72 | morsing: this mundial is only news cars |
| 08:38.23 | morsing | Sucks! |
| 09:17.06 | antiphase | LDAP is ghey |
| 09:19.47 | morsing | LDAP is gay |
| 09:21.21 | huw-l | LDAP rocks |
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| 09:25.30 | morsing | z00dax! |
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| 09:25.52 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 09:27.07 | sabinef72 | well that's better |
| 09:34.45 | mozrat | I actually like LDAP |
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| 09:45.09 | antiphase | Do you use it to store mail routing and open relay information though? |
| 09:45.31 | antiphase | Rather than, say, something which would be appropriate for a Directory Service |
| 09:48.01 | cpufreak | its ideal for that |
| 09:48.39 | cpufreak | as its very optimized for reads |
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| 09:49.37 | mozrat | antiphase: I use it to store mail routing info yeah |
| 09:50.11 | antiphase | The insanity must have spread :P |
| 10:00.21 | morsing | antiphase! |
| 10:00.38 | antimatter | Helll |
| 10:01.54 | SlayerXP | antibody: oi! hands off my product name |
| 10:02.28 | antibody | are you going to act like discordian and sue me for libel now? |
| 10:02.49 | mozratMX | <evil chuckle/> |
| 10:02.57 | morsing | CHecK It! |
| 10:11.45 | wethrin | hm |
| 10:12.51 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 10:13.17 | wethrin | hi |
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| 10:23.02 | morsing | wethrin: What are you doing? |
| 10:27.41 | wethrin | not much ATM |
| 10:30.11 | morsing | Beer? |
| 10:32.46 | wethrin | When? |
| 10:34.40 | morsing | 34 |
| 10:35.07 | wethrin | what? |
| 10:35.36 | morsing | Check it! |
| 10:40.02 | Leeds | miss me? |
| 10:41.35 | morsing | Yes |
| 10:44.57 | Leeds | aw, that's sweet |
| 10:52.01 | wethrin | :) |
| 10:53.49 | wethrin | ah. yay! |
| 10:54.40 | Erwin | Apparently my coffe maker was built for "the men and women of perfection" |
| 10:55.27 | morsing | So, me then? |
| 10:55.33 | morsing | I am perfection |
| 11:46.24 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 11:47.34 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 11:47.48 | Leeds | why should I ping wethrin? |
| 11:48.00 | morsing | Leeds: Agree with me |
| 11:49.52 | morsing | LEEDS! WETHRIN! |
| 11:51.34 | wethrin | yes? |
| 11:53.32 | morsing | wethrin: What are you doing now? |
| 11:54.34 | wethrin | I'm going to lunch |
| 11:54.36 | wethrin | Later! |
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| 12:03.26 | morsing | mikejw! |
| 12:05.49 | morsing | Ping Leeds |
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| 12:10.38 | morsing | keithlard_! |
| 12:18.18 | keithlard_ | hiya! |
| 12:21.48 | mozratMX | gello! |
| 12:23.13 | mozratMX | popey: which blogging engine do you use? |
| 12:23.22 | popey | drupal |
| 12:34.54 | morsing | Sconnes |
| 12:35.29 | mozratMX | popey: *nod* |
| 12:36.11 | mozratMX | you can normally tell by looking at the homepage,I couldn't work yours out |
| 12:37.14 | mozratMX | is there wireless internet access on Eurostar? |
| 12:42.13 | Leeds | mozratMX: not that I'm aware of - I think it's pretty new anywhere |
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| 12:47.50 | mozratMX | Leeds: apart from HK? :( |
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| 12:54.17 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 13:18.16 | Leeds | mozratMX: there's wifi on gner, and there's gprs in the tunnels in HK - very different thing |
| 13:18.16 | morsing | ibot change 290 usd to gbp |
| 13:18.17 | mozratMX | Leeds, true, Just found a sourceforge project (at release 0.0.0) that is working towards using a blackberry as a modem on Linux |
| 13:20.29 | morsing | Nice |
| 13:24.26 | mozratMX | version 0.0.0. should work right? |
| 13:24.47 | popey | why not work disconnected? |
| 13:24.58 | popey | that's how I have managed to write such long rambling blog entries recently |
| 13:25.04 | mozratMX | popey: could do |
| 13:25.05 | popey | i use my laptop on the train |
| 13:25.15 | mozratMX | could also waste 3 hours on IRC on the eurostar |
| 13:25.20 | popey | haha |
| 13:25.40 | Leeds | I wrote most of my last blog entry on the Treo while waiting to board a ferry... |
| 13:26.37 | popey | I try to get a seat on the train from waterloo that has a table |
| 13:26.43 | popey | there's not many of them |
| 13:26.56 | mozratMX | Getting a seat at all on my commute is a bonus |
| 13:27.05 | popey | got one yesterday, some woman came up and asked if anyone was sat next to me, dumped her stuff then went outside for a ciggie.. |
| 13:27.20 | popey | 5 people then asked me if anyone was sat there and shot me evils when I said there was |
| 13:27.24 | popey | LIKE IT WAS MY FAULT! |
| 13:27.28 | popey | fuckers |
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| 13:28.18 | mozratMX | and if you had given the seat up she would have been angry w/ you |
| 13:28.18 | cbz | da |
| 13:28.27 | mozratMX | Chris! |
| 13:28.43 | cbz | George! |
| 13:28.47 | cbz | er, mozrat! |
| 13:28.52 | Leeds | Rocky! |
| 13:29.09 | cbz | Bullwinkle! |
| 13:29.24 | Leeds | Dr. Scott! |
| 13:30.22 | mozratMX | Derek! |
| 13:31.42 | morsing | Mmm... Cadillac |
| 13:31.58 | Leeds | ibot change 5000 hkd to gbp |
| 13:32.09 | Leeds | now, where in London would you be able to rent a flat for that? |
| 13:32.23 | morsing | Tottenham |
| 13:32.39 | popey | per week? |
| 13:32.52 | Leeds | plus at least 10% for travel... no, monthly |
| 13:33.46 | Leeds | looking at a forum post by someone (25-year-old single male) asking about living on one of the islands here, expecting to pay that much, then commuting by ferry to work, which has to be at least a couple of quid a day |
| 13:35.26 | morsing | Meh |
| 13:40.15 | Leeds | hmm... future open-source Eudora, based on Thunderbird |
| 14:36.07 | eyore | thunderbird could do with a bit of an overhaul |
| 14:38.19 | eyore | so could venkmen, |
| 14:38.28 | eyore | or whatever the javascript debugger is called |
| 14:38.37 | eyore | it's so promising, but the UI is a bit horrific |
| 14:43.35 | cbz | is that good, or bad? |
| 14:46.16 | rhowe | 8 |
| 14:47.25 | eyore | It's a shame about Hans Reiser I thought the whole reiser thing looked quite promising |
| 14:47.37 | eyore | even if some people did lose all their files :) |
| 14:48.01 | eyore | I did find it a lot faster with many small files |
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| 14:51.51 | morsing | Erwin! |
| 14:53.10 | cbz | Real men have larger files |
| 14:54.50 | eyore | hehe |
| 15:10.38 | Erwin | ugh, what's the SMTP command to start mail body? |
| 15:10.47 | morsing | data |
| 15:11.02 | Erwin | Oh yeah. |
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| 15:23.57 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 15:24.07 | SlayerXP | yup |
| 15:37.35 | eyore | Erwin: do you send raw postscript to printers too? ;) |
| 15:41.26 | Erwin | well, no mail clients have a function that forces relay through a specific host easily, it's easier just to type it out |
| 15:43.25 | rhowe | hmm.. £342 ex. VAT vs.. £20 ex. VAT |
| 15:45.07 | hali | the outstanding support you get from insight is indeed worth £322 |
| 15:45.30 | rhowe | hali: Don't forget the value of it being Lexmark branded (for extra super quality!) |
| 15:45.47 | hali | that lexmark sticker along goes for around £100 on ebay |
| 15:45.51 | hali | alone* |
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| 17:46.17 | JAV | hi! |
| 17:50.46 | pdr | evening all |
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| 18:12.24 | morsing | moo |
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| 18:16.31 | andrew___ | Boing |
| 18:24.13 | z00dax | BoingBoing! |
| 18:24.22 | z00dax | my phone wont connect to the WiFi here at home |
| 18:24.26 | z00dax | this sux. |
| 18:37.54 | morsing | huh |
| 18:38.51 | z00dax | it works fine with 3 different public hotspots, but not with my AP at home. |
| 18:39.04 | morsing | nice |
| 18:39.10 | morsing | Netgear? |
| 18:39.24 | z00dax | Linksys |
| 18:39.34 | z00dax | its a WRK54G |
| 18:39.49 | z00dax | netgear networking stuff sux |
| 18:39.50 | morsing | hmm...LINKSYS IS NORmally quite good |
| 18:40.03 | morsing | yup - netgear sux |
| 18:40.18 | z00dax | morsing: this linksys AP has been working quite well for me so far. |
| 18:40.19 | morsing | I have a linksys WAP54G |
| 18:40.39 | z00dax | i think it has something to do with the way the Wifi radio is setup on the linksys box, that this phone does not like |
| 18:47.14 | trousers | Don't you mean the linksys box? |
| 18:47.26 | trousers | Oh, never mind, ignore me :) |
| 19:25.07 | z00dax | http://www.sipfoundry.org/sipX/ |
| 19:25.12 | z00dax | for anyone who wants to play |
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| 19:40.40 | sabinef72 | hello |
| 19:41.55 | sabinef72 | mozratMX: are you around ? |
| 19:46.19 | morsing | :( |
| 19:48.11 | sabinef72 | oh morsing ! |
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| 20:22.40 | keithlard_ | that midpssh is pretty good! |
| 20:23.30 | hali | midp as in a java midlet? |
| 20:23.45 | keithlard_ | i guess so! |
| 20:24.30 | keithlard_ | i would be even more impressed if i could get it to connect to my ssh server :-| |
| 20:42.35 | keithlard_ | even after frobbing my GPRS settings |
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| 21:41.30 | z00dax_mob | Hello |
| 21:45.49 | morsing | hi |
| 21:46.33 | z00dax_mob | Morsing: this thing finally worked |
| 21:47.23 | z00dax_mob | i had to use the wifi ap as a router and get that to do upnp. And everything just started working |
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| 22:26.31 | rhowe | and 1920x1440@85Hz >> 1280x1024@60Hz |
| 22:33.29 | z00dax_mob | screen real estate. Another thing you can never get enough of |
| 22:34.01 | rhowe | Yeah, although last time I used this resolution I blew the motherboard |
| 22:37.18 | z0d | rhowe: Don't you know that Lispers are not welcome here? <-: |
| 22:38.15 | rhowe | z0d: Scheme isn't lisp |
| 22:38.19 | z00dax_mob | How did you manage that |
| 22:38.28 | rhowe | z0d: It's... lisp-derived-kinda-not-lisp-quite |
| 22:39.04 | rhowe | z00dax_mob: Switching power supply which supplied the AGP socket went (dodgy old capacitors). I guess it wasn't used to supplying any decent amount of current |
| 22:39.44 | z0d | Well, I consider Scheme, Common Lisp etc. (and even Arc) as Lisp. |
| 22:40.03 | rhowe | (define fact (lambda (n) (if (= n 0) 1 (if (< n 0) 0 (* n (fact (- n 1))) ) ) ) ) |
| 22:40.04 | z0d | But it's merely terminology. |
| 22:40.11 | rhowe | How can you even consider that anything like lisp? :) |
| 22:47.30 | z00dax_mob | There is always that lingering question - why ? |
| 22:50.30 | z0d | Why what? |
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| 23:19.19 | wethrin | *hic* |